Post ANYLOZpwsb3i9FMKGm by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
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(DIR) Post #ANYHOnB0soTzhi3igS by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T10:16:13.696673Z
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wanting to remake fedi because "activitypub is bad" or whatever is nice and all but it's just missing the point of what makes fedi good; it's not the technology, it's the peopleyou can write code but that won't make the people come to your network if it doesn't communicate with the rest; as that is the point of a social network
(DIR) Post #ANYHUxU1TafNPHtILg by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T10:17:21.623849Z
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@potzerus that's what mastodon did
(DIR) Post #ANYHbcxkAapzn3yMVs by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T10:18:33.907494Z
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@potzerus Mastodon used to run on OStatus and is what led the migration to ActivityPub
(DIR) Post #ANYHboIi0z8yxGrlDc by ukko@p.enes.lv
2022-09-14T10:18:10.529428Z
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@helene I'll force them
(DIR) Post #ANYHckGaV1uSjUJsxs by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T10:18:45.998844Z
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@ukko as long as you have cheese
(DIR) Post #ANYHnTampmCMChsuH2 by cope@eeeeeeeee.eu
2022-09-14T10:20:42.463691Z
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@helene it was compatible with ostatus, and then when they got the people, made it incompatible again and encumbered a perfectly fine protocol with a mess of legacy that can't be fixed.you could make a better network on activitypub, but then it would not be the federation anymore
(DIR) Post #ANYHwdKnywuV1cmADo by ukko@p.enes.lv
2022-09-14T10:19:05.631170Z
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@helene If Furkan forced me to join the fediverse I can force the fediverse to join my new epic federated social network
(DIR) Post #ANYHwgcHmPfxChyfNw by ukko@p.enes.lv
2022-09-14T10:20:30.277056Z
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@helene @potzerus that's like old GNU Social era stuff right
(DIR) Post #ANYHxB2CgcEVXmKmwq by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T10:22:27.535587Z
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@ukko @potzerus yep yep
(DIR) Post #ANYI03HbxkK2N6ubg0 by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T10:22:58.727990Z
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@cope @potzerus OStatus is many things but "perfectly fine"it had quite neat things though
(DIR) Post #ANYI98gDGbWfiRkhge by cope@eeeeeeeee.eu
2022-09-14T10:24:37.195579Z
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@potzerus i meant encumbering AP, even litepub has `"toot": "http://joinmastodon.org/ns#",` in it
(DIR) Post #ANYIFVWzDfqcKDTPe4 by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T10:25:46.037588Z
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@cope @potzerus it's just XML namespaces but for JSON really, ActivityPub isn't RSS-based so it makes sense
(DIR) Post #ANYJViohguD87M3WyG by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T10:39:53.545490Z
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@helene Bad argument.
(DIR) Post #ANYJpj5wMomiltenzc by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T10:43:31.454715Z
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@Zergling_man @helene yes very bad argument
(DIR) Post #ANYK2Vw6bN6Xj29eG8 by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T10:45:50.034607Z
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@antichrist_hater @Zergling_man why so?
(DIR) Post #ANYK4fYJorhK843Xmq by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T10:46:12.785823Z
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@helene @antichrist_hater You can justify Facebook by that logic.
(DIR) Post #ANYK7YNAyC8wjLDflo by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T10:46:44.725389Z
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@Zergling_man @antichrist_hater i mean, that's why it still exists though? same for instagram or twitter
(DIR) Post #ANYKBOKwE3lilK0FKC by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T10:47:26.340485Z
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@Zergling_man @antichrist_hater my point is "you've got to make it really compelling for people to move"
(DIR) Post #ANYKDMqij7gKjDoLnk by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T10:47:47.971896Z
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@helene @Zergling_man It seems like you are saying that a new better protocol or a better implementation of the current one shouldnt be used because then the other servers wouldnt be able to communicate with you, so basically excusing a bad status quo saying that something new is too tiresome to do.
(DIR) Post #ANYKLReIlWQvvmr0V6 by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T10:49:15.052034Z
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@helene @antichrist_hater And yet it continues to be a bad argument. A lot of people make very bad arguments, but they are still bad.
(DIR) Post #ANYKNcdEu0nYZaOZ5U by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T10:49:39.168790Z
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@helene @Zergling_man and I also disagree that the people make fedi good not the tech, the tech was first then the people came, if the people leave but the tech improves new people will come, people just are and they will come or go depending on the tech, and the tech can force them to be nice or can allow them to be assholes, if there was no mute or block option on fedi nobody would be here for example.
