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(DIR) Post #AOCKDc8NAr7zhqu7vs by JoeLange@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T17:55:48Z
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I think a lot of people are looking at the Moore vs Harper case wrong.The SC is doing big things lately.Is this just a case of drawing the line of powers between state legislatures and the state courts?Or is there another possibility?The ending forever of Gerrymandering by state legislatures to protect themselves in future elections?I’m thinking #2 but that’s just me😁😁
(DIR) Post #AOCKN4MpZasrsOAwpE by pamby1@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T17:57:57Z
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@JoeLange I posted this earler:
(DIR) Post #AOCLRPNPVEDi9F4zFw by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T18:09:57Z
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@JoeLange Agree 100% a favorable ruling fortifies future elections. But I still believe the "crime of the century" will be revealed and President Trump back B424. Another words all the illegal votes throw out.The question is how? The first step is wins in both houses and key Governor races in the swing states.My position is VP Pence has set this up by editing the ascertainment script, that appears to allow for disqualifying fraudulent electors.
(DIR) Post #AOCLf2iuWWVDwcdaaG by pamby1@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T18:12:24Z
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@GCIslander @JoeLange Did you see this video I posted above? About dueling electors?
(DIR) Post #AOCLopKn9ssXJb1OlM by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T18:14:08Z
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@pamby1 @JoeLange Going to check that out now. Was dodging hurricane Ian the last week. Live on the gulf coast.Thanks.
(DIR) Post #AOCM2Ly78WG2IDrdOi by pamby1@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T18:16:30Z
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@GCIslander @JoeLange Oh my gosh! Are you ok? Your home?
(DIR) Post #AOCMKXXAsIwjNJw30q by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T18:19:52Z
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@pamby1 @JoeLange Yes, I live above where the storm came ashore. All is good, just a 3 day power outage, which compared to Fort Myers, Sanibel, etc... was nothing like those people have to go through.🙏
(DIR) Post #AOCMemF9tZEams9sfY by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T18:23:34Z
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@GCIslander @JoeLange He did, didn't he?He made sure that it all depends on is what the definition of "is" is. In a way.That's just hilarious, at least to me.
(DIR) Post #AOCMg3jiLJcHKW3tlQ by pamby1@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T18:23:48Z
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@GCIslander @JoeLange Praise God!🙌My sister lives in Tampa. She got her power & water back yesterday.
(DIR) Post #AOCMniEcAXyaxcAGjg by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T18:25:12Z
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@GCIslander @JoeLange He did, didn't he?He made sure that it all depends on what the definition of "is" is.That's just hilarious, at least to me.
(DIR) Post #AOCN6rpWiZnUDpZ0ZE by KodiakIsland@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T18:28:36Z
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@GCIslander @pamby1 @JoeLange My niece was stuck in Alaska and couldn’t get back to Tampa and i was very happy. Her 3 hr drive from Tampa airport to her home turned into a 6 hr drive. No electricity but her apartment was still standing.😄
(DIR) Post #AOCN8KK8GTkssoZilc by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T18:28:54Z
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@pamby1 @JoeLange @ jmc464I just watched that video now. This is why I made the comment that Governor races will be very crucial in the swing states.This is because each certificate needs annexed to it a signature from an authority of the state i.e. a Governor or SOS. Wins by Kari Lake, Doug Mastriano, Brian Kemp would be enough to get Biden below 270, and therefore a vote by Congress which would get President Trump back in office. Jan.20 2023?Just a spitball that is looking possible.
(DIR) Post #AOCNA7IBgb9b2vWEe8 by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T18:29:15Z
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@KodiakIsland @pamby1 @JoeLange Good to hear that.
(DIR) Post #AOCNEFcEgLIk1ErrRA by pamby1@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T18:29:57Z
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@GCIslander @JoeLange 🙏🙏🙏
(DIR) Post #AOCNGoclUZCRAvL1pw by pamby1@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T18:30:23Z
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@KodiakIsland Hallelujah!🙌
(DIR) Post #AOCNTp4H9a7IJePNcO by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T18:32:45Z
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@pamby1 @JoeLange Got mine back Saturday. Unlike when Irma barreled through, the weather was very good.....cool with no humidity.
(DIR) Post #AOCOqg3ouOkKzjenom by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T18:48:08Z
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@JoeLange @jmc464 @pamby1 I think it should be noted that a favorable ruling will have an effect on question one as well, i.e. 'plenary power' for the state legislatures, which as of know is only a right wing conspiracy theory.I've have not been able to figure out yet what the strategy team Trump had by trying to push the Biden electors back to the state legislatures when they KNEW it would never get past the courts as it stands as right now???
(DIR) Post #AOCP0lV3XYtelCCsXg by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T18:49:58Z
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@JoeLange @jmc464 @pamby1 I think it should be noted that a favorable ruling will have an effect on question one as well, i.e. 'plenary power' for the state legislatures, which as of know is only a right wing conspiracy theory.I've not been able to figure out yet what the strategy team Trump had by trying to push the Biden electors back to the state legislatures when they KNEW it would never get past the courts as it stands as right now???
