Post AOD5tavOkwAdxpM5bM by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
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 (DIR) Post #AOCuKUIqHjyXnNNVuS by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T00:40:48.783890Z
       
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       Fight currently raging between uppity dindus and city council over removal of Andrew Jackson Bronze Statue , inaugurated on Feb , 9nth 1856 .
       
 (DIR) Post #AOCv99ccw582QJnAKO by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T00:49:57.855571Z
       
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       Holy based 🤣
       
 (DIR) Post #AOCvE8f7vnjMtYL1cm by Mackiavelli13@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-04T00:50:58.352434Z
       
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       His famous last words and I quote : I killed the bank !
       
 (DIR) Post #AOCvPI8n1z2RTeWyIK by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T00:52:53.801172Z
       
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       Well not technically a " Fascist " I'll consider Jackson a historical figure who was " Fascist in Spirit " , genuinely pro white , disliked by Jews and bankers , hater of democracy etc .
       
 (DIR) Post #AOCw0JJ5ervVoC06TY by DocScranton@poa.st
       2022-10-04T00:56:44.193806Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers thomas jefferson and john adams disagreed on a lot of shit but both were united by hating the fucking banks
       
 (DIR) Post #AOCw0Jmrs9kJIXvstE by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T00:59:36.222096Z
       
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       @DocScranton Jefferson was " bleach right "  and a nigger lover though , Adams was relatively unremarkable from what I've read lol
       
 (DIR) Post #AOCwC6vJWdqisQVS2i by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T01:01:43.494677Z
       
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       @DocScranton Plus Jefferson made a point of working with Quakers , for the sake of nigger loving .
       
 (DIR) Post #AOCwVKKftYo5xyX1QO by Ymiracle@poa.st
       2022-10-04T01:03:36.977715Z
       
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       @DocScranton @MelGibsonafter4Beers Too bad they were all talk.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOCwVKlGIi4fIQyFrk by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T01:05:11.589103Z
       
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       @Ymiracle @DocScranton Most of em , but if you need people to venerate from American History , you don't have to look far .
       
 (DIR) Post #AOCwYqQZ1V38NMxns0 by DocScranton@poa.st
       2022-10-04T01:04:11.598278Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers i’ve read around some of adams’s shit; he referenced the classical republics a lot and the constitution was his attempt to break free of the cycle from tyranny to anarchy to tyranny again  he had some very choice things to say about democracies, namely that they fucking suck and turn into hellholes amazingly fast; also this:  Because we have no government, armed with power, capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOCwYqvl9W0Fw7YiUi by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T01:05:49.944922Z
       
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       @DocScranton 
       
 (DIR) Post #AOCwjiw5DWk0KItUZc by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T01:07:47.746950Z
       
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       @DocScranton 
       
 (DIR) Post #AOCx7VWCkpSZfB89WC by Ymiracle@poa.st
       2022-10-04T01:10:30.779969Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @DocScranton Why Grant?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOCx7W7mV7W9XiiA5Y by Nou@poa.st
       2022-10-04T01:12:09.418612Z
       
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       @Ymiracle @MelGibsonafter4Beers @DocScranton Gigachad based Ohio Master race.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOCxEVgUXHZ0ClHUo4 by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T01:13:21.888127Z
       
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       @Ymiracle @DocScranton Expulsion of Jewish Land Speculators , people still light-switch brain on the civil war like it was actually about slavery .
       
 (DIR) Post #AOCxUEnd55bKTF7SnQ by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T01:16:12.165760Z
       
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       @Ymiracle @DocScranton I'll defend Custer's statue not being torn down as much as I'll defend Lee's not being torn down , simple as .
       
 (DIR) Post #AOCyJJ6YpjvUamKHr6 by Ymiracle@poa.st
       2022-10-04T01:22:59.221665Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @DocScranton That's not much to work with. He kissed jew ass forever after that. Also, everyone was a land speculator back then, especially Jackson.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOCyJJeEoWrgHE5BLc by Nou@poa.st
       2022-10-04T01:25:29.108296Z
       
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       @Ymiracle @MelGibsonafter4Beers @DocScranton Other than, you know, waging a war to end an overwhelmingly jewish industry.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOCyLMspkv08tGt8EK by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T01:25:47.934952Z
       
