Post ALTMMixgI7HjdGKy7U by Sprinklednights@social.anoxinon.de
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(DIR) Post #ALRIOGOKhHFNTCMVBg by digdeeper@mastodon.honeypot.im
2022-07-13T05:39:58Z
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If you have a website, company, or whatever - PLEASE provide an E-mail address to contact you. Do not hide it behind a form, real name requirement, captchas, Cloudflare, or other malicious barriers. And for the love of God, don't rely on social media platforms as the only way to reach you.It seems I can count on my two hands the websites I've seen who actually follow this seemingly common-sense guideline.
(DIR) Post #ALRO0lJ6hWZI815vLU by ryo@social.076.ne.jp
2022-07-13T06:43:07.237827Z
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@digdeeper Just wondering, why are contact forms bad?Because it's a well known fact that just putting your email address in plain sight is like inviting spambots to permanently flood your inbox, which is why contact forms exist.However, forms should be without barriers, and it's perfectly possible (and easier to implement than with barriers).
(DIR) Post #ALRP5LZptOjdjIfZWy by digdeeper@mastodon.honeypot.im
2022-07-13T06:55:04Z
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@ryo I can't use contact forms from within my email client.I had my bare email up on my contact page for months now, and only got a few spam mails. Mail clients also contain spam filtering, or you can do something like putting "at" instead of "@" to confuse bots (or separate lines or whatever).
(DIR) Post #ALRPsk0HrbHRg2avs8 by ryo@social.076.ne.jp
2022-07-13T07:04:01.017950Z
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@digdeeper > I can't use contact forms from within my email client.Well that's common sense.> I had my bare email up on my contact page for months now, and only got a few spam mails.Perhaps you're lucky then.I ran websites before that got very few views even since as early as the late 1990's/early 2000's.They all started getting flooded with spam after a couple months.> Mail clients also contain spam filteringNot sure if I'm willing to trust that, since quite a bit of legit emails can potentially filtered out as well.> you can do something like putting "at" instead of "@" to confuse botsI think you should use something different from "at", because that's so commonly used that the spambots have long figured that one out already.Many sites without mail forms here (which isn't very many) use "アットマーク" (at sign), but I'm pretty certain that one will be figured out as well as soon as people start dumping their forms for email links.And if you go down that route, it's also important to not make it into a hyperlink (mailto:someone@something.tld), or the whole mitigation with "at" or "アットマーク" will have no meaning at all.
(DIR) Post #ALRTMONz6OSLBGVe1w by udon@social.076.ne.jp
2022-07-13T07:21:02.334227Z
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@ryo @digdeeper How about linking your email address with an image? Or additionally add some noise to it like captchas.
(DIR) Post #ALRTMP0Go35560QDho by ryo@social.076.ne.jp
2022-07-13T07:43:01.467051Z
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@udon @digdeeper The very problem comes exactly from linking.A spambot can read what's inside of the "a href" tags.As for images with added noise, that's just annoying, I often fail at classic captcha's exactly for that reason.
(DIR) Post #ALRU5EmZebx8QZOXJo by udon@social.076.ne.jp
2022-07-13T07:50:58.550609Z
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@ryo @digdeeper My bad. I mean, just place an image version of the email address.
(DIR) Post #ALRUAE17vWCDVBa1Oy by udon@social.076.ne.jp
2022-07-13T07:51:57.600651Z
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@ryo @digdeeper Yes, linking it with href directly reveals the address and it breaks the purpose.
(DIR) Post #ALTMMixgI7HjdGKy7U by Sprinklednights@social.anoxinon.de
2022-07-14T05:33:59Z
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@digdeeper If you give me a RiseUp invite code, then I will make a contact E-mail.