Post AMRDftKcrRmkVMsRHc by RacistJudgeHolden@poa.st
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 (DIR) Post #AMQvIwpBuT2NVF5Fbc by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:13:34.819172Z
       
       26 likes, 6 repeats
       
       Not going to 100% unequivocally throw in the towel for incels here but i genuinely want someone who actually sincerely believes that if you're an average white dude, especially a white nationalist, in 2022 that if you cant just walk outside and get pussy with relative ease its because you aren't working hard enough or something like that how that isnt any different at a functionally than "just pull yourself up by the bootstraps bro" or "just give them your resume and a firm handshake, son".  I want you to logically break down, linguistically, epistemologically, etc. how "just will to power your way into some cooter" is not functionally identical to "just will to power your way into a 6 figure job".  Please, im all ears.  Im not being sarcastic, im not trying to be an asshole, i am genuinely curious as to why or how one of these arguments hds up and the lther doesnt.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQvP3BbAfYuyCTU0m by Riamu@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:14:42.019418Z
       
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       @doctorsex Agree, its the same logic tbh.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQvW2edXv4TLeOHtA by DrRyanSkelton@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:15:57.691525Z
       
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       @doctorsex For the last two days I have been completely unable to comprehend there are people here on poast, right now, who are seriously giving people shit like this. I STILL can't believe it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQvZKpgPt7Waz7zQe by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:16:33.808907Z
       
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       @Riamu it is, beat for beat.  I think that there are valid criticisms of "incelism" but falling back on "lollmao this dude just mad he dont get any" only reinforces the core point.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQvm4ucv2Tkz5W5oW by Riamu@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:18:51.729698Z
       
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       @doctorsex Well it's just word games, who here that is a serious person is advocating for "incelism?" whatever the fuck that means? No one. The bottom line is society is fucked so shitting on individuals reaping the benefits of of ancestors selling us down the river to kikes isn't going to do anything. I mean idc, people can do what they want. But drawing arbitrary lines of "you guys over here get zero pussy so I'm going to berate you for it" seems like the kind of jewish shit zog wants people like us to be doing tbh.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQvrDK94XqEWJtxjs by Riamu@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:19:47.416535Z
       
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       @doctorsex Other then Nick Fuentes* (controlled op catboy zogbot slave informant faggot)
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQvsPYZ4rLSkTDWUK by JungersGhost@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:19:59.523175Z
       
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       @doctorsex "Throw in the towel for incels"You know throwing in the towel means surrendering right? The "incels" have already done that for themselves. Thats the problem.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQvu6jA3RD6vjyy5A by DrRyanSkelton@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:20:17.390658Z
       
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       @doctorsex Like, I understand "Yes, the odds are horrible, but if people played the odds, Columbus would have never had a crew. If you don't raise a family, you don't matter." These arguments at least ADDRESS the issues at play and make objectively true statements even if they don't really answer any of the concerns and would never convince anyone, "It's actually easy bro you just need to go out there and do stuff. Just man up." is just utterly insane to read to me.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQwK3UwgQsYRahpoG by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:25:00.370835Z
       
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       @JungersGhost look if you wanna split hairs over the exact wording of my post thats cool and all but unless you're here to elaborate on how this line of thought is functionally different than bootstraps posting then with all due respect im really not interested in engaging further.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQwiMVPfJgaLRVzGK by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:29:23.976890Z
       
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       @DrRyanSkelton absolutely.  I have no resentment or bitterness towards the people who do make it.  Genuinely happy for them.  They are extremely lucky relative to the rest of us, though, and its not likely that the rest of us will find ourselves in a similar set of perfect circumstances.  Conversely i dont think guys should just "give up", but its absolutely ridiculous to pretend that if you can't get a wife/gf its entirely at you're feet.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQwjhR1KwUPXr69RI by ClovisMerovingian@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:23:15.723658Z
       
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       @doctorsex It's not like you can even really go anywhere to meet women anymore. Dating apps? All whores. Bars? More whores. Church? Closet whores. Finding a women who you can raise a family with is difficult nowadays.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQwt38zzWhRTv7wsC by Leaflord@leafposter.club
       2022-08-11T23:31:18.252092Z
       
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       @doctorsex It's not about working hard, it's about actually going out and doing it.Most people, especially those who whine about it most, are unmotivated jaded locked in pieces of shit. Be attractive. Does that mean be a good looking model? No, it means be attractive. If someone can't grasp the difference they are probably better off not getting any cooch as it creates an accidental risk of reproduction and god knows we have enough retards running around.Be interesting. Does that mean do whacky tabacky stuff to make yourself look interesting? No, it means be an actually interesting person. Be passionate and have interests.Congratulations you have suceeded if any hole's a goal. That being said if you want more than to just get your dick wet, and are looking for your second half you enter a significantly different field. At that point the only advice that you can realistically get is at the bottom of this post.The true tragedy is that, in a way, boomer advice isn't wrong. Going out and giving a firm handshake isn't about going out and shaking hands and getting a job handed to you on a platter. It's about being likeable and proactive and being someone that people want on their team. Most autismos just stick to the letters, not the meaning because autismos are fucking retarded. So when they go and apply that advice they mechanically execute what they were told without actually thinking about the meaning of the words. These platitudes that get repeated by mindless NPCs who don't understand what they are saying actually has its origin in a place of deep wisdom. They are just fools parroting a sage. Think deeper and understand thoroughly these common sense platitudes.The same can be said of the ultimate advice : "Just be yourself."
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQwtXdAduey2BTT4C by Riamu@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:31:24.618930Z
       
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       @doctorsex @DrRyanSkelton The venn diagram of niggas who make it then berate us and use individual failings and circumstances (that really are the result of a large societal failing) is a circle btw. Also I though we were fascists since when do we accept individualist egalitarian bullshit framing on anything?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQx9xMMkc5ySrRQCu by LouisConde@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:34:20.022647Z
       
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       @doctorsex I agree that it sucks out there and it shouldn't have to be like this.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQxG7QUEkMxQGJ6fI by caekislove@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:35:29.874214Z
       
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       @doctorsex Basically the equivalent of "Having trouble paying for college? Just work a part-time job after class!" 🙄
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQxHbQgAhBilV6Yjo by JungersGhost@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:35:46.130821Z
       
