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(DIR) Post #AMWwv3gilVnuQs2YrI by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-14T20:59:41Z
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ThreadI just posted a link to a new article with a novel theory about how Trump, et al, could have responded to the Deep State:https://17sog.substack.com/p/reconstitutionI have seen a little bit of concern raised about this theory and the fact that it appears to contradict certain other theories.Firstly, we should all be prepared to question everything we think we know at any moment and abandon any theory that fails to explain reality with sufficient accuracy.
(DIR) Post #AMWww3iI9ltqnhFgum by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-14T21:00:05Z
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There is another aspect of all of this that I have been mulling. If one presumes that deception is part of the game (and I do presume that) then everyone has to at least consider the possibility that they are being fooled one way or another.
(DIR) Post #AMWwxCmJwGJFCkgPYG by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-14T21:00:19Z
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If the enemy is to be deceived, then Patriots must, for at least some time, be deceived too. The trail of documentary breadcrumbs analysed by Patel could easily be a part of a disinformation campaign intended to distract us from the truth for long enough to get the job done.
(DIR) Post #AMWwyxve7VXDjEstii by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-14T21:00:28Z
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In this capacity, we'd be temporarily in the role of 'useful idiots', parroting disinformation to obscure the actual plan. Since we this we are smart and in the 'know', any suggestion that we have been misinformed is a potential trigger for the Twain wisdom: "It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them that they have been fooled." Emotions could run hot as a result.
(DIR) Post #AMWx1JZibukHRVkRoO by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-14T21:00:54Z
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Do not be caught up in emotions and keep your eyes on the horizon!MAGAMEGAWe caught them all.END.
(DIR) Post #AMWxyRv5EG6mPNwH56 by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-14T21:11:44Z
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@Andre I'm interested to see the development of this theory by 17th SOG.I don't think Trump could have seized power for himself. But I wonder if the theory will talk about Trump REMOVING power, in some way, from Biden before he left office... leaving Biden on an island by himself.Where delegated authorities were permanently severed where all the executive agencies are currently operating without any authorization.
(DIR) Post #AMWy3nipazZnTWlB4q by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-14T21:12:43Z
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@Andre I'm interested to see the development of this theory by 17th SOG.I don't think Trump could have seized power for himself. But I wonder if the theory will talk about Trump REMOVING power, in some way, from Biden before he left office... leaving Biden on an island by himself.The idea being all delegated authorities were permanently severed and all the executive agencies are currently operating without any authorization.
(DIR) Post #AMWyTNjMqyNYOTD06a by LookingForGaltsGulch@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-14T21:17:20Z
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@Andre The only theory that I can't countenance posits President Trump, while assuring the world "I caught them all", "the best is yet to come", "the calm before the storm" [what storm Mr. President?] "you'll find out", and "I have powers that nobody knows about", to name a few: that he set absolutely nothing in motion, handed the ball to the enemy, and slinked off the field during what is one of the most consequential games in history, leaving the mess for "the people" to clean up on our own.
(DIR) Post #AMWyfIOKWxeTJE38Pg by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-14T21:19:26Z
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@LookingForGaltsGulch Yep. That is one of my fundamental assumptions.Trump did something. Trump did not do nothing. He could not. He gave an oath.
(DIR) Post #AMX1qDo0DlYs8MxWxk by Ann_Mandeville@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-14T21:55:03Z
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@Andre Perspective: I view it all through the eyes of successful game plays rather than failed attempts. I wonder what's being played out rather than a battle that's being lost.Keeps me out of the weeds and up in the 40,000 ft. point of view.
(DIR) Post #AMX2QVeDMUdttZgU5I by CatGirl88@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-14T22:01:37Z
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@Andre I have had this thought. I don't like it, but I do understand it. I will be glad when we get to the time when our 'yes is yes and our no is no."
(DIR) Post #AMX2vByWYN1VrLoYnw by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-14T22:07:10Z
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@CatGirl88 I do not mind being used. I do not mind being ignorant. I'd just like to get to the end of it too!
(DIR) Post #AMXAc1gfNZ9O5CpkTw by biernutz_71@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-14T23:33:19Z
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@Andre yes!
(DIR) Post #AMXFYhcW1xcGkT7uoi by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T00:28:46Z
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@Andre I am very open to this breadcrumbs idea.No disrespect to Patel or anyone is intended but I can’t see devolution working in isolation. In combination with something else absolutely.As a distraction most certainly.“Continuity of Government” as a concept existed before Trump and we should expect that there are enough people alive who remember its machinations when it was put together years ago (under GWB?).So under Trump it would be a variation of an established theme.Not a novelty.
(DIR) Post #AMXGUV1uzztMUpZIMC by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T00:39:12Z
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@h53pilot @Andre If Biden is actually in the mental state which he appears to be in, then it is likely that quite a number of executive agencies have, by necessity and as a practical matter, been operating independently.
