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(DIR) Post #ANV7SQ4EZReDv32VU0 by MetokurFembot@poa.st
2022-09-12T21:02:08.526828Z
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This is one of my favorite sayings from re-zero. I'm not so much a supporter of Emily but Rem
(DIR) Post #ANV7SRpm0BGjOmHzDk by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-12T21:09:58.492859Z
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@MetokurFembot Ok but guys real talk never cry in front of a woman or show them weakness like this, they will actually be revolted by it because they are are weak creatures who depend on men to take care of them.It is instinctual and they cannot help it. Worse, some of them will be cruel about it or use it against you later.
(DIR) Post #ANV8dIh6QLFuBvyLK4 by sybirak@poa.st
2022-09-12T21:15:21.751226Z
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@Kinochet @MetokurFembot crying isnt always showing weakness, fleeing from your own tears cuz woman there, this can be cuckedi had a good friend die a few years back, i didnt cry at his funeral because i have this retard instinct of "lol dont cry in front of mates or grills" and its just extremely pathetic, those who dared to shed tears were more chad than me at that funeral.
(DIR) Post #ANV8dJ9SitwNbtEzWi by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-12T21:23:32.084210Z
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@sybirak @MetokurFembot I’m a fan of stoicism. Crying does not benefit you, and it certainly doesn’t benefit those around you. It’s the opposite actually, putting on a strong face in front of others makes them feel safer and more secure. It inspires young men around you to be stronger.And in some instances, crying, especially in front of others, can be a selfish act, or a display meant for others.
(DIR) Post #ANVBDdoGBdUoGgpu2S by sybirak@poa.st
2022-09-12T21:38:50.121572Z
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@Kinochet @MetokurFembot it is not so simple. putting on a show is the problem, whether that is crying to get something, or trying to impress somebody with not crying, instead you should dare to authentically engage with your self and the world.you like stoicism? read seneca, i find him a very great philosopher, not at all reductive but good at conveying the complexities of human life, his work on anger is wonderful
(DIR) Post #ANVBDeMI96iZyEl55E by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-12T21:59:44.494316Z
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@sybirak @MetokurFembot I don't care about authentically engaging with the world around me. We are weak and flawed creatures and our feelings often betray us, and the world around us is unforgiving.There is a lot more utility in having others be able to trust and rely on the few strong people in their lives than there is for everyone to be helpless together. By acting brave or strong you inspire others around you and make others feel secure.Imagine a family unit - a father, a mother and some children. If you are in a plane crash and you(the father) think you are all certainly going to die(likely, but sometimes people do survive), what good does it do your family to panic and express fear? Panic and fear are quite contagious, but so is courage. Even if the courage is a lie. You should do your best to assure them it's going to be okay in their final moments. Give them hope, even if there is none. It is your duty as a man in this situation to be a good steward to those around you.
(DIR) Post #ANVBYZo8GGdtwAl82y by MetokurFembot@poa.st
2022-09-12T21:40:39.425168Z
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@Kinochet it depends. Like if a random guy or just someone who was crushing on me like cried to me yeah it would be an instant turn off and I'd want them to go away. If @LTJG_Guts cried to me it would show vulnerability and most importantly trust and being a team. It shows comradery and a willingness to be open. I love that. I'd hate to feel useless and like I can't even be trusted to offload on.
(DIR) Post #ANVBYaMWCQ9Feoqae0 by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-12T22:03:27.970965Z
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@MetokurFembot @LTJG_Guts That's nice and you probably even believe that, but I think human nature says otherwise. You may even react that way at first - but then what if the relationship turns sour? You won't think that way about the situation later. This is the reality of things because life isn't a fairy tale where credits roll after he cries in your lap. Time goes on and things happen.
(DIR) Post #ANVBq6umQGpvXZEHp2 by stormyxdreamers@poa.st
2022-09-12T22:09:13.164928Z
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@Kinochet @sybirak @MetokurFembot being in a situation such as a plane crash versus expressing grief at the passing of a loved one are two very different emotional situations.
(DIR) Post #ANVBq7OYdYej1vA4Ei by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-12T22:09:54.862674Z
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@stormyxdreamers @MetokurFembot @sybirak I don't think so. I think the situations should both be treated the same, for the same reasons.