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       @doctorsex "Thats just bootstrap pulling" is a thought-terminating cliche. The phrase is meant to describe an impossible task, which finding a mate is NOT. There are single females at every church near you, at every bar and bookstore and place where people gather, it is not at ALL like "willing yourself into a 6 figure job." People can give all the advice in the world but if the response from the "incels" is to quote statistics at us or blame society then there's nothing we can do for them. No one is telling them "just get pussy bro".
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQxRjmLyzfjYa4ji4 by caekislove@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:37:35.490770Z
       
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       @ClovisMerovingian @doctorsex You can't even find whores* at bars anymore. Everyone is just an alcoholic getting their fix and they don't want to interact with anything except the cell phone they're staring at.*(well, maybe you can find literal ones)
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQxpEySAM4gy1wTLs by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:41:50.892086Z
       
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       @JungersGhost again, splitting hairs over how words are used versus literal diction.  You know what I meant, and you know what I'm referring to.  I actually recently got out of a ~2 year relationship.  I was able to enter that relationship through sheer luck.  Absute circumstance.  Yeah, there was action on my part.  Had to put myself out there a bit, get a little bit uncomfortable, open myself up to the risk of being rejected.    And i know that i would be 100% full of shit if i were to go around and pretend that any random guy could just stumble into my circumstances.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQxtFsMks9mvG0cvw by ClovisMerovingian@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:42:00.669293Z
       
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       @caekislove @doctorsex True. That is how it is for most places. You can't even really just "start up a conversation" easily anymore. Got to be at the right place at the right time.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQxvx23Gw8JLepDiS by mkultra@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:43:03.259424Z
       
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       @JungersGhost @doctorsex >thought-terminating clicheis a thought-terminating cliche you fucking mongoloid.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQyOzR7PbiFCeOegq by JungersGhost@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:48:18.518003Z
       
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       @doctorsex "There was action on my part"Yes that is the point. Opportunity comes to nothing if you don't ACT.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQyWLV7m5rdf7mIF6 by caekislove@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:49:38.151413Z
       
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       @Leaflord @doctorsex I always felt that "Craft the perfect mask" is much better advice than "Be yourself!"
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQyfv3gwSrgY3Vlx2 by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:51:22.081638Z
       
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       @JungersGhost @doctorsex Bro people on opiods literally just need to not do something (take drugs), does that mean every White person who dies/has their life destroyed due to opiods deserves it? If you're such an anti-solidaristic person then what exactly is your problem with the current system? Just get a high paying jobs, find a mate, repeat all the jew talking points while not actually harming yourself/your family, bam you're living the good life in clownworld.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQyjTRjXsog4KS4y8 by Nirty_Digger@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:52:00.414940Z
       
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       @doctorsex There is only so much "just improve yourself bro" you can do. Sure you can lift heavier, eat healthier, read more, be more out going, but at the end of the day there is a power structure that has designed it so that young White men cand find a woman to marry.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQz061prhhcMZGSEy by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:55:00.892159Z
       
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       @JungersGhost my point is that i was uniquely lucky to have the opportunity.  I personally know some of the people invested in these discussions on here and can tell you for a fact that they do not have access to that.  "Go out there and make the opportunity!"  Again, this is literally no different than libertarian boomer advice.  If you're going to shit on libertarian boomer advice for not holding up in terms of actual material circumstances, then i see no reason why you shouldn't be shit on for this.  If you're going to tactically adopt said boomer libertarian advice, i see no reason why you shouldnt be shit on similar to a boomer libertarian.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQz4LQkXktxHzwZ5U by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
       2022-08-11T23:55:46.933666Z
       
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       @JungersGhost @doctorsex If you're in America it's way easier to get a high paying job simply by learning to code than it is to find a decent lifelong wife, so does that mean all White people who aren't upper middle class deserve their declining living standards?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQzAThYhk8WgAjM2q by Travis_Hawks@nicecrew.digital
       2022-08-11T23:56:53.446979Z
       
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       you end up with a sexual arms race between men but no improvement in the prizes they compete for
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQzUlwcaTfP3BS9B2 by JungersGhost@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:00:33.519825Z
       
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       @doctorsex Well then there's nothing to be done for them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQzYI77RHazgs2bo0 by Leaflord@leafposter.club
       2022-08-12T00:01:09.102442Z
       
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       @caekislove @doctorsex Can't say I agree. The mask will slip, no matter how well crafted.Instead of pretending to be a person, why not actually just be one?Instead of living in a simulacrum of happiness, just actually be happy.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQzcCi1TYuK5PAUvQ by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:01:53.907668Z
       
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       @JungersGhost not on an individual level, certainly.  Systemic issues are systemic and must be dealt with as such.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQzekn7jIruMylnoO by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:02:21.183186Z
       
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       @Leaflord @doctorsex No one is saying that it's impossible to get a woman with enough effort, people are saying that the game has been so rigged that the juice isn't worth the squeeze. If you learn to code in America then you can get a job that pays good money, does that mean everyone who's not making six figures rn is retarded?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMQzhdQzXUWWQAn9fM by BigDuck@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:02:50.995502Z
       
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       @doctorsex Rape
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR01ZTtwjGDx7evnk by caekislove@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:06:28.039696Z
       
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       @Leaflord @doctorsex Just think of it as embellishing your resume a bit.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR0BIvkKwpHW6KBQ8 by JungersGhost@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:08:07.930683Z
       
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       @doctorsex I do not believe that solving systemic issues would put these men one inch closer to finding a partner.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR0CojFb2gSQZCWzg by Fever@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:08:30.669372Z
       
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       @Travis_Hawks @Nirty_Digger @doctorsex Travis, this post is fugging 🔥 More than 2/3 of the women in America have taken the clot shot and you can’t tell by looking at them which ones they are. Google shut down unvaxed dating apps immediately.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR0F1rpidx5krGotM by Leaflord@leafposter.club
       2022-08-12T00:08:52.402778Z
       
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       @HyperboreanWave @doctorsex The post was specifically asking about getting pussy, which is really not complicated. Just don't be a faggot. Finding your better half is a different question, and always has been.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR0XM2lRVgfXj7ae8 by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:12:10.286576Z
       
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       @JungersGhost is the state of the dating market or whatever the hell you want to call it the result of systemic factors or not?  Are divorce rates a systemic issue or not?  We can go down the list here but if you think the marked deterioration across the the board for the state of the overall relationships for men and women boils down to hundereds or thousands of individual decisions that all just coincidentally happened to go the same way around the same time in similar frequencies i just dont believe you, especially if you are some sort of "dissident right wing" type who is willing to make such systemic critiques on whatever number of other such topics.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR0nTIaEgvgg5CpV2 by Leaflord@leafposter.club
       2022-08-12T00:15:03.222467Z
       
