Post AOAmItilcdw06FJcBc by ozoned@mastodon.technology
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(DIR) Post #AOAGMDpU7SVanfzzSy by rysiek@mastodon.technology
2022-10-02T12:51:28Z
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To you, #Signal is:
(DIR) Post #AOAGMEHURKuUCX6M7M by pixelcode@social.tchncs.de
2022-10-02T12:59:40Z
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@rysiek To me, social networks are to some degree public which regular messengers aren't. Telegram does, in fact, include features of social media, but Signal, Threema or WhatsApp don't.
(DIR) Post #AOAGMEiQpASdY5hs6y by humanetech@mastodon.social
2022-10-02T17:55:23Z
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@pixelcode @rysiek To me social networking is what humans already do for thousands of years. It has gotten additional dimensions / possibilities provided by our modern technology. In that regard I see Signal as social networking tool. You can talk 1-to-1 or in groups while at physical distance, and catch up with friends, family or other people you know.And just like when having these gatherings offline, you wouldn't them to be livestreamed in most case. Public/private.. all social networking
(DIR) Post #AOAGMGySQYT6YNDhMu by humanetech@mastodon.social
2022-10-02T18:02:29Z
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@pixelcode @rysiek I tooted about this the other day. That I feel that the technology and branding has sort of blinded us. Do an image search on "Social" on Google or better a stock photo site, and you get images of people on smartphones, and Social Media logo's.To the extent that in our thinking almost: Social --> Technology 💡 That "Social" is about deeply human aspects that go far beyond that suprerficial technology level (and 'broadcasting' on Social Media), has become less obvious.
(DIR) Post #AOAIhlsKvqh0Nijgky by neglesaks@mstdn.io
2022-10-02T18:29:54Z
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@pixelcode @rysiek I agree that "social network" in the non-narrow sense, must include some degree of public presentation.
(DIR) Post #AOAImzbBKvUAOLCZ04 by arya@fedi.vern.cc
2022-10-02T18:26:33Z
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@rysiek centralized probable fed-honeypot
(DIR) Post #AOAIqcDCEKzT16i5Ls by iska@mk.starnix.network
2022-10-02T18:31:27.741Z
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@rysiek@mastodon.technology fed honeypot
(DIR) Post #AOAKuZyegDbR9YvVCa by maswan@mastodon.acc.sunet.se
2022-10-02T18:38:25Z
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@rysiekAn SMS client with some opportunistic encryption now and then.
(DIR) Post #AOAL3MNGcoWdZQcq5g by obsolete29@indieweb.social
2022-10-02T18:55:36Z
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@neglesaks @pixelcode @rysiek I'm not sure I agree with the requirement that there must be some degree of public presentation. A private chat group with 5 friends, sharing memes and photos of our cats counts as a social network imo.
(DIR) Post #AOALBcb8BppwCh38me by neglesaks@mstdn.io
2022-10-02T18:57:42Z
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@obsolete29 @pixelcode @rysiek Only in the narrow definition of the word. I'd call it a chat-room.
(DIR) Post #AOAN1chZ9IfLXQQ568 by Yujiri@collapsitarian.io
2022-10-02T19:18:19.187209Z
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@maswan @rysiek that's unreasonable. it is end to end encrypted. using non-cryptographic user IDs is a big problem but this is still an unreasonable description
(DIR) Post #AOAhkenKDEys8xrfJw by veer66@mstdn.io
2022-10-02T23:10:32Z
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@rysiek Phone number sharing service which doesn't support the web
(DIR) Post #AOAmIslDC4IP7XS3MG by ozoned@mastodon.technology
2022-10-02T18:09:21Z
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@rysiek to me a disappointment that they felt they had to insert a proprietary shim for spam fighting. I left with that announcement. 😥
(DIR) Post #AOAmItFhMigMe5iOsS by obsolete29@indieweb.social
2022-10-02T18:57:32Z
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@ozoned what do you use instead?
(DIR) Post #AOAmItilcdw06FJcBc by ozoned@mastodon.technology
2022-10-02T19:25:33Z
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@obsolete29 matrix. Definitely not perfect, they're still working on better e2ee, but they fully embracing open source and allowing a full ecosystem of clients. I think I remember Signal wanting control of the server and fighting alternative clients. It's their code and their right, but no thanks, especially with the spam fighting piece that can be anything. If I'm wrong someone please correct me. I won't be going back as my friends and family are on matrix, just nice to know if I am.
(DIR) Post #AOAnYB41WYfMBZ6jya by Afflicted@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-03T00:15:31Z
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@ozoned @obsolete29 I would switch fully to matrix from signal, but I still need sms for areas with weak service. With signal it has mms and sms all in one
(DIR) Post #AOAoSnWPj2xLg3NyXQ by CyborgZeta@fosstodon.org
2022-10-03T00:25:45Z
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@rysiek Signal is what I use for having private messages for the few people I was able to persuade to use it. For those people, it keeps me from having to touch my phone while I'm at home; since I use Signal Desktop on my PC.Best option for me at the moment. I had a hard enough time just persuading people to use Signal at all.
(DIR) Post #AOBSfjU62n8d5R1ZVg by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-10-03T07:56:15.781Z
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@rysiek@mastodon.technology A replacement to SMS which provides iMessage-like functionality.
(DIR) Post #AOBeESaxvdJwKx017Q by maswan@mastodon.acc.sunet.se
2022-10-03T10:03:23Z
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@YujiriThat's all I use signal for.It is only end to end encrypted to other signal users, which are outnumbered by my SMS recipients. Thus opportunistic, encryption happens when the recipient also happens to use signal.@rysiek
(DIR) Post #AOBeET7ZyNPNy6G3xA by Yujiri@collapsitarian.io
2022-10-03T10:05:49.416993Z
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@maswan @rysiek okay, but that's not signal's fault... if you're talking to someone using an unencrypted app, it's impossible to talk to them in an encrypted way. And iirc signal makes it pretty clear when you're talking to an SMS user
(DIR) Post #AOBnbEt3xb7W4OOuUS by maswan@mastodon.acc.sunet.se
2022-10-03T11:50:29Z
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@Yujiri ... yes? I haven't been looking to assign any fault, only answering what signal stands for to me.@rysiek
(DIR) Post #AOCPU6iPjzOqxNRjP6 by deshipu@mastodon.technology
2022-10-02T14:25:33Z
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@rysiek An indicator, such as a gesture or colored light, that serves as a means of communication.
(DIR) Post #AODgaSQc8SKLqLHwIq by phryk@mastodon.social
2022-10-04T09:39:43Z
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@rysiek An encrypted *mobile* messenger – the hard association to a phone number is a very critical distinction to me.