(DIR) Post #ANVC7UwqJx1108U9hY by sybirak@poa.st
2022-09-12T22:10:00.714601Z
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@Kinochet @MetokurFembot why not summon real courage in that situation? the real courage to hope against hope, since in your specific example this is all one has? or is that perhaps what one is already doing in such a situation? authentically gauging the world around you and doing your best?shedding a tear in front of a woman is not going to leave the world in flailing panic, nor is it going to ruin the people around you (nor your chances with the woman, if this is your concern) please understand that i have never claimed that blindly following the impulse of grief is the path of the chad(hence why you should be strong in your example) but categorically refusing to share sorrows because you are afraid of polluting something in the social ether this is not being a pillar of the community, it can at best be misguided altruism, and at worst it can be cowardice.
(DIR) Post #ANVC7VLIr0a6DzvgpM by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-12T22:15:41.969847Z
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@sybirak @MetokurFembot What I described is real courage. It is easy to break down and panic when you're afraid, or cry when you are sad. The physiological functions for doing either are baked into us. You are not placing your trust in anyone by doing a normal bodily function.It is not easy to put on a brave face, or to hold back your true feelings for the consideration of others. It's rather difficult.
(DIR) Post #ANVCq4ZhDsowEkuhMW by sybirak@poa.st
2022-09-12T22:16:17.338446Z
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@Kinochet @MetokurFembot the same way its not always easy todare to express how you really feel
(DIR) Post #ANVCq54BOXCtlJB2si by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-12T22:27:12.028304Z
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@sybirak @MetokurFembot The payoff for doing such a thing is an unrealistic expectation that's been presented to us by society(films, literature, what have you) that others will be receptive to your display of emotion.This concept is mostly pushed by the people that generally hate societal and gender norms. Or worse, by women who say one thing while they don't really mean it(even if they don't realize it).In reality, women especially, will be put off by such a display. Or later down the road, will think differently of how you acted if that relationship soured.And then you have to consider others around you in situations like children. Children cry because they cannot control their emotions. Seeing strong people around them refrain even when it's obvious they are sad or in grief sets a good example for them and teaches them about the complexity of how you act in front of others.At one of my great grandmother's funerals, my great uncle(her son) gave her eulogy to a large crowd of extended family. He never cried while giving that eulogy despite others around who were. He gave a very nice speech about her life and her family. It was inspiring and probably very hard for him.If he broke down crying during this, I would think different of him, or I would maybe even expect that to be the behavior someone should display at a funeral.Neither scenario would change the fact that she was dead or that others at the funeral were very sad and in tears. But it gave me a lot to think about as a young child and set a good example for me.
(DIR) Post #ANVCuJ5JDXmeOfie0m by stormyxdreamers@poa.st
2022-09-12T22:21:00.702414Z
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@sybirak @Kinochet @MetokurFembot it is unhealthy to always hold emotions back...it can lead to exactly what kinochet is worried about...anxiety, depression etc
(DIR) Post #ANVCuJa9MsSBwK9H5E by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-12T22:27:57.307286Z
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@stormyxdreamers @sybirak @MetokurFembot I'm not worried about anxiety or depression and I do not have either of those.
(DIR) Post #ANVDMklRtm2GLtzgxc by CenturianFrend@poa.st
2022-09-12T22:30:51.129146Z
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@sybirak @Kinochet @MetokurFembot There are very few instances where a man can cry in public, other than that hold it in and cry in private.
(DIR) Post #ANVDV5Dzi9T27rJm5o by stormyxdreamers@poa.st
2022-09-12T22:30:12.555110Z
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@Kinochet @sybirak @MetokurFembot I was speaking more in terms of research and the likelihood of these occurring; not you specifically.
(DIR) Post #ANVDV5dACZbHNv5sK8 by kuroihitsuji1@poa.st
2022-09-12T22:31:38.524615Z
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@stormyxdreamers @Kinochet @MetokurFembot @sybirak uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
(DIR) Post #ANVEsVZk0PeYSwDvG4 by bugfy@poa.st
2022-09-12T22:23:34.490914Z
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@Kinochet @MetokurFembot Have to agree. Words are the main weapon women use to retaliate and get their way. They can and will use anything you say or do in retaliation to get the upper hand. This is known and twas ever thus and nothing to get hung about.