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       @caekislove @doctorsex What if these niggas are just not attractive? Internet dating is and always was for losers who can't get someone irl. As expected, it's full of unattractive subhumans (of both sexes)Women get to decide what makes a man attractive, as they are at the end of that process, in the same way that men get to decide what makes women attractive as they are also the intended audience.The main problem with PUA and other dating/relationship strategist types is that it's all fake embellishment, while happiness requires genuine articles. Once again, if your goal is to get your dick wet, it works. If you are looking for love, it doesn't.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR0nxblXw6CgGPZZ2 by JungersGhost@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:15:13.535538Z
       
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       @doctorsex Of course there are systemic problems. There are definitely men withholding themselves from the dating market for those reasons. I just don't believe that the men seething about pussy on poastdotcom are THOSE men.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR1FZnfeorWwx9Fo0 by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:20:13.185448Z
       
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       @JungersGhost i know for a fact at least 2 of them arent.  But the fact that you can acknowledge there are systemic issues at play kind of goes to show that it all doesnt just boil down to "skill issue, work harder/self improve more"
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR1KPj6XRSr9fJqL2 by JungersGhost@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:21:05.754377Z
       
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       @doctorsex I do not accept that the presence of systemic issues justifies giving up.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR1vkIZ10lbfjhps8 by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:27:50.452356Z
       
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       @JungersGhost i think the framing of "whining about pussy" and "giving up" are why you're having a hard time here.  Ive seen maybe 2 dudes in my entire time on this website do that.  Everybody else is just trying to have an objective discussion that everyone seems fuy capable of having wrt blacks, gays, whatever else, but curiously enough the second women come up as something to be discussed the onus and criticism seems to be shifted on the observer rather than the subject, as it is in every other case.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR2Hs4UnOjS9PfyQS by JungersGhost@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:31:50.350278Z
       
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       @doctorsex Because women are seen as objects who react, rather than agents that do the acting. Generally true, but also often wrong. It also comes down to your available options, which are to fight aka do the boomer-straps stuff, or give up. Theres really no in-between.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR2MUzo1AVk1ygmSe by JungersGhost@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:32:40.086128Z
       
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       @doctorsex Because women are seen as objects who react, rather than agents that do the acting. Generally true, but also often wrong. It also comes down to your available options, which are to fight aka do the boomer-straps stuff, or give up. Theres really no in-between. You can't control the world around you, only yourself.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR32ERZwqsQrGZzPs by DEERBLOOD@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:40:09.166365Z
       
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       @doctorsex I thought this was the nazi instance. Where did all these incels come from? I've seen good advice offered and it's been met with excuses and self pity. You can't help the helpless
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR369Ooe63MN49iLY by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:40:55.569456Z
       
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       @JungersGhost >let me reduce this to a black and white either-or issueNo.  Thats stupid and you should feel stupid for positing it.  There isnt a single issue that cannot be, at the very least, examined with nuance before a conclusion is arrived at.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR3BbbxBLObJgtyka by JungersGhost@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:41:54.664678Z
       
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       @doctorsex They've BEEN examined. At some point these men will have to do something in order to find a partner. There will be no state-issued gfs.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR3CLqPHwI0hq1AfI by johnbudd1350@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:42:02.828232Z
       
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       @DEERBLOOD @doctorsex The frustration comes from guys who have followed this good advice to a T, and still meet with abject failure. At that point it's not enough to say "just fix it yourself!"
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR3Q90vmtjYy4W9Gy by DEERBLOOD@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:44:32.169585Z
       
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       @johnbudd1350 @doctorsex The deck is indeed stacked mightily against us. Until we have hands on the reigns of power, rising above is the only option. Or you can be an incel. Not everyone is going to make it
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR3rHPChEZ4oQoHcu by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:49:20.989247Z
       
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       @DEERBLOOD the "good advice" ive seen so far is epistemologically indistinguishable from boomer libertarianism on "bootstrap your way to a six figure job" so unless youve seen otherwise im reslly not all that interested, no offense
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR3vuSJS0a95BTJom by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:50:16.286545Z
       
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       @JungersGhost show me where people are asking for state mandated gfs.  I don't think youve sufficiently examined the situation here, or if you have, you're just not being honest about it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR4BRx7C0Q1JaI11k by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:53:03.414387Z
       
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       @DEERBLOOD @johnbudd1350 >the deck is indeed stacked... ...rising above is the only optionI agree, and thats what i get out of 90% of the people who are trying to discuss this.  The contention lies within however "rising above" is defined and what that entails, and also how wildly much it varies from person to person.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR4BVB3CeLfJfpgfI by JungersGhost@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:53:04.607757Z
       
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       @doctorsex The issues have been examined. I'm saying that even under ideal circumstances men will still have to take it upon themselves to seek out a partner.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR4Jp9onjxdbHDzNo by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:54:36.306393Z
       
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       @JungersGhost nobody's asking for a pussy dispensary retard, we're asking for an honest and analytic discussion on what is required to enter into a fulfilling discussion as an average single white man in piss earth 2022 beyond some saccharinne "lol sounds like a skill issue".
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR4VOFcfFdHcuSFTU by johnbudd1350@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:56:41.681247Z
       
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       @doctorsex @DEERBLOOD It's like hearing "Just rise above your neighborhood being flooded by blacks! Just move a few exits down the highway bro, duh!". I'd like to talk about the underlying problem, why are we spending all this time talking about individual failures? I thought this instance was for collectivist national socialists who have this worldview?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR4Yx5faXzAY2Uv8y by RoyalJohnny242@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:57:19.831289Z
       
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       @doctorsex @JungersGhost We already have a pussy dispensary It’s called Waffle House during the graveyard shift
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR4jXI5qphtiXM6aG by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:59:15.154345Z
       
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       @RoyalJohnny242 @JungersGhost look i get that beggars cant be choosers and all but im sure the "pull yourself up by the dickstraps" crowd at the very least can understand why many of us are not champing at the bit for a chance to lay pipe in a 70 year old syphillitic crack addict
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR4mYAR35h3IwD86q by UnityOstara@poa.st
       2022-08-12T00:59:46.971754Z
       
