Post ALiIsKX3UaE5unyWCe by hyde@lazybear.social
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(DIR) Post #ALhDYJhmADuGd5fQUi by hyde@lazybear.social
2022-07-20T22:01:20Z
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Any good alternative to #Duolingo without trackers and #privacy friendly ?
(DIR) Post #ALhDuEyQR5icKGuPce by MusiqueNow@todon.eu
2022-07-20T22:05:15Z
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@hyde I reboosted. I'd like to know that myself.
(DIR) Post #ALhG2P0BEbqzeYkVyC by hyde@lazybear.social
2022-07-20T22:29:10Z
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@MusiqueNow Thanks
(DIR) Post #ALhJnKusXenSSHLCl6 by kentoseth@fosstodon.org
2022-07-20T23:11:15Z
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@hyde Which language? It all depends on the language sadly.
(DIR) Post #ALhK0tRBVLkfHiurjc by hyde@lazybear.social
2022-07-20T23:13:43Z
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@kentoseth English, French, Spanish, Russian, Portuguese
(DIR) Post #ALhPCiL35zZE6kVCqG by RussSharek@mastodon.art
2022-07-21T00:11:51Z
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@hyde Following with interest.
(DIR) Post #ALhPI8iOSJszMS0asS by hyde@lazybear.social
2022-07-21T00:12:52Z
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@RussSharek Hopefully someone will find a golden nugget ...
(DIR) Post #ALhSjlqrM3baQEpsRM by dualhammers@merveilles.town
2022-07-21T00:51:27Z
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@hyde by alternative you mean a similar app or an alternative for learning a language?
(DIR) Post #ALhT9XoeA5L4Q85fqi by byterhymer@mastodon.social
2022-07-21T00:56:07Z
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@hyde I got a B.A. in Language Studies from the University of California focusing on Japanese. I was pretty happy with it.Admittedly, I graduated in 1999.Also, I began studying Japanese informally in the 1970s.Formal studies began at Monterey Peninsula College circa 1991?Having in person conversational practice, for me, was indispensable. I don't think any apps can replace that.jisho.org is less cumbersome than carrying around dictionaries I suppose? Dunno about their tracking though.
(DIR) Post #ALhU70yjNZ9jx6AHx2 by akeboshi@mstdn.social
2022-07-21T01:06:49Z
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@hyde Very curious about this too. 🤔 I was going to suggest Clozemaster, until I had a look at their privacy policy... yeah no.
(DIR) Post #ALhgiPednQRgeEMpGa by fedor@mastodon.gamedev.place
2022-07-21T03:28:04Z
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@hyde not exactly alternative, but I settled on AnkiDroid + my own dictionary, which I populate with the words I catch from some context
(DIR) Post #ALhkPgqs25X4IaPoMi by arthurnunesc@mastodon.social
2022-07-21T04:09:30Z
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@hyde i would say anki is probably a good one, you can use a multitude of decks to learn pretty much anything lol
(DIR) Post #ALhtVrQ2YWyqOhsnLc by jrballesteros05@fosstodon.org
2022-07-21T05:51:30Z
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@hyde I know about Librelingo but the last time I checked was "Work in progress" and there was a course in Spanish.
(DIR) Post #ALhuGMV1Keza71Nys4 by sotolf@social.linux.pizza
2022-07-21T05:59:52Z
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@hyde I've been quite liking "10 000 sentences" it's available through fdroid as well :)
(DIR) Post #ALi6383cukIh0V1rV2 by gunchleoc@mastodon.scot
2022-07-21T08:11:51Z
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@hyde My phone has built-in tracking protection and it still works. All the ads disappeared. Of course, you still have your user profile with your learning activities.You might want to look around the web for language-specific learning resources and do it without an app. Find yourself a grammar, a course, a description of the sounds and things to read and listen to (e.g. internet radio). Also, a learner's community.
(DIR) Post #ALi7dIOe3FJ9S5faD2 by hyde@lazybear.social
2022-07-21T08:29:42Z
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@gunchleoc Yeah I guess Books, and podcasts will be the way to go 😉
(DIR) Post #ALi7nGsSYQMTdWN7Ts by gunchleoc@mastodon.scot
2022-07-21T08:31:24Z
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@hyde For dictionaries, look here: https://multidict.net/
(DIR) Post #ALiA2cLZDHmsTVQqkC by hyde@lazybear.social
2022-07-21T08:56:41Z
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@gunchleoc Thanks ! I like the CLI dict also :)
(DIR) Post #ALiAqRFKl7EOWhGzOC by gunchleoc@mastodon.scot
2022-07-21T09:05:35Z
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@hyde You mean this one? https://github.com/cli-dictionary/cli-dictionaryThat looks good too, but the list of languages is still quite short.
(DIR) Post #ALiFzPK3mRZ4w9a0Lw by hyde@lazybear.social
2022-07-21T10:03:20Z
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@gunchleoc I was actually talking about this one :% apt show dict Package: dictVersion: 1.13.0+dfsg-1Priority: optionalSection: textSource: dictdMaintainer: Robert Luberda <robert@debian.org>Provides: dict-clientSuggests: dictd | dict-server, gawk, m4Homepage: https://sourceforge.net/projects/dict/It's an old one I've been using in the past
(DIR) Post #ALiHrTZ6K3Kjgdxcqu by hyde@lazybear.social
2022-07-21T10:24:19Z
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@dualhammers An alternative to learn a new language ... but, as I said, probably books and podcasts are the best options.