(DIR) Post #ANYKtBw1hFdp2ZEhZQ by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T10:55:20.562908Z
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@antichrist_hater @Zergling_man you can make new protocols if you want, mastodon did it to push a migration from OStatus to ActivityPubbut you've got to make it compelling or have a large enough userbase that people want to support that new protocol, or things just won't change and the protocol you want to deprecate never will be
(DIR) Post #ANYKzqE0oOpbjeosnw by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T10:56:33.625689Z
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@helene @Zergling_man I think the protocol just has to be better and your software good and all instance admins will test it out and eventually make it their main server.
(DIR) Post #ANYL1wUqSvXXlVhA5g by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T10:56:56.380556Z
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@helene @Zergling_man like you need to convince like 5 people in order to completely take over fedi.
(DIR) Post #ANYL474c6zlv9FScRk by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T10:57:19.139855Z
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@helene @antichrist_hater But the solution is simple. Dead simple. There's no missing the point on the part of the people making the software, only on the part of you who would detract because of it.
(DIR) Post #ANYLApLKQoK2BYTqFs by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T10:58:31.315011Z
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@antichrist_hater @Zergling_man if you consider the network to be 5 instances then yes surebut that's not the case; and i don't believe in that either, and not everyone uses the same software for a reason
(DIR) Post #ANYLHjNb0ARhiWphD6 by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T10:59:37.325851Z
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@Zergling_man @antichrist_hater not sure what you're saying here (could you reformulate?
(DIR) Post #ANYLOZpwsb3i9FMKGm by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T11:01:01.803858Z
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@helene @Zergling_man most of the network is a small number of instances where most of the users are, and if they were to adopt X software the rest would follow.The software just has to be good enough in order to justify moving to it, some companies rewrite their whole codebase in Rust, it's a matter of how good can you make it and more people will adopt it, past a certain point of goodness you are assured to dominate the market.
(DIR) Post #ANYLW9B5sfe1mdrKqG by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T11:02:22.281343Z
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@helene @antichrist_hater Arguing against a new proto on the technical grounds of that proto is fine. Arguing against it because "nobody uses it" is bad. If there is nothing technically wrong with the proto, use it. Then there'll be people using it.
(DIR) Post #ANYLldGcICTfRlpIjQ by blackmore@noagendasocial.com
2022-09-14T11:05:11Z
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@antichrist_hater @Zergling_man @helene It's 2022, you could even write a software with fallback compatibility with legacy protocol.
(DIR) Post #ANYLnNXLkQ2BEwUBo8 by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T11:05:29.327310Z
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@antichrist_hater @Zergling_man i don't see Secure Scuttlebutt very used or any of the similar alternatives eitherOStatus is supposedly much better than ActivityPub yet it's goneDiaspora is also supposedly much better but it's EoLetc, etc: so what's up with that, then?ActivityPub can and will improve so people will do that instead of rewriting everything and because they actually want to federate and talk with their friends or other software (or they'll at least support it, like Revolver); it's not a technical issue, people will improve the already existing stuff or support it/augment it
(DIR) Post #ANYLnW4xzJg5jWH9Jg by blackmore@noagendasocial.com
2022-09-14T11:05:32Z
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@antichrist_hater @Zergling_man @helene It's 2022, you could even write a software with a fallback compatibility to legacy protocol.
(DIR) Post #ANYLowtLmiGhBGWd4C by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T11:05:46.845626Z
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@blackmore @Zergling_man @helene yea but given how small fedi is that seems like a waste of time
(DIR) Post #ANYLvn9eNxEx0bPdL6 by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T11:07:01.999762Z
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@helene @Zergling_man yes most people will incrementally improve something that already exists until a more competent person/group creates something that is fundamentally better from scratch.
(DIR) Post #ANYLzK1kce2zpWOuvo by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T11:07:40.282191Z
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@helene @Zergling_man and I dont know about OStatus or whatever to be able to say that they are inherently superior to AP, my guess is probably not, otherwise they would have taken over.
(DIR) Post #ANYM02wfcNin8nMzlA by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T11:07:46.911735Z
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@helene @antichrist_hater I haven't heard of the first, I have considered joining a gnu social instance but gave up on that when I heard it switched to AP, and I don't know any other ostatus software.As I have said on diaspora, I don't use diaspora much because I can't be fucked leaving a browser open all the time. AFAIK diaspora's API is meant to come in 8.0 whenever that happens, then I'll start building a client and actually use it more.Which reminds me that I haven't checked lemmy today.
