Post AOF02BCzqMsGphoMOO by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
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(DIR) Post #AOEvfLyDGb89jSkxfs by cel@skinnyver.se
2022-10-05T00:05:01.964727Z
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ok firefox is laggin gnow
(DIR) Post #AOEvgvAHtnQPB09TSi by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:03:48.391915Z
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@cel the secret powers of hellthreads: your browser dying
(DIR) Post #AOEvmOrEvgD6iNr3ya by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T00:06:33.330746Z
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@itzzenxx @cel Even Chromium falls to the hellthread. The king has fallen.
(DIR) Post #AOEvo0rj6Q1AsqqrcO by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:05:05.263695Z
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@inference @cel me, perfectly fine on MS Edge :trollface:
(DIR) Post #AOEvsqspdx9nN9fyzY by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T00:07:42.348792Z
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@itzzenxx @cel TFW proprietary more based than open source.FOSS cultists hate this one trick!
(DIR) Post #AOEvyNeVEkV2S2bsmG by straw@rdrama.cc
2022-10-05T00:08:45.241951Z
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@itzzenxx @inference @cel
(DIR) Post #AOEw0Qzpm61XOyZD9s by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:07:19.986393Z
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@inference @cel FOSS cultists HATE this screenshot!
(DIR) Post #AOEw2jN8QP2IyMYpBw by straw@rdrama.cc
2022-10-05T00:09:32.372136Z
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@itzzenxx @inference @cel I think I threw up a little
(DIR) Post #AOEw7I0Zag8tYLBIoa by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T00:10:17.885322Z
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@itzzenxx @cel Based as fuck with Enhanced security mode.Makes me want to use Edge.
(DIR) Post #AOEw7kLSEdTzRDANFY by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:08:39.225671Z
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@straw @inference @cel I may switch back to linux when I get my triple monitor setup in action, but it’s Windows 11 for now since I just need stuff to work
(DIR) Post #AOEwA5IzHCfL1Y7x2G by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:09:04.613802Z
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@inference @cel maybe something like this in Highway?
(DIR) Post #AOEwBwbkaH0Od2n3kO by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:09:24.781429Z
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@inference @cel … or by default :)
(DIR) Post #AOEwIv3KlRkxph1Bia by fcktheworld587@social.linux.pizza
2022-10-05T00:12:25Z
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@itzzenxx @inference @cel constantly edging yourself on the web
(DIR) Post #AOEwJaQov1uAAPK1WC by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T00:12:28.197831Z
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@itzzenxx @cel JIT disabled by default with a whitelist (akin to GrapheneOS Vanadium and iOS Lockdown mode) is planned.
(DIR) Post #AOEwJjmQA5WzA0Utw8 by Coyote@shitposter.club
2022-10-05T00:12:34.212713Z
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what window manager is this wasting all that space on menus and title bars, and why would anyone turn on all that shit?
(DIR) Post #AOEwLTzFqny6l5Kfw0 by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:11:08.186438Z
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@inference @cel W
(DIR) Post #AOEwVWsjwTvudI4lm4 by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:12:57.123554Z
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@Coyote > why would anyone turn on all that shit?Cuz it just works lol. I used to use sway, but I switched to gnome because it just works. I can’t be assed to do much configuring myself at the moment lol
(DIR) Post #AOEwbSGrzwIe4PBiq0 by straw@rdrama.cc
2022-10-05T00:15:48.972317Z
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@itzzenxx @inference @cel :marseygunshotsuicide:
(DIR) Post #AOEwdYCQvXzj2I70yG by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:14:24.116648Z
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@straw @inference @cel marsey noooo :{{
(DIR) Post #AOEwmMKSQmpwpI48HY by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T00:17:43.389567Z
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@itzzenxx @straw @cel Marsey was a FOSS cultist, anyway. I say we celebrate.