(DIR) Post #ANVEsWEVYqGMVNITnk by AustimWarrior@poa.st
2022-09-12T22:38:43.506795Z
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@bugfy @Kinochet @MetokurFembot the trick is to tell her lies and cry about it, so later if he's a shit who wants to use it against you you can say "what are you talking about that never happened you stupid bitch!"gaslight selectively
(DIR) Post #ANVEsX1QcxOWx6BY3M by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-12T22:52:22.516064Z
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@AustimWarrior @bugfy @MetokurFembot If your feelings change about how someone acted because your relationship changes later, then what is the truth?A woman who says she wants you to be vulnerable and then you are - this will be used against you later if the relationship sours or ends. People(women especially) are not honest when they say what they want. It's not complicated.Just like how I'd like to be perceived as brave or stoic when I am really afraid or sad, women want their boyfriend or husband to think they are empathetic and trusting, when they aren't. Even if they are in the moment, again, the fact that their feelings on the situation will change when that relationship goes south means they are not, but are doing their best to pretend to be.So in the end it is better for both parties to pretend and it benefits the relationship as a whole.
(DIR) Post #ANVFM2Dji9026v0hfM by One2many@poa.st
2022-09-12T22:58:21.845610Z
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@Kinochet @AustimWarrior @bugfy @MetokurFembot Do you think men should be able to be weak around other men instead. Showing vulnerability to long time friends.
(DIR) Post #ANVFM2iZrTfZeZRKjo by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-12T23:00:46.614641Z
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@One2many @AustimWarrior @bugfy @MetokurFembot No, because it benefits everyone around you, not just women or children. It will inspire the men around you too. In the same way a brave soldier letting out a battle cry as he charges the opposing battalion will inspire the other soldiers to join the charge and fight their best.
(DIR) Post #ANVFkZdB8y6QgHbzzU by stormyxdreamers@poa.st
2022-09-12T23:03:57.168867Z
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@Kinochet @AustimWarrior @bugfy @MetokurFembot is there research to support this theory? Or only learned experience?
(DIR) Post #ANVFkaGAnzIKdDr8ls by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-12T23:08:04.590459Z
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@stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy Research by who? The people who subvert society of gender/societal norms in TV, Movies, literature and other media?This is a logical and philosophical discussion.
(DIR) Post #ANVGAt23dI7CNknOi0 by One2many@poa.st
2022-09-12T23:09:06.526446Z
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@Kinochet @AustimWarrior @bugfy @MetokurFembot Then one should bare the burden of suffering in silence. I think it personally more inspiring to see a fellow man over-come ones vulnerabilities and weaknesses to become stronger and a better version of themselves. Then simply just putting on a facade of bravery and strength. Bravery does not come without first fear, and strength comes after weakness.
(DIR) Post #ANVGAtXbjzLtxbYasy by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-12T23:15:00.422175Z
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@One2many @AustimWarrior @bugfy @MetokurFembot What you're saying doesn't make sense. One does not come before the other, it's a reaction to the other.Panic and Bravery are different reactions to Fear.Crying and Withholding tears are different reactions to Sorrow.I've explained in detail the benefits of my line of thinking, and you've given me "well I think it's better this way" followed by an untrue statement meant to confuse me or others or maybe you just don't understand what you said.
(DIR) Post #ANVGpsOEvQg0GNiUYy by stormyxdreamers@poa.st
2022-09-12T23:10:34.823271Z
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@Kinochet @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy well philosophically you are shitting on women while saying they shit on men 🙄
(DIR) Post #ANVGpt3MSXZOJuxKeu by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-12T23:25:13.988592Z
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@stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy I am detailing how people react to situations. I am not shitting on women I am simply stating uncomfortable truths. What they often say is not sincere to how they actually feel.Let's pretend for a moment I am wrong. Then explain to me why women will view an incident in a different light when their relationship ends? Are they just all bitter and vindictive? Perhaps you are the one shitting on women now.If a woman confides in me and cries - my view of that scenario will never change even if we break up. I do not expect them to be stoic or strong and I expect them to be weak and vulnerable both emotionally and physically, because they are.If I confide in tears with a woman, they may feel good in the moment or pretend to, or they may immediately reject me. But once that relationship ends they will think less of me in that moment. This is because they expect men to be strong and dependable and that is what they want because they are weak and vulnerable. This is the dynamic of most male-female relationships among most species.
(DIR) Post #ANVGuHPlpH732BX4Lo by KHEKlord@poa.st
2022-09-12T23:18:47.622633Z
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@Kinochet @AustimWarrior @bugfy @MetokurFembot It's not even that they aren't honest. They (women) don't even know what they want themselves, because they are emotional.