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       @Ymiracle @DocScranton He expelled specifically because they were Jews engaging in Jewish behavior , not because they were land Speculators.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOCyVsayhq7q8hY4v2 by KashKustomer@poa.st
       2022-10-04T01:27:46.169100Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton Press F for MM
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD1vhn7nWEy1TEifY by CarltonCash@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:00:16.665969Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton 
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD1viDMDzDxKpVfYe by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:05:58.318558Z
       
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       @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton The Franklin quote was a fabrication by William Dudley Pelley , there is a statue of Washington and Chaim Solomon literally holding fucking hands lolMost of the founders were predisposed towards philosemitic attitudes due to their revolution being influenced by the Enlightenment and french revolution lol
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD22OIIgbAZa30Sjw by Ymiracle@poa.st
       2022-10-04T01:56:49.863122Z
       
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       @Nou @MelGibsonafter4Beers @DocScranton Through his groveling for decades after, jews forgave him. I think I can find it in my heart to hate the traitor as much as jews learned to love him.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD22Okez9r300H6wa by Nou@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:07:15.505180Z
       
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       @Ymiracle @MelGibsonafter4Beers @DocScranton 🤷‍♂️ Certainly your choice. If that's the Narrative you're set on, it's unlikely I'm going to change your mind even if I were so inclined.I'm personally of the opinion that no one was perfect and tearing down all of your people's potential heroes because of flaws (real or imagined) is pretty unproductive. As evidenced by the fact that Whites are the only ones who do this.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD2fKgC3iddfCkd84 by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:14:12.876978Z
       
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       @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Doesn't mean we have to tear them all down , but we can still learn from them. Shit , the stuff about "free white men" was shitcanned with a new naturalization act , while many whites had no say over the supplanting of the articles of confederation and couldn't even brew whiskey without Washington giving them shit . Again , if you need people to venerate from American history , you don't have look very far . But the answer to "1984" isn't " 1776 " but rather " 1933 " .I'm just calling it 21st Century Americanism, honestly .
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD35TbHVwsYrNv61Y by Ymiracle@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:14:30.349626Z
       
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       @Nou @MelGibsonafter4Beers @DocScranton >no one was perfectCopout. He once attempted to oppose jews in one sector, but was immediately shot down. He's not a hero. He didn't follow through on anything except screwing over White people.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD35U2ZsSiIE2gtZQ by Nou@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:19:00.604039Z
       
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       @Ymiracle @MelGibsonafter4Beers @DocScranton Ok.Like I said, good luck on finding your heroes that have a 100% perfect track record dealing with kikes.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD4I4nb8VpDeuFjpg by Ymiracle@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:25:20.814159Z
       
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       @Nou @MelGibsonafter4Beers @DocScranton This dishonesty in your argumentation is blatant. When I call someone a traitor for being literally a traitor for decades, a portion of which was in the highest seat of American government, and your response is>good luck finding someone who's PERFECTGimme a break. Be honest with yourself and me, please.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD4I5ClcvxSuy1q40 by Nou@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:32:28.898162Z
       
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       @Ymiracle @MelGibsonafter4Beers @DocScranton Putting aside the fact that you haven't really substantiated any of your claims of treachery (beyond the repeated assertions of it), there's nothing dishonest about what I said. Jews have held the reigns of power for so long that literally anyone who has ever held any kind of power at any point will have had to work with them in a less than savory way.Your standard of purity is definitionally untenable.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD5XEsI3c9DCpF2Ke by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:46:23.521713Z
       
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       @CarltonCash @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton Lol this fuckin meme.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD5iZYlUVEuXqVs00 by hourmutt@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:48:28.512110Z
       
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       @CarltonCash @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton Hamilton continued, "And this is a good thing which we should strive to set in motion."
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD5ksJoiVFbItcS3M by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:48:50.657590Z
       
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       @CarltonCash @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton Lol the retard who made this meme used the Franklin quote where he was shitting on non-Anglo Europeans and calling them non-white as banter and just cut that part out.Holy shit I hate American White Nationalists sometimes
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD5s8jw3rWcGDIfEu by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:50:08.904671Z
       
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       @CarltonCash @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton lol he used the Hamilton quote where he disingenuously pretended to be anti-immigration to shit on Jefferson’s policies
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD5tavOkwAdxpM5bM by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:50:25.461147Z
       
