Post AMsHPSNSwp8fgDsi92 by bruno@social.anoxinon.de
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(DIR) Post #AMqvmZbLrZYaaz2B2O by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T12:21:22Z
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Casual observation at the supermarket:People with families have photos of their kids, as the background on their mobile 'phones. People with partners have photos of their loved ones. People without either of those have photos of their dogs or cats.I use a photo of #Gruoch on my mobile.
(DIR) Post #AMqw5Hdwr4syOxAd8K by Owlor@meow.social
2022-08-24T12:24:44Z
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@fitheach My background is a picture of Twilight Sparkle, you decide which category that falls into XD
(DIR) Post #AMqwHFmRbiZ66AqtOK by Bella@krefeld.life
2022-08-24T12:26:56Z
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@fitheach I have the North Sea as the background on my mobile phone. What does that tell me about me then?! 🤔
(DIR) Post #AMqwMLqGUvNoLX4PDc by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T12:27:53Z
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@Owlor Probably the "pet" category.
(DIR) Post #AMqwgVkTNJTgrXyQjY by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T12:31:29Z
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@Bella You love both your partner and your cat, and you can't decide between them.
(DIR) Post #AMqxKcUrhjj1NKnaBk by tfb@functional.cafe
2022-08-24T12:38:43Z
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@fitheach My child insisted I change the background picture to the attached
(DIR) Post #AMqxZ0rjtk270aMRgO by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T12:41:21Z
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@tfb Nice. What was the photo previously?
(DIR) Post #AMqxZT94ksXOiSggam by yngmar@social.tchncs.de
2022-08-24T12:41:26Z
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@fitheach I've got a photo of a sunset at sea I took somewhere. I haven't updated it since I got the phone, which means it's a good background.Partner is usually nearby, so don't need a picture, can just look at her.
(DIR) Post #AMqxbxFnmdQEfv1ESO by tfb@functional.cafe
2022-08-24T12:41:53Z
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@fitheach Her and her brother on the beach 😹
(DIR) Post #AMqxkB1wRlMticSMeu by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T12:43:23Z
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@tfb See, what did I tell you. 😉
(DIR) Post #AMqxnB6IdrN8nzvTH6 by Bella@krefeld.life
2022-08-24T12:43:55Z
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@fitheach Could be 😊 (The real reason is that I am very keen on data privacy which includes pictures on my phone. That's why I have hardly any photos on my phone at all)
(DIR) Post #AMqxoXfeDDYh5x6t28 by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T12:44:11Z
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@yngmar Yes, but, if you go shopping alone can you still remember what she looks like?
(DIR) Post #AMqy4fxz8WPRSPNeS0 by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T12:47:05Z
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@Bella I have hundreds of photos of friends etc. on my mobile. My 'phone is secure enough (I think).
(DIR) Post #AMqyQdmNwsPJ2qQcSm by yngmar@social.tchncs.de
2022-08-24T12:51:03Z
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@fitheach Yeah, cause I'll have Signal open asking her if she wants flour or something :awesome:Also, old-school guy that I am, I have an actual photo in my wallet.
(DIR) Post #AMqyZ7PBgUOJFDcWKe by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T12:52:36Z
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@dch Your partner and family should be asking questions. 😃
(DIR) Post #AMqyfBH2DLHYyohJpI by Bella@krefeld.life
2022-08-24T12:53:40Z
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@fitheach I am always totally amazed at the number of photos people have on their phones. I have never had more than ~200 on it (incl. screenshots) and that was while being on vacation, when I couldn't transfer photos to my PC or external harddrive.
(DIR) Post #AMqylCE5aNYXfhBjWK by Jkp@mastodon.scot
2022-08-24T12:54:35Z
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@fitheach You've seen mine before!
(DIR) Post #AMqyqLibimVoYiv6sS by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T12:55:43Z
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@yngmar Men 'phoning the "boss" when they are at the supermarket is such a common thing.What is a wallet?
(DIR) Post #AMqz1rRc6bAI8mScW8 by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T12:57:47Z
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@Bella [checks]1,987 photos on my 'phone.
(DIR) Post #AMqz4qZ7pU66HeOjPU by potato_lisper@mk.nixnet.social
2022-08-24T12:52:01.911Z
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@fitheach@mstdn.io I have family and a cat, but on phone I have picture of nebula taken by James Webb telescope
(DIR) Post #AMqz4qziEdMfc6pxqq by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T12:58:19Z
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@potato_lisper The exception that proves the rule.
(DIR) Post #AMqz9vsrU23IE53RPE by Bella@krefeld.life
2022-08-24T12:59:14Z
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@fitheach 86 on mine 😂
(DIR) Post #AMqzBWwVBYmvS2WFKC by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T12:59:33Z
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@Jkp What's wrong, do you not love your family? 😉
(DIR) Post #AMqzIqGhjN73PsSHCq by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T13:00:52Z
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@Bella As long as they are good ones.