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       @RoyalJohnny242 @doctorsex @JungersGhost Dear God no! I used to live within a block radius of a Houston Waffle House. Never again!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR4zlt5Lh2pcaOquW by UnityOstara@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:02:11.190500Z
       
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       @RoyalJohnny242 @doctorsex @JungersGhost What ever happened to Denny's? Pick up a nice goth chick, check her ID, seriously Check her ID, and give her a chance.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR542XdN6LOQnOxlY by DEERBLOOD@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:02:57.364401Z
       
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       @doctorsex No I get it. You shouldn't have to exert any effort at all to be attractive
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR55wBjxmwdJ4491U by JungersGhost@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:03:18.030179Z
       
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       @doctorsex @RoyalJohnny242 I don't understand whats so hard about "Go to place with females""Talk to them"Whats the disconnect here
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR5EHnBWZ5acuYqfI by RoyalJohnny242@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:04:48.489811Z
       
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       @doctorsex @JungersGhost “You gosh darn spoiled brats and your zipperhead sex dolls! Back in my day if we had a dry spell we’d drive around to find a dive diner with a sexy female custodian, take a shit on the bathroom floor, and then wrestle her down like a gorilla before forcing myself in her like a crazed duck! We had initiative unlike you kids and your Gameboy Advance SDs!”
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR5H5kMlWDq8Ya3Qe by DEERBLOOD@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:05:18.971733Z
       
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       @johnbudd1350 @doctorsex Because as I said, until you can fix societal woes the only option available to you is to better yourself and overcome. Especially on the WQ. Apparently it hasn't occurred to a lot of people that women aren't attracted to shut ins with niche hobbies. It's possible to "bootstrap" yourself into being confident and having experiences that make you fun and interesting
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR5I1ssc1UkRl0fke by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:05:29.165370Z
       
       4 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @DEERBLOOD where the fuck did anyone say that?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR5OwdSWd42CA5um8 by johnbudd1350@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:06:44.068929Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @DEERBLOOD @doctorsex Everyone already admits this. We'd like to move on to talking about what to do about what we cannot control as individuals, which fails because it's always blocked by this sort of thinking.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR5UU27mRbBDzGxLE by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:07:44.232690Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @JungersGhost @RoyalJohnny242 can you understand why im a bit hesitant to take this at face value when in a seperate, previous post in this thread you yourself have said you acknowledge there are systemic factors at play that implicitly discourage this exact sort of thing from happening?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR5Xvp4uqJmHUoYiW by RoyalJohnny242@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:08:21.186255Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @doctorsex @JungersGhost For a second I thought you were replying to my banger of a Gigachad post and I got confused
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR5ZX1E6jrLvqG9tg by DEERBLOOD@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:08:38.881990Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @johnbudd1350 @doctorsex I don't know. It's going to be an intergenerational battle. We won't live to see the results. I'd say it begins with community and making the most out of your circumstances
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR5eTfC0heGyPJOfw by JungersGhost@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:09:32.540353Z
       
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       @doctorsex @RoyalJohnny242 Systemic factors are risks to be mitigated and obstacles to be overcome. They are not an insurmountable blockade.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR5fSahU1Ifw8gAds by DEERBLOOD@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:09:43.234605Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @doctorsex That's what bootstrapping refers to, yeah? Also, you absolutely can bootstrap yourself into a six figure income. I'm not quite there, but I'm close. I can tell you how I achieved that, but you're not going to like it
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR63BMjB7ALSmSHaa by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:14:00.451584Z
       
       5 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @DEERBLOOD >colloquialisms vs literal dictionAlso, cool anecdote, but im sure you can understand or sympathize if im not exactly going to look ar what worked for you in your specific circumstances, compare that to my own 1:1 and go "wow this will absolutely work, i can definitely finegel a 100k+ salary if i do exactly what this guy did".  Happy for you, dont get me wrong, but you are you and i am not you.  What works for you, even if it could work for me in a slim, marginal chance, does not have a solid chance, much less a guarantee of working for me.  Im just working with what can be quantified and my own experience here.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR6Hs3lEuIJvlaV0K by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:16:39.670377Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @JungersGhost @RoyalJohnny242 right, everyone talking about this stuff is talking about things from a risk mitigation perspective.  "How do i get this at low risk?"  Ask any of them if that question summarizes the core thrust of what they're getting at and i guarantee you nine times out of ten they would agree.  Systemic issues also have to be tackled on a systemic level.  Sure, you can have solutions that work on an individual level, but the broader issue is still there.  People want to fix that.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR6zmEWGOGUbNYWgK by DEERBLOOD@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:24:35.514638Z
       
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       @doctorsex I'll buy that to an extent. But I'm not an ubermensch and you're selling yourself short. I hate being taken away from my hobbies, so I decided that if I had to work I'd figure out what sorts of things would make my time as valuable to my employer as possible. Turns out that's leadership experience, and leaders aren't born; they're made
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR70zmTNYzKuP1CW8 by JungersGhost@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:24:48.967046Z
       
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       @doctorsex @RoyalJohnny242 Theres nothing wrong with that but its much easier to solve the problem of a single person rather than a million so people will naturally tend to the question of "how does this individual person find a partner?"
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR7NxR6GM0YITyEu8 by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:28:58.044076Z
       
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       @JungersGhost @RoyalJohnny242 right, and thats not what people on here are talking about.  When someone brings up the issue of decades of media brainwashing and its impact on society, i doubt you would say to them "wow just turn off your tv", i would imagine you take a much more direct approach of "yeah we should punish the people responsible for that and make sure in the future when we win stuff like that isn't put out."  Sure, "turn off the tv" is easier, but I doubt you leave your response to that issue or similar ones at that.  Granted, i have no clue what goes on in your head and frankly i dony feel like digging through your post history to try and figure that out, im just making assumptions here, but i think all things considered they're pretty safe ones.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR7UB2IbxWYDLKsq0 by Boomerman@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:30:05.440511Z
       