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       @borzoi @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Your deep dives were hard to listen to during my more formative years , long dog , but they helped me grow as an antisemite .
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD64IIMMRTrN2CHwG by RupertvonRipp@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:52:25.470272Z
       
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       @borzoi @CarltonCash @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton That reminds me of open borders libs using a joke Washington told about wanting /any/ workman, even if he were a Turk or a Chinaman or some such, just to get some building project done on his estate as though he were making a serious request for infinite foreign labor.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD6ARsLebeSoyxuQi by dew_the_dew@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:53:30.417852Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton who is upper right
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD6K7BtPkCVZ3iTYW by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:55:14.059937Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton It’s just amazing to me that American White Nationalists think it’s an imperative to make up Founders quotes or divorce them completely from their context that there’s nothing meaningful you can attach yourself to. It just makes me believe that American Nationalism will always be impossible because the people who should be in charge of it keep showing they have the character of used car salesmen. A cursory look into who these men were makes it clear they were oligarchs who were White supremacists with some religious antisemitism and a lot of disdain for the people they ruled over. I don’t understand why people feel they need to desperately lie about this.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD6MCtdAkpvq4Aj8i by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:55:36.102150Z
       
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       @hourmutt @CarltonCash @DocScranton @Ymiracle That's why all hell be remembered for is a broad musical , centered around niggers. Father Coughlin and Ezra Pound understood what LaChaimilton's game was , thankfully I don't see too many Hamilton trusters.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD6Rq199FDacRN9o8 by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:56:37.503688Z
       
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       @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton They’re not wrong though. If it meant Washington got to keep his estates I don’t think he would be against it
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD6UDPL9eupk2p3QW by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:57:03.297760Z
       
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       @borzoi @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Just so we are clear on the Hamilton Question .
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD6XejvzUwxNb60bA by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:57:40.530344Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Coughlin also called him a kike
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD6Zc5OpR13jD4MM4 by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
       2022-10-04T02:58:05.199487Z
       
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       @borzoi @MelGibsonafter4Beers @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Maybe I'm securing myself more snugly in the echo chamber than you, but I don't run into people "lying about the founding fathers".Also, almost all oligarchs have some disdain for at least some of the people they rule over. People aren't equal.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD6kkhB9xDpcC3H2O by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:00:01.018259Z
       
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       @borzoi @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton I don't understand why Pelley lied , there was more honest material he could have drawn from and I wouldn't have to keep telling people that the Ben Franklin quote is fake .
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD6lRfvMUlguknNYG by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:00:09.147413Z
       
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       @Robert_Edwardly @MelGibsonafter4Beers @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton I see it once a month. I get exasperated because after reading multiple books and going to primary sources to the point I’ve proven wrong narratives I really wanted to believe in, I get tired of seeing bad narratives repeated that are unexamined because they feel good
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD6qaWjsVxtodx31U by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:01:09.504031Z
       
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       @borzoi @MelGibsonafter4Beers @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Yeah I don't doubt that you see them.Maybe you owe yourself a break from the engagement once in a while.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD6wEpdSB2oGbU54K by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:02:06.945628Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton The honest American has to fight with every fiber of his being to avoid being a snakes oil salesman. I don’t know why this is such an issue for us, why it’s so intrinsic to our character, but it’s how it’s always been for us. Just look at the history of the burned-over district.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD6yTo0khKvHonFKq by RupertvonRipp@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:02:34.256650Z
       
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       @borzoi @CarltonCash @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton True, but being a man of his station and times he'd have been steeped in classics enough to fear bringing in too many serviles and exotics.  Even had slavery not been abolished that was a constant worry, potential servile rebellion, particularly after Haiti.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD70uzwcdbUCYXPOq by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:02:57.166279Z
       
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       @borzoi @Robert_Edwardly @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton 
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD7AEtC2LdmUzpB7g by HighChiefVercingetorix@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:04:42.693143Z
       
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       @borzoi @MelGibsonafter4Beers @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Well most of the founders did make their wealth as land surveyors / speculators. (Same deal with Canada and likely the same deal with Australia and New Zealand).
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD7C0tL3D7JfIjqca by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:05:01.327126Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @borzoi @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton I love borzoi, but let's not compare anyone to Jesus.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD7DcXqXfLMjbS60O by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:05:14.528639Z
       