(DIR) Post #AMqzTbeWPdU5GtjDQu by yngmar@social.tchncs.de
2022-08-24T13:02:47Z
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@fitheach It's not a boss thing, it's just we usually do the shopping together and each remembers about half of the shopping list.Wallets are a place for keeping little colourful bits of paper you can exchange for food when the plastic cards aren't working or accepted, which in our cause is often.And coins for paying the farmer's Ape (a three wheeled mini-truck by Piaggio) that sells the freshest stuff. He laughs at plastic cards and doesn't like notes.And photo of partner.
(DIR) Post #AMqzXLM6wibjsytmwi by yngmar@social.tchncs.de
2022-08-24T13:03:25Z
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@fitheach @Jkp Maybe Pink Floyd is his family.
(DIR) Post #AMqzrnhvFDThbor6zA by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T13:07:10Z
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I was able to make the observation because so many people are waving their 'phones about when making payments at the checkout.More people use their 'phones to make payments than use credit/debit cards. Presumably, most people will be using Google or Apple Pay. I don't understand the advantage of using those services.
(DIR) Post #AMr0FjNL0CmN7idcvo by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T13:11:29Z
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@yngmar I do have a wee metal wallet that contains my credit cards, and my business card. This and any cash, notes and coins, go into my messenger bag.I usually pay for my supermarket messages using cash.
(DIR) Post #AMr0aFVTFV5KZIE5Cq by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T13:15:12Z
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@yngmar Appropriate enough:https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2qmpdd@Jkp
(DIR) Post #AMr0tJHrPwWPnMwu5w by potato_lisper@mk.nixnet.social
2022-08-24T13:13:34.796Z
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@fitheach@mstdn.io From user perspective? One less thing to carry (just phone) and added security with randomly generated card number. From Apple/Google the obvious one - filling in the hole in data collection. Not only they no when and where you went, but also how much you spent there
(DIR) Post #AMr0tJiRp5mz7pO8XI by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T13:18:39Z
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@potato_lisper The battery on a credit card never goes flat.One of the, many, reasons I won't use Google/Apple are the privacy concerns.
(DIR) Post #AMr1QCJSMuKvimNTAO by ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org
2022-08-24T13:24:37Z
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@fitheach @potato_lisper Well, it is slightly more secure than just using your credit card. But only slightly. NFC consumes very little battery, so it can be used even if your phone is almost out of juice.And NFC has its own set of security issues...I have used it in NYC to pay for subway fares, simply because it is a hundred times better than using the MTA vending machines.But I always activate/deactivate NFC every time I go through the turnstile.
(DIR) Post #AMr1RVDZZ6l6dzFPk0 by dajbelshaw@fosstodon.org
2022-08-24T13:24:50Z
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@fitheach @potato_lisper Your choice. I use Garmin Pay via my watch (which I always keep with me and charged). My credit card is in the back casing of my phone as a backup.
(DIR) Post #AMr1likswYusQ9TD7o by Jkp@mastodon.scot
2022-08-24T13:28:19Z
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@fitheach Because more people forget their wallets than ever forget their phone!The phone is a vital part of survival the wallet/purse? Meh! 🤷♂️
(DIR) Post #AMr1nYPYNDacv0Mmhc by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T13:28:50Z
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@ParadeGrotesque @potato_lisper I mostly use cash for my supermarket shopping. I never use contactless payments. When using my credit card I enter the PIN. Other than cash, I consider this the most secure method of payment.
(DIR) Post #AMr1yFzdBxOKytLSU4 by penguin42@mastodon.org.uk
2022-08-24T13:30:45Z
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@ParadeGrotesque @fitheach @potato_lisper What makes you say it's more secure than a credit card?
(DIR) Post #AMr22aaQZG4A0ccd2u by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T13:31:28Z
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@Jkp My 'phone, wallet and cash all live inside my messenger bag.
(DIR) Post #AMr2F6B4wEsJSijLGq by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T13:33:48Z
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@dajbelshaw People often compliment me on my stylish "Garmin" watch, even though it cost £10.87, incl.delivery, from Ebay.@potato_lisper
(DIR) Post #AMr3Evzcu9oHpSrKiG by ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org
2022-08-24T13:44:58Z
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@penguin42 @fitheach @potato_lisper Apple pay and Google pay generate a temporary token and transmit it through NFC to the point of sale.No ID information is transmitted, including the credit card number, except for the ID of the bank The token is sent to the card issuer, matched to the valid card number and the transaction is approved or declined.At least, that's the way it was explained to me when I worked in that field about a year ago.
(DIR) Post #AMr3Mdn4Stmngwf3VQ by trebach@mstdn.social
2022-08-24T13:46:10Z
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@fitheach My background is just black. What does that say?
(DIR) Post #AMr3RbXoFAaQAntDTk by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T13:47:16Z
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@trebach New 'phone.
(DIR) Post #AMr77wLZaddkiU2qOG by Wizardofosmium@mastodon.scot
2022-08-24T14:28:20Z
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@fitheach I have kids and a dog. My current background is what came with the phone. My last phone's background was a close up of a slate tile from my bathroom floor.What does that say about me?
