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 (DIR) Post #AMXTv4hsH7Yk4xCAlc by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T03:09:42Z
       
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       Brief thread"Next is orientation to authority. Nothing I have to explain to those of you sitting before me today. Follow the chain of command without exception. Submit yourselves, as the saying goes, to the authorities that have been placed above you. Trust your superiors, trust your orders, and you’ll serve and lead well."Mike Pence
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXU70kGpTAfGg0XEu by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T03:11:51Z
       
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       "You will notice that military service members swear an oath to follow the orders of the President - not the Executive Office. They swear to uphold the constitution of the United States, and they swear to defend their country against all enemies - foreign and domestic."https://17sog.substack.com/p/the-47-ronin
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXUQRBWkeMyls1Isi by Kat@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T03:15:15Z
       
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       @Andre so does this particular installment remind anyone else of @ArnGrimR’s writing?? Are they supposed to be anonymous writers?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXUVM3FGVyEIVUUoi by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T03:16:15Z
       
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       17SOG (perhaps we should start a #17SOG ?) has postulated the role/character of the President/King, with powers arrogated to the President and his Mandarins that the Framers never intended the Executive to possess.17SOG and others have pointed out that such an imperial presidency would put the military in a terrible bind. Do they obey their President or judge that they cannot because he is the Enemy of the Constitution?That such a question would divide the military is inescapable.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXUt5J3AtehJVCOB6 by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T03:20:32Z
       
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       We have come up with a lot of ideas about the 'how' of winning this war. Devolution. Governments in exile. Etc.What if all it took was for Trump to make a clear distinction about the Chain of Command such that the military would operate to fulfil its duties?What if all it took was for the military to be shown the stuff we cannot. The classified stuff.They could get to work.Then would come the timing of the counterassault. We are seeing this now wth TtV, et al.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXV0zGrUv3QubwYnQ by akelm88@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T03:21:57Z
       
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       @Andre Basically this is what was on my mind.  What if we are overthinking it.  I'm prone to do that.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXV6yfqd8TynXUFkW by akelm88@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T03:23:03Z
       
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       @Andre A president who did his job.  Good insight.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXVD71GVzP6Q0QitE by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T03:24:09Z
       
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       A legal clarification of status, duty, etc. I do not know how this will fit into various theories out there, but redefining the concept of the Presidency could well remove some of the contradictions that we wrestle with.I look forward more instalments from 17SOG and to letting these ideas roll around in my head a bit.MAGAMEGAWe caught them all.END
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXVgDQpkjlGhiGcCW by Lori@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T03:29:25Z
       
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       @AndreSounds like a job for a PEAD?An elusive PEAD that wasn't at MAL?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXW61Pl3Vaoxi4Ley by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T03:34:05Z
       
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       @Lori I do not guess the mechanism, but fundamentally what I am getting from #17SOG is that Trump ascended to a throne not of his making and not of the design found in the Constitution.From that throne, he set in motion a plan to destroy it and replace it, 'Reconstitute' it, with a new Constitutional office and President.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXWEBj4bLhRG8zv16 by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T03:35:34Z
       
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       @Andre Awesome summary!“Next is orientation to authority. Nothing I have to explain to those of you sitting before me today. Follow the chain of command without exception. Submit yourselves, as the saying goes, to the authorities that have been placed above you. Trust your superiors, trust your orders, and you’ll serve and lead well."And I’ve also seen a video of Pence exhorting the troops at DC to “follow the chain of command”.This must be post January 6, 2021.Continued.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXWaFj2PcVs2BVCt6 by Lori@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T03:39:32Z
       
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       @AndreHe used what he had. That would be something that the other side would want & can't change if they don't know what it is. Seems like the perfect spot to put what they want - right in front of them.Probably just one of many.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXWoJYCzDyfx78s4W by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T03:42:05Z
       
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       @Andre The 17th SOG doesn’t mention that the Constitutional CIC role is being changed.That has to be correct.Towards the end they state that Bidet is “fully the President of the United States and fully the Commander in Chief”.Then they state that “[Bidet] stole an office that doesn’t want him ….”.Which “office” do they mean?Didn’t Trump establish his own office of the 45th President?Is that an example to us as to how the office should be run?Continued.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXWseHrpZk1QKZ7Ro by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T03:42:52Z
       