(DIR) Post #AOCP41rj9L3YO0MpvM by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T18:50:33Z
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@JoeLange @jmc464 @pamby1 I think it should be noted that a favorable ruling will have an effect on question one as well, i.e. 'plenary power' for the state legislatures, which as of know is only a right wing conspiracy theory.I've not been able to figure out yet what the strategy team Trump had by trying to push the Biden electors back to the state legislatures when they KNEW it would never get past the courts as it stands right now???
(DIR) Post #AOCP7znelty98cM3jU by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T18:51:15Z
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@JoeLange @jmc464 @pamby1 I think it should be noted that a favorable ruling will have an effect on question one as well, i.e. 'plenary power' for the state legislatures, which as of know is only a right wing conspiracy theory.I've not been able to figure out yet what strategy team Trump had by trying to push the Biden electors back to the state legislatures when they KNEW it would never get past the courts as it stands right now???
(DIR) Post #AOCXqtzE21j9lxgpjE by JoeLange@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T20:29:01Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 I think it’s an interesting case
(DIR) Post #AOCZzTpAs3rr9ACsHg by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T20:52:58Z
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@pamby1 @JoeLange @jmc464 @johnglavine 1) Here is something to contemplate: If someone ever asks you how things are going? If we simply respond 'unbelievable' we cover it both ways, i.e. it could be good or it could be bad.I believe the editing of the ascertainment script on Jan 6th. produces the same principle..If what you are purporting/claiming to be true along with an authority who purports the same with a signature is true, then it's true, but if it isn't, well then it isn't.
(DIR) Post #AOCaAchGDx7LqiooNs by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T20:54:59Z
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@GCIslander @pamby1 @JoeLange @johnglavine Yes. Very good.
(DIR) Post #AOCaoJ8GNqPEkqN70S by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T21:02:09Z
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@GCIslander @pamby1 @JoeLange @johnglavine "Purport" can simply be a synonym of "claim", but it can also carry with it an implied possibility of speciousness.
(DIR) Post #AOCb0B2iHnHj8lR4XQ by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T21:04:19Z
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@pamby1 @JoeLange @jmc464 @johnglavine 2) You see it can go either way!If the establishment were in control, then why the harsh question from the Jan 6th committee to Marc Short about VP Pence's action? They appear satisfied, but not really because they want VP Pence to testify. I wonder what they will ask him? I think we know the answer.Also, why such panic from Fani Willis about the so called 'fake electors' in Georgia?When something could go either way, only the guilty react.
(DIR) Post #AOCbFy3cKiiFV4O7Mm by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T21:07:09Z
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@jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange @johnglavine Exactly! That's why the narrative from the establishment is that VP Pence shut down the 'fake Trump electors' (as they call them), but did he?
(DIR) Post #AOCddep1hWyEhWzGQy by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T21:33:51Z
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@GCIslander @pamby1 @JoeLange @johnglavine He accepted the electors presented to him based on his belief, which came from their assertions of authenticity, that they were what they appeared to be. But this was without any independent, verifiable confirmation. He was taking their word for it. But if an independent source were to provide verifiable refutation, well then, that changes things, doesn't it?
(DIR) Post #AOCeyOlAiO2kv8dceG by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T21:48:48Z
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@GCIslander @pamby1 @JoeLange @johnglavine He accepted the electors presented to him based on his belief, which came from their assertions of authenticity, that they were what they appeared to be. But this was without any independent, verifiable confirmation - he was taking their word for it - which he indicated by his use of "purport". But if an independent source were to provide verifiable refutation, well then, that changes things, doesn't it?
(DIR) Post #AOCjQw8Mckr0LyLjcW by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T22:38:47Z
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@jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange @johnglavine I believe so Jean-Michel, and so does the Jan 6th committee & the establishment.Why else would they be trying to push through-- S.4573 - Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022 that prohibits the VP of the Senate to do what they CLAIM he wasn't able to do in the first place?But again they step into a huge trap. Good!
(DIR) Post #AOCmWxgi3j4OlyylU0 by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-03T23:13:28Z
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@GCIslander @pamby1 @JoeLange @johnglavine Excellent work on this, GC. You've definitely got something here. We'll see how and when this emerges. Maybe soon.
(DIR) Post #AOE90DEy1VyGz6uTR2 by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-04T14:59:56Z
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@jmc464 @GCIslander @pamby1 @JoeLange Thank you all for your great thoughts which I’m mulling over.The one thing I can confidently say at this time is Trump NOT coming back b424 does NOT feel like a slam dunk emphatic triumph any which way we look at it.It actually feels sour to me.Maybe that should be factored into our thinking.
(DIR) Post #AOEASOM2OYhXW6DZBI by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-04T15:16:17Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange RE: President Trump's alternate electors A.KA. fake electors by the fake news.Does it make any sense to have alternate electors from 7 states if:A. President Trump truly lost?B. President Trump and his team (John Eastman) already knew that the ISL doctrine, or 'plenary power' was just a theory that wasn't going to work? So why are these alternate slates registered at the national archives?What are these slates missing?