(DIR) Post #AOEwoiwnJ8FlYT7oJ6 by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:16:25.289117Z
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@inference @straw @cel marsey is no foss cultist, marsey is the rdrama cat :marseycolond:
(DIR) Post #AOEwtOxt1rRL1prmGu by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T00:18:59.696903Z
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@itzzenxx @straw @cel Is rdrama based and open minded?
(DIR) Post #AOEwzA8B5unMl8QXNQ by straw@rdrama.cc
2022-10-05T00:20:05.950441Z
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@itzzenxx @inference @cel rdrama is open source https://github.com/Aevann1/rDrama
(DIR) Post #AOEx0QOW72D9UOfgfo by straw@rdrama.cc
2022-10-05T00:20:19.770989Z
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@itzzenxx @cel @inference submitting to corporations isn't being "open minded"
(DIR) Post #AOEx2WLUxN2YWgG716 by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:20:36.902978Z
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@itzzenxx @inference @cel
(DIR) Post #AOEx5S9kzNn0OyAIz2 by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:19:26.658225Z
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@Jessica @inference @cel >brave
(DIR) Post #AOExDnMk16MsUxDTV2 by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:22:41.340459Z
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@itzzenxx @inference @cel it's a good browser :blobcatgoogly: I turned off the crypto shit and it's the fastest browser I could find that has a sync that works without an account
(DIR) Post #AOExFZqJGZNd8VtdrM by cel@skinnyver.se
2022-10-05T00:22:48.360050Z
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@Jessica @itzzenxx @inference pink is superior
(DIR) Post #AOExGpithznUg71p8S by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T00:23:12.707533Z
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@Jessica @itzzenxx @cel Brave has great site isolation, even better than Chromium proper's. May add it to the Highway fork I'm leading.
(DIR) Post #AOExGzYHALF7A48Ty4 by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:23:16.218919Z
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@cel @itzzenxx @inference firefox though :mokouVomit:
(DIR) Post #AOExIsEpKSCl3cw6Oe by raptor@ryona.agency
2022-10-05T00:23:28.640031Z
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@Jessica @itzzenxx @inference @cel do winfags really?
(DIR) Post #AOExKcgY7oYHOsjlbM by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:23:54.350753Z
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@inference @itzzenxx @cel would be a good idea. if only someone could make brave but without cryptoshit
(DIR) Post #AOExL5sba4QVwfbIv2 by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:22:16.234912Z
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@inference @Jessica @cel Going to install Fortress on my Thinkpad L14 tomorrow btw, I need to get back into Gentoo
(DIR) Post #AOExLetBPugYWb8lBA by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T00:24:07.822344Z
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@Jessica @itzzenxx @cel *Failfox.Imagine thinking having 4 year old sandbox leaks and cross-site leaks is secure or private. LOL.
(DIR) Post #AOExM3qCe89juawEVM by cel@skinnyver.se
2022-10-05T00:24:02.319095Z
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@Jessica @itzzenxx @inference it's librewolf not firefox
(DIR) Post #AOExM4iROTXccoJY2q by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:22:26.460982Z
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@cel @Jessica @inference both equally suck tbh
(DIR) Post #AOExNEzyeELko34ZNI by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T00:24:24.797655Z
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@cel @Jessica @itzzenxx Same codebase, same issues.
(DIR) Post #AOExP6nw5JdvyIKai8 by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:24:45.003147Z
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@cel @itzzenxx @inference you can call it whatever you want, doesn't change that it's a bad browser
(DIR) Post #AOExRy6UtEf1r7NPiS by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:23:30.788157Z
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@inference @Jessica @cel in fact, probably worse. Rage forks have a tendency to suck even more
(DIR) Post #AOExSeHc4IVYfktssC by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T00:25:22.205322Z
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@itzzenxx @Jessica @cel Almost ready to bootstrap the first pre-alpha Fortress build. Highway 0.0.0.7 may be the included Highway version. Most will still be Gentoo-like, but that will change over time.