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       @Andre I await with interest how the 17th SOG reconciles the Constitutional CIC aspect with the military following of the chain of command - which on its face leads back to Bidet.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXj30ACY5WbcMgOno by Kat@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T05:59:13Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Andre  I’m a bit lost about this. Did they make a parallel President seat with the COG that’s been in place all these years? How and what does it mean?. I want to understand before more posts are made so I can follow.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXkCuJvEEAMLTW6sa by Mongo3804@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T06:12:11Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Andre I thoroughly enjoyed both of y'all's threads 👍
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXplR88FS4FihHoeW by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T07:14:27Z
       
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       @Kat Thank you for the very good questions which I will try to answer.@Andre please jump in if correction is needed or if you have anything to add.I understood 17th SOG to draw a distinction between Potus as CIC and the office known as the EOP.First, they noted that the CIC role is constitutional. While constitutional, 17th SOG have concerns that past Presidents have sought to arrogate more war powers to themselves culminating in GWB’s post 9/11 actions.That is interesting in itself once …
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXqILriqKfSwqJ1w8 by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T07:20:25Z
       
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       @Kat @Andre … we consider how suspect 9/11 has become. Almost like an excuse to justify enlargement of the executive branch - i.e. Potus’ powers.I’m now thinking of Trump’s statement where he said that he has powers people don’t know about. Cue screeching, wailing and gnashing of teeth.But I am digressing.17th SOG then go on to point out that quite apart from the constitutional Potus as CIC role, the Executive Office of the President (EOP) was created in 1939…..
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXqpjyiDIDVHxUqDg by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T07:26:26Z
       
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       @Kat @Andre …. and there is no constitutional basis for the EOP. Meaning that the constitution does not mention the EOP but it they say was created by an Act of Congress.17th SOG document the relentless growth of the EOP and say it’s “the primary tool used to expand the scope and power of the executive branch”.This is where the 17th SOG make the statement which I think addresses your question - “The EOP is also referred to as a ‘permanent government’.”The also call it …..
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXrIKMOXW3IEYCm9I by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T07:31:37Z
       
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       @Kat @Andre … a “permanent shadow government” and assert this is the Deep State.“Permanent” in my view also means “Continuing” or “Continuity”.So in other words it’s the Deep State that is the shadow government that is “continuing”.Are they correct?Well I’m thinking of General Flynn’s interview with Tucker Carlson some months ago and I think Flynn’s words would support this view.I’m also thinking of Lindsay Graham’s words in December 2020 that Trump is running a shadow government…..
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXrca4Pq7xokVS9VA by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T07:35:16Z
       
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       @Kat @Andre I’m far more likely to accept Flynn’s view over Graham’s.Do see if you can find that interview.If I find it I will post a link here as an addendum.It’s an illuminating interview and I think Obama gets a mention.Hope I answered your question.I think what I’ve outlined will also help explain the first three of the 17th SOG’s seven (7) “new discoveries” which they state at the end of the paper.End.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXsLKz2mJWUzRHXtY by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T07:43:21Z
       
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       @Kat @Andre Addendum:Well! YouTube has taken this link down.Are we over the target?https://youtu.be/3P_20VaFDB0Hang in there I have a little bit more to find.https://youtu.be/gSCLc91B6gMTaken down as well!Let’s go with my notes from October 2021 while I try to find another link.“Tucker Carlson on vaccination mandates then with General Flynn just before the 19 minute mark.”Continued.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXsRkzUzqN7O6YWrQ by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T07:44:32Z
       
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       @Kat @Andre Flynn “Speaks of the deep state, the military industrial complex that Eisenhower spoke of and the security state. Barrack gets a mention by the General and Tucker also - listen for it.”Hunting for another video link now.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXshBV6iRh5wyhGr2 by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T07:47:18Z
       
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       @Kat @Andre Ok, the applicable shows are:Tucker Carlson tonight October 11, 2021 (edited summary).Tucker Carlson today 10/11/2021 (Full Interview).
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXt1JWgaSUqdH29a4 by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T07:50:57Z
       
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       @Kat @Andre Here’s a link to the edited summary.19th minute mark onwards.https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x84ssbg
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXuOP8fz8CKeeNTeK by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T08:06:19Z
       
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       @Kat @Andre Sauce at the 23 minute mark.Two governments - one elected and one not elected.The unelected government (aka the Executive Office of the President??) controlled by Barrack Obama.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMXwuCA3yFW3a2JTJg by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T08:34:29Z
       
