Post AMnZZcSf8cffEcVYrw by hazlin@shortstackran.ch
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(DIR) Post #AMnUQ9t3VXoIEhWSbg by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
2022-08-22T20:30:41.157667Z
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(DIR) Post #AMnV0pjnNxZeSUgAsq by teknomunk@pl.polaris-1.work
2022-08-22T20:36:47.067403Z
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@mangeurdenuage 1. Designed by intellectuals throwing out tradition and ideals of beauty, likely not to last evdn a hundred years, 1975.2. Designed and built by skilled tradesmen with traditions going back hundreds of years, then maintained for hundreds of years, 1500.
(DIR) Post #AMnVBUsVHUIIwupxj6 by Xeraser@poa.st
2022-08-22T20:39:16.830501Z
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@mangeurdenuage avant-garde anything awakens some kind of primal rage in me
(DIR) Post #AMnVM7wAulnUz8chRQ by EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st
2022-08-22T20:41:12.099441Z
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@Xeraser @mangeurdenuage Maybe is the italian sense of arquitectural beauty.Do u not think that hadrian would have doubled down on really erradicating jews if he had seen what “arquitecture” the jews puke out?
(DIR) Post #AMnVWdtYx17AzqPotE by Xeraser@poa.st
2022-08-22T20:43:06.138140Z
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@EdBoatConnoisseur @mangeurdenuage it's avant-garde architecture, avant-garde design, avant-garde cuisine, etc etcmakes me want to grab 'em and slap them while screaming "CAN'T YOU JUST DO THINGS NORMALLY GOD FUCKING DAMNIT YOU FUCKING FAGGOT BE NORMAL FOR ONCE"
(DIR) Post #AMnVbWo2jdjkSTABqy by rlier23@bae.st
2022-08-22T20:43:58.882140Z
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@Xeraser @EdBoatConnoisseur @mangeurdenuage hispters have always been a plague, no matter the period
(DIR) Post #AMnVhLr2MldEEILB8i by CoQ_10@poa.st
2022-08-22T20:45:02.214826Z
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@teknomunk @mangeurdenuage Same energy:
(DIR) Post #AMnVt1NeJWJQCo9vqi by EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st
2022-08-22T20:47:08.206582Z
3 likes, 1 repeats
@Xeraser @mangeurdenuage You call it avant-garde, i call it judeian, but they are the same subversibe trash.
(DIR) Post #AMnW5ss1GXAXZnUwL2 by Xeraser@poa.st
2022-08-22T20:49:28.379094Z
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@rlier23 @EdBoatConnoisseur @mangeurdenuage experimentation for its own sake is something i hate so fucking much you have no ideaeven more so when people get worshipped for it and/or they think they're suddenly some kind of authority or somethingbash. their. skulls. in. with. a. cast. iron. pan. god. fucking. damnit. be. normal.
(DIR) Post #AMnWYyfInctxwlQFyS by rlier23@bae.st
2022-08-22T20:54:43.957627Z
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@Xeraser @EdBoatConnoisseur @mangeurdenuage there is a space for experimentation for sure, but speding materials time and money to create such monstruosity is a fucking sin, this shit should've stayed as a scaled down model instead of a real building
(DIR) Post #AMnZZVKFfUmf6VWFHs by nachtrabe@bae.st
2022-08-22T21:23:45.040990Z
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@rlier23 @Xeraser @EdBoatConnoisseur @mangeurdenuage If this shit, that started int the 70s stayed there, i would unironically defend it.But we've been repeating these experiments for 50 fucking years.No reproduction crisis there.Results are consistent.It sucks, let's just stop.
(DIR) Post #AMnZZcSf8cffEcVYrw by hazlin@shortstackran.ch
2022-08-22T21:28:26.076920Z
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@nachtrabe @rlier23 @EdBoatConnoisseur @Xeraser @mangeurdenuage You know, when I look at modern buildings, the most troubling thing, is they are not built to last. That stone building will last, until a bulldozer comes and knocks it down.Will cities start to fall apart because, corners are cut more and more? Will they look similar in 50 years? I doubt it!