(DIR) Post #AOExVR0vrIxUO7QVOK by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:24:08.381164Z
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@MischievousTomato @Jessica @inference @cel Not familiar to me
(DIR) Post #AOExauLCFXb0n8VyXg by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:25:07.390191Z
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@inference @Jessica @cel Neat! I’ll inspect the install script then start the install tomorrow I’ll have to find my old kernel config tho lol
(DIR) Post #AOExbVMCclNxayGnkO by kroner@seal.cafe
2022-10-05T00:27:01.262707Z
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My reaction to that information
(DIR) Post #AOExbj9bKPckNwTw36 by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:26:59.230164Z
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@bot @itzzenxx @inference @cel no it's terrible
(DIR) Post #AOExcAwS0tk4ZGXpRI by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:25:21.498991Z
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@MischievousTomato @Jessica @inference @cel L M A O
(DIR) Post #AOExdcpToVdtLhyX4K by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T00:27:19.827617Z
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@bot @Jessica @itzzenxx @cel Proceeds to dump 10 security and privacy issues Mozilla have ignored for 4 years while pretending that their browser is secure and private.
(DIR) Post #AOExfmN5J8Y7WRikPg by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:26:00.487698Z
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@inference @Jessica @bot @cel >firefox disables CPU vulnerability mitigationsyou’ve lost the argument
(DIR) Post #AOExgg4EEQjyGBKTnU by cel@skinnyver.se
2022-10-05T00:27:40.699327Z
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@itzzenxx @Jessica @inference
(DIR) Post #AOExhUEvgv0drqijQ0 by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:28:02.758341Z
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@bot @cel @inference @itzzenxx Firefox users be like "at least it's privacy respecting doe"
(DIR) Post #AOExib2vs1PZGcdcnY by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T00:28:15.803247Z
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@itzzenxx @Jessica @bot @cel Especially when the mitigations aren't even working when they *are* enabled.
(DIR) Post #AOExjJbsBTVLTjK9Mu by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:26:38.939701Z
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@cel @Jessica @inference will do tomorrow, it’s dark out
(DIR) Post #AOExlMKZ2U7WUpCcWO by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:28:44.606868Z
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@itzzenxx @inference @bot @cel I manually disable cpu vuln mitigations because it gives me free performance :meowDevil:
(DIR) Post #AOExlT4VyYRRP4kOye by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T00:28:46.703335Z
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@Jessica @itzzenxx @bot @cel Privacy respecting when cross-site leaks occur and its still vulnerable to Spectre even 4.5 years later XDDD
(DIR) Post #AOExleSJeP14i4y46S by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:27:04.234273Z
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@MischievousTomato @Jessica @inference @cel sneedacity :sadAkko:
(DIR) Post #AOExosQSAQMYuDdOy0 by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:27:39.283580Z
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@Jessica @inference @bot @cel https://make-linux-fast-again.com/ <- this website sucks don’t put this shit in your grub flags
(DIR) Post #AOExpm4lGGHlV9urvk by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:29:34.119554Z
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@bot @cel @inference @itzzenxx no joke my laptop gets 1 hour of batter under firefox and 3 with chrome. I'm not fucking kidding.
(DIR) Post #AOExqwDR2y0NEuWoRk by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:28:01.547628Z
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@Jessica @inference @bot @cel hmm, it’s almost like Google knows wtf they’re doing XD
(DIR) Post #AOExsjioTC3h4N3wGW by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T00:30:01.657626Z
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@itzzenxx @Jessica @bot @cel FOSS cultists be like:
(DIR) Post #AOExu3uKu9zzxr5Ibw by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:30:11.933669Z
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@itzzenxx @inference @bot @cel I say chrome but it's brave
(DIR) Post #AOExubCv65TLF326eu by lamp@mastodong.lol
2022-10-05T00:30:17Z
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@Jessica @itzzenxx @inference @cel last (only) time i tried it it was starting out as a shitty electron app lol
(DIR) Post #AOExv5IdDPrmZRw5j6 by cel@skinnyver.se
2022-10-05T00:30:13.421504Z
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@itzzenxx @Jessica @inference @bot it's almost like google has a monopoly over the internet
(DIR) Post #AOExwEvOuk46iFcYVs by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:28:59.040174Z
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@cel @Jessica @inference @bot They do, and I’m not denying that. But the competition sucks
(DIR) Post #AOExwUcUYoRlOEtgGG by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:30:46.218804Z
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@cel @itzzenxx @inference @bot it's almost as if firefox isn't a good browser
(DIR) Post #AOExwllGpQZOYO8Qnw by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T00:30:48.603819Z
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@Jessica @itzzenxx @bot @cel 99% same codebase.