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       @Kat @Andre Full interview.It has to be Rumble.Suppressed every where else in whole or in part.https://rumble.com/vnnn1d-general-michael-flynns-interview-on-tucker-clarkson-today.html
       
 (DIR) Post #AMY0LcxAlZ1QM73WvQ by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T09:13:03Z
       
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       @Kat @johnglavine A lot of that remains to be described!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMY10NplstbJKw1niy by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T09:20:25Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Kat It appears that 9/11 was the funeral pyre for Constitutional Presidents and the catalyst for the creation of the President/King.It would be interesting indeed if a new understanding of 9/11 was a component of using that terrible day to destroy the perpetrators of that very crimeSomebody flicked a switch and on 9/12 there was a CoG in operation. This change in the nature of the Presidency opens up a lot of possibilities and raises a lot of possibilities.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMY1vR62QZEhxdqEdc by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T09:30:43Z
       
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       @Andre @Kat A lot of thinking.GWB had only just scraped in against Gore.Bush v Gore sealed it for him.Some of the most conservative Judges ruled for GWB including Rehnquist , Scalia and Thomas.Then 9/11 came and GWB’s popularity went sky high.Something seemed odd back then.I recall arguing that a war on terror was plain wrong. A crime had been committed (or so it seemed). If it was a crime, then law enforcement action was more appropriate.I wonder if 17th SOG will mention this.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMY2QxWrtRjLWhQFk0 by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T09:36:25Z
       
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       @Andre @Kat Elsewhere I’ve recently seen an old DJT clip where he questions (with supporting reasoning) how a large plane like the 767 could have taken down the towers.Given the way the towers were solidly constructed.9/11 will be significant I feel.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMY2WfYXd5PRWOvaUq by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T09:37:26Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Kat The towers were specifically designed to endure the impact of a modern airliner.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMY2oYF3Yvlu37LBaq by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T09:40:41Z
       
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       @Andre @Kat   So why did Lindsay Graham bother asking Kavanaugh what he was doing on 9/11?Just noting it down as an unanswered oddity.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMY3bUPEc2fALHR9gO by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T09:49:32Z
       
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       @Andre @Kat Continuing to think.GWB used his newly arrogated powers to implement a heightened security state (I agree with Flynn’s characterisation of the security state).GWB send troops into Iraq (strange call) and Afghanistan (why given the Soviet’s failure around 1980).One of Trump’s “last actions” was to withdraw from both countries.https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2021-01-15/trump-administration-confirms-withdrawals-from-iraq-afghanistan-days-before-inauguration
       
 (DIR) Post #AMY3i6kKyd9qzSSnUu by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T09:50:44Z
       
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       @Andre @Kat Unwinding the excesses and overreach of GWB and Obama.What odds Trump dismantles the security state as well?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMY4mNGdattfLFAbB2 by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T10:02:43Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Andre @Kat So, rather than instituting continuity of government, this entire op is about bringing it to an end. Yes?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMY50kBTBgBCTEbYK8 by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T10:05:18Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Andre @Kat So, rather than instituting continuity of government, this entire op is about bringing it to an end, and then reconstituting the Presidency on a properly constitutional basis. Yes? (Pardon the redundancy.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AMY5I0o6dUrOwuuW6C by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T10:08:26Z
       
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       @jmc464 @Andre @Kat It would seem so.Although I would value the thoughts of the FA citizens because this is a huge paradigm shift.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMY6FBcG5mRHYeaMW8 by DrFell@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T10:19:03Z
       
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       @johnglavine @jmc464 @Andre @Kat It falls in line with my previous thinking of COG, Devolution that if the operations are supervised by by the present, in place DS and corrupt government, gave reason to believe it wasn't happening as the way we wanted it to. The twist is, we don't want it in this capacity, this form is corrupt and must be eliminated. Not to say a better structure put in place later. much later.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMY6FyIR6GhKXMgivI by icare4america@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T10:19:14Z
       
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       @johnglavine @jmc464 @Andre @Kat We have had 46 Presidents... we will have 46 more at least.   Name the next 5 - Would be just Opinions, save for 47.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMY78RiPw92DProelU by DrFell@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T10:29:05Z
       
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       @johnglavineScalia was murdered, I swear by it  @Andre @Kat
       
 (DIR) Post #AMYCu5op9PYvAxLsH2 by StockliRacer@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T11:33:44Z
       