(DIR) Post #AMnaVqjUEf7yIC8yHo by nachtrabe@bae.st
2022-08-22T21:36:50.484936Z
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@hazlin @rlier23 @EdBoatConnoisseur @Xeraser @mangeurdenuage I don't even buy the cost argument in many cases.Sure, there are commie blocks, be they built by actual communists nor not, that *might* look this depressing because of their utilitarian nature.But there are also countless examples of representational buildings that also all look like a fortress for the bad guys from robocop.There is no way these giant glass facades are cost effective in anything: construction, maintainence, cleaning, heating.
(DIR) Post #AMnaa1t0hzdg2jajaa by teknomunk@pl.polaris-1.work
2022-08-22T21:39:09.100724Z
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@hazlin @nachtrabe @rlier23 @EdBoatConnoisseur @Xeraser @mangeurdenuage Anything that uses reinforced concrete in tension has a finite lifespan. The rebar will rust and eventually will fall. Only questions are how long until then and is it a controlled demolition.Well-designed unreinforced structures in compression will outlast them by far.
(DIR) Post #AMnai4EVrok3ddTwFE by EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st
2022-08-22T21:41:11.569876Z
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@teknomunk @hazlin @nachtrabe @rlier23 @Xeraser @mangeurdenuage nothing with rebar will ever reach even a fraction of the lifespan of the colosseum or the pantheon.
(DIR) Post #AMnavN9kp28U5mbHrk by hazlin@shortstackran.ch
2022-08-22T21:43:35.982904Z
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@EdBoatConnoisseur @nachtrabe @rlier23 @teknomunk @Xeraser @mangeurdenuage This was the exact thing I was thinking about. A post apocalyptic modern city... is a green field xD And, even then the Colosseum and Parthenon will be standing
(DIR) Post #AMnb8vQSiic88qsUWu by teknomunk@pl.polaris-1.work
2022-08-22T21:45:19.526411Z
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@EdBoatConnoisseur @nachtrabe @rlier23 @Xeraser @mangeurdenuage @hazlin Yes. As rebar rusts, and if you have rebar in contact with concrete, it will rust, it expands causing stresses that will break the concrete.Concrete without rebar will not have this problem, but it requires more labor intensive construction techniques for the required arches, which means it is more expensive.
(DIR) Post #AMnbfzvB1lFzdl0y12 by EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st
2022-08-22T21:52:00.781483Z
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@hazlin @nachtrabe @rlier23 @teknomunk @Xeraser @mangeurdenuage I meant the pantheon built by hadrian, agrippa’s pantheon, not the parthenon, the parthenon was made from marble, hadrian made the pantheon from concrete with marble pillars on the outside and colorful floor and walls of marble from all over the mediterranean on the inside.
(DIR) Post #AMnc1yIfjdKMz2TxjM by Bro-Drillard@poa.st
2022-08-22T21:55:59.670012Z
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@rlier23 @Xeraser @EdBoatConnoisseur @mangeurdenuage But, but, but it needed to be three times bigger.
(DIR) Post #AMncKskWb3zNGoWkrI by EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st
2022-08-22T21:59:24.755303Z
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@hazlin @nachtrabe @rlier23 @teknomunk @Xeraser @mangeurdenuage The massive dome of the pantheon is pure concrete, supported by walls of brick and concrete, unlike most moder dome buildings the inside of the pantheon can perfectly contain a sphere of the same radius as it’s dome.
(DIR) Post #AMnd9O2AYVUKmDrYYK by teknomunk@pl.polaris-1.work
2022-08-22T22:07:57.160805Z
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@EdBoatConnoisseur @nachtrabe @rlier23 @Xeraser @mangeurdenuage @hazlinIt is a beautiful building, and one that will last provided it recieves a minimum of maintenancr and doesn't get hit by a bomb or bulldozed.Arched buildings are very beautiful and I wish there were more being built. The curves are visually pleasing and with a good foundation are structurally sound for hundreds or thousands of years. But...Their construction can't be accelerated much by mechanization. You need lots of skilled laborers familiar with brick or stone. They take longer to construct, so labor costs are higher. Material costs are also higher.And that doesn't work for a people with the desire to build it as fast and cheaply as possible, saddle someone with a loan for a building that is barely not falling apart the minute it is finished and run off with the loot before they wise up.