(DIR) Post #AOExxtfKvTPrMFtgH2 by lamp@mastodong.lol
2022-10-05T00:30:49Z
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@itzzenxx @Jessica @inference @cel just download some grass
(DIR) Post #AOEy0IO7ynBSc1zXdY by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:29:42.933124Z
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@lamp @Jessica @inference @cel emerge -vqa1 earth-libs/grass
(DIR) Post #AOEy0NiWAPSt8iZOc4 by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:31:20.674657Z
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@inference @itzzenxx @bot @cel same codebase but it's faster and lighter
(DIR) Post #AOEy3ObDLLjckDahgu by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:30:16.660142Z
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@inference @Jessica @bot @cel fun fact, most of this shit isn’t even neededmitigations=offall you needed to achieve the same thing instead of putting all of the other junk in it
(DIR) Post #AOEy7YnXMmtJX9LBia by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:32:45.826320Z
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@lamp @itzzenxx @inference @cel how bout you download some bitches
(DIR) Post #AOEyH2D1O13rMAmKR6 by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:32:43.674372Z
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@Jessica @inference @bot @cel I honestly never felt a difference with brave and other browsers, I usually enable ublock origin to block as much as possible while still working though
(DIR) Post #AOEyI3MQad1FDafELQ by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:34:39.744989Z
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@itzzenxx @inference @bot @cel kernel condom off, time to get some wiruses :meowdevil:
(DIR) Post #AOEyMmGtYRglfHKRto by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:33:46.808142Z
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@Jessica @bot @cel @inference I swear I remember the days when Firefox Quantum was released, and it was actually faster than Chrome. God, I miss those days when moz://a actually gave two shits
(DIR) Post #AOEyNMz73WRvWqIGoq by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:35:38.077082Z
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@itzzenxx @inference @bot @cel I notice with my laptop, it gives me more batteryand brave's shields aren't an extension but part of the browser so it can be more efficient
(DIR) Post #AOEyYOJGTBOap7yVYO by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:37:36.540876Z
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@confusomu @cel @itzzenxx huge dealbreaker, sync is almost useless. extension settings aren't synced. brave is the actual best because it syncs all browser settings, and no account needed.
(DIR) Post #AOEyZa28Mnf7TQWs7s by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:36:05.634403Z
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@Jessica @cel @confusomu xbrowsersync tho
(DIR) Post #AOEyiU9falg9qeIgVc by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:39:26.406214Z
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@itzzenxx @cel @confusomu brave sync is top notch, it takes seconds for settings to come across
(DIR) Post #AOEyy3YAHBety4BNAG by lamp@mastodong.lol
2022-10-05T00:42:13Z
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@straw @itzzenxx @inference @cel kitty
(DIR) Post #AOEz1Wx5PuLK1cUoMK by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:41:08.449181Z
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@lamp @straw @inference @cel me I am catgirl
(DIR) Post #AOEzG5eBDalZgTaxl2 by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:45:30.815450Z
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@confusomu @itzzenxx @cel it's the best browser, I haven't found anything better in terms of power usage and securitythe ad injection is only enabled when you turn it on yourselfas for the ceo being homophobic, I don't know much about that
(DIR) Post #AOEzV1qFeGdSE4Mg8O by lamp@mastodong.lol
2022-10-05T00:48:05Z
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@itzzenxx @Jessica @inference @bot @cel fof how much faster does disabling mitigations make it?