(DIR) Post #AOEBa4R2RFZO0bmYk4 by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-04T15:28:53Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange From the first day I’ve (rightly or wrongly) viewed the alternate slates as “insurance”. That is: Slates that are necessary to give Trump electoral college votes should a challenge to the Jan 6 process succeed.“What are these slates missing?”Superb question.I think I’ve seen an image but can’t recall much. What I seem to recall seeing is a very plain looking document.Certificates of authenticity from an authority of the State?Excluded from the count?
(DIR) Post #AOECCW8hsnRAw7Xa9Q by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-04T15:35:51Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange I hear you. But like Jogi Berra said-"It ain't over till it's over."
(DIR) Post #AOECcC7gvSZ0NzJFaq by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-04T15:40:28Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Exactly! Certificates of authenticity from an authority of the State.That's why the Governor races are so crucial in the swing states.But that would be one option if Congress didn't end of voting.So it appears there are two ways at this point the President could return B424.
(DIR) Post #AOECop0gAfCQSz3Cs4 by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-04T15:42:43Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Agreed!Your great toots from yesterday have got me thinking again.Keeping it really brief because it’s 2.38 am here.We now mostly accept that Trump monitored the 2018 mid terms.He may be able to show that Congress was incapacitated by election fraud in the 2018 mid terms.If so then arguably everything that Congress has done since then is void ab initio or voidable (there’s a difference).Including the proceedings of Jan 6, 2021.Continued.
(DIR) Post #AOEDEuc9xKyPNU1THs by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-04T15:47:28Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange If I am correct, then the big red wave of November 2021 is of paramount importance.It could result in the first properly constituted Congress since the 2018 mid terms.So what can be done about all the things that the incapacitated Congress purported to do between the 2018 mid terms and November 2022?I suggest that the new MAGA Congress has the power to ratify (legal term) those actions of the incapacitated Congress that it wants to.Continued.
(DIR) Post #AOEDvM0aUoo8V8gd8a by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-04T15:55:07Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange “November 2022” - sorry.The MAGA Congress could pick and choose.Would the MAGA Congress ratify any of the SCOTUS appointments?Would the MAGA Congress ratify or purport to ratify the January 6, 2021 events? Whethe they could do it is a question for SCOTUS.In deciding I suggest SCOTUS would need to answer the very important question of whether the Constitution requires that there be a properly appointed and certified President at all times.Continued.
(DIR) Post #AOEETiWTILv8ApzAYK by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-04T16:01:20Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange If Scotus says “yes”, they must find a way to allow for the proper appointment of a certified President.What of the Presidential line of succession?https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession#:~:text=Current%20order%20of%20succession,-The%20current%20presidential&text=The%20order%20consists%20of%20congressional,requirements%20for%20serving%20as%20president.Continued.
(DIR) Post #AOEF77VCM7UQwLB9F2 by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-04T16:08:28Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Looking at the Presidential line of succession it strikes me that many of the “candidates” (i.e. the Secretaries and the AG) could “fall away” should the basis for their appointment be flawed.Could there be a Speaker and a President pro tempore standing in line?Perhaps the answer to these questions depends on the specific details re the extent of Congress’s incapacition.If Trump had all the evidence, he would know the answers and act accordingly.End
(DIR) Post #AOEFOkM79WfIMgKpKS by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-04T16:11:39Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Excellent! Going to contemplate this.Cheers!
(DIR) Post #AOEGJZoH2BUkADbYps by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-04T16:21:56Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Link to the legal definition of “ratify”.https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/ratify
(DIR) Post #AOEynRUstw3x3LaShM by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-05T00:40:22Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange 1) After thinking about this John, it's interesting that you have used the word "incapacitated" because this bring devolution/COG into the conversation.So the question is 'illegitimacy' based on fraud or another words an act of war which deemed the 117th Congress incapacitated. That's a concept well noted, and begs the answer to the question; is Biden the lawful or unlawful President?
(DIR) Post #AOF0NVgotIEuR1vqPw by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-05T00:58:04Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange 2) It appears that the vote counting on Jan 6th was a legal process but with one HUGE caveat, and that is "IF" what is purported is true.Well we know it isn't true, so when the truth be known, does that mean we have been without a President for the past two years? Something similar to the Catholic Church (Sede vacante) when there is a period of time between Popes, when the chair is empty.
(DIR) Post #AOF1QxCf9VJEad23ns by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-05T01:09:52Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange 3) Or is Biden just removed, and either his electoral votes drop below 270 and Congress votes?Or could states like Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania decertify, and with Republican wins (Governors) in these states, and annex a certificate appointing President Trump's electors lawfully?Then a Republican controlled House and Senate can begin the repeal process, with the rightful President at the helm?