(DIR) Post #ANYM9D7HAhhVIAhU9I by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T11:09:25.917359Z
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@antichrist_hater @helene Keep in mind that AP's popularity is largely driven by mastodon. I'm sure I don't need to point out the flaw in your logic there.
(DIR) Post #ANYMFfAdmO462RLovY by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T11:10:35.657436Z
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@antichrist_hater @helene @blackmore It's not that the size of the network is too small to justify it, it's more that a new proto tends to be new because it's fundamentally incompatible. If there were a way to shoehorn feditron9000 into AP it would probably just be an AP extension instead.
(DIR) Post #ANYMILDYQ91v1XzUW0 by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T11:11:06.429933Z
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@Zergling_man @helene my point is given enough time the inherently superior technology will win, and working on top of something that is destined to lose is dumb in my opinion.You can always work on the actual better thing while using the worse but popular thing until it dies.
(DIR) Post #ANYMR4wGJZFF8s4KoK by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T11:12:40.038773Z
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@antichrist_hater @helene >given enough time the inherently superior technology will winI'm not convinced of this, not without us fighting tirelessly for it at least.Which I will do anyway.
(DIR) Post #ANYMlUiu9qnMu3YXku by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T11:16:22.629325Z
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@Zergling_man @helene honestly I think 99% of the people that use fedi have moved here because of twitter being censorous, not because of any advocacy from anybody in this side.
(DIR) Post #ANYMr82pOD6MIuYslM by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T11:17:22.638909Z
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@antichrist_hater @helene It's convenient when they do our job for us.
(DIR) Post #ANYMurT2xsKY37baCW by vhns@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T11:18:04.208719Z
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@antichrist_hater @Zergling_man @helene I moved to fedi because it's mostly free as in freedom.
(DIR) Post #ANYN7yz4KW117rq8UC by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T11:20:26.474656Z
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@Zergling_man @helene there is no fight or job, the bottom line is the only thing that matters, decentralized social media is inherently superior just like decentralized currency is inherently superior, and given enough time either humanity will cease to exist or those technologies will be adopted by the majority.
(DIR) Post #ANYNqcW2iFUiTPY2XQ by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T11:28:29.044543Z
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@antichrist_hater @Zergling_man >most of the network is a small number of instances where most of the users arethat's just blatantly wrong though, i think it's just your personal looking glass of who you follow and interact with, especially from SPC which is a large instance that is also blocked by a lot of other big instances for very various reasons (so there's a lot you'll never see from there)i can assure you from my timeline here that most of the people i interact with are from quite small instances; if you consider poast + baest + spc + fse + mastosoc to be fedi then it's just misguided, stats and usages particularly show otherwise, and my instance's peering list (or any federation stats from a Misskey/Foundkey/etc instance) would show how wrong that is>The software just has to be good enough in order to justify moving to ityes, and in 99% of cases, it isn't good enough. mastodon was good enough for people to move to it, pleroma too, but even in those cases, GNU Social compatibility was kept as a pseudo-transition period. those are exceptions.
(DIR) Post #ANYO5P4mxlYj8Qqirw by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T11:31:08.913379Z
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@helene @Zergling_man I dont have stats but I am so convinced the majority of users are in big instances that I am willing to risk looking dumb.mastodon.jp misskey.io spinster poast mastodon.socialthose are the type of instances most of fedi happens in.
(DIR) Post #ANYO7jWPuxDn7osovQ by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T11:31:36.034496Z
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@helene @Zergling_man sry I meant mstdn.jp
(DIR) Post #ANYOEWQH1BSSWgFMIa by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T11:32:48.504670Z
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@Zergling_man @antichrist_hater users don't care about the protocol, they care about something that works and something where their friends arepeople use whatsapp, facebook messenger, instagram, etc because that's where their friends and family are, not because it's particularly good. if something was that much better to push them to move then they would.twitter has groups, stories, posts where you can lock replies to followers only or no one, better edits and deletes, etc. isn't that an objectively better protocol and software? shouldn't that mean we should use twitter instead for those reasons, too? as far as i'm aware, that's not why people use twitter
(DIR) Post #ANYOOWB8mRkKfHw1my by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T11:34:35.847317Z
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@helene @antichrist_hater Twitter is godawful software. That much should be obvious.Anyway, https://birds.garden/notice/ANYKLNJ8f7j3GSwNEG
(DIR) Post #ANYOdPzk3PeXpVhyIy by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T11:37:19.647695Z
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@helene @Zergling_man when whatsapp required users to pay 1 euro for unlimited service (previously having it be free) millions of people moved to telegram and LINE, eventually coming back to whatsapp since they removed the paywall.Nobody uses facebook anymore except boomers, why? because facebook requires your real identity and young people don't wanna deal with that shit.all it takes is 1 bug or bad feature for everybody to abandon the place and go somewhere else.all they have to do is download an app is not like it's some massive effort, I've installed social media or messaging apps just to talk to 1 person, and I know other people do the same.