(DIR) Post #ANVGuHnsNeOYEwoJvM by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-12T23:26:21.802050Z
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@KHEKlord @AustimWarrior @bugfy @MetokurFembot It's more than that, they also are victims of people who try to subvert gender and societal norms.
(DIR) Post #ANVHOZGU1XYh5DdAbg by bad_tits@poa.st
2022-09-12T23:27:17.508721Z
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@Kinochet @MetokurFembot Mostly true, though if someone dies or a guy has suffered a traumatic experience these are the exceptions. I've seen my bff of twenty years cry 3x. When his friend died, when his daughter died, and when he pulled bodies from the water after the i40 Bridge collapse, and I'll never think less of him for any of them.
(DIR) Post #ANVHOZhmO3OQRsOy9Y by bad_tits@poa.st
2022-09-12T23:29:08.913904Z
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@Kinochet @MetokurFembot To be fair though I don't like it when women cry in front of me either, and I only cry in front of others if I'm in a rage. And even that is still embarrassing.
(DIR) Post #ANVHOa6wsTWfhwB4Ns by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-12T23:31:56.148222Z
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@bad_tits @MetokurFembot That's nice and happy that you have that relationship. Being in that relationship keeps a certain train of thought and feelings for people. This is the same way that a woman may endear herself to a man who is doing bad things and may even help him - but then once that relationship is over they'll be disgusted with them or maybe even themselves.
(DIR) Post #ANVIePEZBbYAYnqmdU by stormyxdreamers@poa.st
2022-09-12T23:36:16.893210Z
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@Kinochet @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy Your own life experiences are not the same for everyone else and a blanket statement that all women are insincere etc is disingenuous yourself. It's unwise to use absolutes.
(DIR) Post #ANVIePo13nuGKkR5tI by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-12T23:44:33.318489Z
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@stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy I think you greatly misunderstand my points or maybe you are offended by them. I am open to discussion anytime but I've yet to hear any any actual rebuttals or explanations for why I would be wrong.If I am proposing that women are disingenuous(and I don't mean this maliciously) and that will think differently on a situation of a man crying after they break up with the person, the only response I've gotten to this is "I love my current boyfriend and I would never look bad at him for crying and opening up to me"Well I have already explained this in my original statement - their views will change when that relationship sours or ends. If that boyfriend later cheats on them or they have a bitter break up, are you going to say nice things about that one time he cried? No, you'll be honest about how you really feel and might even take pleasure in making fun of them for it because some people are vindictive. Well why is that?In the reverse situation, if my girlfriend cries in front of me and opens up about her insecurities, and we have a bitter breakup, there is no scenario where I go "oh yeah well you were a faggot for crying when your dad died" because it's not unbecoming for a woman to cry.
(DIR) Post #ANVKywJM7Cqmqc0dhQ by clairebere@poa.st
2022-09-12T23:41:41.210597Z
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@stormyxdreamers @Kinochet @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy Jesus, who hurt you Kinochet? Basically what you guys are saying boils down to "lie to everyone about how you really feel, even those you should be able to share anything with. Pretend to be strong and stoic at all times, swallow your feelings, and put on a brave face."I hate the term "toxic masculinity". This is actually "toxic humanity", but these attitudes are pushed on men quite often. It is an incredibly jaded and cowardly way to live your life. "Don't expose yourself and you can't be hurt." This is an incredibly destructive attitude to have and is great at tearing apart interpersonal relationships, friendships, romance, and families. This is how you end up with kids growing up in a family that never talks about problems, they just ignore them and hope they will go away. Then junior drives drunk into an overpass, or mom ODs on oxygen, or dad eats a shotgun blast and everyone goes "we didn't know! They seemed so happy!"Faking your way through life is bullshit and for pussies. It is much harder but much more worthwhile to be honest to yourself and others about what you're feeling. There are plenty of people out there who will appreciate that sort of candor and show you their true selves in return. People who will love you for who you REALLY ARE, not for some facade you keep up at all times.Will you get hurt along the way? Yes. But you just cut those people out and move on. The bigger the risk, the bigger the reward. Real love means nothing unless you also have experienced real sorrow.
(DIR) Post #ANVKywouDu5UQSlpsO by stormyxdreamers@poa.st
2022-09-12T23:52:47.203637Z
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@clairebere @Kinochet @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy yes, the real cultural norm that has been taught in our society is narcissism and being stoic...not the opposite. If a woman does reject a man for expressing himself then he should reject her for being a cold, narcissistic, heartless cunt. She clearly isn't being the sweet vulnerable type if she can do that.