(DIR) Post #AOF2QjS0NrIhtJfOSG by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-05T01:21:03Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange 4) Just like President Trump said at the AFPI in D.C. "you're gonna need help". We do our part, which is vote, and I believe he will do his part, and HELP a Republican controlled House and Senate.Maybe none of our idea's come to fruition, but never forget these words from the President..."Something is going to happen"End
(DIR) Post #AOFE3QXzhOwq3L7bqS by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-05T03:29:15Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Thanks GC for your thoughts and continued engagement as we go deeper into this rabbit burrow.Iron sharpens iron.Your thoughts assist me greatly.I will be replying in detail.Just a synopsis for now.Key passage I feel with my emphasis in capitals:“And you know what happened and you know what I did? A big favor. I caught the swamp. I caught them ALL. Let’s see what happens.”“ALL” = without exception.This in November 2019.Continued.
(DIR) Post #AOFECEIyaJMIgsIKEy by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-05T03:32:54Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Reference material:https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1192830555068542976?s=46&t=TRy9xZFN5V_wo_57e1yt1Qhttps://protectdemocracy.org/timeline/president-trump-speaks-to-reporters-before-departure/https://www.mediaite.com/trump/president-trump-boasts-i-caught-the-swamp-i-caught-them-all/If we accept the plain meaning of Trump’s words, then “ALL” would have to include those who were complicit in election fraud during the 2018 midterms.END (for now).
(DIR) Post #AOGaPyl0aihcWlurSq by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-05T19:16:36Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Agree with this John. "ALL" means exactly that, and thank you as well for your thoughts, that have made me look at things from a different perspective, especially VP Pence.If we accept the fact that our election system has been rigged, broken, predetermined, etc.. for God knows how long, and President Trumps primary mission was to get this fixed, then 100% when he said "I caught them ALL" he caught the 2018 midterm theft.
(DIR) Post #AOGbactaJRlDreZJ8y by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-05T19:29:43Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange It's kind of like if you knew a thief was going to rob your house in the middle of the night, you would stand watch and guard it, to prevent it from happening.Same with the establishment. The election system, which they control is what they were guarding, and needed President Trump out of the way. Hence all the attempts to remove him, but they failed, and added more crimes to their Modus operandi.Interested to see where you go with this.Cheers!
(DIR) Post #AOGvdi07mkEPePNHyS by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-05T23:14:24Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Thanks GC.I’m at work but want to drop a tidbit or two in between jobs.We won’t find in the Constitution, or in any Federal or State legislation, for that matter any express statement or provision to the effect of “fraud vitiates everything”.Yet we have that marvellous case which @JoeLange cited (from New York I think?) from the 1970s where the Court overturned an election because of fraud.How so? And can it be applied again?Continued.
(DIR) Post #AOGwAsYFa1ATvd9Zbs by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-05T23:20:22Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Look at it this way.Over the centuries the Courts have developed bodies of case law.To keep it simple, they have developed legal principles for statutory interpretation and construction (we can find these at law.cornell).These legal principles aren’t stated in every piece of legislation or in the Constitution for that matter.But will a Court apply these principles, including the “fraud vitiates everything” principle, in an appropriate case?YES!!End.
(DIR) Post #AOGz2WDr0xBADqJnwe by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-05T23:52:26Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange RE: "We won’t find in the Constitution, or in any Federal or State legislation, for that matter any express statement or provision to the effect of “fraud vitiates everything”.But we do in the Supreme Court, take the case of:The United States vs. Throckmorton 1878"fraud vitiates the most solemn contracts, documents, and even judgments"A certificate of ascertainment would be a document right?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Throckmorton
(DIR) Post #AOGzNUVsZ42D0CkYWe by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-05T23:56:18Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange So when President Trump comes out with this statement-“The Big Lie” that they constantly refer to is actually “The Big Lie” in reverse. They know that, and it will be proven in Court! - President TrumpI wonder what court he is referring to?
(DIR) Post #AOGzyv5Ck2nM7b7WgS by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-06T00:02:59Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange “But we do in the Supreme Court, take the case of:
The United States vs. Throckmorton 1878
"fraud vitiates the most solemn contracts, documents, and even judgments"”There’s some good reliable case law developed by Justices from the highest Court of the land that has stood the test of time.In legal parlance - I concur with you GC!Certificates of Ascertainment?Definitely a solemn document.
(DIR) Post #AOH0HgDaEVX1WMz8i0 by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-06T00:06:20Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Exactly!IMO, Trump's alternate slate of electors are not registered with the National archives just for the hell of it.That would be like building a sailboat in the middle of the desert just in case a lake, river or some huge body of water were to suddenly appear. Make no sense!
(DIR) Post #AOH8TYgMsMAvG2ckCm by Kat@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-06T01:38:15Z
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@GCIslander Pence was very specific in asking his question about the electors vote. He left it wide open and a clear path to prove they lied.
(DIR) Post #AOIEEnBpRtccn6dqNM by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-06T14:17:29Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange RE: Yet we have that marvelous case which @JoeLange cited (from New York I think?) from the 1970s where the Court overturned an election because of fraud.Not sure if the below case is what @JoeLange is referring to?Donohue v. Board of Election of the State of New York (1976)… if anything, militates in favor of interpreting the equity jurisdiction of the federal courts to include challenges to Presidential elections."https://ballotpedia.org/Can_a_redo_be_held_for_a_presidential_election%3F_(2020)
(DIR) Post #AOItxBgTpwrxcaGa92 by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-06T22:04:52Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange That’s the case Joe mentioned.Joe’s on fire elsewhere too.https://t.me/JoeLangeSpitballs/3794The case just needs to be framed properly, brought by the correct plaintiff(s) who has/have standing and it needs to be supported by evidence.Joe mentions “evidence” in both his posts.https://t.me/JoeLangeSpitballs/3795Believe it or not I’m starting to sound like one Brian Kemp.