(DIR) Post #AOEzZ8BzyixB54UdIO by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:47:13.063812Z
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@lamp @Jessica @inference @bot @cel A lot, the downside with these mitigations is that it slows the CPU a fuck down. But I’d prefer 30% of my performance for the risk of getting hacked removed
(DIR) Post #AOEzd0bq7AEAiiQetU by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:49:40.697954Z
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@itzzenxx @lamp @inference @bot @cel I hear that removing mitigations can improve performance by 10-40%
(DIR) Post #AOEzmQHU2MwmwhOeFE by lamp@mastodong.lol
2022-10-05T00:51:20Z
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@itzzenxx @Jessica @inference @bot @cel hmm maybe not such a terrible idea to disable on systems that either run only trusted code or doesnt need to be trusted
(DIR) Post #AOEzp9U4waRHihaaq8 by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:51:50.695484Z
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@lamp @itzzenxx @inference @bot @cel my gaming pc has no mitigations :meowdevil:
(DIR) Post #AOEzxwpXMOQv54ovS4 by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:51:42.041099Z
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@Jessica @lamp @inference @bot @cel daring but makes sense. An ex friend of mine, while making a GrapheneOS build server, disabled those mitigations as it slows shit the fuck down.Although, I feel that anything that connects to the internet often and runs a lot of software needs to have these mitigations enabled.
(DIR) Post #AOF01ovWgdpNj9T66i by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-05T00:54:07.613169Z
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@itzzenxx @lamp @inference @bot @cel I run a lot of pirated softwareI am a deviant.
(DIR) Post #AOF02BCzqMsGphoMOO by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:52:28.016042Z
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@Jessica @lamp @inference @bot @cel based
(DIR) Post #AOF0d2K5qJG3zPhnBw by lamp@mastodong.lol
2022-10-05T01:00:49Z
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@itzzenxx @Jessica @inference @bot @cel these mitigations... i never thought about it, but it must be a significant part of why old computers seem weaker with newer operating systems.
(DIR) Post #AOF0e7h7MEUAwDzcsi by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T00:59:18.947202Z
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@lamp @Jessica @inference @bot @cel maybe
(DIR) Post #AOF0x2DDxqY9RC1odk by lamp@mastodong.lol
2022-10-05T01:04:28Z
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@itzzenxx @Jessica @inference @bot @cel what's the risk of disabling them? software running on the system could escape its boundaries and meddle with other programs?so for anything that you'd trust to run as root, it does not matter?
(DIR) Post #AOF1MIjzeHFfwJP68G by straw@rdrama.cc
2022-10-05T01:09:05.868661Z
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@MischievousTomato @lamp @itzzenxx @inference @cel johnny she's 16
(DIR) Post #AOF1kSEE1dvSJa3sae by hayley@social.xenofem.me
2022-10-05T01:13:27.457805Z
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@lamp @itzzenxx @Jessica @inference @bot @cel "It's insecure but it's fast"
(DIR) Post #AOF1nB8O2OfkAPd6S8 by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T01:12:09.491014Z
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@MischievousTomato @lamp @inference @straw @cel :catblush: hahaha
(DIR) Post #AOF1rVvafZGtociBM0 by lamp@mastodong.lol
2022-10-05T01:14:41Z
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@straw @MischievousTomato @itzzenxx @inference @cel that's a lotta years for a cat
(DIR) Post #AOF44aTnG1zfba4UU4 by Coyote@shitposter.club
2022-10-05T01:39:30.860997Z
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@SoyMagnus @itzzenxx cowsay
(DIR) Post #AOF4pvF3sh8RbokfVA by Coyote@shitposter.club
2022-10-05T01:48:03.693793Z
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@itzzenxx > I can’t be assed to do much configuring myself at the moment lolI've been running bone stock dwm since switching video cards about a week ago, I ain't configured shit... I had an resolution issue with dual displays (that I'm convinced is xinerama's FreeBSD implementation), because it sucked just as bad in i3 and mate. Monitor was flaky anyway, so back down to 1 screen, and stock dwm, productive back up, anxiety slightly lower (who'm I kidding, anxiety... I live in anxiety, managed, well managed, but my brain isn't wired to relax... I think I need to smoke... brb)...