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       @doctorsex Dawg why?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR7cKgUcgjmSF1c6C by Wisconsin_Kraut@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:31:33.872498Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @doctorsex it's a skill, one I used to really suck at and now only mildly suck at, to be learned like any other. It helps to have bros that can back you up and the old boomer advice of ask her does eventually work if you do it enough times. It's not fun to get rejected and realistically you are gonna crash and burn alot before you get er in so to speak. More to your point it basically is esoteric bootstrapism but for a much more achievable goal. 6 figures is hard, getting a woman is comparatively achievable. If you look at the score and decide no thanks, I don't care just don't yell sour grapes and say that there are no "good" women left, because if ther was one thing I've learned from studying history it's that women were always just as capricious, cunning, ruthless, amoral, and slutty as they are now society and men were just more understanding of that fact and willing to stop women's nonstop bullshit.TL:RD yeah it's basically just bootstraps, but for a realistic goal.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR7qHgOZzcxCQdFXU by Wisconsin_Kraut@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:34:05.187856Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @doctorsex Forgot this, it's not really about getting laid it's about understanding how to gaslight and emotionally manipulate a woman into doing what you want, pussy is basically a factor of go to house party and ask sufficiently drunk girl to dip your wick.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR7qZfHirQyyCFcJ6 by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:34:08.295594Z
       
       7 likes, 2 repeats
       
       @DEERBLOOD again, the issue isnt "selling myself short".  Im not approaching this as an individual issue.  Ive had success with this stuff in the past.  Im approaching this from a systemic perspective, and that seems to be where the disconnect is.  You think im talking about myself when im talking about the uphill battle that however many white men face in regards to this issue.  I'm not, plain and simple.  I could probably go out and get another girlfriend pretty easily.  I plan on doing that at some point relatively soon.  But thats not the issue here, the issue here is all of my brothers that for some reason or another, outside of unambiguously personal shortcomings, getting what is by and far the short end of a stick that is needlessly set up as such.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR7rvEwzYHSAqZlvE by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:34:21.864156Z
       
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       @Boomerman ?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR88p1jLUPPpKS0oa by Boomerman@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:37:20.090767Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @doctorsex Why ask this
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR8LtWZw2N9XZ75M0 by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:39:46.821662Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Boomerman because im genuinely curious
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR8MIGTx1LqGsm5Ee by DEERBLOOD@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:39:51.601512Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @JungersGhost @doctorsex @RoyalJohnny242 It was a herculean effort, but you can't talk to a man who just wants to have a pity party
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR8kpuoUUMdaQLGlc by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:44:18.245900Z
       
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       @DEERBLOOD @JungersGhost @RoyalJohnny242 again, you a want to make this about me or whichever person you are specifically talking to on this topic at any given moment.  Ive been pretty clear this isn't some personal grudge or whatever individualistic impulse you want to ascribe to it, let alone something as childish as a "pity party".  I dont know why this is so hard for you and however many other people to wrap your heads around.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR8nzHa7VRTVVUhpQ by DEERBLOOD@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:44:52.572971Z
       
       3 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @doctorsex No I get that. I was born in hell world, I'm attempting to meet a women and raise a family in hell world, and I'll die in hell world. Until we can heal society, the only option I have (besides giving up) is to be the best me I can be. We live in a dark age. So have our ancestors. There are challenges. We meet them or we perish
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR8vhYntXEmrLED2G by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:46:16.163141Z
       
       3 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @DEERBLOOD i don't disagree, i just think its reay weird how combative/defensive people get on this issue in particular, especially compared to other ones.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR8yeTpnqzwAvJKCG by Boomerman@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:46:48.225947Z
       
       4 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @doctorsex Ill throwy 2 cents in and say having served in the military ive seen a dark side too women and the amount of power they weild through the institutions is honestly scary. So dealing with them feels like navigating a exhausting minefield. Thats for me at least.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR9366f20SJ0yaiOW by caekislove@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:47:36.362068Z
       
       4 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @doctorsex @DEERBLOOD @JungersGhost @RoyalJohnny242 The libertarian seed needs to be burned out of the popular imagination with fire.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR97QEO9NsUaYGfeC by DEERBLOOD@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:48:23.300649Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @caekislove @doctorsex @JungersGhost @RoyalJohnny242 I'm a nazi, but I have personal agency and ambition. Weird, I know
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR99UtFnacbcMN77A by RoyalJohnny242@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:48:45.717127Z
       
       5 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @caekislove @doctorsex @DEERBLOOD @JungersGhost Tfw libertarians burnt out their seed imagining (INSERT TASTELESS AOC RELATED JOKE HERE)
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR9NdhtoZdZ16nvfs by Nidoking@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:51:19.176569Z
       
       4 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Riamu @doctorsex @DrRyanSkelton Married NatSocs suddenly become individualists
       
 (DIR) Post #AMR9p9hswrIk55v0VM by DEERBLOOD@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:56:16.793188Z
       
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       @doctorsex Because we're all getting rained on. It's not just you. And there isn't anything we can do at an institutional or societal level to fix it
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRABiVAGLO4Mlj6PI by Wisconsin_Kraut@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:00:20.988280Z
       
       4 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @doctorsex oh one last point I think our guys are really dropping the ball on this because I got almost no support but literally a week after becoming friends with a normie dude at work he was wingmaning for me and vice versa. And Borzoi needs to shut the fuck up because he literally had his perfect woman chase him down like a horny mako shark, because before that he couldn't get a girl for love nor money.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRAKd1A1MyBxqwRuq by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:01:58.809702Z
       
       3 likes, 2 repeats
       
       @DEERBLOOD yes, we are all getting rained on, which is why this is a problem that must be dealt with collectively/systemically.  I have even gone to great lengths in this thread to depersonize my position as much as possible here. To your second point, there’s also nothing we can do at an institutional or societal level to fix the issues of jewish power or things like drag queen story hour either (or at least no more than what we could do to fix the issues with male and female dating dynamics), and yet i see no shortage of discussion on those things.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRAWMvJgWrNWXo3sW by Wisconsin_Kraut@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:04:06.128279Z
       
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       @doctorsex ok fucking buck fisty of cents added and I'd love to hear your response as I don't think I was to boomerish here but I think I'm done.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRArvOwgyO8XJwaXo by H_A_Copington@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:07:47.863621Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @DEERBLOOD @doctorsex The Kali Yuga is a hell of a drug.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRAsjnpIk02qxyAGe by DEERBLOOD@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:08:08.602177Z
       
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       @H_A_Copington @doctorsex Only 4500 years left!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRAuSUMe30djagdHs by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:08:26.806681Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Wisconsin_Kraut well, i get that its a two way street.  You cant expect to set up a political movement on the basis of being a pussy dispenser, but on the flip side if youre trying to cater to dissafected young white men its maybe not that great of a response when they want to discuss the hardships of finding a fulfilling relationship to go "fuck you, sounds like you're just being a whiny bitch about this" when you could easily apply that to any number of other issues that are taken seriously within a similar framework
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRBBsVRANaJLfUjtw by DEERBLOOD@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:11:36.080764Z
       