(DIR) Post #AOIuUCI8bEgn3rcXtg by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-06T22:10:53Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Is Kemp’s letter for show and to cover his lower posterior? Or is it something bigger?https://freeatlantis.com/@johnglavine/108797774785108358Ok I won’t deviate any further.
(DIR) Post #AOJ2XjFrIaIBnTkXhI by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-06T23:41:08Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange I'll bet he is. Always like reading his thoughts. Just don't have a telegram account.Maybe he will post them here.
(DIR) Post #AOJ2fulcNdwnonVZ5c by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-06T23:42:39Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange IMO, Kemp reminds of the phrase-'strike when the iron is hot"The iron isn't hot yet.
(DIR) Post #AOJ3l9b8lZiHDZfZ3o by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-06T23:54:49Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange There has been an inordinate amount of aimless wild thrashing and flailing for no end result since the crime of the century.We can believe, if we want to, that our side is exceptionally incompetent and was caught with their pants down.Or simply a prelude to the main event.The crowds at every Trump rally?They tell us that the American people BELIEVE the cause is noble and very winnable.The mid terms are huge.Infighting that is breaking out proves this.
(DIR) Post #AOJ3usz5OI9waSVhbM by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-06T23:56:34Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange By that I mean that the infiltrators within the Patriot’s ranks now consider it’s time to stick their heads out of their foxholes and go for broke.
(DIR) Post #AOJ9cpRARJMY6APyxk by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T01:00:24Z
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@johnglavine @GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Where are you with Kemp's culpability/motivation behind continuing to allow Konnech to do business in GA?He's beating Abrams in the polls so it's not to keep HIM in place. This only hurts him in the legit vote.Is he just so compromised that he can't say 'no'?
(DIR) Post #AOJALpnHxYpKEiE2nA by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T01:08:41Z
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@shecky2000 @GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange A very good point which absolutely can point towards the RINO nature of Kemp.Yet I think that his RINO nature isn’t proven beyond reasonable doubt.Using Trump as an example, Trump has said many things but hasn’t produced the evidence necessary to take down the deep state YET. It could be argued that Trump is allowing evil to abound.In some ways a sting must allow a degree of evil to abound so the black hats can be caught in the act.Continued
(DIR) Post #AOJAcfh0lk8FpZJlx2 by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T01:11:43Z
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@shecky2000 @GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange So while the very short answer is “I don’t know for sure”, the more satisfying answer is we should know a lot more about Kemp by observing his life choices when Trump makes his move.The same could be said I feel for Pence, Comey, Wray and Esper to name a few of those who operate behind cloaks.End.
(DIR) Post #AOJAontQ6gsojouIhE by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T01:13:51Z
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@shecky2000 @GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Addendum:Oh! I intended to add Chris Krebs to that list.No too ways about Chris.Liar or truth teller.End.
(DIR) Post #AOJBMUsxHal5dJkvUu by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T01:19:59Z
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@johnglavine @GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange I feel like you are right. A guy like Kemp (or anyone with a role) only needs to do the "right thing" when it matters and can do the "wrong thing" while waiting. I really believe Kemp isn't a bad guy. But, something is pushing him to behave like an intermittent traitor. I am voting for him (was awesome for covid and Abrams is a Hindenburg). Since it seems his daughter's boyfriend was killed by a military weapon, I think he's being pushed.
(DIR) Post #AOJC3mdr8lSz9jKlay by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T01:27:49Z
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@johnglavine @GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Krebs is an interesting guy to bring up. He was a genius insert by either the bad or good guys. There's almost no in-between possible, right?
(DIR) Post #AOJC7YbpFusgnCBRuy by pamby1@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T01:28:28Z
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@johnglavine @shecky2000 @GCIslander @jmc464 @JoeLange I never considered Kris Krebs to be anything but a traitor! Based on your comment, "the most secure election" takes on a whole new meaning!😯 Maybe it was...
(DIR) Post #AOJDUVWH0azzpD5t0S by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T01:43:51Z
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@shecky2000 @GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange I think long and hard about this aspect and slap myself for being insensitive and even possibly purporting to read something into a family’s great misfortune and personal tragedy.However I should state this as gently and respectfully as possible.Kemp chose to publicly share two photos of his attendance at the 2020 White House Christmas party.He has a family of 5 and he omitted the other 3.He only included the daughter who had ….
(DIR) Post #AOJDk9F7bHdVMuWswS by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T01:46:42Z
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@shecky2000 @GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange … suffered great personal tragedy.Kemp was at pains to state that he and his daughter ENJOYED the White House Christmas party.She, to use Trump’s words, looks “very happy” in both photos.For someone who has suffered great personal tragedy less than a month ago.Time to go off and scrub my mouth and whole body with carbolic soap.
