Post ANd9C647JjGe6fpX9M by pernia@cum.salon
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 (DIR) Post #ANcmBwOMz6f99xGAfQ by vriska@lizards.live
       2022-09-16T14:20:05Z
       
       7 likes, 4 repeats
       
       Perhaps the worst possible economic news
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcmFrbuhisnUKSv0y by vriska@lizards.live
       2022-09-16T14:20:48Z
       
       8 likes, 1 repeats
       
       Definitely want all of money to not only not physically exist but also be 100% controlled by a government that is anti-citizen
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcmLTNlhGLM5EWXHU by why@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T14:21:50.823908Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @vriska theyre right but the u.s. is not capable of approaching things sensibly
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcn0V3sMI21AEmZTE by Moon@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T14:29:13.745573Z
       
       25 likes, 20 repeats
       
       @vriska
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcn2UQ7iHubkr8Ziy by hector@explosion.party
       2022-09-16T14:29:23.234183Z
       
       6 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @vriska we're sorry, you have lost your privilege of buying Twinkies due to offensive Tweets. Your allowable foodstuff purchase list consists of:- gruel- bugs- coconutsPlease call the IRS Department of Microterrorism Prevention if you wish to contest this status.
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcnC87LUQDFTmx1Tk by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
       2022-09-16T14:29:56.979795Z
       
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       @Moon @vriska then don’t use CBDC, this seems to just be in an experimental stage. They’re not requiring you to forfeit all of your cash.
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcnWk3I9wKqvIspai by vriska@lizards.live
       2022-09-16T14:34:53Z
       
       6 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @itzzenxx @Moon yet
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcnX4EJ8h1xVGBuXQ by Moon@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T14:35:08.007901Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @itzzenxx @vriska should I not warn people about it?
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcnY16CGUbE5BqlaS by vriska@lizards.live
       2022-09-16T14:35:12Z
       
       6 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @itzzenxx @Moon + L + why are you defending the US government
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcnYMSErji0JdKAMK by thatbrickster@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T14:35:22.301411Z
       
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       @itzzenxx This is like saying don't use microtransactions because they're not required to play a game. Still a scummy practice that you don't know when it will become mandatory.@vriska @Moon
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcnaesjKBH02uoKMi by why@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T14:35:47.728523Z
       
       9 likes, 2 repeats
       
       @itzzenxx @vriska @Moon >They’re not requiring you to forfeit all of your cash.>They’re only requiring you to forfeit some of your cash.>some vendors just cant deal with legacy anymore>you can always find another bank>you can always start your own bank>you can always make your own currency>only bigots use cash anywaysetc you get the deal actually i dont care anymore dont respond to this gnueet
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcndZokbqdZCzLCnA by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
       2022-09-16T14:34:54.810480Z
       
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       @thatbrickster @vriska @Moon this is true, although it depends how brute forced it becomes.
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcniYoPm6yFXQYnfU by guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info
       2022-09-16T14:34:29.464167Z
       
       3 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @Moon @vriska Even the convenience; I don't see how it's more convenient than current electronic payments. It doesn't solve any problem for citizens, it only solves "citizen problems" for governments
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcnnCLIkAo7IX9cH2 by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
       2022-09-16T14:36:39.036857Z
       
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       @Moon @vriska I feel if the US starts to force people into this merely for “convenience” then I have an issue with it.Use what you want to use, forcing people into things never ends well.
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcnsgetSOV8lkw412 by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
       2022-09-16T14:37:38.467261Z
       
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       @vriska @Moon not trying to defend the government, just saying that they don’t want to take your money (at the moment, maybe)Hopefully they won’t but we’ll have to wait and see.
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcntD8Qi78pUd06Uq by dielan@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T14:39:08.383323Z
       
       5 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @why @itzzenxx @Moon @vriska maybe this is the boost the price of BTC needs :cacolaugh:
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcnuEWN2gj257gc3k by Moon@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T14:39:19.156133Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @itzzenxx @vriska i'm basically far past the point where i still believe they do anything to actually help us.
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcnyG677gGg85KAqG by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
       2022-09-16T14:38:39.071785Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @dielan @vriska @Moon @why lol
       
 (DIR) Post #ANco5rUAVuMy75CXE8 by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
       2022-09-16T14:40:01.389215Z
       
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       @Moon @vriska I’m still wishing to complement them on the good things they do and condemn the bad things they do. In this situation I’m in the middle here, I need to do a lot of more research which I don’t have time to allocate into at the moment.
       
