Post AMSDMYPEdGNHGFlviy by sotolf@social.linux.pizza
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 (DIR) Post #AMSAvAt9lHJOb1aIG8 by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2022-08-12T13:43:13Z
       
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       PrivacyToolsIO failing to their principles: dark patterns and the hidden contract with NordVPN:https://raccoon.ebin.city/guides/privacytoolsio-nordvpn.html
       
 (DIR) Post #AMSAxInNKr7ThJtXZg by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2022-08-12T13:43:37Z
       
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       @Yujiri here it is
       
 (DIR) Post #AMSCbIWLsL72NqZF20 by sotolf@social.linux.pizza
       2022-08-12T14:02:01Z
       
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       @werwolf small correction if you feel like fixing it: "PrivacyTools has losen every bit of credibility."I think you meant lost here?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMSDGhh5BfxkKUKYe8 by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2022-08-12T14:09:33Z
       
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       @sotolf probably, I've edited so much the article that some words messed up at the end. On top of that, English is not my mother language, it's hard for me to write a error-free article. Thanks!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMSDMYPEdGNHGFlviy by sotolf@social.linux.pizza
       2022-08-12T14:10:31Z
       
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       @werwolf Yeah, it's something that is so easy to overlook it as well when you've been looking at the text so often :) I just pointed it out in case you wanted to correct it :) I'm far from a spelling marvel myself :p
       
 (DIR) Post #AMSJjTbvE856m31IMy by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2022-08-12T15:21:52Z
       
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       I've done a small update contemplating their Affiliate program policy. As you'll see, they're completely ignoring it. This would be less serious if they were a little bit more transparent.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMSP6TdXnMs3HoZ7HU by nyooooooom@todon.eu
       2022-08-12T16:22:09Z
       
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       @werwolf privacytools.io went trough a lot of changes in the last years, now the team that was behind privacytools.io is at privacyguides.org, and privacytools.io seems to be owned by one person o a completely different team, here's more info about it: https://www.privacyguides.org/blog/2021/09/14/welcome-to-privacy-guides/https://web.archive.org/web/20210729184422/https://blog.privacytools.io/the-future-of-privacytools/
       
 (DIR) Post #AMSUKlIpPUvvtvVTP6 by cyberghost@fosstodon.org
       2022-08-12T17:20:45Z
       
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       @werwolf Thanks for your article, I loved it! I used to like privacytools in the past, and it makes me sad what people do when money is involved 😪
       
 (DIR) Post #AMSZRWlaLy5QcF0FIu by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2022-08-12T18:18:00Z
       
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       @nyooooooom I'm well aware. Privacy Guides isn't much better in terms of recommendations. https://raccoon.ebin.city/the-problem.htmlAt least they don't seem to have been bribed by a VPN company.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMSdWsVPM4Z5IqF7uC by cyberghost@fosstodon.org
       2022-08-12T19:03:44Z
       
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       @werwolf Do you have plans to implement RSS support in your website? Or maybe you already have, and I didn't notice it ... I'd love to keep up with your posts
       
 (DIR) Post #AMSiECEEIiwqk17RlQ by nyooooooom@todon.eu
       2022-08-12T19:56:27Z
       
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       @werwolf i mean yeah they do recommend proprietary programs and all but that's because the privacyguides team is trying to also get to the general public, and the general public is definitely not going to use something like searxng, tor browser, librewolf or riseup mail, they'll want to use mainstream stuff like protonmail, duckduckgo or startpage and brave, which are much better than using google for everything, so i don't think that the privacyguides team has "betrayed" the privacy movement, it just offers more mainstream solutions, which are a great start point for beginners in the privacy and security movement, i mean i just started using duckduckgo on google chrome on my windows laptop when i got interested in privacy and now i'm using a searxng instance on firefox with ublock origin and fedora on my laptop, so yeah, i don't think it's that bad that privacyguides recommends certain proprietary or mainstream tools
       
 (DIR) Post #AMSnPX4rcoM2MKxmfg by bojkotiMalbona@infosec.exchange
       2022-08-12T20:54:29Z
       
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       @werwolf Good catch! TY for documenting it in detail. The #PrivacyToolsIO & #PrivacyGuides folks have been dodgy as hell from day 1. It was always evident there were deep conflicts of interest, most particularly from the #Signal thread: https://github.com/privacytools/privacytools.io/issues/779  Also see: https://lemmy.ml/post/31433 & https://lemmy.ml/post/30736 & https://lemmy.ml/post/31487
       
 (DIR) Post #AMSnS42q1Z1LBWDsoK by bojkotiMalbona@infosec.exchange
       2022-08-12T20:55:00Z
       
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       @werwolf @Yujiri Good catch! TY for documenting it in detail. The #PrivacyToolsIO & #PrivacyGuides folks have been dodgy as hell from day 1. It was always evident there were deep conflicts of interest, most particularly from the #Signal thread: https://github.com/privacytools/privacytools.io/issues/779  Also see: https://lemmy.ml/post/31433 & https://lemmy.ml/post/30736 & https://lemmy.ml/post/31487
       
 (DIR) Post #AMSpCoaHQLkWnbimxc by batalanto@todon.nl
       2022-08-12T21:14:28Z
       
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       @bojkotiMalbona @werwolf I noticed from your article that even #privacytools change logs are on a Cloudflare website calling itself #awesomealternatives. It’s never just one irony with these folks; it’s always a cascade of irony & #hypocrisy.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMSq8OCze6LznCHbIu by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2022-08-12T21:24:57Z
       
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       @cyberghost there's no RSS feed unfortunately, the static site generator we use is so simple that doesn't have support for it. I'll add this to our ToDo list, I might trying to hack a simple shell script for this in the future.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMSqlpW03RKjmAynse by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2022-08-12T21:32:11Z
       
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       @nyooooooom I understand your arguments. But some things are just bad, for example:There's not a higher level of complexity in using Librewolf over Firefox. If the user is going to change their DNS resolved anyway, then why listing Clodflare? It requires the same effort to change from default to Cloudflare than to change from default to a not Cloudflare resolver.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMSqnCrYjY5ITeiimm by werwolf@fosstodon.org
       2022-08-12T21:32:23Z
       
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       @nyooooooom Sure, the recommendations in Privacy Guides are undoubtedly better than using Google. But still there are some recommendations which I can't understand.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMT0wI4ZjQOcmdmLY0 by nyooooooom@todon.eu
       2022-08-12T23:26:07Z
       
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       @werwolf this is probably done for the people who want to use stuff from big companies, there's a lot of people who would rather use something like cloudflare than something like nextdns, and the same goes to librewolf which btw is just firefox with some settings changed and it comes with certain extensions and search engines, someone who doesn't know a lot about this stuff will just get confused and will probably abandon the idea of more privacy because it seems annoying to do (which it is honestly)