(DIR) Post #AOF4yOZQiqNEt1Jqdc by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T01:49:32.764581Z
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@lamp @itzzenxx @Jessica @bot @cel If you're allowing programs to run as root without a very specific reason, you have bigger issues than a side-channel attack...
(DIR) Post #AOF52eaz5ETtkI4oiG by Coyote@shitposter.club
2022-10-05T01:50:21.832185Z
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@itzzenxx speaking of which… reminds me.. maybe I have a config for this? locate config.h | grep dwmShit… nope, Ugh, it’s so easy to tweak, I’m going to spend more time thinking about it than doing it, huh?
(DIR) Post #AOF8qnba9xNy1vxWpE by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T02:31:15.262007Z
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@Coyote @SoyMagnus I used to use dwm, I kinda miss those days. Dwm forces X11 though
(DIR) Post #AOF8vUQesqYS0K5PhQ by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T02:33:50.134817Z
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@itzzenxx @SoyMagnus @Coyote dwl
(DIR) Post #AOF91qrYO8AzJphSK0 by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T02:33:15.146124Z
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@inference @SoyMagnus @Coyote has it finally gotten better? Maybe I’ll try it with the fortress install tomorrow
(DIR) Post #AOF96LAHfSLESQbL72 by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T02:35:47.625747Z
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@itzzenxx @SoyMagnus @Coyote All I know is dwl is dwm for Wayland. I haven't tried it, but it can't be worse than dwm since it doesn't use X.
(DIR) Post #AOFAHbGiEcGDXeXbii by Coyote@shitposter.club
2022-10-05T02:49:05.666592Z
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@inference @SoyMagnus @itzzenxx ok, now I feel stupid.. Why do I need wayland? I've heard of it, not gave a fuck.. what's the advantage?
(DIR) Post #AOFAlZSfWBoccmQOJM by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T02:54:25.463216Z
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@Coyote @SoyMagnus @itzzenxx Wayland prevents keylogging from any program other than the focused window, has high security across the board, and requires that programs are granted explicit permission to access mouse and keyboard etc.X grants every running program permission to view window contents of every other running program, keylog every key you press in every other window (including sudo/doas root password when your web browser is open; you see where this is going?), and even move and control every other window.If you care about your security and/or privacy at all, do not use X. X is okay for gaming systems which may not fully support Wayland and don't require high security, but never, ever, use X on a secure and private system.
(DIR) Post #AOFB04e6N88BOZgiRc by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T02:57:05.932737Z
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@dovelrei @SoyMagnus @itzzenxx @Coyote Welcome aboard the based and red-pilled ship.
(DIR) Post #AOFDEJTqDLf5Mlo2u8 by Coyote@shitposter.club
2022-10-05T03:22:06.793955Z
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@inference @dovelrei @SoyMagnus @itzzenxx But... But... if I can't X, then I can't watch stupid bullshit like this...https://youtu.be/0CXZECJtQw4And, OpenBSD don't do Wayland yet, and that's my next install on workstation... :-( wait...i was going to xen the next workstation (I need to build a real replacement for this fucking monster)... Way to go ADHD/ADD... non-sequiter: https://noagendasocial.com/@mrman/109112571593277906
(DIR) Post #AOFDWm12rHxz528iUC by Coyote@shitposter.club
2022-10-05T03:25:26.145601Z
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@inference @SoyMagnus @dovelrei @itzzenxx reddit reference, dunno what the official stance and status is right now... https://www.reddit.com/r/openbsd/comments/r3h8vw/wayland_in_future/
(DIR) Post #AOFDXhEU7zaMXDrkqe by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T03:25:33.342584Z
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@Coyote @dovelrei @SoyMagnus @itzzenxx Unfortunately, OpenBSD isn't as secure as people make it seem. Having "only 2 remote holes in the default install in a heck of a long time" means nothing in security terms. It lacks CFI, it lacks Wayland support, it lacks a lot of modern security systems and features.OpenBSD is secure with the code it *does* have; the issue is the code is doesn't have, which is, frankly, most of it...The BSDs suck at security. If you must use a BSD, use HardenedBSD.Linux is the best Unix for security, as it implements Wayland support, a vast array of security kernel options, and is now even implementing CFI (been available for ARM64 for years, now coming to x86-64). It also has proper MAC solutions such as SELinux.