(DIR) Post #AMr79ycc6S8cLozERc by Bella@krefeld.life
2022-08-24T14:28:53Z
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@fitheach Nature, Fred, husband and tomcat. So yes 😃
(DIR) Post #AMrE2H6aCKM12SHMYq by suetanvil@mastodon.technology
2022-08-24T15:45:54Z
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@fitheach I use one of @benoitmandelbot 's images. Because GrapheneOS's default background is solid black and that's kind of bleak. But up until then, it was whatever default came with the phone because a) it was usually pretty nice and b) I kind of resent smartphones for displacing real computers.
(DIR) Post #AMrLf4e79bRpN0PXzU by bruno@social.anoxinon.de
2022-08-24T17:11:23Z
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@fitheach Ok, I have family, I have a partner, I have dogs...So, my phone background is... Edinburgh by night! What else!?But I had a long time, and will have again, pictures of my dogs as background. But I will never ever have any family pictures on a public space like a phone background!
(DIR) Post #AMrav4AICzaLp9XuRk by edavies@mastodon.scot
2022-08-24T20:02:12Z
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@fitheach How does you not using contactless make things more secure unless you've had contactless disabled? If anything, typing your PIN into some random keyboard some minimum-wage worker's just pushed in your direction seems less secure than contactless.@ParadeGrotesque @potato_lisper
(DIR) Post #AMrb5t1dxuMaSdeyci by gemlog@tilde.zone
2022-08-24T20:04:18Z
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@fitheach Interestin. I mostly see people using cards - often with pins, not tap.
(DIR) Post #AMrn6CGnc7E5b2fBYW by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T22:18:49Z
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@ParadeGrotesque So, how does the card issuer match the token to the correct credit card/account?@penguin42 @potato_lisper
(DIR) Post #AMro1apYyD8SHCIBiS by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T22:29:12Z
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@Wizardofosmium Photo taken when you dropped the 'phone on the bathroom floor.
(DIR) Post #AMroAcBXItrN5Ds84e by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T22:30:50Z
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@suetanvil 'Phones have become real computers, haven't they?@benoitmandelbot
(DIR) Post #AMrp90IkliFhFo2l7Y by ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org
2022-08-24T22:41:44Z
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@fitheach That's the deep magic. From what I understood, but I am probably wrong, the token is generated with a one-way hash, which uses as input the (UTC) date & time of day, the ID of the phone (which they get when you register the phone) + the card number itself. A little bit like Google Authenticator, the token is generated every x minutes, on both the phone and the bank's system. If a token match, then the card number and the card owner information are pulled out.
(DIR) Post #AMrpGVWJ64OA6UxeIy by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T22:43:05Z
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@bruno Is that because people like me can see your 'phone background?
(DIR) Post #AMrpSFr3ANXuzeGUi0 by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T22:45:13Z
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@gemlog I am one of the few who still uses the PIN number for my card transactions.The big change came with the increase to £100 for contactless payments.
(DIR) Post #AMrqEKf4b8DvnkaWPI by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T22:53:55Z
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@ParadeGrotesque The merchant info and transaction amounts must be in the mix, too.So, Google/Apple (the apps) do get to see a whole lot of data.
(DIR) Post #AMrqOr6apLdzJuThp2 by ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org
2022-08-24T22:55:49Z
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@fitheach Yes, the merchant info and transaction amounts are transmitted, but they are added to the token generated by the phone by the point of sale.And, yes, the phone apps and phone makers get a lot of info, especially if combined with geolocalisation.
(DIR) Post #AMrqh0acIt7DwoB4JE by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-08-24T22:59:06Z
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@ParadeGrotesque Thanks for that. I'd never investigated how the payment apps worked on 'phones. I now feel that I've benefited from a crash course.
(DIR) Post #AMrsfe3YnOpxgHC2U4 by ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org
2022-08-24T23:21:16Z
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@fitheach Again, take everything I wrote with a grain of salt!That was a bad summary of my own crash course, that was done badly by a person who did not care to explain too much... A specialist would probably laugh at me if I repeated this poor explanation... 🤓
(DIR) Post #AMruOTXKr2vQ2X3ptg by gemlog@tilde.zone
2022-08-24T23:40:13Z
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@fitheach Here it is less: 100 canadian dollars.
(DIR) Post #AMrwdZeGc4hRFOd90q by suetanvil@mastodon.technology
2022-08-25T00:05:13Z
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@fitheach @benoitmandelbot In terms of processing ability? Sure.In terms of making it easy to use the full power of the device? lol no.
(DIR) Post #AMsHPSNSwp8fgDsi92 by bruno@social.anoxinon.de
2022-08-25T03:58:28Z
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@fitheach No, because I'm using my phone sometimes at the supermarket checkout. 😜 And at other public places.... 😉
(DIR) Post #AMsZxr0DhHbx4eYlns by Wizardofosmium@mastodon.scot
2022-08-25T07:26:11Z
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@fitheachNo, there was an interesting pattern in the slate. I don't have the picture or the slate anymore.