(DIR) Post #AOJE7WTlNJJo5vWXR2 by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T01:50:52Z
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@johnglavine @GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange I get it. Very hard to understand how someone can make traitor moves until you see the family part.MAYBE there is room for redemption for Mr. Kemp.
(DIR) Post #AOJEADonDCMv5VeBto by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T01:51:17Z
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@pamby1 @shecky2000 @GCIslander @jmc464 @JoeLange My personal subjective view is Chris Krebs is a truth teller.It was the most secure election in US history.We just haven’t been shown the EVIDENCE.
(DIR) Post #AOJEN3deN4QPHSYX2m by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T01:53:42Z
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@johnglavine @pamby1 @shecky2000 @GCIslander @JoeLange Secure, as in "locked down hard". Secure, as in "no escape".
(DIR) Post #AOJEOaVndNanWcc6Uq by Missustruth1776@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T01:53:57Z
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@GCIslander @johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange I heard from Bannon that the redo is not redoing the election in the state, it’s going by Constitution and having the 12th Amendment kick in bc no one got 270 bc of the fraud. and Voila House votes by State. More R states.But I don’t think this will happen either or maybe it will. Right now I’m just focused on midterms and yeah, I’m also voting Kemp. Whole Family is, too
(DIR) Post #AOJEwzhaU5PfUrX8VM by pamby1@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T02:00:03Z
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@johnglavine @shecky2000 @GCIslander @jmc464 @JoeLange Wow!
(DIR) Post #AOJF2ubEMtORPQNk36 by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T02:01:13Z
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@jmc464 @pamby1 @shecky2000 @GCIslander @JoeLange I have @justhuman to thank for uncovering a specific video on election security where Krebs featured with Wray and Nakasone and another gentleman.It’s the paraphernalia behind Krebs that caught the eye.Let’s see if I can find it again.
(DIR) Post #AOJGKdnteXZKU7K9YG by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T02:15:40Z
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@jmc464 @pamby1 @shecky2000 @GCIslander @JoeLange @justhuman https://freeatlantis.com/@johnglavine/107664710536553763z
(DIR) Post #AOJGkHzDONNALeqdwO by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T02:20:18Z
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@jmc464 @pamby1 @shecky2000 @GCIslander @JoeLange @justhuman And this:https://freeatlantis.com/@johnglavine/107664598845184862
(DIR) Post #AOJHz7PT67SpqMlMdE by pamby1@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T02:34:09Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @shecky2000 @GCIslander @JoeLange @justhuman Wow.
(DIR) Post #AOJLt6cfVjXjTvKFe4 by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T03:17:56Z
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@johnglavine @pamby1 @shecky2000 @GCIslander @JoeLange @justhuman "Defending Election 2020 from foreign adversary interference is our #1 priority and did not end last night. We will continue until all are counted and certified."What if one takes this in a completely, thoroughly, intensely literal way?
(DIR) Post #AOJM3SSFCAfa5VNzWq by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T03:19:49Z
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@johnglavine @pamby1 @shecky2000 @GCIslander @JoeLange @justhuman "Defending Election 2020 from foreign adversary interference is our #1 priority and did not end last night. We will continue until all are counted and certified."What if one takes this in an absolutely literal way?
(DIR) Post #AOKFAsQSWod88s6M40 by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T13:37:26Z
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@shecky2000 @johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange 1) That's a great question! IMO, if we accept the fact that Kemp is working with Trump, and President Trumps 'primary' goal as President was to fix the rigged election system in the US, then the fact Dominion voting machines were purchased by Georgia in 2019 AFTER the 2018 midterms makes me believe it's actually protection for Kemp, and proof for team Trump.
(DIR) Post #AOKG2zovFegGiILlU8 by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T13:47:12Z
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@shecky2000 @johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange 2) So, if we also accept President Trump "caught them ALL" as @johnglavine pointed out , then it's safe to conclude 'how' they stole the 2018 midterms is known by team Trump as well. In addition, if accept Gen. Nakasone's remark on Nov.3rd 2020 about how we LEARNED so much from 2018, then we could presume the purchase of Dominion machines after the 2018 midterms were to bust Georgia stealing the election for Biden their state.
(DIR) Post #AOKIJ8Rd9btw0FHM12 by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T14:12:31Z
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@shecky2000 @johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange 3) What does all this mean? IMO, it renders the Dominion machines useless in Georgia therefore giving Kemp protection in the midterms, or if the establishment has the temerity to manipulate the machines they get busted immediately.This is why the President is pushing paper ballots only! Without the machines the establishment is dead in the water.Another words a fraudulent ballot is useless without a manipulated tabulator.
(DIR) Post #AOKIS4CYId17RuU8Qa by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T14:14:10Z
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@shecky2000 @johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange 2) So, if we also accept President Trump "caught them ALL" as @johnglavine pointed out , then it's safe to conclude 'how' they stole the 2018 midterms is known by team Trump as well. In addition, if accept Gen. Nakasone's remark on Nov.3rd 2020 about how we LEARNED so much from 2018, then we could presume the purchase of Dominion machines after the 2018 midterms were to bust Georgia stealing the election for Biden in their state.
