Post AL9mTHC6FpO5k6Zddg by udiWertheimer@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #9gOiIHRbm6zV4JiDPk by Gargron@mastodon.social
2018-03-10T23:04:15Z
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I've made a deliberate choice against a quoting feature because it inevitably adds toxicity to people's behaviours. You are tempted to quote when you should be replying, and so you speak at your audience instead of with the person you are talking to. It becomes performative. Even when doing it for "good" like ridiculing awful comments, you are giving awful comments more eyeballs that way. No quote toots. Thank's
(DIR) Post #9gOm19a29yrJZXk3pQ by m4iler@infosec.exchange
2019-03-03T15:51:51Z
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@Gargron >it inevitably adds toxicityJust for this sentence, I want to tell you to fuck off :-D
(DIR) Post #9ohzDrwvt9bCOPKnz6 by hg6@mstdn.social
2019-11-07T05:16:07Z
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@Gargron interesting point. Does make sense for sure.
(DIR) Post #9ojByJq9uuCgp62df6 by aliusmani@mstdn.social
2019-11-07T19:13:35Z
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@Gargron that's super cool really. Hate people quote tweeting with emojis instead of RTing on that birdsite
(DIR) Post #9ottfhqJFSbLg5UVuK by espectalll@mstdn.io
2018-03-10T23:09:30Z
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@Gargron Funny thing, I already can do the same in Mastodon: toot my message with a link to the original toot. I don't need to notify the author of the quoted toot, anyway.It may be not as visually clean, but it works.
(DIR) Post #9ottfiAW2KlSgkweP2 by carcinopithecus@x0r.be
2019-11-12T23:10:24Z
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@espectalll it's still better than including it because it makes it harder to prevent the casual observer from being forced to see the toot in its context, whereas in twitter that prevention is the unmarked default norm
(DIR) Post #9oujjr0qIAgQtOiVuq by espectalll@mstdn.io
2019-11-13T08:53:53Z
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@carcinopithecus consider the following: there's nothing preventing Mastodon from providing a "hide mentions" or "hide mention previews" option. And they could also be CW'd.
(DIR) Post #AIuCPShnz8BJmqtUFU by sandwich247@mastodon.scot
2022-04-28T10:15:46Z
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@Gargron I get you entirelyNot being able to give a little "you should check out this art that I think is really cool" makes me a bit sad, but then you can just make a toot after the boost and it's all good
(DIR) Post #AIuCPTIJnNO9c5yeA4 by matt@oslo.town
2022-04-28T10:43:18Z
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@sandwich247 @Gargron You could just copy the link to the original toot and paste it in your new toot, if you like. https://mastodon.scot/@sandwich247/108209173052228419
(DIR) Post #AIulHehazjk94ZoDYm by Karen5Lund@mastodon.social
2022-04-28T17:14:08Z
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@espectalll @Gargron It used to be that way on the birdsite, too. Doing so required a tiny bit of thought and effort--enough to consider whether this was really the best way to respond to a toot/tweet. Sometimes it's worth it, other times not. Doing it automatically makes it just a little too easy. Eugen is right about this... even when it makes more work for me.
(DIR) Post #AIvEdIzTIQWWmDqVUG by emacsen@emacsen.net
2022-04-28T22:12:55Z
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@Gargron > inevitably adds toxicity to people's behavioursThe word "inevitably" tells me this isn't true, and my own use of quote tweets, and the people I follow on Twitter using Quote tweets shows how important they are.You can certainly decide what you like and don't like on your own platform, but please don't make statements which are demonstrably false.
(DIR) Post #AIvEdJaL5M0wcZ5wx6 by mpjgregoire@mamot.fr
2022-04-28T22:33:35Z
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@emacsen It could be inevitable as a general phenomenon, but evitable in specific cases — like the connection between smoking and lung cancer.Apparently the creators of the quote-tweet have had second thoughts: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/alexkantrowitz/how-the-retweet-ruined-the-internet(Via https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/how-to-fix-twitter?s=w )@Gargron
(DIR) Post #AIvEetCIAL0bMMb84m by polarisera@gleasonator.com
2022-04-28T22:43:23.063813Z
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I never thought about it that way.