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       @doctorsex I thrive on other people's suffering. Not in the sadistic way. But I noticed in my military career that when people are bitching and complaining about how much something sucks, my resolve strengthens We're all getting rained on. Some guys are trying to build shelter and others are saying it's not fair that it's raining and how dare you suggest building something against it opposed to stopping the rain
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRBOU0HZrJZ7UvtuS by Wisconsin_Kraut@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:13:52.388156Z
       
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       @doctorsex fully agree and I wish that wasn't alot of people's knee jerk response, Conversation I have had MGTOWs (I'm gonna use MGTOW because incel is a shitty term) scream at me that there is no use improving themselves because women are just uniquely evil right now, I am not accusing you of this btw.As always the real problem is the loudest people are invariably the most retarded so they scream at each other and drown everyone intelligent out.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRBViJEmsfdW1FMeW by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:15:11.367375Z
       
       3 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @DEERBLOOD im all for building something, but to me, "building something" in this analogy means finding a solution to a systemic issue.  If other guys find a way to cover their own asses, good for them, im certainly not going to hold that against them, but it doesnt change that its still raining on the rest of us and we were never given tarps or what have you.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRBedjFBf3XuofRSq by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:16:44.681178Z
       
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       @Wisconsin_Kraut i dont like "incel" or "mgtow".  I just dont agree with either of those labels, in definition or in implication.  I just want the discussion on women to operate at the same standard we have every other discussion at, and apparently that is like drawing blood from a stone with some fucking people.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRBido6pyIzJiqpTk by DEERBLOOD@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:17:28.811148Z
       
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       @doctorsex I wasn't given a tarp either. I'm trying to put one together out of leaves and mud. Until Hitler comes to save the day, that's all I've got available to me
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRBzkLllR40X4kg6q by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:20:36.375853Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @DEERBLOOD you understand what im getting at though, right?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRC1TX9G4k8xLtmCW by Wisconsin_Kraut@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:20:55.700549Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @doctorsex alas if the was a cure for retards we would all be unusually blessed.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRCJLfzD8APncYTo0 by CasperDoogan@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:24:09.569195Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @doctorsex @Wisconsin_Kraut I think intersexual competition becomes the defining thing in a lot of men's lives, their identity revolves around it.  They're not going to sympathize with men that get fucked over by the dating market or women in general, idk.  It's like the crowd of guys that sit back and laugh when some spoiled skank is punching some guy then angrily white knight for her the moment he finally punches back
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRCe0YquYbmOS4N28 by DEERBLOOD@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:27:53.587240Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @doctorsex Perfectly. Women are impressionable and our entire society is aimed at ruining them as wives for white men and mothers of white children. But we still need to make white children
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRCoTA9QTTRzmVJ8S by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:29:45.745741Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Wisconsin_Kraut @doctorsex What
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRDTHtKEmtIuX66ng by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:37:09.632190Z
       
       4 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @DEERBLOOD i agree, i just want the discourse to be more open and more geared towards making that as possible and as accesible as it can be for as many of us as possible rather than a bunch of dudes blindly stumbling through a minefield and going "well shit, i managed to make it through"
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRDftKcrRmkVMsRHc by RacistJudgeHolden@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:34:58.155137Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Wisconsin_Kraut @doctorsex When your close friend (racist podcaster) doesn't help you get laid.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRDn55TYIfizXDdaa by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:40:44.292161Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @DEERBLOOD and this isnt some demand for people to take everyone's hand and walk them through the minefield, id rather have the mines dug out.  I know that having the metaphorical minefield be completely swept is rather lofty to say the least, but i dont think its unreasonable to say that at least a few lanes could be opened up, so to speak.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRE2UKNzV2jcKXWuu by Wisconsin_Kraut@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:43:29.726401Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @borzoi @doctorsex I phrased that stronger than I meant and admittedly I have no idea who you are past a dude who called me a faggot on Twitter years ago. But broadly there was a batch of poast from a number of people basically saying that incels need to stop being whiny faggots and actually try to get a girl before they write off half the population, a sentiment I don't dislike with. Apologies if I offended hope you the wife and son are doing well.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMREF1Jt9ZKDPnHbW4 by DEERBLOOD@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:45:47.178141Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @doctorsex And I'm going to succeed in starting a family. Societal conditions be damned
       
 (DIR) Post #AMREaIr99GefstzHyi by borzoi@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:49:37.739532Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Wisconsin_Kraut @doctorsex I figured you were just ribbing me but wasn’t sure
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRF7T3eEwIJ53eIuO by MachineMadeDog@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:55:37.646911Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @borzoi @Wisconsin_Kraut @doctorsex an amazingly normal human interaction on the internet.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRFN4yTY7KF1KfqEq by Wisconsin_Kraut@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:58:26.900881Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @MachineMadeDog @borzoi @doctorsex obviously we are both federal agents
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRFS2g1WFZdLIPSEq by MachineMadeDog@poa.st
       2022-08-12T02:59:20.649901Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Wisconsin_Kraut @borzoi @doctorsex i said normal human, not big time gay
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRGlOGZZeGvl1ILqq by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T03:14:02.853824Z
       
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       @DEERBLOOD congrats!
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRGntKr1ynMhBUSXo by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T03:14:29.942882Z
       
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       @DEERBLOOD oh wait this was future tense.  In which case, still, best of luck to you.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRH0Jef0A9tnag9Jo by kaosktrl@poa.st
       2022-08-12T03:16:44.639350Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @doctorsex @DEERBLOOD yes yesi wish you well
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRJW6xPwhN5aqk13o by Exile@poa.st
       2022-08-12T03:44:54.079612Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @doctorsex Because women are not as unapproachable and unattainable as a six figure job is.  Charming them is much more a matter of will and simple social skills than job hunting is.For the guys saying "but why would I just have casual sex," one reason is to take the edge off and make hitting on marriageable girls smoother and less fraught with drama.  Practice on the girls you're not stressing over so you're not a sputtering nervous retard with the better ones.Just learn to flirt and be a halfway decent conversationalist with a sense of humor.   And don't use words like epistemological or shit-test every woman on White nationalism before you get to know her.Read the better older manosphere stuff like Heartiste (it's been archived/mirrored).
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRJZp46PVNfGBdbPc by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
       2022-08-12T03:45:34.221329Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Exile @doctorsex If someone learns to code it's far easier getting a six figure programming job in America than a lifelong partner.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRJhtfdAiUVrN2dKC by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
       2022-08-12T03:47:01.847300Z
       