(DIR) Post #AOKIZv0KNVbbF1VkUC by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-07T14:15:35Z
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@shecky2000 @johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange 3) What does all this mean? IMO, it renders the Dominion machines useless in Georgia therefore giving Kemp protection in the midterms, or if the establishment has the temerity to manipulate the machines they get busted immediately.This is why the President is pushing paper ballots only! Without the machines the establishment is dead in the water.Another words a fraudulent ballot is useless without a manipulated tabulator.
(DIR) Post #AONouSvGQwDXYl7iXQ by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-09T07:01:58Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Pardon the time taken to organise my thoughts and continue.Electing and inaugurating a President in the USA is a complicated process.It is a process that involves many bodies, entities and persons.To keep it simple - the state legislatures (with their plenary powers), the state executive (governors and secretaries of state), the “transitions office” (forgot the full name) and Congress have a role to play and each plays its role in the correct sequence.
(DIR) Post #AONpchEYaOtkgdEqIK by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-09T07:09:57Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Being specific even the DOD has its own transition process to follow.Think of the processes as ducks being lined up properly in a row.Or sequential cogs in a wheel.What we can see is a lot of processes being (and maybe are still being or will be) challenged each step of the way.The reconstitution theory places much weight on the role of the “transitions office” and Trump signing the necessary authorisation for the transition to proceed.Continued.
(DIR) Post #AONq8Q2s1nJ6dztmfQ by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-09T07:15:41Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange GC you are correct to point to the existence of the alternate slates of electors.They represent a challenge to process required to elect and to inaugurate a President.An serious attempt to knock a cog out of the wheel.Remember December 18, 2020?The supposed night of the Swedish Meatballs? Which turned out to be the day of the 2020 White House Christmas Party?Continued.
(DIR) Post #AONqY5TT8IvaNDZzVo by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-09T07:20:20Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Well, the very next day (I think), it was reported that the DOD under Miller was hindering the transition process. Miller brushed it off as a mutually agreed pause.Writing an opinion piece for Fox, a prece which 17th SOG refer to, Kash Patel prefers to focus on the direction given to the “Transitions Office” to implement the transition.Continued.
(DIR) Post #AONqqFbYCuRT0M1LRA by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-09T07:23:36Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange I speculate that something we know little or nothing about was up.Could it be Space Force?Pence and Miller visited Space Force on the morning of December 18, 2020.Later Psaki admitted they hadn’t heard from Space Force.Was this possibly another attempt to knock a cog out of the “election and inauguration” wheel?Continued.
(DIR) Post #AONr8OeHJw4yGawuNU by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-09T07:26:53Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Then onto more familiar territory, January 6, 2021 and Mike Pence’s long and cryptic open letter and amended electoral college vote certification wording laden with the root word “purport”.Another attempt to knock a cog out of the “election and inauguration” wheel?Continued.
(DIR) Post #AONrVMZZCmQUULhFjc by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-09T07:31:02Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Then onto what I think could be the most forceful whack to the cogs in the Presidential and Inauguration process wheel.Federal Congress is an integral part of the wheel.The American people know that and they turned out in force on the day.Trump mentioned it in Nevada today.It was the biggest crowd Trump has ever spoken to - at DC on January 6, 2021.Continued.
(DIR) Post #AONrnEPyGN6YPRjEbg by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-09T07:34:16Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange What if what we think is true and the military has evidence that the 2018 midterm elections were tainted with fraud?If correct, they may know the extent of the fraud and Trump would know whether the extent was sufficient to incapacitate Congress.With this evidence information Trump could plan for 2020 accordingly.“If we are correct about fraud, Joe cannot be President”.That statement could include fraud in the 2018 midterms.End.
(DIR) Post #AOOMQc9kw2Fnx3q6nQ by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-09T13:17:32Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange So it all boils down to "if we are right about the fraud"Well we ARE right about the fraud, so the series of events to unfold is the question.Lets face it this goes all the way back to 2016, when President Trump said...‘I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally’https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/27/donald-trump-i-won-the-popular-vote-if-you-deduct-the-millions-of-people-who-voted-illegally/
(DIR) Post #AOONCeBUhL7U8pYXxI by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-09T13:26:13Z
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@GCIslander @johnglavine @pamby1 @JoeLange It has been asserted that the US govt has been in a CoG posture since the Bush I administration. Well, fine then. Perhaps it is then merely a matter of adjustment by executive authority. And it then becomes a sword that cuts the other way.
(DIR) Post #AOONsyXBQbbVPxsv44 by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-09T13:33:53Z
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@GCIslander @johnglavine @pamby1 @JoeLange It has been asserted that the US govt has been in a CoG posture since the Bush I administration. Well, fine then. Perhaps it is then merely a matter of adjustment by the executive authority. And it becomes a sword that cuts the other way.
