Post ALKovPvz4DDC2Gvxho by wowaname@anime.website
 (DIR) More posts by wowaname@anime.website
 (DIR) Post #ALKlfhGmXxPLIxTTDU by Moon@shitposter.club
       2022-07-10T02:05:11.924514Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @mike @grischa spam ruined email, centralization was a reaction to spam
       
 (DIR) Post #ALKovNOaVPJGA7IGNE by grischa@brockha.us
       2022-06-12T10:06:55.955988Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @roblenJa, ich werde dann wohl auch mal einen Post machen, was ich wie und warum an #Pleroma umkonfiguriert habe.Aber erst mal Meta.. Ich hatte nämlich ein für mich interessantes Aha-Erlebnis bei meiner Sichtweise auf Peroma anfangs. Mir wurde deutlich, dass man nicht nur #Fediverse kompatibel sein will sondern auch #Mastodon kompatibel sein _muss_. Das lässt einen Nachdenken zum Thema Monopolbildung und ich fühlte mich ein wenig erinnert an die alten Geschichten der Browser Wars damals..
       
 (DIR) Post #ALKovNz6JeW5zMNQHo by fediverse_connection@mastodon.social
       2022-06-12T11:07:44Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @grischa @roblen #hubzilla / #Osada / #Zot woll(t)en ja sogar ganz weg von ActivityPub, wenn ich das richtig erinnere.
       
 (DIR) Post #ALKovOZG9DRLnVIIe8 by mike@unfediverse.com
       2022-06-12T21:54:33Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       These projects (Hubzilla, Zap, Streams, etc.) already have/had a protocol which is superior to ActivityPub in a number of ways, but which has not been "blessed" by a recognised standards body. The nice thing is that if a corporate player takes over the fediverse, we can just turn off ActivityPub and carry on with out it. We can also communicate in ways that cannot even be seen by the rest of the fediverse. I call it the "fediverse underground" for these reasons. We also use ActivityStreams so the data is exactly the same. Only the transport protocol is different. These projects mostly run on very small websites for family and friends and there are very few public instances.Streams is unique in that the name itself is a placeholder which is replaced by your own site once installed. We are firmly opposed to brand worship.
       
 (DIR) Post #ALKovP2KP8gzFetVxI by grischa@brockha.us
       2022-06-12T23:00:02.364662Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @mike"a corporate player takes over the fediverse".. Interesting topic. How do you think, that could happen?I am relatively new to all that but as far as I understand this is simply not possible? @fediverse_connection @roblen
       
 (DIR) Post #ALKovPXWX9e6oPUQa0 by mike@unfediverse.com
       2022-06-12T23:55:29Z
       
       2 likes, 4 repeats
       
       Internet history is full of decentralised and open source protocols/projects and even operating systems which were either taken over or reduced to irrelevance by corporations. If somebody thinks they can monetise open source, in the words of Steve Ballmer - "we'll just take it". Sometimes they'll just give the market leader a shitload of money to walk away. Sometimes they'll use "embrace, extend, extinguish" tactics. As the most poignant example, take email. You cannot run an email server today without Google's blessing and adherence to their rules. OK sure -  technically you can, but it won't federate outside a handful of small sites. This is how the game is played. What makes you think the fediverse is special?
       
 (DIR) Post #ALKovPvz4DDC2Gvxho by wowaname@anime.website
       2022-07-10T02:41:26.567290Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @mike @grischa google needs to be *more* strict on RFC compliance and security practices but they'll never do anything to improve open standards.
       
 (DIR) Post #ALKowTWlC2FdT9dkYK by wowaname@anime.website
       2022-07-10T02:41:55.734248Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @mike @grischa i run multiple mail servers and hate that i cant disable plaintext entirely
       
 (DIR) Post #ALL6jVaE2JyZFvEAaW by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2022-07-10T06:01:14.474107Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Moon @grischa @mike And now GMail/sendgrid/… are the biggest spammer of all.
       
 (DIR) Post #ALMLmhye6c332AasZk by LovesTha@floss.social
       2022-07-10T05:40:18Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @wowaname @grischa @mike Plaintext is the one you want to disable?
       
 (DIR) Post #ALMLmiUuAfqueDgdrE by wowaname@anime.website
       2022-07-10T20:24:36.574523Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @LovesTha @grischa @mike for smtp transit.
       
 (DIR) Post #ALMLsjfQjcty0sToY4 by wowaname@anime.website
       2022-07-10T20:25:42.751769Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @LovesTha @grischa @mike i only get a few emails from non-esmtp hosts but if i blocked them then i would already miss important stuff. i need to tell these postmasters to enable starttls/dane
       
 (DIR) Post #ALMkpm4JqcQ3Rjo2oy by LovesTha@floss.social
       2022-07-10T22:58:40Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @wowaname @grischa @mike Ahh, not plaintext emails :)