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       @Mongo3804 @johnglavine @Andre Some interesting speculation here.  I’m enjoying reading the opinions, thoughts and ideas, and more than ever, looking forward to the next installment of the 17th Special Operations Dispatch.  I’m guessing over time it will dispel a lot of the speculation, put to rest some of the theories out there, and expose the truth of what is happening.  I don’t know who they are, but they seem connected, knowledgeable and willing to share what they know.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMYckmDJIA8hRyGZO4 by Kat@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T16:23:18Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Andre Yes!! Thank you! Interested to see if Trump got it stopped enough so he was really POTUS and they tried to take it back with Obama. It’s kind of like what came first the chicken or the egg. If this than how does that?? Can’t wait to hear the answers.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMYdtONHOXRe4gbLkG by Kat@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T16:36:08Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Andre Is the Mil. Ind Complex  run by civilians and/or ex military? Are they from the companies that make the stuff of was and want contacts? Then they work with CIA and others to cause little wars around the world to fund them? Right?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMYe1rWetXtQno1kki by Kat@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T16:37:41Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Andre  but who controlled it before? How long has it been going on? Since9/2001? GWB? Who pulled the strings then. Mil. Complex?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMYeX9DbAFMQeU1vNo by Kat@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T16:43:16Z
       
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       @Andre @johnglavine my head is spinning with questions and I don’t even know how to frame most of them or can pin them down yet. Was it a crime of opportunity?? Or as some have hinted really set up by us? With help? Because of the situation an act of war, COG was put in place and when they figured out how to use it they just never put it back.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMYedNeuO6YpAxmBXc by Kat@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T16:44:25Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Andre  I thought he used it as an excuse to get bin Laden for his dad.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMYenulu879qll4UbY by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T16:46:22Z
       
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       @Kat It’s nearly 3 am and I need to sleep.I think you will find Ike’s speech where he refers to the “military industrial complex”interesting.Yeah it’s been going on for a very long time.Two links:https://youtu.be/Gg-jvHynP9Yhttps://youtu.be/OyBNmecVtdU@Andre
       
 (DIR) Post #AMYeu2ahyDzWl4kuuW by Kat@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T16:47:28Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Andre it may have been 20 years but people are going to lose their minds over this. Trump said the other day at the golf tournament backed by Saudi money that ‘No one has gotten to the bottom of 9/11 yet’. That raised a huge red flag for me!! He was POTUS and had access to all the information that wasn’t made public.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMYfE7gmj3bqMSAqjQ by Kat@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T16:51:04Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Andre 😮
       
 (DIR) Post #AMYfMCsTJpdwlmUl0K by Kat@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T16:52:33Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Andre make sense on multiple levels.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMYfWwsV93OOKjdBVw by Kat@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T16:54:30Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Andre now please explain that. What exactly is the security state. Man have the last years been a civics lesson or what?!!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMYfjrKr41Q0uL37mC by Kat@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T16:56:51Z
       
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       @jmc464 @johnglavine @Andre That’s what it sounds like. So the excellent theory put forth by one of our own seems to have it a dead end in that respect. Who would have thought?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMYg50ETBEHgaB92Ku by Kat@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T17:00:38Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Andre yikes! That was me the other night. Sweet dreams and thank you for the info.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZBDD580KTOO0Cmjw by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T22:49:30Z
       
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       @Kat @jmc464 @Andre Don’t write devolution off yet.There are too many official documents around for it to be an empty theory.Perhaps part of the effort as a form of deception.Perhaps a genuine part of the effort.Perhaps insufficient to comprise the whole effort.Good to be cautious either way.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZBumCdIiMZlRUPvk by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-15T22:57:22Z
       
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       @Kat @Andre “The Security State”I think the best answers are in Tucker’s interview with Flynn.I think 17th SOG allude to it when they name the many new departments that sprung up after 9/11.Like “Homeland Security”.Then Kiefer Sutherland just happened to come along and implant a whole lot of generational memories with 24.I jest only a little.I did like the show then, but ….
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZYv7IJBHFC7lH8r2 by Spartan_Altsoba_Patriot@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T03:15:09Z
       
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       @Andre exactly!!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZZHNACrMjdiG69om by biernutz_71@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T03:19:02Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Kat @Andre bingo
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZZJvX23CsGsnzcKe by Spartan_Altsoba_Patriot@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T03:19:39Z
       