(DIR) Post #ANYOnpcLe0mYC1jPWq by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T11:39:11.429465Z
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@antichrist_hater @helene That is the second-biggest argument I get from people, annoyingly. "Why should I use X just to talk to one person".The biggest being "I don't want another program to manage"https://rakka.tk/static/pics/accounts.pnglol, lmao
(DIR) Post #ANYP1pEbrfXn3lIi2K by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T11:41:43.088568Z
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@Zergling_man @antichrist_hater it's not just that, it's also that ActivityPub had major improvements over OStatus that OStatus was just impossible to extend for, like post scopes, from what I've heard (I wanted to read OStatus docs but they're all gone, but considering what I've seen of the design, I believe it)Pleroma was designed as an ActivityPub-centered software first, OStatus second; and it was originally designed as a GNU Social frontend, mind you, so it's not "largely driven by Mastodon". In both cases, they kept compatibility for OStatus, because communicating with the people was still the most important. I don't believe either would've taken off if not for that.
(DIR) Post #ANYPHMSOcvlmRO9oiu by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T11:44:32.291601Z
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@antichrist_hater @Zergling_man very warped view and indeed you should look at the stats
(DIR) Post #ANYPLbeY4QlCjErjg8 by mergan@pleroma.viridianpatriots.com
2022-09-14T11:45:12.404110Z
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@helene @Zergling_man @antichrist_hater https://fediverse.space/
(DIR) Post #ANYPMKbawG8U96pVp2 by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T11:45:26.442531Z
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@Zergling_man @antichrist_hater >Twitter is godawful software.why, because it's closed source? i don't think it's relevant to 99% of people, it only matters here because it's fedi, and people here really care about that stuffotherwise no one actually cares
(DIR) Post #ANYPRWoUybmhSNLMdk by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T11:46:21.935716Z
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@helene @antichrist_hater Not even that. You just go on and try posting something and even that involves jumping through hoops. I don't know how anybody can stand it.
(DIR) Post #ANYPUjEvEUZKrfEGJc by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T11:46:57.735951Z
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@helene @Zergling_man ok I looked at the stats, I am right.
(DIR) Post #ANYPbya2axFYTBYy4O by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T11:48:15.161015Z
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@antichrist_hater @helene >birdbots>it's actually just a Twitter mirror:(
(DIR) Post #ANYPeuGr4e2nyNzDQu by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T11:48:48.052537Z
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@helene @Zergling_man Im pretty sure people care about not being able to say a bunch of things for fear of getting banned or silenced, and seeing ads constantly.
(DIR) Post #ANYPl3ws0P2Hj1ZeJk by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T11:49:53.707963Z
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@antichrist_hater @helene Also real arguments I have heard, from so-called "friends":1) "I don't say weird things so it's fine"2) "Actually I like personalised ads"
(DIR) Post #ANYPqYb1UBB0E0yW6i by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T11:50:54.442982Z
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@Zergling_man @helene 10 years ago people would be super active on social media, now everybody just uses instant messaging like whatsapp, nobody fucking uses twitter anyway, except companies and influencers (only to post business stuff)
(DIR) Post #ANYPsYprZCj3Xws7SC by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T11:51:15.673217Z
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@antichrist_hater @helene Which is why the news talks about it. :^)
(DIR) Post #ANYQGfnlJoLe6MO3Em by mint@ryona.agency
2022-09-14T11:55:25.835126Z
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@Zergling_man @helene @antichrist_hater Pure cattle, especially on second part.