(DIR) Post #AOOSYAbNrgekXDkRv6 by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-09T14:26:08Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange I think it is about evidence GC.Of which evidence of fraud is the most obvious given the shenanigans we saw and read about in November 2020.Think of this - we barely heard of let alone saw the shenanigans before then.If Trump has evidence of other things (remember that the USA was attacked and it was worse than Pearl Harbour) then all the more so.Evidence because eventually Trump may choose to avail himself of the Courts for legitimacy.
(DIR) Post #AOQ4uTzbIFwtJ2yPKa by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-10T09:10:39Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange A lot of interesting comms from Trump at today’s Arizona rally GC.I think you don’t have a Telegram account but they are conveniently set out here:https://t.me/TPVReports/10681And in sequence I think.
(DIR) Post #AOQC4Ofid6jLNaLezY by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-10T10:30:55Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Yes, do not have telegram.All that I can see...“If you want the decline and FALL of America, vote radical Democrat.” - POTUS TRUMP
(DIR) Post #AORzpF0nS9GLwS8Mbo by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-11T07:23:08Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Apologies for the poor quality photography GC. Do you see what I think I am seeing (or am I seeing too much)?Does a big red wave MAGA Congress have some interesting powers or does it not?
(DIR) Post #AOS0BQTjV6PTsNFO6q by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-11T07:27:08Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange From Wikipedia (which of course can be too simplistic).What if the red wave MAGA Congress had the numbers to amend or replace “the current Presidential Succession Act” and provide for a new line of succession beyond the Vice President?
(DIR) Post #AOS0Jea4x6WFvk8eo4 by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-11T07:28:37Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange In times like this I regret that my training did not extend to US Constitutional Law.
(DIR) Post #AOS6EMfWimD6ebY2qW by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-11T08:34:54Z
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@GCIslander @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Against this we have Chris Krebs continuing to tweet more of his kool aid…….https://twitter.com/c_c_krebs/status/1578498456942829568?s=46&t=84tQ084pJ1u9YsZuc6w2_A
(DIR) Post #AOSRBTzJ9PSlWRGecy by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-11T12:29:40Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Believe me, I want to be as optimistic as possible, but it just doesn't seem like a 2/3 majority will happen, and that would be required.
(DIR) Post #AOSSo1aMmde6gLXlFQ by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-11T12:47:51Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange 1)Not sure what to make of this guy? What did stand out in his thread was-- Innocuous thing happens, usual suspects say "told ya so", bad actors foreign/domestic claims democracy is being stolen.....IMO, there is absolutely no way that Phillips & Engelbrecht discovered the Konnech theft without team Trump being aware of it FIRST! TTV knew about this in Jan.2021, and reported it to the F.B.I.
(DIR) Post #AOSTSFtP0elQdbdBAm by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-11T12:55:07Z
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@GCIslander @johnglavine @pamby1 @JoeLange A sitting ⅔ majority isn't necessary. It only has to be available when it's needed. Meaning, can it be thrown together for something crucial, like this? Yeah, maybe it can be.
(DIR) Post #AOSTXvsAM8vYHhlA7E by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-11T12:56:09Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange 2) Makes me ask the question did team Trump have their own "pit" with TTV after the 2020 election? President Trump could not be the one to reveal anything, only keep the public focused on the steal by talking about it over and over and over. It would be the people who are responsible for solving the crime of the century, not him.That way when it's solved, he can take Krebs words, and make him eat them by saying.."told ya so"end
(DIR) Post #AOSTxqYYkD5xKFwhA8 by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-11T13:00:50Z
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@jmc464 @johnglavine @pamby1 @JoeLange Thanks for that. Was under the impression 2/3 were needed to amend the constitution.
(DIR) Post #AOSUGw7YHR0I5MPqRk by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-11T13:04:14Z
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@GCIslander @johnglavine @pamby1 @JoeLange Yes, it is. I'm saying that it's within the realm of possibility to get enough Dems to cross over for a particular vote.
(DIR) Post #AOSUVdJ4VsWE4toPNg by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-11T13:06:57Z
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@jmc464 @GCIslander @pamby1 @JoeLange Isn’t it amending the legislation only?The Constitutional power to legislate appears to exist.
(DIR) Post #AOSUupflfompfcRacK by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-11T13:11:27Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange That's a good question.
(DIR) Post #AOSVLKGkXU145oNJE8 by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-11T13:16:17Z
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@johnglavine @GCIslander @pamby1 @JoeLange Oh dear. I'm completely confused. I think I'm not getting something. Or we're talking about two different things.I'm simply saying that in order to achieve a ⅔ majority vote on some legislative matter that requires it, the Republican majority might be able to bring enough Dems over to get the required number of votes for passage.
(DIR) Post #AOSYuslAay2Z3sFYg4 by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-10-11T13:56:19Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @pamby1 @JoeLange Don't think you are reading to much into this John. Per clause 6, it appears that devolving to the VP wouldn't be necessary upon the revelation of a fraudulent election.So could Congress declare Trump the President even though he isn't an officer?Looks like a vote would do it if Biden's electoral count fell below 270.That word 'declare" is interesting because President Trump used it..."Declare me the winner or have a redo"