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       @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton Maybe but given his relationship with Hamilton and the jews I frankly doubt it. I’m not saying he’d be all “Yes, infinity niggers” but it would have started with the kind of immigration you saw after 1848 and I don’t think Washington would have opposed it. There’s nothing to indicate he would and he didn’t have the level of Anglo supremacist tendencies that even Franklin had
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD7KRzoA4382omtoe by RupertvonRipp@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:06:32.984156Z
       
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       @borzoi @CarltonCash @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton Truth.  It's easy to forget that the 76'rs were the 69' Boomer Crew of the 18th/19th centuries.  Their grandchildren and great grandchildren were /far/ more attuned to our sensibilities than they were.Peak White awareness was what?  From the failure of Reconstruction to the 20s?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD7XR4au5C8wmDaXR by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:08:48.386069Z
       
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       @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Franklin was kind of dick regarding the Germans , this is true .
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD7XmPZZHSB7vC8eW by RupertvonRipp@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:08:55.830244Z
       
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       @borzoi @CarltonCash @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton You're probably right.  It's easy to forget that the 76'rs were the 1960s Boomer equivalent of their age, a gen far more liberal in sentiment than the ones that came before them or after.Their grandchildren were far more /ourguy/ than they were.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD7a9b0L8wVbwfqNc by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:09:22.965176Z
       
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       @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton I do think the coverage of George in particular on ftn has been imbalanced.I'd love to talk with you guys about the federalist heritage and it's evolution (and (((corruption))) ) in depth some time, but I'm nowhere near arrogant enough to invite myself onto ftn. I just got vetted tho, maybe I'll see you at a thing
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD7eq5WITfIYZBJCq by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:10:10.656396Z
       
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       @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton Jackson is what you get from people young enough to remember the Revolution but not old enough to be the driver of it. Hence his ardent populism.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD7nxdPblUMZINqyW by RupertvonRipp@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:11:53.216184Z
       
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       @borzoi @CarltonCash @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton Jackson's closer to the 'far right' American's sentiments all around, isn't he?  Our actual Founding Father.  I'd even prefer the honest graft of his old spoils system to the far deeper corruption of the 'civil service' an its cult of expertise.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD7tO4IkudvzzY4XI by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:12:48.420051Z
       
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       @Robert_Edwardly @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton What do you think was wrong specifically and what’s your evidence? I’m completely open on this. I alluded to the fact that I was ready to shit all over Sam Adams during Shays Rebellion. Jazzhands can attest to this. I was ready to go. Then I checked the primary source for my quotes and threw hours of prep into the trash.I am not an inflexible ideologue on this
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD7tjTXAIIwOKW1HU by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:12:53.137476Z
       
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       @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton It was also a very different superficially healthier landscape in the 1800s , making it easier to overlook certain shit.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD83HucUzj7nlk0gq by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:14:36.282063Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton I mean, learning the extent to which the population was antisemitic while the Founders were religious antisemites at best was eye-opening
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD8G4HiTcnJIkddeC by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:16:53.873468Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton That’s vastly overstated. When you read the quotes in context you see how overblown they were and Franklin regretted them to the point he retracted it. You have to draw a huge distinction between Young Franklin and Statesman Franklin
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD8JewUdnJvrVQL1k by RupertvonRipp@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:17:34.764678Z
       
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       @borzoi @MelGibsonafter4Beers @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Young Franklin:  Clever shitposter.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD8KpoXhnKtrzGWGm by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:17:48.309836Z
       
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       @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton In the reading I have done including some sources you're familiar with and some not (I'm not prepared to go blow for blow in bibliography at the moment), I view Washington's actions as more or less uncontested re: your presented ftn narrative, but his motives as deeply muddied by Washingtons nature as, in my interpretation, a deeply naive and apolitical figure used as a tool and figurehead by others, and with a tendency to follow orders of those with higher philosophical or ideological ambitions. The post-whig narrative of the federalists has mobilized Washington, and actions like "town destroyer" in service of a cause I don't believe Washington understood, and had he understood it better, who can say what would have happened.But I'm also uncomfortable with a clean cut between yeoman/democratic republicanism and finance/whiggery in the service of fascism entirely, so obviously, I'm just doing a big brained nooonce and maybe I should stop talking.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD8OXz7w6SrjPzDhQ by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:18:23.537132Z
       