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       @Exile @doctorsex First page of indeed
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRJrfC9qUzRrRueWG by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
       2022-08-12T03:48:47.786798Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Exile @doctorsex So I guess if you're White and poor that means it's your own fault and you should bootstrap yourself right?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRK7HwO4Z8cN8zEy8 by Nano_Lytel@poa.st
       2022-08-12T03:05:18.405101Z
       
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       @doctorsex Looking at this thread, how are there self-appointed nazis using incel as an insult or a pejorative? This is another shitlib term used to belittle and sideline men who start seeing asking questions. Asking "why is it so much more difficult to find a woman these days?" could be the start to looking at why society the way it is. Knowing that jews et large are the cause of all of this shit, they demean you as an "incel" and hope you shut up. That is the function of the word "incel," it's the same as racist or Nazi or whatever the fuck else these people come up with. Furthermore, purely individual solutions aren't going to cut it when everyone involved would have to agree that there is NOT a good woman for every man inquiring. So what then? Keep bootstrapping and putting all of this effort in knowing full well that it might not work anyway, just mathematically?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRKFNa4zDZcBKPVtQ by Exile@poa.st
       2022-08-12T03:53:04.941832Z
       
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       @HyperboreanWave @doctorsex The expectations guys have for lifelong partnership need to be re-examined.  Love is overrated, especially the "first sight" variety we've been taught to consider "real and true."  Part of the problem is that guys try too hard to make their woman their friend rather than treating that relationship as its own kind of thing with different priorities.   Especially early on, treating your girl like your best buddy is rarely a good idea.  Guys need circles of male friends to satisfy that side of things.  Women are more like a challenge or a task, especially to start, than a friendship.If you just expect it to happen, it's going to be hard and unlikely to succeed, but if you treat it like a task, it's still rarely going to be easy but you will get better results.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRKUHXBkYHllwAFfc by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
       2022-08-12T03:55:46.527627Z
       
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       @Exile @doctorsex Okay but you're not addressing what I said. It's far easier to get a job that pays you six figures (in America at least) than it is to get a wife that will stay with you for the rest of your life, so why is it valid to politically advocate for poor Whites but not valid to politically advocate for incel Whites? It's your own fault if you are poor far more than it is your own fault that you're incel.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRKaKsmDLN9tU9Hsm by 14point88niggawatts@poa.st
       2022-08-12T03:56:52.043451Z
       
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       @doctorsex @JungersGhost Luck is created by forming good habits and planning, not happenstance. Luck is the merger of preparation and action
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRKxKK0SurcoaqefI by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:01:01.466421Z
       
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       @Exile @doctorsex Just like guys give advice to getting women we can give guys advice on how to not be poor, why is the former considered adequate for the solution of inceldom while the later isn't adequate for the solution of poverty?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRL0ntYy63TP88aR6 by 14point88niggawatts@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:01:38.849782Z
       
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       @doctorsex Luck is created by forming good habits and planning, not happenstance. Luck is the merger of preparation, patience and action
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRL1bAxkC5WFHefrM by Exile@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:01:47.613024Z
       
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       @HyperboreanWave @doctorsex Everyone around here understands the problems with women and opposes all the poz that helps make them that way.  No one supports feminism, divorce rape, degeneracy, porn, single mommies, etc...  The NJP's 25 point platform covers that ground.What are you demanding beyond this?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRL6kjjcmRlLVNRqa by Exile@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:02:38.977539Z
       
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       @HyperboreanWave @doctorsex Again, what is it you want us to do?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRL6v6R5EXzUo4icS by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:02:45.125759Z
       
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       @Exile @doctorsex I can tell an opioid addict exactly what he need to do to no longer be in that situation, is me giving that advice to him the political solution to opioid addiction?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRL8ez3z4p05DSM7c by doctorsex@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:03:04.396635Z
       
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       @Exile >a woman is more approachable than a 6 figure salary jobI dont disagree.  Never have.  You're making this about scale/proportionality here though, and when people push back on this line of logic when applied to jobs, i don't generally see them do so on those grounds.  If it doesnt hold up in those cases on the grounds of material realities, i dont see why simply changing the matter of scale would change the logic there.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRLB2VlTrKBdCt30C by SettlerLife@poa.st
       2022-08-12T01:17:16.990940Z
       
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       @JungersGhost @doctorsex @RoyalJohnny242 I mean talk to them about what? Spergs don't have a fucking clue man.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRLCj1EvKIRkwPeV6 by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:03:48.465949Z
       
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       @Exile @doctorsex I have policy prescriptions, but the first step in trying to figure out what to do politically is recognizing that something is a political issue.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRLD8Y40QPIvyxidM by Exile@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:03:52.977003Z
       
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       @doctorsex I cannot follow what you are saying.  Please clarify.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRLGdNFqxhNPIZePg by Exile@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:04:30.859693Z
       
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       @HyperboreanWave @doctorsex Let's do that.  What are your policy prescriptions?
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRLPbJasV8Tcx8Zto by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:06:08.037487Z
       
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       @Exile @doctorsex My policy prescription is state-arranged marriages or other forms of government intervention in the dating market.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRLezCqKkaO4HJepE by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:08:54.625868Z
       
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       @Exile @doctorsex I'm not going against the NJP here, but just like there is no point regarding opioid addiction and yet something would need to be done regarding that so would the matter of inceldom.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRLjgZb2Qh3j7CRBw by 14point88niggawatts@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:09:45.755754Z
       
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       @caekislove @doctorsex @DEERBLOOD @JungersGhost @RoyalJohnny242 >I can’t find a girlfriend >this is society’s problem I know women are in many ways cattle to the system. You must be a horse thief, you are a thought criminal, and women will sniff that out, fast. You must find one that wants that. It will be harder than being some normal faggot like me in a ticky tacky subdivision.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRLoB6VT2CXZgje5I by Remi@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:10:33.641581Z
       