(DIR) Post #ANYQJdNCnsR1RHNROC by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T11:56:08.529978Z
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@antichrist_hater @Zergling_man some do, most don't which is why twitter is still the most used social network in the world, and discord is also the most used IM platform in the world, because most people believe those issues are not outweighing the advantages or worth missing out on the people using them
(DIR) Post #ANYQKLrBPmYfOzk0Dw by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T11:56:16.173173Z
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@mint @helene @antichrist_hater NPC meme is real.
(DIR) Post #ANYQM0976dVWe8ulKi by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T11:56:34.891214Z
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@helene @antichrist_hater
(DIR) Post #ANYQQ64H1wYgAgbU3M by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T11:57:18.816875Z
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@Zergling_man @antichrist_hater should've said "microblogging", but yeah tiktok etcstill the same point really
(DIR) Post #ANYQY46UDXr2ObRE5Q by ukko@p.enes.lv
2022-09-14T11:58:18.991944Z
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@helene @Zergling_man @antichrist_hater If we could federate with Twitter aside from creating crossposting bots, that'd already be a part of ActivityPub
(DIR) Post #ANYQaQB976KfRKk0cS by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T11:59:11.355503Z
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@ukko @antichrist_hater @helene And for one glorious hour before they figure out how to instance block, there would be chaos.
(DIR) Post #ANYQoYIBkCTAeqm0DQ by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T12:01:43.841508Z
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@helene @antichrist_hater @ukko I already figured out the game rules, btw:Quality over quantity: When a Twit blocks you you gain their follower count in points.Instance balance: Your instance's score is divided by its user account.Two leaderboards, one for individuals, one for instances.
(DIR) Post #ANYS0G69JcFleuHuvQ by shark@weeaboo.space
2022-09-14T12:15:03.640996Z
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@antichrist_hater @helene @Zergling_man click on the statues and sort by number of statuses, not that it changes the result that much but…
(DIR) Post #ANYS37XvZGdy0Je6IS by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T12:15:34.778410Z
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@shark @helene @antichrist_hater haha pawoo go brrrrrrrrrrrr
(DIR) Post #ANYSpCVARkh5H0HUMS by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T12:24:16.631790Z
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@helene @Zergling_man because there is no good enough alternative
(DIR) Post #ANYTOfvR2fJSfGU16O by helene@p.helene.moe
2022-09-14T12:30:40.994717Z
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@antichrist_hater @Zergling_man so why isn't someone making "good enough" alternatives, then, if that's such a problem?if mastodon/pleroma/misskey/diaspora/scuttlebutt/... isn't a "good enough" alternative to twitter: why, and what would one be then?if xmpp/matrix/revolut.chat/mattermost/irc/guilded/signal/threema/... isn't a "good enough" alternative to discord: why, and what would one be then?
(DIR) Post #ANYU2GBw8gdWR54qWW by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T12:37:50.529084Z
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@helene @Zergling_man it's a matter of time, the tech has to get better and be less buggy overtime and the network stronger, normies need stability, is not so much about the current state of the tech being bad but rather the fact they dont trust its gonna continue in the future, lets be honest there is no fedi instance you can build a business upon and not fear its gonna dissappear tomorrow.Normies want a strong leader, in a decentralized platform, the network is that strong leader, currently the network is very weak and divided.I've been talking about this a lot I feel like I'm rambling and saying many things, it's a complex topic and there is many variables.
(DIR) Post #ANYU8KTf7KEBSwGJM0 by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T12:38:55.909466Z
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@antichrist_hater @helene >lets be honest there is no fedi instance you can build a business upon and not fear its gonna dissappear tomorrowSure there is. As the call always goes: HOST YOUR OWN
(DIR) Post #ANYUEMR6kOPPHJwYIS by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T12:40:01.644990Z
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@helene @Zergling_man and the reason why someone isnt making good enough alternatives is because well there is no immediate benefit and the investment is big, in order to develop things as high quality as the twitter phone apps, everything about it feels so good, the scrolling, the shape of the image containers, the font, the speed at which characters appear after you type them, everything is carefully craftes to be real nice, I mean twitter just has so many good things going for it, even if its dying, you need a lot to even start competing with it.