(DIR) Post #AMndRkd3HrAe49s52G by EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st
2022-08-22T22:11:51.536927Z
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@hazlin @nachtrabe @rlier23 @teknomunk @Xeraser @mangeurdenuage For hadrian considered the pantheon his magnum opus, the most sublime the temple to all the gods, a perfect combination of the elegance of the marble temples of old with the most new that ccould only be built after the romans mastered the art and science of creating their own liquid stone, the entrance to the pantheon was closed by 2 massive bronze doors, and at noon on the 21th of april the date of the foundation of rome hadrian would pass through the gates of the pantheon engulfed by the light of sol stablishing the divine existance of the roman emperor.
(DIR) Post #AMndfU0Xsec2ZSPMIq by evabraunblackface@poa.st
2022-08-22T22:14:20.394630Z
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@EdBoatConnoisseur @hazlin @nachtrabe @rlier23 @teknomunk @Xeraser @mangeurdenuage Everything that holds beauty and is sacred is Pagan.Western Rome was Pagan.Every single thing of significance Western Rome accomplished was Pagan Πάνθειον Pantheion, "[temple] dedicated to all the Aryan Gods"Pan, meaning all or many. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheon,_Romeel.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CF%80%CE%AC%CE%BD%CE%B8%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%BF%CF%82
(DIR) Post #AMne9geJRcjSStPYBc by EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st
2022-08-22T22:19:47.981766Z
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@teknomunk @nachtrabe @rlier23 @Xeraser @mangeurdenuage @hazlin oh yes, the pantheon required massive amounts of skilled labour, all the bricks are consistent, every carving and every chisel strike was perfect, the lines of the casted concrete are sharp and clean, every part is reinforced, every load was accounted for, balanced and distributed, even the dome itself was casted in phases using lighter agregate the closer to the top it gets to the point that the last third of the dome used pumice as aggregate to make it as light as possible without compromising the durability or strenght.
(DIR) Post #AMneNNbr1wE7T7n4j2 by nachtrabe@bae.st
2022-08-22T22:17:44.488357Z
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@teknomunk @rlier23 @EdBoatConnoisseur @Xeraser @mangeurdenuage @hazlin Are sure?We build arched bridges in concrete all the time.We just don't use them in buildings anymore because ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(DIR) Post #AMneNO9szPRtAfiFlo by EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st
2022-08-22T22:22:16.174286Z
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@nachtrabe @teknomunk @rlier23 @Xeraser @mangeurdenuage @hazlin Have you seen how long the arched bridges last tho? not to mention they all have the rebar skeleton so that the concrete can be poured without much care to the design putting tension and torsion on said concrete.
(DIR) Post #AMnfDuxQHxjRxBvn1s by nachtrabe@bae.st
2022-08-22T22:26:33.660503Z
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@EdBoatConnoisseur @rlier23 @teknomunk @Xeraser @mangeurdenuage @hazlin > Have you seen how long the arched bridges last tho?i have nothow long?
(DIR) Post #AMnfDvcXp4cq0jAd7o by EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st
2022-08-22T22:31:45.761127Z
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@nachtrabe @rlier23 @teknomunk @Xeraser @mangeurdenuage @hazlin Some have managed really miserable lifespans…
(DIR) Post #AMnhA4nlwgfjEeiHJ2 by teknomunk@pl.polaris-1.work
2022-08-22T22:52:54.929480Z
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@EdBoatConnoisseur @nachtrabe @rlier23 @Xeraser @mangeurdenuage @hazlin That doesn't surprise me it collapsed.
(DIR) Post #AMnis6qvmVM2IAkcvg by nachtrabe@bae.st
2022-08-22T22:24:17.464745Z
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@EdBoatConnoisseur @rlier23 @teknomunk @Xeraser @mangeurdenuage @hazlin I fully believe you guys that the pantheon was expensive to build XDWhat this thread started out with was people asking > Why can't we have just one building once in a while that doesn't look like someone poured concrete into ikea furniture and then set that shit on fire?