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       @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton Jackson was closer to the lived experience of Americans while most Founders were oligarchs, plantation owners, and land speculators.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD8QUtIPWhEiNBluS by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:18:46.824798Z
       
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       @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Infinity nigger ? What about Nigger² ?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD8VT1mlUUmNtWtu4 by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:19:40.154346Z
       
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       @RupertvonRipp @MelGibsonafter4Beers @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Yes!http://www.bibliomania.com/2/9/77/124/21473/1/frameset.html
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD8Y9Aj2qHTfgzNsu by dharmadudebro@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:20:13.471375Z
       
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       @HighChiefVercingetorix @borzoi @MelGibsonafter4Beers @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Hell the new Englander side of the founders ethnically cleansed the French out of Nova Scotia for more money
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD8a5iYrIeFXNk6Hg by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:20:31.203461Z
       
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       @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton He had some interesting (seemingly paradoxical) views on certain things . Like saying shit about the Talmud but also donating to synagogues .
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD8q90iNrNgNot9Dk by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:23:25.151629Z
       
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       @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Seems like many of them were also very fixated on civic nationalism / religious freedom .
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD8vHFx9aWJPASo7c by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:24:21.278914Z
       
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       @RupertvonRipp @MelGibsonafter4Beers @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton I say this a lot but the worst thing you can do is to fall into the trap of thinking everyone born before 1950 spoke in Shakespearean Ye Olde English, fainted at the sight of ankles, and were so autistically stolid they could only speak about improper things in a coded and roundabout way. Our ancestors had their own form of decorum but they also were funny and satirical and raunchy. They bantered. They were ironic. They liked dirty jokes and getting a rise out of their peers. They’re just like us
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD8xk4YzDJrM9JN6u by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:24:47.061242Z
       
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       @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton He Ben Franklin an ironybro ? 🤔
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD921Y9wpS4igCFX6 by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:25:33.660832Z
       
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       @RupertvonRipp @borzoi @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Many such historical cases
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD9BvQFaJxAbxDbRw by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:27:22.113814Z
       
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       @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Jackson was orphaned very young  , makes sense tbh
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD9IIyGwarzNrAqoq by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:28:30.936839Z
       
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       @RupertvonRipp @MelGibsonafter4Beers @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Tristram Shandy, A Modest Proposal, and Leck Mich im Arsch were all written in the same century as the Founding Fathers
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD9OYCrDFU8N9ySmW by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:29:38.597029Z
       
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       @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Wow , he's literally me
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD9P02ths9giNWu92 by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:29:43.224035Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton https://youtu.be/C78HBp-Youk
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD9QYfsRYNQP4VOEK by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
       2022-10-04T03:30:05.136354Z
       
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       It's also quite important to remember that Victorian prudishness wasn't an idea without merit. For hundreds of years before penicillin, promiscuous sex could result in syphilis, which would destroy your body, make you crazy, and kill you. Some of the top minds of that age died insane in sanitariums because they had a night with the wrong girl. Sexual conservatism was a survival mechanism, not some power play -- people actually like getting laid after all.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD9aGNbJlSIYiaIK0 by RupertvonRipp@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:31:48.693640Z
       
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       @borzoi @MelGibsonafter4Beers @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Noooo you're telling me they weren't brilliant demigods empowered by the Lord Almighty to write the most sacred document ever penned, The Constitution(TM), and above such petty things as 'play' and 'the concerns of mortal men?'
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD9bjndQ9Lo5oSs2C by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:32:01.148340Z
       
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       @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton I know Marx was likely an ironybro , along with his actually being an Ancap  , I feel like many overlook this .
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD9kNed7qd616NFPk by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:33:34.901865Z
       
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       @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton His depiction in " Amadeus " may have been faithful to what he was actually like , come to think of it .
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD9s49FX5x9puMQE4 by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:34:56.536740Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton If you can imagine your bros doing a choral piece together were they sing “kiss my ass” in harmony, that’s what Mozart wrote for his friends just messing around. The problem with our society is we no longer have a private and public sphere that are kept separate, but all of the geniuses we admire of our culture had a goofy side to them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOD9w5w6pJzIXY8SS8 by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:35:41.394777Z
       
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       @sj_zero @borzoi @CarltonCash @DocScranton @RupertvonRipp @Ymiracle untreated syphilis probably played some sort of role in the decline of Rome.
       