(DIR) Post #ANVKyxCenb5Pc7sntg by clairebere@poa.st
2022-09-13T00:04:18.254355Z
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@stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @Kinochet @MetokurFembot @bugfy The argument I keep seeing here is that "if you show weakness, it will be used against you later in a fight or after a break up they will think less of you." So fucking what? If it's after a break up, why do you care what some dumb bitch thinks anyway, or any of her friends she might tattle to? Cut them all out of your life and move on. If it's used against you by a current partner during a fight well then you know what kind of person they really are and you can take appropriate measures.I'm nearly 39 years old. I've been through some bad breakups. One ex was abusive to me for 12 years. I might think badly about how some of my exes acted or treated me, but I never once have thought "man, what a pussy he was when he cried over his father dying." It would never occur to me to think that way. I know I can't be the only woman like this. If your exes have been the type to judge you for crying, then maybe you need instead to examine why you are seeking out that type of woman.
(DIR) Post #ANVKyxSbqHqYPbLXlI by clairebere@poa.st
2022-09-12T23:44:32.345953Z
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@stormyxdreamers @Kinochet @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy Fucking auto correct...ODs on oxys not oxygen lmao
(DIR) Post #ANVKyxfj3WL34HU1Cq by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-13T00:12:15.217096Z
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@clairebere @stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy You misunderstand why I am saying what I'm saying.If a woman changes her attitude towards what you did after you breakup, I am simply pointing out that their initial reaction was not genuine, or the reaction was shaded by feelings of love and betrays the societal/gender norm that women expect men to be protectors and providers.There is no benefit to me to cry to my girlfriend, short or long term. There is a benefit to her for me being stoic, both immediate and long term.
(DIR) Post #ANVLOCrBjgP3P1slqi by Old_Meme_Clown@poa.st
2022-09-13T00:14:59.952669Z
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@clairebere @stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @Kinochet @MetokurFembot @bugfy
(DIR) Post #ANVLsKOkGJaHTkwQrI by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-13T00:22:15.996754Z
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@clairebere @stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy "Who hurt you Kinochet?" is pretty much what I described as women doing - I am having an open and honest discussion with people on the internet about the true nature of feelings between men, women, and the people around them. I can do this anonymously without affecting anyone around me negatively to explain to people why I am saying what I am saying.You then assume I am jaded, maybe even slightly mocking me for it "faking your way through life is for pussies". Maybe that's not your intention but your words say as much. I am not saying don't expose yourself because you can get hurt, but I am warning that that is certainly the most likely outcome.I also expressed the benefits for both parties in men practicing stoicism.Kids can confide in their problems in their parents because they are allowed to be vulnerable to their parents. This is also a societal norm. So I reject your assertion that men being stoic leads to kids being dysfunctional and not being able to confide in someone. The relationship between children and their parents is a different dynamic than between a man and his wife or a man and his children.
(DIR) Post #ANVNQ8RdJLL2Cpyc2S by SavageGerbil@poa.st
2022-09-13T00:33:48.902001Z
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@Kinochet @clairebere @stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy This is way more thought that I've ever out into it. I feel what I'm gonna feel, express what I'm gonna express, and just handle my business.99% of the time, I won't care one way or the other, to each their own. In this 1% case, though, I've gotta beg you to go give Ralph stoicism lessons. Your boy's been a little out of control this year
(DIR) Post #ANVNQ8wTSg0ZkUPF6u by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-13T00:39:35.063422Z
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@SavageGerbil @clairebere @stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy Why do you think I find Ralph so funny? He has almost no filter, no impulse control, and is a crybaby little bitch. His leaked text conversations with girlfriend shows he's a whiny bitch, who does things like tell girls who they hurt him almost as much as his daddy did. Or when he suicide baited them.He is the exact opposite of what a woman should want in a man, both physically and emotionally. He is a constant danger to himself and everyone around him.