(DIR) Post #AMXH7pX4hlQnNStbOq by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T00:46:19Z
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@jmc464 @Andre I'm talking independent of Biden's mental state... the severing of any executive agency (and therefore the entire deep state) authorities from the President of the United States... whoever it is/was.In that case, there would be no constitutional basis from which any executive agency could draw their authority... if their authority, granted by the president had been severed.
(DIR) Post #AMXHExe6wBgiZHaSjQ by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T00:47:37Z
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@jmc464 @Andre I am just wondering aloud if this is where the 17th SOG theory is headed.
(DIR) Post #AMXHKk5SGKHIFl8M3U by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T00:48:39Z
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@h53pilot @Andre I understood what you were talking about. I was making an additional point.
(DIR) Post #AMXI1JjQ7vIIxv82Ea by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T00:56:21Z
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@h53pilotIf “their authority, granted by the president had been severed”, then something further would need to have been done to prevent Bidet “reattaching” their authority. @jmc464 @Andre
(DIR) Post #AMXICRoaPhPdDkqu5A by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T00:58:20Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @Andre Yes, exactly. And I'm interested in their theory of how that could be. Perhaps I am misunderstanding what the article said.Guess we'll. They've definitely got my attention for now.
(DIR) Post #AMXIDbnKnJBySiov7w by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T00:58:35Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @Andre Yes, exactly. And I'm interested in their theory of how that could be. Perhaps I am misunderstanding what the article said.Guess we'll see. They've definitely got my attention for now.
(DIR) Post #AMXIH9SM678BjMhGyG by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T00:59:11Z
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@h53pilotThe absence of any “reattaching” could also render any actions that were purportedly taken “ultra vires”. @jmc464 @Andre
(DIR) Post #AMXIW6jQVgarckoUmO by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T01:01:55Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @Andre Not just "could" but "would!"
(DIR) Post #AMXIYW5ZChpwqZJmTY by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T01:02:22Z
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@h53pilotAbsolutely so. @jmc464 @Andre
(DIR) Post #AMXIkTCxjx2fO5TeNc by Kat@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T01:04:31Z
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@Andre Why was I not surprised we’ve been in COG since 9/12/2001? So you know how often they will post the rest?
(DIR) Post #AMXIxKMlvPS5jJCEoy by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T01:06:49Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @Andre Wait a minute...It just hit me. Perhaps "severing" is the wrong term. Simply exposing the "Executive Office of the President" as illegitimate is all that is needed. It was never legitimate in the first place.Wonder of the "raid" was after that which exposes the decades-long lie.
(DIR) Post #AMXIzYeFnPQubUR9EG by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T01:07:15Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @Andre Wait a minute...It just hit me. Perhaps "severing" is the wrong term. Simply exposing the "Executive Office of the President" as illegitimate is all that is needed. It was never legitimate in the first place.Wonder if the "raid" was after that which exposes the decades-long lie.
(DIR) Post #AMXJ5UGD1SrIjU18qG by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T01:08:19Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @Andre And, as with True the Vote...who exactly is the 17th SOG?
(DIR) Post #AMXJSTGqrt5CK8HHBR by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T01:12:28Z
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@Andre By way of clarification I tooted the above before reading the 17SOG substack.No confirmation bias.
(DIR) Post #AMXKhDtgPRGSwP2THk by rosemaxx7@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T01:26:21Z
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@LookingForGaltsGulch @AndreNAILED IT!
(DIR) Post #AMXLeiYI4v5l6KOybQ by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T01:37:05Z
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@h53pilotGoing off memory entirely were they the group that produced and published that “Ghosts” video that Kyle first shared here?It’s the logo that catches the eye.And I seem to recall Patel digging further into them. @jmc464 @Andre
(DIR) Post #AMXLrsNAsP3LK9TcZ6 by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T01:39:25Z
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@Kat I do not know. the first couple instalments are due soon but I am unaware of their longer term plans.
(DIR) Post #AMXMelrnr1WJKs7Nc8 by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T01:48:18Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 @Andre I was just looking for that video and can't find it on youtube or rumble. Is it still out there?I thought that video was from a legit military unit! But you're right. The logo is the same one.
(DIR) Post #AMXN7Ht0OszqkaHIwq by surferistic@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T01:53:24Z
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@h53pilot @johnglavine @jmc464 @Andre This one?https://youtu.be/VA4e0NqyYMw
(DIR) Post #AMXN9T19z6jZqy8Dtw by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T01:53:51Z
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@LookingForGaltsGulch @Andre Regardless, Trump did X and our understanding is Y. If one trusts Trump, all those themes you name are the best truth available.We can be comfortable without marrying a theory.
(DIR) Post #AMXNTwxAOW9SUM1xzs by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T01:57:33Z
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@surferistic @johnglavine @jmc464 @Andre Yes. And I think it was either @SLAG or @JFAnon who wrote some commentary on the video and specifically the logo.