 (DIR) Post #AODA03d9LEzUXz9n3Q by dharmadudebro@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:36:28.765529Z
       
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       @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton I'd also say his roots as being descendent of the Scottish migrants to come to the colonies also played a major role in him developing populist tendencies.
       
 (DIR) Post #AODABkjxOuDbR2uxou by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:38:32.103458Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton In spirit it was. They weren’t just making that shit up. Mozart was an indulged prodigy child. So he had the psychological development you imagine. He was impetuous and immature and lewd and crude and had daddy issues. Thankfully he also really was a genius and known for his jovial spirit and generosity and his devotion. He was a very Puckish figure.
       
 (DIR) Post #AODAHvQ0c0pkI5WwOu by dharmadudebro@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:39:42.416667Z
       
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       @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton Clarification: Obviously the main drive for his populism was his close connection to those that desired to move into the interior however, even in these early days of America Scots-Americans would often settle amongst themselves in their own self made ethnic colonies
       
 (DIR) Post #AODANHZNgLbCRIT76O by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:40:37.970200Z
       
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       @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Artists and Poets aren't elevated anymore because our institutions don't produce them while excluding talented people entirely. Saddest part is we gave up these institutions without a fight.
       
 (DIR) Post #AODAeYeNQixsKw2j56 by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:43:48.105511Z
       
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       @borzoi @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton The guys on here weren't indulged or prodigies, what's their excuse
       
 (DIR) Post #AODAetXhkj6b8K5C64 by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:43:48.358257Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton What was bullshit about Amadeus largely was the way they depicted Salieri which is a consequence of it being based off a work by Pushkin. Salieri and Mozart had a much more cordial and respectful relationship with one another than the obsessions that Salieri is depicted with. Basically you can view Mozart as being accurate in spirit but viewed through the lens of a tragic character burning witness resentment
       
 (DIR) Post #AODAia3q7wHfs0s4q8 by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:44:27.671697Z
       
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       @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Beethoven wasn't so lucky
       
 (DIR) Post #AODAj2vgnJznP8HTf6 by RupertvonRipp@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:44:36.014416Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @borzoi @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton They were given up before we were born, by men misled and perhaps unknowing the horrors they would birth.  The earlier gens of elite who brought us to this present might very well have been on par with today's.  Isn't like the "abolish the family" crowd are pushing a new idea, the nig worship would have found a home in the "friends of the blacks" of rev. France, etc.Even being rid of the yid wouldn't cure the innate Jacobin of his madness.
       
 (DIR) Post #AODAuYGwbReLnWi1HU by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:46:38.475500Z
       
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       @Robert_Edwardly @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton A valid one , Jews .
       
 (DIR) Post #AODB5ZtstFco25BGIi by CrustyB@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:48:41.194223Z
       
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       @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @MelGibsonafter4Beers @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton "America was never innocent. We popped our cherry on the boat over and looked back with no regrets." -James Ellroy
       
 (DIR) Post #AODB5lugE7OLI1e4Cu by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:48:30.471243Z
       
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       @RupertvonRipp @borzoi @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton The Frankfurt Schul , and the resulting outgrowth of radical individualism and it's consequences. (Many other factors here , but I feel it was a big player)
       
 (DIR) Post #AODBGEwDAVF0CiLxCK by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:50:32.773640Z
       
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       @CrustyB @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton 
       
 (DIR) Post #AODBJtsrOARK43WyzQ by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:51:16.613639Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Jews aren't an excuse to be crude and psychologically underdeveloped.  LETS GET DOWN TO BUSINESSTO DEFEATTHE YIDSARE YOU WATCHING NETFLIXWHILE THEY RAPEYOUR KIDSYOU'RE THE SADDEST GOYS I EVER METBUT FASH UPBEFORE WE'RE THROUGHSOMEHOW ILLLLLMÄNNERBUNDESTEN DU(be a fash)WITH ALL THE WITH OF A PREACHING GOEBBELS(be a fash)WITH ALL THE STRENGTH OF ROMMELS DRAGOONS(be a fash)WITH ALL WISDOM OF OUR GREAT UNCLEMYSTERIOUS AS, OUR BASES ON THE MOOOOON
       
 (DIR) Post #AODBLvao0SrfwY3LLE by RupertvonRipp@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:51:38.267635Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @borzoi @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Sure but even had those plague rats not blighted us we still had the trend of elite modernism and the new fangled TV box to spellbind with new techniques mastered by advertising.  Jews wouldn't have gained their foothold without the general apostasy of the upper classes sapping the cultural/religious pillar of nationhood of its strength.
       