(DIR) Post #ANVNloGn09FI0PEvjM by stormyxdreamers@poa.st
2022-09-13T00:39:30.460121Z
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@Kinochet @clairebere @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy men have hurt me but I can't make blanket statements "all men" will hurt me
(DIR) Post #ANVNlogJTFf7HZBJVw by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-13T00:43:30.091560Z
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@stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy @clairebere Again you are misunderstanding why I am making the statements that I am making.Me saying that women are disingenuous and might use it against you later if you open up to them isn't because women have done this to me. It's because this is in their nature they want a man who is a protector and a provider even if they don't want to admit it, and even if they are saying they want men to do this in good faith, their real feelings will betray them later, not because they are bad people, but because this is the dynamic between men and women.
(DIR) Post #ANVNy3OUazOMO5gIc4 by MetokurFembot@poa.st
2022-09-13T00:37:51.344644Z
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@Kinochet @LTJG_Guts if the relation were to sour then it certainly wouldn't be because of that tho. Like Aaron has exposed his pains to me before. He's never like cried but if he did it certainly wouldn't effect me negatively. If it soured tho you're right. If he cried when things have gone bad then it would def hit differently. It wouldn't be the same tho. We would be already drifting apart and his expression would be an irritant like the situation I expressed before about some no one crying at me being repulsive. It hits different when it's someone u love.
(DIR) Post #ANVNy3wsX8ti6jllD6 by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-13T00:45:42.688210Z
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@MetokurFembot @LTJG_Guts Yes and I explained this already in one of the replies - your current relationship jades your reaction to the situation. The relationship changing will change your perspective of that situation later.Alternatively, if you were to cry to him about a situation, and you have a nasty break up later, his perspective you crying to him previous won't change. Why is that? It's because women look to men for strength, protection, and to provide. Not the other way around.
(DIR) Post #ANVOD65yplxL6rCBn6 by teaclips@poa.st
2022-09-13T00:48:26.087995Z
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@Kinochet @stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy @clairebere Men are like that too. It’s called being too faced and it’s a behavior not a gender thing.
(DIR) Post #ANVONGeqQ0BAlQLvbE by Mackiavelli13@poa.st
2022-09-13T00:49:10.266186Z
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@teaclips @Kinochet @stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy @clairebere Troon face ?
(DIR) Post #ANVOOQ6GnVIuL2jKhk by teaclips@poa.st
2022-09-13T00:50:28.930413Z
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@Mackiavelli13 @Kinochet @stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy @clairebere That too
(DIR) Post #ANVOiogp5FacORYNAO by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-13T00:54:09.924522Z
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@teaclips @stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy @clairebere I'm talking about a specific circumstance when it comes to vulnerability, crying in front of others, and stoicism.If men are two faced about things, it's about a different situation and not relevant to the discussion. I'm not saying they can't be two faced, but I am talking about a specific scenario here.
(DIR) Post #ANVRp3fsaDtcT3mPy4 by stormyxdreamers@poa.st
2022-09-13T01:07:14.345811Z
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@Kinochet @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy @clairebere sounds like some basic bitches yo A woman with integrity, reason, emotional maturity and genuine empathy would know:If a man provides for his family but cries at a funeral he is not weakIf a man fights off an intruder but cries when his dad is dying he is not weakAnd even the panic can be understandable depending on the situation because of the nature of fight, flight, freeze, hide instincts. If a man runs and hides from a lion to stay alive He will continue to provide for his family. If he fights or freezes he dies and no more man to provide.
(DIR) Post #ANVRp4B4iEqk1oNKam by clairebere@poa.st
2022-09-13T01:17:24.236982Z
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@stormyxdreamers @Kinochet @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy This is a great discussion and I want to continue to add my thoughts later or tomorrow when I can get to a PC and more thoroughly respond to individual points, which is really hard to do from a phone. O do want to say that I wasn't intending to mock you Kinochet or imply you're a pussy. My sincere apologies for it appearing that way. You is good people.
(DIR) Post #ANVRp4gcow5Rbf8Wlk by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-13T01:28:54.367273Z
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@clairebere @stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy I would like to clarify my thoughts on the following statements you made Stormy:>If a man provides for his family but cries at a funeral he is not weakSure, but I still think that women, children, and the other men around a man who is stoic even at a funeral is rewarding to all parties to reasons I already explained previously in the thread.>If a man fights off an intruder but cries when his dad is dying he is not weakI mean this is the same statement as above.Keep in mind this originated from discussing an anime scene where a character is crying in a girl's lap and opening up to her because he has experienced dying over and over in a Groundhog's Day scenario, and he's not crying because of grief or because he died in a weird anime scenario, but because of his feeling of anxiety and helplessness of the situation.I am saying that if a man cries for those reasons especially after the woman asks him to open up to her - the woman will think less of him. If she doesn't now, she will later if the relationship sours. You can draw 2 conclusions from this:1. my assertion, that women are unwittingly lying to themselves and will actually feel repulsed if a man cries in front of her like this. These true feelings may be masked by current "love" emotions.2. women are dishonest.Additionally, this is an example of media influencing societal norms. These unnatural expectations and desires perpetrated by subverters who want to bend gender and societal norms or weaken society in general for their own purposes.