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       @Andre CoG is how they stole We the Peoples constitutional rights! Remember, Trump is not a politician, he’s a man of Law, and he’s good, really good at using the law.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZZmzvoltPwvVRr96 by biernutz_71@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T03:24:53Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Kat @jmc464 @Andre what official documents? EOs?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZZoPQfSQmwINYDoG by Spartan_Altsoba_Patriot@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T03:25:10Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Andre CIC role is being restored…
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZa7bgQ7aSxnq4bZo by biernutz_71@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T03:28:37Z
       
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       @Andre WoW. Wonderfully stated
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZaDS6UeOPrpX3XTU by Spartan_Altsoba_Patriot@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T03:29:41Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Kat @Andre EOP = King presidency. An American Monarchy…
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZaO8J8alsZcS3z5k by Spartan_Altsoba_Patriot@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T03:31:37Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Kat @Andre exactly!! You guys are on fire!!!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZaadcQ0KnGCg2pF2 by Spartan_Altsoba_Patriot@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T03:33:52Z
       
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       @Andre @johnglavine @Kat Boom!! Exactly!!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZaj3wg0RA4AfXNI0 by Spartan_Altsoba_Patriot@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T03:35:23Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Andre @Kat yes!!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZanRCJUrh1RdwBmq by Spartan_Altsoba_Patriot@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T03:36:10Z
       
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       @jmc464 @johnglavine @Andre @Kat this!! Exactly!! When you look at it this way, you’ll see, everything fits like a glove and makes total sense!!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZbWZPrmr3ZxvnWN6 by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T03:44:17Z
       
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       @Andre And this is good too.https://17sog.substack.com/p/into-the-shadows?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email It puts better into words why I've said that "devolution" is a deep-state self-preservation mechanism...and that Trump would not have left office with the deep state holding the reigns.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZdZZ6zZiYHnZWd8a by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T04:07:16Z
       
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       @biernutz_71 @Kat @jmc464 @Andre I recall Patel unearthing and sharing a very professional looking coloured document with Trump’s signature on it and possibly the Presidential seal.Fairly sure it was in regards to Continuity of Government.I should carry my “Devolution” USB with me at all times lol 😂.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZdtsW18te5llutRA by biernutz_71@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T04:10:57Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Kat @jmc464 @Andre yup. I have that document. Turns out Obama had a plan for COG and so did W.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZi5SuyXSNnfjN4kK by 1031@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T04:57:51Z
       
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       @h53pilot @Andre I would curious to know @PatelPatriot's take on this article
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZidIBovsrGFENddg by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T05:03:56Z
       
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       @biernutz_71 @Kat @jmc464 @Andre Yes, the 17th SOG referred to it in their paper.It is the same document Patel found.The “Federal Mission Resilience Strategy 2020” document of December 2020.The month of issue is telling.This strategy document also refers to classified PPD 40 of 2016.I’m thinking now of how this ties into Trump’s process to reconstitute the Executive Office of the President as stated at the end of their first paper in the series.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZifZaVDZNgmc0qBc by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T05:04:23Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Kat @jmc464 I believe that the documents unearthed systematically by @PatelPatriot reveal a range of tools available to the President. And the PEADs, etc.I believe that there is a growing range of reasonably plausible means by which Trump could have taken action when confronted with the awful truth.I am DYING to know what he did! Really!But what gives me comfort is my confidence that he did SOMETHING.And ULTRAMAGA seems to be the way to support his efforts.Works for me.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZijneoqiVfZs2zI0 by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T05:05:09Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Kat  Kiefer Sutherland has always affected me like fingernails on a chalkboard.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZioD5AGInNadTNku by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T05:05:57Z
       
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       @Andre @Kat Please elaborate.Please please please. 🙏🙏🙏I need a good laugh.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZj6tkgM84L8jntEu by Spartan_Altsoba_Patriot@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T03:17:19Z
       
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       @Lori @Andre destroy the EOP and restore the CIC as constitutionally written…
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZj6uMc56PV2NYBMW by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T05:09:15Z
       
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       @Spartan_Altsoba_Patriot @Lori Yes!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZjCRmLGxnO7VE4aO by Spartan_Altsoba_Patriot@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T03:22:41Z
       
