Post ANVFDah2Ap5EQ2ghaC by dhfir@expired.mentality.rip
(DIR) More posts by dhfir@expired.mentality.rip
(DIR) Post #ANUeaY3Xr3TaLHF0dM by alexispurslane@mastodon.lol
2022-09-12T15:56:17Z
0 likes, 1 repeats
"A team of scientists in Texas used CRISPR to edit out genes associated with autism traits in mice and observed clear results: The animals stopped digging obsessively, their erratic jumping around the cages slowed to a halt and they became more calm."This sounds like a fucking lobotmy. They're just editing out all the behaviors except placid "normal" ones.The article also refers to autism as a "developmental disorder" that autistic people "suffer from."https://www.newsweek.com/scientists-edit-autism-genes-traits-texas-crispr-research-mice-997948#autism
(DIR) Post #ANUeaYdLhw7G8JzbRQ by alexispurslane@mastodon.lol
2022-09-12T15:57:48Z
1 likes, 1 repeats
Neurotypicals are seriously fucking obsessed with rigidly enforcing some arbitrary standard of normalcy, just hiding away and eliminating all diversity in the human species to make everyone fit their neat little society with its neat little boxes.
(DIR) Post #ANUjmbZ98BnQTOagVM by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-09-12T17:15:23.635Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@alexispurslane@mastodon.lol I completely understand the sentiment here, but autism being a spectrum, there are people who are autistic who was very close to "normal" and those who are at the other end and essentially unable to take care of themselves. I think gene editing whatsoever is scary, but I also think it'd be good to lessen dehabilitating conditions.
(DIR) Post #ANUmHkgrSMPPepBATw by dhfir@expired.mentality.rip
2022-09-12T17:43:27.041751Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@alexispurslane what the fuck???
(DIR) Post #ANUnbxgkwFsBiVKYSW by rolenthedeep@mastodon.lol
2022-09-12T17:52:24Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@alexispurslane some autistic people *do* suffer. Autism is a spectrum, and we all experience it differently. A blanket assertion that autism on its own does not cause suffering or disability is ableism.Identifying the function of genes is not eugenics, genocide, or violence. That claim is exactly as bad as "vaccines cause autism" Better understanding the mechanisms behind autism can genuinely help people who suffer with it in ways that don't involve gene editing.
(DIR) Post #ANUnby8PHRzV6GGdYe by fcktheworld587@social.linux.pizza
2022-09-12T17:58:17Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@rolenthedeep @alexispurslane word! Beat me to it
(DIR) Post #ANUnbzJQtwPAkkQxNo by rolenthedeep@mastodon.lol
2022-09-12T17:55:58Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@alexispurslane for instance, OCD and ADHD are pretty common with ASD and seem to have a genetic component. Understanding this mechanism could provide better treatment, which I think is something that almost anyone with those conditions would be thrilled over.Understanding why and how some autistic people are non-verbal can help their families provide better support and communicationUnderstanding the how and why of a condition is how we begin to identify treatments and support, which we need
(DIR) Post #ANVEcAqjISKrYHNgbA by dhfir@expired.mentality.rip
2022-09-12T23:00:54.176354Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@stellarskylark @alexispurslane @rolenthedeep @changeling @apophis remember the shit with alzheimers?
(DIR) Post #ANVFDah2Ap5EQ2ghaC by dhfir@expired.mentality.rip
2022-09-12T23:07:38.993428Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@stellarskylark @alexispurslane @rolenthedeep @changeling @apophis I don't remember specifics, but someone apparently linked a particular protien to alzheimer's in (genetically modified) mice, and then everyone looked at humans, found a similar protein, and thought, yup, that's probably linked to alzheimer's somehow.long story short, the whole thing was bull, said protein doesn't exist outside those specific rats, and the human equivalent was entirely unrelated to alzheimer's
(DIR) Post #ANVFKGfF2TdoKN27Ga by dhfir@expired.mentality.rip
2022-09-12T23:08:52.625480Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@stellarskylark @alexispurslane @apophis @changeling @rolenthedeep apparently they developed a "alzheimer's test" looking for that very protien.
(DIR) Post #ANVFrcQBASMVMVtHto by dhfir@expired.mentality.rip
2022-09-12T23:14:53.722576Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@AlienSkyler @apophis @changeling @alexispurslane @rolenthedeep oh, did you know apparently in autistic people's brains, the part of the brain normally used for social shit instead reacts to the person's special interest.so in a way, one absolutely can model neurotypicals as autistic people with a special interest in socializing (though there's probably some more to it)
(DIR) Post #ANVFxHT9ymIw7Oz7mC by Hyolobrika@gleasonator.com
2022-09-12T23:15:55.125117Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
I actually really want to socialise, I'm just bad at it. Am I not autistic?
(DIR) Post #ANVGzt9qvP9hXalGr2 by raphaelmorgan@mastodon.lol
2022-09-12T23:24:59Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@changeling @AlienSkyler @apophis @dhfir @alexispurslane @rolenthedeep *raises hand* I have special interests that aren't people but uh I would die without interpersonal communication (hence I Post)
(DIR) Post #ANVGztaRKYQGs3CVIO by dhfir@expired.mentality.rip
2022-09-12T23:27:35.411666Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@raphaelmorgan @changeling @AlienSkyler @apophis @alexispurslane @rolenthedeep yeah same tbh.but apparently that's a thing.
(DIR) Post #ANWppLQZAbZPaNFMA4 by bugbear@tech.lgbt
2022-09-13T11:00:16Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@kino @alexispurslane here's an idea though: listen to autistic people instead of trying to "cure" them when there's nothing wrong with them.
(DIR) Post #ANWppM3CqwTjWDKDOC by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-09-13T17:32:31.995Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@bugbear@tech.lgbt My sister specializes in behavioral therapy and her job is working with severely autistic children who probably won't ever get to a point where they can take care of themselves let alone have a job or live on their own. There's no attempts therein to "cure" them, there is no "curing" autism. But in re to OP and CRISPR, while I'm personally against artificial genetic modificatio, if there was a way to code out things like autism, I wouldn't be trying to stop it. 🤷 @alexispurslane@mastodon.lol
(DIR) Post #ANWzxslu52KsrJw9Am by bugbear@tech.lgbt
2022-09-13T19:24:06Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@kino @alexispurslane 1) "severely"? 2) so you just wanna erase people from this world, cool /s
(DIR) Post #ANWzxtPFijoMpMLZVQ by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-09-13T19:26:10.668Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@bugbear@tech.lgbt lol shut up @alexispurslane@mastodon.lol
(DIR) Post #ANX3QHoKsVkWUIJHzk by bugbear@tech.lgbt
2022-09-13T19:55:13Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@kino @alexispurslane you're literally talking about getting rid of neurodivergency but you tell me to shut up, wow.
(DIR) Post #ANX3QIEvHf15okkWR6 by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-09-13T20:04:54.908Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@bugbear@tech.lgbt 🤫 @alexispurslane@mastodon.lol