(DIR) Post #AOFDbRKXC8H6NATrUG by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T03:24:30.212231Z
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@inference @dovelrei @SoyMagnus @Coyote bruh PlayStation 5 more secure than OpenBSD (It has clang controlled fine grain CFI)
(DIR) Post #AOFDjYdjtvVjMOKnku by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T03:27:42.488381Z
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@itzzenxx @dovelrei @SoyMagnus @Coyote Yeah, from what I understand, PS4 and PS5 use Clang to compile their kernels and OS etc, so it's likely that PS5 does use CFI.
(DIR) Post #AOFDmvTLT2Nf2g4x4S by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T03:26:34.752726Z
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@inference @dovelrei @SoyMagnus @Coyote Kinda gives me hope about hardening my gaming setup, the PS5 rocks even with CFI which supposedly make things slower
(DIR) Post #AOFDortjjAnEXHLiro by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T03:28:41.801470Z
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@itzzenxx @Coyote @SoyMagnus @dovelrei Of course, this is taking a proprietary Sony kernel and OS, based on FreeBSD, so they could implement CFI themselves.
(DIR) Post #AOFE3QVVqcxlvdxcye by Coyote@shitposter.club
2022-10-05T03:29:18.505205Z
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@inference @dovelrei @SoyMagnus @itzzenxx Security is as much of an illusion as privacy, they are one in the same, they do not exist in absolutes, only "levels of inconvenience in the way." Obscurity still matters sometimes. But might look into that, I really do think I might go with a hypervisor on bar metal though, and just mess with everything.. I wanna swich OSs the way I switch workspaces... Unfortunately, I still kinda need to... All the shit I used isn't all on one OS.
(DIR) Post #AOFE3T9e0OFk8gkho8 by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T03:30:41.146790Z
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@Coyote @dovelrei @SoyMagnus @itzzenxx Of course there is no such thing as 100% privacy. My point is X is a huge liability to your security and privacy because of how it allows EVERY program to spy on and keylog and even control EVERY other program. That's more than just a little hole...
(DIR) Post #AOFE3VwzbsuooJr90K by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T03:31:16.928446Z
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@Coyote @SoyMagnus @dovelrei @itzzenxx 100% privacy and security doesn't exist, but that doesn't mean you should just let it happen.
(DIR) Post #AOFE5GowpiFKSvvl68 by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T03:29:21.627702Z
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@Coyote @SoyMagnus @dovelrei @itzzenxx FreeBSD doesn't have CFI, so it must be a Sony thing if it does. TFW a gaming console is more secure than a "secure" OS...
(DIR) Post #AOFE5XDdrfVRK9bhoG by lamp@mastodong.lol
2022-10-05T03:31:43Z
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@inference @dovelrei @SoyMagnus @itzzenxx @Coyote wtf is cfi
(DIR) Post #AOFE9tBA9xx6aeWXQm by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T03:30:43.667379Z
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@lamp @inference @dovelrei @SoyMagnus @Coyote control flow integrity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control-flow_integrity
(DIR) Post #AOFEFnL4mnLwDNychE by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T03:33:31.905579Z
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@lamp @dovelrei @SoyMagnus @itzzenxx @Coyote Control-flow Integrity. It produces a control-flow graph (CFG) during compile-time, to enforce the stack to point to functions intended in the source code (forward-edge CFI), and returns from functions back to the stack (backward-edge CFI). It ensures that the program is terminated rather than allow an attacker to modify the stack of the software to hijack functions to do whatever they want.