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       @Kat @Andre @ArnGrimR my guess is that the writers, most likely has many friends in the Devolution community. And in order to get their points out without being banned or just totally crushed, they remain anonymous. For now. My guess is that they won’t monetize either. There’s no use in getting paid for the truth. It always backfires. IMO
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZjCVJQ8R2P4xj23s by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T05:10:17Z
       
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       @Spartan_Altsoba_Patriot @Kat @ArnGrimR Sound discernment and wise advice.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZjDpPGuURPgr5rZA by Spartan_Altsoba_Patriot@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T03:23:49Z
       
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       @Lori @Andre didn’t Trump mention several times in numerous speeches that he was doing something big? And that we would be happy?? 🤔🤔
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZjDpup1Bg7Ghr3k8 by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T05:10:35Z
       
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       @Spartan_Altsoba_Patriot @Lori More than once!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZjqnxAFP64TbX2oq by biernutz_71@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T03:25:58Z
       
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       @Kat @Andre @johnglavine 17th SOG says it clearly, with states of emergency and then COG comes enormous powers to the executive branch.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZjqoO6dEeDpA8YoS by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T05:17:37Z
       
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       @biernutz_71 @Kat @johnglavineWith States of Emergency and CoG come absolute powers. Capricious powers. Imperial Powers.Having killed God (in their circles and in their minds), the 'left' has adopted entirely the globalist neofascist agenda, placing the State, the One World Government, as supreme being, owner of all individuals.Not exactly what the Framers had in mind.Whatever the quiver of powers Trump held, I believe that those powers were sufficient and that Trump & MAGA will WIN.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZjz7DcVFGQXmBxT6 by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T05:19:08Z
       
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       @Spartan_Altsoba_Patriot Welcome to our friendly community.I hope you have a great time here and receive much encouragement and support.@Andre @Kat
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZk4vQ9HRBvgsp2ye by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T05:20:10Z
       
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       @biernutz_71 Cheers, bro!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZmzDVdPlLrurMGQK by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T05:52:45Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Kat I cannot watch any production with him in it without ending up clenching my jaw and hating every second the his face insults the screen.This sprang forth organically and spontaneously the very first time I saw that pernicious scion of a much better actor.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZnIrJhdRWOsZ8vvU by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T05:56:19Z
       
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       @Andre @Kat Mission accomplished.I’ve had my laugh.I feel so much better now thanks to you!!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZo9klki3Hbv6U8O0 by Kat@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T06:05:51Z
       
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       @johnglavine @jmc464 @Andre I was thinking more the Continuity of Goveenment theory someone (JFANON? SLAG?) put forth. If it’s already been in place that would put that one off the table.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZqUSclZD6HdNHe0O by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T06:32:00Z
       
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       @KatWatch this space I think.Our friends at the 17th SOG appear to be preparing us systematically for a reconciliation of theories.For example: How Trump can sign off on a continuity of government EO and yet remove power from the Executive Branch and reconstituting the Executive Office of the President.Edge of the seat type stuff.And wouldn’t it be so cool if that office of the 45th potus which he opened last year with the stylised logo turns out to be part of the process? @jmc464 @Andre
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZrUfsOOcMUglG5Lc by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T06:43:16Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Kat Zero humour.I'd rather get punched in the face than watch anything featuring Kiefer.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZrmknWpvY9AIbWts by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T06:46:31Z
       
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       @Kat @johnglavine @jmc464 @h53pilot and @SLAG have theorised about secret conventions of states, government in exile, and other matters. If the CoG since 9/11 theory is correct, then a great deal of hard spitballing that attempted to remove perceived contradictions will be rendered obsolete.And I am sure they'd be thrilled. As would I.And spitballing anew shortly after absorbing the new information!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZrn9N9T8IzNjSJl2 by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T06:46:37Z
       
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       @Andre @Kat He never charged his clamshell phone.It had phenomenal battery life and capabilities.He kept on him.He showed us how geo tracking works.And it went over the top of our heads.Are you stifling a giggle now Andre? 😁
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZrzrcInMdk4ubXm4 by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T06:48:54Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Kat @jmc464 Remember Clinton asking what definition of 'is' was being used?This is very similar. The answer depends upon which definition of "President" is being used.CoG sets aside all of the civics we learned in school (if we were lucky) and redefines almost everything.This removes a LOT of presumed limitations and contradictions.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZs1KKjVrenQm5IWW by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T06:49:10Z
       