 (DIR) Post #ANco8D7B4GjHm3ZEf2 by vriska@lizards.live
       2022-09-16T14:41:47Z
       
       6 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @itzzenxx @Moon the us government literally exists to take your money wtf are you talking about
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcoCELIReyUjx5Wjo by lebronjames75@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T14:42:34.413277Z
       
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       @vriska i dont understand what the purpose of the digital dollar isfiat currency IS practically digital anyways?what new feature does this include that any major FIAT currency already doesnt have? fiat can be made faster by making faster and more efficient code;something that the digital collar needs done anyway added modularly on top of normal dollar system?
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcoEFpls2clwfJ85o by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
       2022-09-16T14:41:31.680852Z
       
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       @vriska @Moon I meant money as in hard cash.
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcoEUEkJyv8cB6Gxs by vriska@lizards.live
       2022-09-16T14:42:57Z
       
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       @lebronjames75 the purpose is that it's really easy to control
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcoLXDnceoxtn1Bey by lebronjames75@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T14:44:15.844337Z
       
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       @vriska how is it easier to control than digital fiat currency right now as is? honestly this sounds like a money laundering scheme to me already
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcoMJfRVBSC9QJwPY by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
       2022-09-16T14:42:59.903483Z
       
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       @bot @vriska @Moon so much of crypto is just a meme to me, there are going to have to me numerous changes for me to feel comfortable using them again.
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcoMKelpAVhDd0v0C by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T14:44:24.757606Z
       
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       @lebronjames75 @vriska the govt cannot control cash, with fully digital currency that is centralized they could control every single USD.
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcoNDUNxTspHLZtx2 by Moon@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T14:44:33.599409Z
       
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       @bot @vriska @itzzenxx yeah that's true.
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcoPT5OwL5GEOxvRg by lebronjames75@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T14:44:58.527694Z
       
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       @antichrist_hater @vriska but the digital dollar would still need to be convertable to a phsyical dollar wouldnt it?
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcoRn1TmpVcdwEpKC by RustyCrab@sleepy.cafe
       2022-09-16T14:45:23.286415Z
       
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       @lebronjames75 @vriska there is currently no way to digitally transfer money that does not go through a private entity such as visa. Those companies can literally control who gets elected by cutting off their campaign funds.
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcosmoafRrPoj5Ae0 by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T14:50:16.776421Z
       
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       @lebronjames75 @vriska I don't think so no, that's the whole point of having it be digital imo
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcovCbJlcN4N01gmW by lebronjames75@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T14:50:42.408910Z
       
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       @antichrist_hater @vriska bitcoinUSA
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcozrIWOo3RkOSG6i by itzpaquet@novo-atlantis.null.media
       2022-09-16T14:51:20.387484Z
       
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       @vriska @itzzenxx @Moon lmao imagine having this level of faith in the us government.
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcp5JAkBofPe9PouW by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T14:52:32.539280Z
       
       1 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @lebronjames75 @vriska BUSA (bussy)
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcpr4sOe1xXCzbzXc by thatbrickster@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T15:01:08.447903Z
       
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       @itzzenxx Just because it's optional doesn't make it okay. That's all I'm saying.@vriska @Moon
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcqEOvEHVPg2W3fiC by itzzenxx@plma.plus.st
       2022-09-16T15:03:58.603632Z
       
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       @thatbrickster @vriska @Moon agreed
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcsWq5sCE9XQpxMqu by vriska@lizards.live
       2022-09-16T15:31:05Z
       
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       @itzpaquet @Moon @itzzenxx what are taxes Alex
       
 (DIR) Post #ANcvoroYpwiHqN9A80 by camedei456@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T16:08:00.332374Z
       
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       @why @vriska And even then, the Federal Reserve's feigning sensibility.Also, the Harvard cathedral really hates the citizenry after 2016 happened.
       