(DIR) Post #AOFEMAFkVMnH1FWRjU by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T03:34:41.824803Z
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@lamp @Coyote @SoyMagnus @dovelrei @itzzenxx Fun fact: Chromium uses forward-edge CFI, while Firefox does not. Therefore, Chromium is based, while Firefox is not.
(DIR) Post #AOFFI5jLThB3mvzHv6 by Coyote@shitposter.club
2022-10-05T03:45:07.542889Z
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@inference @dovelrei @SoyMagnus @lamp @itzzenxx how's surf vs cutebrowser?
(DIR) Post #AOFFLAxoTdEst7E2UK by Coyote@shitposter.club
2022-10-05T03:45:45.256609Z
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@lamp @inference @dovelrei @SoyMagnus @itzzenxx ^^ and that
(DIR) Post #AOFFb6dmJmGW75RzQe by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T03:48:34.918377Z
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@Coyote @dovelrei @SoyMagnus @lamp @itzzenxx One sec, let me raise my shields and hide in my fortress...*Raises shields and hides in fortress.*The *only* browser I recommend to anyone is Chromium-based, never anything else, especially Firefox or NetSurf etc if you want security or privacy. The only fallback I'd personally use is Safari, but never first choice.
(DIR) Post #AOFFc8DPwrCtHrbqE4 by Coyote@shitposter.club
2022-10-05T03:48:49.314590Z
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@cel @Jessica @itzzenxx @inference I like the functionality, I actually like the bar at the bottom, but eh.. rest of it is impressive use of fonts and config for sure.. Not into pink so much though... well, ya know.. just.. na.
(DIR) Post #AOFFcW7D5aVBPYtDsm by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T03:48:50.380838Z
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@Coyote @dovelrei @SoyMagnus @lamp @itzzenxx I answered this in a direct reply to the question.
(DIR) Post #AOFHLV7ZjR0TJV4fqK by wada@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T04:06:26.484467Z
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@inference @SoyMagnus @itzzenxx @Coyote I’m not buying it.A proper security model would mean properly sandboxing applications (which you can do in X11), rather than expecting the protocol to do it for you and limit what you can do overall as a result.Also, Wayland is nightmare for accessibility.
(DIR) Post #AOFIbM7p2wK605JWsq by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T04:22:14.595217Z
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@wada @SoyMagnus @itzzenxx @Coyote The protocol should do it by default; the user shouldn't have to take steps to harden it further.X can be nested, at a great cost to setup and configuration, but this doesn't change the enormous, bloated codebase of X and its XCSECURITY failure.Wayland is close to Android GUI isolation out of the box, and Android has an incredibly good display manager.
(DIR) Post #AOFIdNplfEkRsZptEe by inference@plr.inferencium.net
2022-10-05T04:22:38.064312Z
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@SoyMagnus @lamp @itzzenxx @Coyote I don't know whether that's a compliment or an insult...
(DIR) Post #AOFIs5TeCEwrI4V6NE by wada@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T04:23:32.241641Z
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@inference @SoyMagnus @itzzenxx @Coyote The protocol shouldn't have to require you to come up with an entire security module system in order to make accessibility functional.
(DIR) Post #AOFKfNCtANP0QDj9DE by wada@plma.plus.st
2022-10-05T04:43:38.927786Z
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@SoyMagnus @itzzenxx @inference @Coyote I’m actually mostly indifferent towards Wayland or X11 (aside from issues with accessibility), but I get especially bothered when people say things like ‘don’t use __ on a secure or private system’ because %99 of the time they are used on a secure/private system, just that their insecurity is mitigated by a whole confluence of factors (isolation, sandboxing, OPSEC, ‘burnability’, etc.).If you want to take security more seriously, just learn to be more secure???