Post ALm47eAZvEj7zqnBQm by satur@fosstodon.org
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(DIR) Post #ALgP3MsDCdeYpXcx8a by trom@social.trom.tf
2022-07-20T12:34:14Z
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Our https://tromnews.com/illustrations/ does not work because, well, Instagram...you see most people use Instagram and that's where we can find these "artists" making interesting illustrations. Now to pull that content from Instagram you have to "hack" it. And so we use Bibliogram, which is a front-end for Instagram that also allows you to see people's profiles without having to have an Instagram account (the sane way). Plus, it provides an RSS feed for accounts.Anyway, Instagram is blocking such front-ends so these days it seems all Bibliogram instances are not working, or not working properly. So you know...People should use Pixelfed instead. Federated, trade-free. However most of them won't, for two main reasons that are entangled with each-other:1. Fame2. MoneyIn other words, in this trade based society one can and will convert views and followers into products, currency, access. Trade those. And so human immediately associate quantity (of likes, shares, followers, comments, etc) with "value", simply because the more of those, the better and more trades you can do with them. And so the concept of fame is reinforced and maximized.Even those who may not use their "reach" to trade for something, they (because of the trade value of those) still see the quantity as "value". And so, even the ones bashing facebook, youtube, instagram and the like, do so on those platforms. The irony cannot be greater.At least TROM walks that talk, and we have gave up on those ad-platforms. Now we use our own that connect with tens of millions of humans from all around the world. Pixelfed, Friendica, Mastodon, Peertube, and so many other platforms, are amazing alternatives to those ad-platforms like youtube, facebook, twitter, instagram and the like.Anyway, it happened before that insta-ad has blocked Bibliogram, but then Bibliogram hacked it again. So our Illustrations stream may work again these days. We shall see....#tromlive #TradeRuinsEverything
(DIR) Post #ALgbGdMMPwdbAyoyQK by futureisfoss@fosstodon.org
2022-07-20T14:51:51Z
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@tromYou know there's actually a lot of great artists and photographers on the fediverse, maybe you should also showcase some of their pictures on https://tromnews.com.Off the top of my head, there's @brandkopf, @eyeling, @sohkamyung, @norG, @IanCykowski, @sergeaus, etc. Trust me there is a lot more photographers and artists on fedi, too long for me to list all of them here. You can also take a look at @Curator to find more artists.
(DIR) Post #ALgcPPgciu7RKW37DM by eyeling@mastodon.art
2022-07-20T15:03:50Z
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@futureisfoss @trom. Hear, Hear (and thanks for the boost!)mastodon.art is full of insanely talented artists! Also check out #mastoart and #CreativeToots
(DIR) Post #ALgchyc9bJRorxoIXw by futureisfoss@fosstodon.org
2022-07-20T15:06:48Z
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cc: @tio
(DIR) Post #ALgeMlqi4Aof6cdPWq by tio@social.trom.tf
2022-07-20T15:09:07Z
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no no this category was different. not just "artists" but those that illustrate how fucked up our society is. their "art" had a strong, very strong, message. if you can find me such "artists" on the fediverse I'd be so happy to add them to the mix.
(DIR) Post #ALgeMmdz6yEPZRglKi by futureisfoss@fosstodon.org
2022-07-20T15:26:05Z
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@tioSo I believe that category is about illustrations that make you think about our world, right? I'm not aware of any specific artist in mind, but there might be some on fedi that would fit your category. And all of these artists and photographers I mentioned above, you might be able to showcase some of their works on other categories too, its a way for you to reduce your dependence on these commercial platforms.@eyeling @sohkamyung @brandkopf @IanCykowski @Curator @trom @sergeaus @norG
(DIR) Post #ALgen1DfXgusIytDhQ by futureisfoss@fosstodon.org
2022-07-20T15:31:05Z
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@tioSee how you can get RSS feeds of mastodon profiles - https://mstdn.social/@feditips/105385800055230181I believe pixelfed has something similar too...... 🤔
(DIR) Post #ALghUEOQdgPfWSehGq by tio@social.trom.tf
2022-07-20T15:40:46Z
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Yes but I havent seen any that is focused on that aspect...the accounts we used were from very well known artists that do most of their art as a criticism of this society...I do not want to just add random artistic drawings. Nothing wrong with that but this is not the thing we have on tromnews ;)
(DIR) Post #ALghUEuKj3vx7PaB04 by futureisfoss@fosstodon.org
2022-07-20T16:01:46Z
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@tioHmm.... How about the photographs though? Can you add them to TROMnews? If you look at the accounts I mentioned there is a lot of great photographers there 🙂
(DIR) Post #ALgiRaA9LLaC7qHFvU by norG@photog.social
2022-07-20T16:10:49Z
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@futureisfoss thank you so much for the mention, that brought a pretty huge smile to my face!
(DIR) Post #ALgjqThkaiJzI2Qehc by tio@social.trom.tf
2022-07-20T16:19:26Z
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Well the reason I use reddit for this is because there are trillions of photos out there....to get the best and not flood the stream, the reddit "rank" system is very useful. We only grab the super popular photos from specific categories...but if you know any amazing source of photography let me know.
(DIR) Post #ALgjqU7d2V1OaIXK2S by futureisfoss@fosstodon.org
2022-07-20T16:27:34Z
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@tioI recommend you go through some of those accounts I mentioned, they really are good photographers, I follow them. And remember that these are the people that decided to move away from those commercialized platforms, that's why I mentioned them :)
(DIR) Post #ALm47eAZvEj7zqnBQm by satur@fosstodon.org
2022-07-23T06:07:35Z
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@trom there are tons of good photos with CC license on Flickr.Regarding the use of Instagram, I think the main reason most people don't consider using pixelfed is actually because there is no decent mobile app available so far.
(DIR) Post #ALm9icJaHRz6jIS85A by satur@fosstodon.org
2022-07-23T07:09:29Z
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@trom By the way, what happened to media.trom.tf? I remember it was meant to be something like pixelfed.
(DIR) Post #ALmcP07YxQvnRSpQGm by trom@social.trom.tf
2022-07-23T12:26:47Z
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Yes but we need a way to be able to "follow" some accounts in order to grab their content and post on TROMnews. If you know any share please. About people not using Pixelfed I wish that was the case, but once a great app will be available you'll see that people still won't join....because people rarely change and they do what the majority do. If the majority of people are on Instagram, they will be there too.
(DIR) Post #ALmcWgaPTGpxAlzBJo by trom@social.trom.tf
2022-07-23T12:27:36Z
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That was meant for media that would be trade-free an anyone can use. However for one we didn't find a good software to host that...and second it takes a lot of time and resources to do such a website...maybe in the future we will...for now we can't.
(DIR) Post #ALn2OqckreuqnQ0QCm by satur@fosstodon.org
2022-07-23T17:23:26Z
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@trom I think your initiative was quite interesting because something I think is missing is a repository of images (like Unsplash) that can be used on websites and news but that is also social and libre (like Pixelfed). I think some kind of tweaked Pixelfed would do the job.
(DIR) Post #ALnqnGyxVq97CcER3g by trom@social.trom.tf
2022-07-24T02:46:02Z
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It is still a project that we think about and we have not filly abandoned...but too many things under the TROM umbrella. It is quite a challenge to maintain everything at this point. Maybe after the TROM II documentary is released we can look again into this. I'd love to see such a website.