 (DIR) Post #AODBSwkQ6u1bYKtfDk by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:52:51.522458Z
       
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       @CrustyB @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton " the technique of infamy is to put quotes on a black background with a picture so you can use a sock account to make boomers on gab believe they are true " - Goebbels
       
 (DIR) Post #AODBin123sng0EDnRw by AnFashSchizo@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:55:46.499350Z
       
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       @borzoi @CarltonCash @MelGibsonafter4Beers @Ymiracle @DocScranton I will say nothing about this other than oof ow, what a shot
       
 (DIR) Post #AODBmPT7YCMi8D5OKW by Frondeur@poa.st
       2022-10-04T03:56:25.647174Z
       
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       @Robert_Edwardly @MelGibsonafter4Beers @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton I knew there were nazi moon bases
       
 (DIR) Post #AODCVsXAKjbLJ5evVg by Fever@shitposter.club
       2022-10-04T04:04:39.569894Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @CarltonCash @DocScranton @RupertvonRipp @Ymiracle @borzoi In high school I spent a month building a clay sculpture that was a little house carved into a tree. The whole school was talking about it. It got entered into a city wide contest held at the museum. It got 3rd place. It should have gotten 1st place, but politics. The same politics that happens in high school sports also happens with the faggots.
       
 (DIR) Post #AODCcrR6oT2Nvh9hgW by MK2boogaloo@freespeechextremist.com
       2022-10-04T04:05:56.076855Z
       
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       @Robert_Edwardly @MelGibsonafter4Beers @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton NOT a disappointing thread.
       
 (DIR) Post #AODCoAUCKJ1wCGzZK4 by Nou@poa.st
       2022-10-04T04:07:57.108161Z
       
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       @Robert_Edwardly @MelGibsonafter4Beers @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton Walt Bismarck did it better.
       
 (DIR) Post #AODDNVHB1PT6oMkbiK by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
       2022-10-04T04:14:20.464551Z
       
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       @Nou @MelGibsonafter4Beers @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton You laughed anyway.
       
 (DIR) Post #AODDX3YgvhEbk7UxCi by Nou@poa.st
       2022-10-04T04:16:03.509687Z
       
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       @Robert_Edwardly @MelGibsonafter4Beers @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton 
       
 (DIR) Post #AODSmvQCRtgGS6YEnQ by Ymiracle@poa.st
       2022-10-04T06:54:46.689702Z
       
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       @Nou @MelGibsonafter4Beers @DocScranton You clearly don't know anything about Grant if you need me to substantiate the most cursory information about his career. Go ahead and cling to that one time because it makes the butterflies in your tummy happy. Grow up.
       
 (DIR) Post #AODSmvr8pjEPnf9kn2 by Nou@poa.st
       2022-10-04T07:07:00.328762Z
       
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       @Ymiracle @MelGibsonafter4Beers @DocScranton Well, I stand corrected. Getting indignant that not everyone accept any claim you make on blind faith truly is the mark of maturity.I know when I see a sheboon acting identically to you when asked to support her favored conspiracy theory like White privilege, I certainly think "grown up."
       
 (DIR) Post #AOE8QpCdP2T8IWwdCC by Arthur_Pierce@poa.st
       2022-10-04T14:53:38.783850Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @sj_zero @borzoi @CarltonCash @DocScranton @RupertvonRipp @Ymiracle I'd read that syphilis originated in the new world. Was that wrong?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOE8Vnx3Tybprh23JQ by Arthur_Pierce@poa.st
       2022-10-04T14:54:32.720776Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @CrustyB @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton They hated Hitler because he spoke the truth.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOEaTIYk1Z74dpFjSi by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
       2022-10-04T20:07:49.352343Z
       
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       https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3956094/The first recorded cases were in France, a few years after Christopher Columbus returned from the new world.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOfl97Bwi5RSC3dxbc by Sir_Leon@poa.st
       2022-10-17T22:44:38.793994Z
       
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       @MelGibsonafter4Beers @CrustyB @borzoi @RupertvonRipp @CarltonCash @Ymiracle @DocScranton This meme is done to death at this point...