(DIR) Post #ALiHxZPxTYcZZkaf56 by pyre35@fosstodon.org
2022-07-21T10:25:26Z
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@hyde this is an interesting question. I love duolingo, mainly because the "funness" of it forces me to stay engaged more. On the other hand, their ads are driving me crazy (forcing you to "restart" the ad, hiding the ad play button in a hidden, hard to see spot), and now that I now their privacy practices suck (yeah, I honestly didn't care to look), I'm second guessing my decision :(
(DIR) Post #ALiHzCxRx4QKUs2Ko4 by hyde@lazybear.social
2022-07-21T10:25:44Z
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@byterhymer I'll check jisho.org but I do agree that nothing can replace your experience.
(DIR) Post #ALiIB5WJQld2u80ZKS by monsoonrains@mastodon.social
2022-07-21T01:06:53Z
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@byterhymer @hyde You're right. In terms of conversation, apps can't replace it.But my God. They absolutely speed up getting to grips with grammar and basic nuance. In 2 months I could read and write cyrillic and have innate senses for basic Ukrainian. And after this, I've no fear of Russian.Apps are undoubtedly a helpful assistant and I'd recommend them to anyone learning a language, but I'd also agree: try and seek out conversation with speakers too. If possible (it's not always).
(DIR) Post #ALiIB61rXSrkTyllVQ by hyde@lazybear.social
2022-07-21T10:27:51Z
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@monsoonrains @byterhymer I quite like the Anki flashcards system. The CLI app suggested by @gunchleoc looks cool : https://github.com/cli-dictionary/cli-dictionary
(DIR) Post #ALiIFpJ18vgS4236QK by fedor@mastodon.gamedev.place
2022-07-21T03:29:00Z
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@hyde Anki's community dictionaries might work as Duolingo alternative, used it like this for some time as well
(DIR) Post #ALiIFpw0nwsM0yIFCi by hyde@lazybear.social
2022-07-21T10:28:42Z
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@fedor I have to dig on this side. Thanks :)
(DIR) Post #ALiILJTOPQ0N4fWBnc by hyde@lazybear.social
2022-07-21T10:29:43Z
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@jrballesteros05 Maybe they did something there :)
(DIR) Post #ALiINrbKUcEbV2Rl6e by hyde@lazybear.social
2022-07-21T10:30:11Z
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@sotolf Oh great let me check that :)
(DIR) Post #ALiIsKX3UaE5unyWCe by hyde@lazybear.social
2022-07-21T10:35:41Z
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@pyre35 Librelingo looks alright ... just need to check languages already available :)
(DIR) Post #ALiTamVhpX5ayIB8XQ by locusfokee@mastodon.online
2022-07-21T12:35:44Z
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@hyde Despite of the privacy part, However I have used duolingo a little bit but wanna know your experience, define your experience, how good it is to teach a language without abstraction, I mean not just teaching by heart but actually understanding the language, maybe with the help of one to one mapping with the supporting language. I don't know if I could clearly put my question, please be calm :welp:
(DIR) Post #ALibYZKEgDoN8JGlaS by hyde@lazybear.social
2022-07-21T14:05:00Z
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@locusfokee I know Serbian, French, English. I did some German when I was kid in school, but not good enough there. I want to learn new, maybe improve German too and see ... The other were quite easy, because of parents, work and life in general.
(DIR) Post #ALj398lV5ge6EcgYi0 by pyre35@fosstodon.org
2022-07-21T19:14:09Z
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@hyde I'm mainly trying to learn portuguese right now but I should give Spanish a spin and see what happens :)
(DIR) Post #ALjEU9qXMgJ7AJGXS4 by lorendias@qoto.org
2022-07-21T21:21:12Z
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@pyre35 @hyde get a list of the top 100 most used words and start there is my suggestion
(DIR) Post #ALk6sFJO5jWgafhAyO by hyde@lazybear.social
2022-07-22T07:30:37Z
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@lorendias @pyre35 Indeed That's a start :)
(DIR) Post #ALk6zf42k6ZmUI3Pv6 by hyde@lazybear.social
2022-07-22T07:31:58Z
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@pyre35 Trying also portuguese ... But never did Spanish, German in school ... at least some words looks like French and that helps.
(DIR) Post #ALmjCxrsCxNqeshJ0i by pyre35@fosstodon.org
2022-07-23T13:49:35Z
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@lorendias @hyde yes and. I use anky daily to study top 100 and top 1000 words
(DIR) Post #ALnjjfcXGaRamO4vse by n8chz@queer.party
2022-07-24T01:30:09Z
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@hyde lang-8 is the least spammy language resource I know of. Good resource for working on translation skills. Write something in any language you wish and native speakers of that language will mercilessly proofread it. Pay it forward by proofreading stuff in your own language.
(DIR) Post #ALo3vh4rfpWNr9L8aW by hyde@lazybear.social
2022-07-24T05:16:29Z
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@n8chz Thanks I'll check it.
(DIR) Post #ALo4OJK74NnYaA7MeG by n8chz@queer.party
2022-07-24T05:21:38Z
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@hyde Oh fsck they paywalled it! My apologies.
(DIR) Post #ALo4Sa7Aa9u3ol6GlU by n8chz@queer.party
2022-07-24T05:22:25Z
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@hyde Oh fsck they trialwared it! My apologies.
(DIR) Post #ALo8PTPDT8oNxTJZK4 by hyde@lazybear.social
2022-07-24T06:06:41Z
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@n8chz Oh thanks anyway :)