 (DIR) Post #ANd8rkDipL5mZ0cNua by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
       2022-09-16T18:34:06.653219Z
       
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       @Moon @vriska @itzzenxx It wasn't that long ago they made you give up all your gold. Then they moved all the good standard, also silver backing, etc.  :3
       
 (DIR) Post #ANd8xhPACwUvZLoETY by monsterislandcolonizer@poa.st
       2022-09-16T18:35:16.028561Z
       
       3 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @Moon @vriska 99% of our transactions are already digital. Every digital transaction is recorded in a ledger by your bank. You cannot open a bank account anonymously. The US dollar is already centralized. Banks already have full control of every penny you have unless you're hoarding cash (you're not). Access to your bank account can be turned off at any moment and your funds frozen right now.ALL THIS SHIT IS ALREADY HAPPENING
       
 (DIR) Post #ANd9C647JjGe6fpX9M by pernia@cum.salon
       2022-09-16T18:37:52.097421Z
       
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       @Moon @vriska all of this already happens with physical cash and bank money
       
 (DIR) Post #ANd9MtTQTQ1KEtogym by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
       2022-09-16T18:39:44.446271Z
       
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       @guizzy @vriska @Moon With programmable currency you can have discord mods hired in to auto tax all the stuff they don't like. And state level actors do the same to avoid wasting money bribing their sons just to get a cut. Cuts out the middlemen.So much better than laws when you can just do stuff quick and when you feel like it!
       
 (DIR) Post #ANd9RjxbGsPaBMF1f6 by lola@noagendasocial.com
       2022-09-16T18:39:57Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @antichrist_hater @vriska @lebronjames75 Hello. What is BUSA (bussy)?
       
 (DIR) Post #ANd9RkNphLOZUiVyYC by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T18:40:41.174983Z
       
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       @lola @vriska @lebronjames75 bussy is boy pussyBUSA is something we just made up
       
 (DIR) Post #ANd9VVvZO1pHop5hz6 by lola@noagendasocial.com
       2022-09-16T18:41:07Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @antichrist_hater @vriska @lebronjames75 Okay. TY
       
 (DIR) Post #ANd9WZiklin3sBbPAe by Moon@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T18:41:33.033712Z
       
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       @monsterislandcolonizer @vriska digital but not programmable exactly.
       
 (DIR) Post #ANd9WmII1QLWrsJxE8 by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
       2022-09-16T18:41:36.436462Z
       
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       @lola @vriska @lebronjames75 you are welcome, prob not the answer you expected though
       
 (DIR) Post #ANd9ed5M8wMqcn10BE by pyrate@poa.st
       2022-09-16T18:43:01.550022Z
       
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       @monsterislandcolonizer @Moon @vriska The only way out is destruction.
       
 (DIR) Post #ANd9hDKSMTW1bxJJvk by kaosktrl@poa.st
       2022-09-16T18:43:29.576809Z
       
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       @pyrate @monsterislandcolonizer @Moon @vriska creative destruction
       
 (DIR) Post #ANd9jwdmreOYiqee1Y by pyrate@poa.st
       2022-09-16T18:43:58.955424Z
       
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       @kaosktrl @monsterislandcolonizer @Moon @vriska In minecraft.
       
 (DIR) Post #ANdA81k7XvZlUq6Hg0 by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
       2022-09-16T18:48:15.873837Z
       
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       @Moon @vriska @monsterislandcolonizer This is important as you can have timed or realtime changes on blocking and taxing specific transactions and actors. And actions can trigger additional affects on other actors. This actually makes a big difference. As they can blame "AI" or "the system" for malfeasance that's made intermittent there is no legal recourse as they won't require audits or tracking on any of this. It's just a bug you bigot.
       