(DIR) Post #ANYUJZVBb2alFVKrzs by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T12:40:57.138674Z
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@antichrist_hater @helene But twitter is actually dogshit.Husky is fine.Foneposting is still normie-tier
(DIR) Post #ANYUOi2rGETbC1XFdA by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T12:41:53.897858Z
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@Zergling_man @helene if twitter had no ads and no censoring and no propaganda hashtags it would be the perfect microblogging platform
(DIR) Post #ANYUTujBXBf1yXobJI by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T12:42:50.029401Z
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@antichrist_hater @helene lolwat
(DIR) Post #ANYUXmQ0N0vFMYgfjc by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T12:43:32.291178Z
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@Zergling_man @helene yes host your own instance in a weak network...For a company that makes open source software/hardware or other business related to the ppl that currentlt use fedi, yes, but other businesses dont have the incentive.
(DIR) Post #ANYUeoBYCQQKrzHHjk by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T12:44:48.474536Z
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@Zergling_man @helene twitter's tech is very good if they made it open source fedi would use it immediately, I mean we already copy avlot of their stuff.
(DIR) Post #ANYUoabNYb9tda1T84 by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T12:46:33.455232Z
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@antichrist_hater @helene Somewhat reasonable. I should put an account for my store. But, being a game store, so, local-only, no online service, it's kinda pointless at present. I have found exactly two other people on fedi who live on the same landmass as me. Maybe there are more lurking about.I'll do it anyway once I put my own instance up though. I'm just holding off on that for a while because I think it's fine as it is, so I'm only planning to put one up for my game bot. (And I came across a thing for exactly that, which seemed interesting, and I swear I wrote down the name but I can't find it now.)
(DIR) Post #ANYUs0ZFTRQB2MelF2 by mergan@pleroma.viridianpatriots.com
2022-09-14T12:47:03.117757Z
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@Zergling_man @helene @antichrist_hater if twitter had no posts, no users, no interface, and only showed a picture of a cat it would be the perfect macroblogging platform
(DIR) Post #ANYUwYHc3usElKZeu8 by honky@eveningzoo.club
2022-09-14T12:48:00.545637Z
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You understand
(DIR) Post #ANYV5eepjOZD8fmAOu by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T12:49:39.288948Z
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@antichrist_hater @helene "good"https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/counting-charactersAlso holy SHIT the amount of tools there are out there for the very simple act of counting characters lol"You might argue that the length of text in human terms is not actually all that interesting a quantity, and you’d be right" - https://eev.ee/blog/2015/09/12/dark-corners-of-unicode/
(DIR) Post #ANYVQUe89FgkAdNqgC by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T12:53:25.632033Z
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@Zergling_man @helene yes they have a limit of characters, its not meant for massive paragraphs, I dont see the problem
(DIR) Post #ANYVUhMmnRtcmQHBNg by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T12:54:10.761409Z
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@antichrist_hater @helene But look at how it counts lmao
(DIR) Post #ANYVeWQkJNv9l3oRbU by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T12:55:57.501884Z
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@Zergling_man @helene whats wrong with it?
(DIR) Post #ANYVgePDd98D4Y75Y8 by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T12:56:20.256059Z
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@antichrist_hater @helene It's utterly insane.
(DIR) Post #ANYVioaAlTVvDKGjE8 by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T12:56:44.271311Z
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@Zergling_man @helene can u say whats wrong with it
(DIR) Post #ANYVpIDjU4QQs8rU3s by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T12:57:52.754883Z
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@antichrist_hater @helene It's arbitrary, based on an approximation of how a human counts it (because there is no canonical answer there).
(DIR) Post #ANYW9QKz0zlTq1qtd2 by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T13:01:32.746681Z
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@Zergling_man @helene I think its because their limit us from a conceptual point of view, not technical, so some characters might be counted as less even though technically they are more in unicode, they want everybody to have the same amount of info they can express in 1 tweet no matter if they are using latin or japanese or links or emojis.
(DIR) Post #ANYWBiqRAzIbohf1N2 by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T13:01:57.303722Z
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@antichrist_hater @helene Which is, of course, retarded.
(DIR) Post #ANYWWLdCg7flu2J0oS by antichrist_hater@shitposter.club
2022-09-14T13:05:41.295002Z
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@Zergling_man @helene I think it's reasonable, the limit is not there because they cant handle more than 280 characters technically, it's there because they want a culture of short posts, different languages have a different rate of unicode character count per concept expressed, so they normalize it all with that system they have.
(DIR) Post #ANYWd97Dbuph72aQXw by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-09-14T13:06:54.687519Z
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@antichrist_hater @helene Except they don't.And, again, that's retarded.That's why they added auto-threading, because they know it's retarded, and so does everybody else.Again, dogshit software.