(DIR) Post #AMXO3yYxt4CDuDtBQm by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T02:04:04Z
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@h53pilot @surferistic @jmc464 @Andre @SLAG @JFAnon 4th Psyop Group v 17th Special Operation Group.But I think it was SLAG who wrote about the video with lots of Japanese kabuki analogies?And Patel picked up on it also.There was another shorter video published after the first one published by the 4th Psyop Group.Trying to find it.
(DIR) Post #AMXO7oeAhFmCJI9haa by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T02:04:44Z
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@surferistic @johnglavine @jmc464 @Andre @SLAG @JFAnon Here's another video from their website:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi0yI3JovFg&t=117s
(DIR) Post #AMXOGnrD0CAGT1XTk0 by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T02:06:23Z
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@surferistic @johnglavine @jmc464 @Andre @SLAG @JFAnon So I wonder if the logo in both the video and 17th SOG site ties these two together. Hmm....https://www.soc.mil/4thPOG/4thPOGhome.html?fbclid=IwAR1764SV7zUY0dq3fB4KfMno_iDzSjFeJf85W56MR04nHDhKPFQETG1a5hE
(DIR) Post #AMXOGx0ky49KrF4jNA by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T02:06:23Z
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@h53pilot @surferistic @jmc464 @Andre @SLAG @JFAnon Found the one I was thinking of.https://t.me/Cat_The_Great/3495
(DIR) Post #AMXOcFaB7CnwXLneqW by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T02:10:16Z
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@surferistic @johnglavine @jmc464 @Andre @SLAG @JFAnon Note the civilian suits and engaging the interagency network. Psyops. Special Ops. In suits.Exciting stuff.
(DIR) Post #AMXOfSD0cxVuZ7USrQ by JFAnon@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T02:10:50Z
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@h53pilot @surferistic @johnglavine @jmc464 @Andre @SLAG We both did, though SLAG's was way deeper than mine..trying to find my comments now.https://slagfa.substack.com/p/the-wartime-presidency-part-vii
(DIR) Post #AMXPU9ucPgueaX4Agy by JFAnon@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T02:19:58Z
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@johnglavine @h53pilot @surferistic @jmc464 @Andre @SLAG The kabuki background SLAG posted is relevant...very interestingThe video continues to have a toe-hold in my consciousness. Beyond the content, with a history of bereft of recruitment efforts, why even post a recruitment video?
(DIR) Post #AMXQ5kcosWiNALfN4a by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T02:26:48Z
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@JFAnon @h53pilot @surferistic @jmc464 @Andre @SLAG As an excuse (cover story) for the communication?I’m also wondering whether we should make a big deal out of the “different publishers” that use the same logo.On the one hand it appears a little piecemeal and discourages sleuths from putting them all together as a whole.On the other hand it may suggest that there are several groups out there stating the same narrative (and presumably with “permission” to do so in a Psyop context).
(DIR) Post #AMXVqxK7z07fvmFfDE by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-15T03:31:22Z
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@PatriotReactor @LookingForGaltsGulch In my thinking, the jabs were an unavoidable deployment of weapons of war by the globalist neofascists. Trump could disrupt but not prevent their introduction.We will see if this holds water or if history judges him more harshly.
(DIR) Post #AMarAsbPZ72lWZpwFU by Frisbee@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-16T18:13:55Z
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@Andre I would be very interested in reading a discussion of this theory compared to Devolution. To be honest I don't have the analytical mind that you do - perhaps you and/or some of the others here do.Even before I discovered Jon's writing I knew that President Trump didn't just walk away. Devolution confirmed that. But I am aware that Jon may not have it all figured out; I am very interested in other researched perspectives.
(DIR) Post #AMarE1aQcR7gFzsPI0 by Frisbee@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-16T18:14:52Z
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@Andre I would be very interested in reading a discussion of this theory compared to Devolution. To be honest I don't have the analytical mind that you do.Even before I discovered Jon's writing I knew that President Trump didn't just walk away. Devolution confirmed that. But I am aware that Jon may not have it all figured out; I am very interested in other researched perspectives.
(DIR) Post #AMarp7NW33PivzWZU0 by Frisbee@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-16T18:21:40Z
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@Andre I would be very interested in reading a discussion of this theory compared to Devolution. Even before I discovered Jon's writing I knew that President Trump didn't just walk away. Devolution confirmed that. But I am aware that Jon may not have it all figured out; I am very interested in other researched perspectives.
(DIR) Post #AMawDFi77WwBXivG0e by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-08-16T19:10:50Z
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@Frisbee Right now, I am of the FEELING (not an opinion yet) that the devolution mechanisms systematically documented by @PatelPatriot were peripherally or occasionally use but served primarily as a distraction from the reality, i.e., the presence of a secret imperial presidency that must be destroyed (or, as #17SOG calls it, Reconstituted).