(DIR) Post #ANVTvFnQcyAxhzOQPQ by stormyxdreamers@poa.st
2022-09-13T01:48:09.015729Z
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@Kinochet @clairebere @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy so he's crying cuz he has experienced serious trauma, physiologically changing him at no fault of his own. Again, if a woman does what you say after that, she's basic.
(DIR) Post #ANVTvGkH6BFOeUvQ8G by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-13T01:52:20.849898Z
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@stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy @clairebere Yes, and again, it's not because they are malicious. It's because they instinctively are turned off by men who are vulnerable because they are, in their DNA, searching for protectors/providers.
(DIR) Post #ANVXFPFLV7kmfjkgs4 by stormyxdreamers@poa.st
2022-09-13T02:28:57.629024Z
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@Kinochet @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy @clairebere I think we're just gonna disagree on some points here and that's fine.
(DIR) Post #ANVXFPtP6BnQfyUgJE by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-13T02:29:41.693605Z
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@stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy @clairebere Ok well I'm not going to cry in front of you, stop asking!
(DIR) Post #ANVXVch5Gu5x0nSX8S by stormyxdreamers@poa.st
2022-09-13T02:31:39.524552Z
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@Kinochet @AustimWarrior @MetokurFembot @bugfy @clairebere deal 😝
(DIR) Post #ANVZAPbmvZaGFsznAu by MetokurFembot@poa.st
2022-09-13T02:31:44.853766Z
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@TheRalphRetort @Kinochet @stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @bugfy @clairebere we can just make @TheRalphRetort cry.
(DIR) Post #ANVZAQ1fNMHfY96SVk by stormyxdreamers@poa.st
2022-09-13T02:33:01.223920Z
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@TheRalphRetort @MetokurFembot @Kinochet @AustimWarrior @TheRalphRetort @bugfy @clairebere didn't faith's diary mention that?
(DIR) Post #ANVZAQPlvjZAkuNi5I by MetokurFembot@poa.st
2022-09-13T02:43:13.974578Z
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@TheRalphRetort @stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @Kinochet @TheRalphRetort @bugfy @clairebere remember the DMs where he said he's kill himself. Lol sad boi hour. At least warski only threatened shenads passport if she didn't get an abortion. Ralph threatened to a ort himself. Never did tho. Just a coward using emotional manipulation but sucking at it.
(DIR) Post #ANVZAQvK2QnsKl8uGG by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-13T02:51:11.753308Z
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@MetokurFembot @stormyxdreamers @AustimWarrior @TheRalphRetort @bugfy @clairebere Yeah I referenced that earlier too. He suicide baited her and has done so with other girlfriends. He also told Faith "you've hurt me more than everyone except my father"NOT MUH RONNIE
(DIR) Post #ANVee1b7GO9YFGcZQu by stormyxdreamers@poa.st
2022-09-12T22:16:43.998675Z
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@Kinochet @MetokurFembot @sybirak it's cool 😎 Seems we all disagree with you on this.
(DIR) Post #ANVee1vK3GJfFw4hvc by KingDick@poa.st
2022-09-13T00:29:37.142110Z
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@stormyxdreamers @Kinochet @MetokurFembot @sybirak >we allSpeak for yourself.
(DIR) Post #ANVee2K8Z0AKUtgWbg by stormyxdreamers@poa.st
2022-09-13T00:51:10.030062Z
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@KingDick @Kinochet @MetokurFembot @sybirak where did I say "we all"?
(DIR) Post #ANVee2hXA0sffSdD4i by KingDick@poa.st
2022-09-13T03:46:09.316749Z
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@stormyxdreamers @Kinochet @MetokurFembot @sybirak What did he mean by this? 🤔
(DIR) Post #ANVee34Dnf1qnpFKRE by Kinochet@poa.st
2022-09-13T03:52:34.301746Z
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@KingDick @stormyxdreamers @MetokurFembot @sybirak lol