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       @Andre @Kat @jmc464 @h53pilot @SLAG Being on the cutting edge of discovery comes with many adrenaline rushes. 👍
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZsCpjX6o9A0AAffU by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T06:51:14Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Kat @jmc464 @h53pilot @SLAG I am SO glad FA got up and running. I feel more connected and engaged with a community than I have in a long time, certainly in my adult life.Being close to so much good and creative thinking is a great tonic too.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZsNCPZeBEzESmJKS by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T06:53:07Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Kat Right.Sure.He was prescient.What made me smile is that you find delight in poking that Hollywood salamander!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZt7JRtoWruNar2Nk by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T07:01:27Z
       
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       @Andre @Kat Just stirring you Andre.Like I do to me best Aussie mates. 😁😁I guess I’m now counting you with them! 👍
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZtHGCejkHnCzT4me by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T07:03:14Z
       
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       @Andre @Kat @jmc464 @h53pilot @SLAG Thank you Sir!And thank you to the other elders of the free state.@Bryan @surferistic
       
 (DIR) Post #AMZzehRaDona500gMa by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T08:14:42Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Kat Most Aussies I know never leave home without a wooden spoon.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMa05XA4YlVm0YcC5g by Mathman@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T08:19:32Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Andre @Kat One Kiefer Sutherland comment that is not meant to stir Andre. Check out the movie "To End All Wars." It is a more recent and truer version of the events around "Bridge on the River Kwai," - based on the book by Ernest Gordon who was a POW in WWII.Sutherland plays a character they call Yanker because he's "A Yank and a bit of a wanker." A few scenes are very tough to watch, but it is an excellent movie.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMa08KL2gy516g4thw by Mathman@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T08:20:05Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Andre @Kat One Kiefer Sutherland comment that is not meant to "stir" Andre. Check out the movie "To End All Wars." It is a more recent and truer version of the events around "Bridge on the River Kwai," - based on the book by Ernest Gordon who was a POW in WWII.Sutherland plays a character they call Yanker because he's "A Yank and a bit of a wanker." A few scenes are very tough to watch, but it is an excellent movie.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMa0X4xizsUweryRyS by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T08:24:32Z
       
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       @Mathman @johnglavine @Kat
       
 (DIR) Post #AMa4sIk3MNelIBxE5w by Spartan_Altsoba_Patriot@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T09:13:12Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Andre @Kat thanks!! Glad to be here!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMaBHITo4RrvRbeo3E by nchia@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T10:24:56Z
       
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       @Andre @johnglavine @Kat @jmc464 @h53pilot @SLAG Technically, proof positive you can buy FArens.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMaBPVV9XYNu9BCZJg by dzdork@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T10:26:26Z
       
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       @Andre thanks for directing us to the 17SOG  substack. I devoured all of their posts this am and impatiently await more!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMaFzMTux9PkPiyaFE by icare4america@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T11:17:32Z
       
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       @Andre @Lori Creative!!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMaH9lLHTan6MsSZVo by Spartan_Altsoba_Patriot@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T11:30:47Z
       
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       @Andre @johnglavine @Kat @jmc464 @h53pilot @SLAG well said!!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMaWhv1fTg8zYl1zCy by Swifty@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T14:25:02Z
       
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       @Andre @johnglavine @Kat @jmc464 @PatelPatriot Amen brother...Whether it's Devolution, Reconstitution or a hybrid consisting of those and other components, let us seek the truth and just win our country back.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMaYfIcjU811mpFLDE by Swifty@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T14:47:00Z
       
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       @Andre @Mathman @johnglavine @Kat His father was a much better actor...though a very strange guy to say the least.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMavaqpZAt9NNL65Ym by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T19:03:54Z
       
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       @dzdork I have long felt that until 9/11 is resolved the USA could not be healed. Turns out that I was correct, but in a way I did not anticipate at all!Clinton prototyped it in OKC and set GWB up with the powers he needed to execute 9/11 as the funeral for the Republic.Now, presuming #17SOG is correct, the Republic will be reborn.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMaw2VvCVXgEdRvIwa by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T19:08:43Z
       
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       @Swifty @Mathman @johnglavine @Kat From my admittedly limited experience, Hollywood actors are generally mentally ill people who just respond well and easily to direction.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMawpLB9Eo1jVTfHYO by Swifty@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T19:17:42Z
       