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       @SettlerLife @JungersGhost @doctorsex @RoyalJohnny242 Against my better judgement of replying to this series of hellthreads, this is the real issue I think. A lot of advice given to spergs really only goes halfway. You can say "go to places where your type of girl frequents and talk to them", but the sperg needs MUCH more input than simply that. How to approach, what to talk about, how to keep the conversation going, how to disengage, etc. If spergs knew how to do these things then they wouldn't be spergs, but nobody has any interest in explaining to them."Just be yourself" means absolutely nothing if you're a sperg.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRLtIJw40IbP8SLWi by Remi@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:11:29.963180Z
       
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       @SettlerLife @JungersGhost @doctorsex @RoyalJohnny242 Explaining these things is admittedly a large task and something they should have learned from their fathers.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRLurlxjtLze9JbBA by Exile@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:11:47.084314Z
       
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       @HyperboreanWave @doctorsex This is why people reject incel advocacy.  Fathers and brothers aren't going stand for assigning their daughters and sisters to strangers.People with any respect for and experience with healthy family life would not go in for this.  I've seen you argue for folkish paganism - this is the least folkish, most synthetic and unnatural marriage policy imaginable - outside of test tube babies or clones.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRM2mTrIZcFYBcZd2 by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:13:12.822298Z
       
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       @Exile @doctorsex You mean like fathers and brothers were arranging for the marriage of their women for millennia? Where did I say strangers? Obviously the family would play a big role in choosing the spouse.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRMOApfxCxB9q1ijI by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:17:03.403965Z
       
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       @Exile @doctorsex This just sounds like libertarian fearmongering of government-run healthcare. I live in Canada and the healthcare system works fine, there is plenty of choice and malleability in the system, it's just run by the government for the benefit of society, and not for individualistic profit.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRMV7XqZjmizM04HI by Exile@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:18:20.214089Z
       
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       @HyperboreanWave @doctorsex You're moving goalposts here.  You said the state, not the family.Even on the family level, the historic degree to which marriage was purely arranged rather than "approved" outside noble families is vastly exaggerated.  It's another example of modern Trad romanticism distorting reality.Families lived in close proximity and the children of friends grew up together.  Understandings were reached between fathers that good matches could be made between their kids.  But this was rarely a matter of simple contract like trading livestock.  The role of parents in forbidding bad choices by their kids was more important than the parents literally pre-selecting the spouse.  "Bad boys" didn't prosper where parents had a say and slags were vetoed by mothers as much as fathers.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRMjAoHEVSbAXNzJQ by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:20:52.508257Z
       
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       @Exile @doctorsex The state would be working on the arrangement of marriage for everybody, so that if you have a shitty family you would still get someone in the government to take care of you, but if your family would want to be more actively involved in the process they would have the ability to do so.You're describing a more primitive version of a system, state-arranged marriages would be that system just more sophisticated and working better. Just like witch-doctors were developed in to modern MDs so would primitive arranged marriage evolve in to state-arranged marriage.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRMsFMlf6ypuFqT68 by Exile@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:22:30.850132Z
       
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       @HyperboreanWave @doctorsex This is WASP-tier bugman shit.  If you proposed this to any family man I know, he would put hands on you.  You're as poor a spokesman for incels as you are for pagans.  Sorry man but you need to get better at this, I'm not going to sugar coat it or waste more time.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRMtjFs1Q7ytVKG7U by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:22:46.841280Z
       
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       @Exile @doctorsex Everything in the past was handled by the family which is why marriages also were. As we have developed the government has taken over in spheres such as medicine, so I see no reason why they wouldn't in marriage as well.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRMzxg7JETdMgZfcW by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:23:54.513961Z
       
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       @Exile @doctorsex This is the same "keep yer dam commie hands off muh medicare" luddite nonsense.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRN3cPIKytsYFRwPo by Exile@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:24:33.736200Z
       
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       @HyperboreanWave @doctorsex Work on your tism, I don't know what else to tell you.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRN3xCF2hw91qVJU8 by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
       2022-08-12T04:24:37.821300Z
       
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       @Exile This is the same "keep yer dam commie hands off muh medicare" luddite nonsense. Jews are using the state to get women to fuck niggers, there's no reason why we can't use the state and institutions downstream from the state to create healthy families.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMRynhuHuxezEYmp4S by Senator_Armstrong@detroitriotcity.com
       2022-08-12T11:27:28.760477Z
       
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       @doctorsex If you're in good shape, you're charming, and have any social skills, it's not that hard - you just don't get into the politics until after you've already banged her.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMS05E7BWRIQ0Cjjd2 by Giga_Vril_Breaker@poa.st
       2022-08-12T11:41:51.444031Z
       
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       @doctorsex It seems to me the problem is twofold. The libertarian mind virus and the ironybro mindvirus, which makes impossible any genuine expressions of empathy. The paranoia of not wanting to descend into a reddit wholesome chungus hugbox makes it impossible for many people to show some love to the bros, the untouchable incels most of all.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMS269DhPHRz1ELnYe by Leaflord@leafposter.club
       2022-08-12T12:04:23.474915Z
       
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       @wildgoose @caekislove @doctorsex If they are at that point they should just kill themselves
       
 (DIR) Post #AMS2LJC6bYhuIUpnZw by Telvannichad@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-08-12T12:07:10.080516Z
       
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       @Giga_Vril_Breaker @doctorsex This thread has been very entertaining :blobcat3c:
       
 (DIR) Post #AMS4T7Yfx0Q8QyFDJg by Nidoking@poa.st
       2022-08-12T12:30:59.788230Z
       
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       @JungersGhost @doctorsex You can't just get a girl on your own; you have to convince her. The same with a job; you have to convince the boss. You can try all you want, but it's outside your control.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMS62hmLNM9qrLAYZU by JungersGhost@poa.st
       2022-08-12T12:48:37.541395Z
       
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       @Nidoking @doctorsex What you can do is emulate traits that females desire (IRL, not okcupid surveys) and talk to females you find compelling. Sort of like fishing.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMS6E4dsi5HsxFdFlA by Nidoking@poa.st
       2022-08-12T12:50:41.224742Z
       
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       @JungersGhost @doctorsex True. Your previous post made it sound like mere access to women was a solution, which it obviously isn't. I think it actually is more or less luck, you can try all you want but it's ultimately up to the fish if it bites or not.
       
 (DIR) Post #AMS79EdkD8xcT6pBZo by BrothorCraig@poa.st
       2022-08-12T13:01:01.034567Z
       
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       @doctorsex How in depth do you want me to go or should I do a "for dummies" kind of thing? Totally serious.