 (DIR) Post #ANdARXvI7pTKnsdI4u by lola@noagendasocial.com
       2022-09-16T18:49:44Z
       
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       @antichrist_hater @vriska @lebronjames75 I asked without having any expectations as to the answer. lol!
       
 (DIR) Post #ANdBf2EErRP0VtUVMG by anechoicmedia@poa.st
       2022-09-16T15:05:38.608334Z
       
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       @vriska Most of your money already doesn't physically exist and is 100% controlled by private entities that are anti-citizen.The difference is that for now, government still needs to go through an accountable legal process to get a court order to revoke services from you, while the private banks and payment processors have no such oversight and can end your livelihood because the ADL told them to.If antagonists had to actually prove a crime to cut off payments to someone they would be powerless because most deplatformed people aren't criminals. If the government ran the payments system like it does the Post Office more dissidents would be able to use it, not less.
       
 (DIR) Post #ANdBf2e7JE6Po9bAh6 by brimshae@poa.st
       2022-09-16T19:01:42.962785Z
       
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       @vriska @anechoicmedia @vriska >Government>AccountablePick one.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOZPP2yNY5dpzNtPcG by pernia@cum.salon
       2022-10-14T21:12:42.345355Z
       
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       @Moon @vriska >social credit scores>vulnerability to state and foreign actors>centralization>frozen fundsthis already happens>zero anonymity>zero privacy>cybersec attacks>banks have full control of every penny you own>every transaction is documented>all your movements are traceablethis is only achieved if you have a pile of cash that you made from working infomally, and make sure that it doesn't rot, doesn't get eaten by silverfish, and isn't found by the feds. if you dont wanna put your wealth in the bank then just buy gold or piratecoin/monero. although if you are running from the law short-term then yea this could fuck you up
       
 (DIR) Post #AOa3xrXs1ZmKqheLmS by Moon@shitposter.club
       2022-10-15T04:46:57.395172Z
       
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       @pernia @vriska programmable money is so much worse than an American credit score.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOb2HSvbFrwZXcvdoG by pernia@cum.salon
       2022-10-15T16:03:00.754254Z
       
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       @Moon @vriska how are you comparing money with a credit score? they're different things no?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOb5L5J9JdzTJ0MReq by Moon@shitposter.club
       2022-10-15T16:37:01.689576Z
       
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       @pernia @vriska it's a comparison by other people
       
 (DIR) Post #AOb5Q8HXgZgTyf156m by Moon@shitposter.club
       2022-10-15T16:37:38.058332Z
       
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       @pernia @vriska Chinese social credit comtrols what you can buy, even
       
 (DIR) Post #AOb5en8mZRmykiuQ9g by pernia@cum.salon
       2022-10-15T16:40:53.547524Z
       
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       @Moon @vriska wdym
       
 (DIR) Post #AOb5vddj9EruD1PsKe by Moon@shitposter.club
       2022-10-15T16:42:42.467766Z
       
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       @pernia @vriska I'm out right now at dinner but I'll come back to this post later and write more.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOb6wUvB9HMDPeYL4a by pernia@cum.salon
       2022-10-15T16:55:15.686562Z
       
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       @Moon @vriska the US can do that without digital money, just that enforcing it will be different (not even harder, really)
       
 (DIR) Post #AOb6zyPPyEILjhM1YW by pernia@cum.salon
       2022-10-15T16:55:55.560335Z
       
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       @Moon @vriska np moon, enjoy ur dinner!
       
 (DIR) Post #AOb71BsPNr33nKUjei by Moon@shitposter.club
       2022-10-15T16:56:04.575676Z
       
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       @pernia @vriska how's it going btw
       
 (DIR) Post #AOb7SbTiIzPB1211BQ by pernia@cum.salon
       2022-10-15T17:01:05.931861Z
       
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       @Moon @vriska pretty great, got the salon back :hapyday: been making bank and the budget looks good so i'll be buying a pixel and a bunch of other stuff soon. how are you doing?