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       @Andre @Mathman @johnglavine @Kat For the most part this is true. However, there are still some present from prior generations with a moral compass still half-way intact (i.e. James Woods, Jon Voight, Mel Gibson, Clint Eastwood, etc.). There are many others that have since passed, but they were around Hollywood before the cabal was more deeply entrenched.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMazEJIbYzrSpCBeSG by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T19:44:40Z
       
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       @Swifty @Mathman @johnglavine @Kat Old school: John WayneNew School: Crispin Glover
       
 (DIR) Post #AMazNk6RHEj6YrzhD6 by Swifty@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T19:46:21Z
       
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       @Andre @Mathman @johnglavine @Kat Can't believe I forgot The Duke, lol. Should have been foremost on mind, as my dad cared for him prior to his death at Hoag hospital in Newport Beach.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMazqe5gi0tuJTQOpc by Swifty@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T19:48:17Z
       
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       @Andre @Mathman @johnglavine @Kat Another biggie was Charlton Heston...Mr NRA himself, and one of my heroes as an actor.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMazqeXh1tIniKWlU0 by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T19:51:30Z
       
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       @Swifty @Mathman @johnglavine @Kat "...from my cold, dead hands."
       
 (DIR) Post #AMb01MUSUHFgua7Ycy by Swifty@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T19:53:18Z
       
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       @Andre @Mathman @johnglavine @Kat Eeeexactly! 👍
       
 (DIR) Post #AMbLDzM9uLe7xu6KCO by dzdork@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T23:51:01Z
       
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       @Andre I fell for 9/11 for a long time. The guy I was dating was a structural engineer sent to the site to inspect one of the other buildings. He told me steel can suddenly liquify if it gets hot enough. So I believed what they told us. I look back and think how naive I was. These people are sicker than I could have ever imagined.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMbLFiXBQJ2gN558jo by Mongo3804@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T23:51:02Z
       
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       @StockliRacer @johnglavine @Andre Totally agree with your statement.👍
       
 (DIR) Post #AMbLwz8TZiTEJP9nDk by Moe30@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-16T23:59:10Z
       
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       @Spartan_Altsoba_Patriot @Lori @Andre Yes he did...
       
 (DIR) Post #AMbNM7kslUxwEqfk4O by Moe30@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-17T00:15:00Z
       
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       @Kat @johnglavine @Andre "Everything you believe in or we're told will be turned upside down"If thats not the statement of our time I don't know what is....
       
 (DIR) Post #AMbNVe1y8PCWwhCicC by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-17T00:16:40Z
       
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       @Moe30 @Kat @Andre And so it is. 👍Everyday we reevaluate our view of the battlefield.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMbNkykTO9H1XpKfsO by Moe30@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-17T00:19:29Z
       
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       @johnglavine @Kat @Andre No wonder I sleep like crap, I swear I read more theory and speculation every day.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMbrFdzVVmveoXL5U0 by Kat@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-17T05:49:58Z
       
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       @Andre @johnglavine Some sons have a lot to live up to.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMbrX4wiXy0bKvLciO by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-17T05:53:07Z
       
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       @Kat And only 24 hours to do all of it within! 🤣😂@Andre
       
 (DIR) Post #AMbrZBrbnYlBN0xtRI by Kat@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-17T05:53:30Z
       
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       @Andre @johnglavine @jmc464 So if they were using COG all this time, were they making their own constitution too? Or just ignoring ours? I would assume there is a global version somewhere. Or are we all serfs to the self appointed kings?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMbrrLw95LRFp9kPq4 by Kat@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-17T05:56:46Z
       
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       @Andre @johnglavine @jmc464 @h53pilot @SLAG  and I hear ‘Let’s get ready to RUMBLE!’ As a battle cry to get busy. Some say the secret to the fountain of youth is to keep learning. We are all going to start aging backwards!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMbsH2rccXLwCQsnS4 by Kat@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-17T06:01:25Z
       
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       @johnglavine @jmc464 @Andre YES YES YES!! I thought he was still or somehow President when I saw how elaborate that was. As a former he didn’t need anything so regal even though he’s known for over the top. He wouldn’t have spent much time there or need that to campaign for others. There’s probably symbolism in that seal we just don’t know it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMc5rNuBALZzHqjlaK by Andre@freeatlantis.com
       2022-08-17T08:33:40Z
       
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       @Kat @johnglavine @jmc464 Allowing constitutional forms to be parroted while doing whatever they liked behind the scenes, I reckon.