(DIR) Post #AIvFJAiYRdUPHVteXA by emacsen@emacsen.net
2022-04-28T22:49:02Z
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@mpjgregoire @Gargron @mpjgregoire I want to argue about the words @Gargron used, but let's move on to content.The challenge with quote-tweets not being available is that they are useful as a mechanism for contextualizing, and that alone can be used for good, or ill.Can it be used for toxic behavior? Yes, but I'd like to see more about why this idea of inevitability comes from, and I'd like this discussion without absolutism or rhetoric, hence my frustration.
(DIR) Post #AIvFSsSlAcYLYr8XUe by croydon@mastodon.social
2022-04-28T01:59:33Z
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@Gargron I like the idea, but I'm not sure if this upholds in practice. Many people taking and posting screenshots of the messages they indirectly replying to, even on platforms that have a quote feature. Maybe people will use that even more often on Mastodon to workaround the missing quote feature.
(DIR) Post #AIvFXoqm1ta7nwj2PI by Carlo_Misiak@mastodon.social
2022-04-28T07:22:15Z
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@Gargron 😎 I tried hard, but I could not resist ...
(DIR) Post #AIvFcs6XMFAbLTVXvs by emacsen@emacsen.net
2022-04-28T22:53:21Z
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@mpjgregoire @Gargron I'll go one step further... Its function to separate a discussion from the original author can often be important.In the case of hate speech, it's quite common for an antisemite to post something, for a Jew to reply, then get blocked.Quote tweets allow someone to have a discussion separate from the author. That's the context I see it most in.If there's another mechanism we can use for similar interactions, please, please show me!Do we need to use screenshots?
(DIR) Post #AIvFozIYRA0v8DuFQe by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2022-04-28T22:56:19.978424Z
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@emacsen @mpjgregoire @Gargron Also going to address the elephant in the bathroom: Screenshots means the accessibility is heavily broken (specially as img alt attributes are supposed to be short).Email style quotes would probably be better.
(DIR) Post #AIvGmhrIPFT2Q0dGXw by jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
2022-04-28T08:45:59Z
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@Gargron If only we had email-like or BBS-like or even chat-like quoting so that people understand what precisely you're replying to. Like we've been doing non-performatively for decades before ActivityPub was even a thing.But I guess we have @Chartodon to make sense of the messy threads that reply only and limited toot sizes produce.My ghast is flabbered at this take, to be honest.
(DIR) Post #AIvGmid9XJkSoR1U8m by jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
2022-04-28T08:50:21Z
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@Gargron Because what this basically says is "I don't trust users to employ a feature sensibly that's pretty standard in many different context, so I'm not providing it".
(DIR) Post #AIvGmjQmYnRnIMF7Uu by ColinTheMathmo@mathstodon.xyz
2022-04-28T09:18:49Z
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@jens Although I do observe that while good and decent users make excellent use of features offered, there are always those who act in bad faith. The sad truth is that while we can trust the vast majority of users, we cannot trust them all, and some features can and will amplify the bad actors.Decisions have to be made, a balance must be struck, and no choice is perfect.You can see exactly what someone is replying to in the web interface by clicking on the post and seeing ...1/n@Gargron
(DIR) Post #AIvGmkBDm8atcNyCsi by ColinTheMathmo@mathstodon.xyz
2022-04-28T09:21:06Z
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@jens ... the immediate parent.Then back out and click on another post. You are effectively traversing the tree that Chartodon makes explicit.I agree with many of your points, but the situation is nuanced.I suspect a more careful, relaxed, and broader discussion would be useful and helpful, but that won't happen for any one of several reasons.2/n, n=2@Gargron
(DIR) Post #AIvGmky8qFj446rH8K by ColinTheMathmo@mathstodon.xyz
2022-04-28T09:25:28Z
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@jens Reading the entire thread shows just how divisive this is, and just how adamant people are.Having seen how it has been abused by a small but very vocal and abusing minority, I think the "no-quoting" stance is a reasonable choice.
(DIR) Post #AIvGmlntjp7sed4bo0 by jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
2022-04-28T15:50:37Z
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@ColinTheMathmo Even if I assume a nuanced decision was made here, which may well be the case, it still means that the majority of users get their features essentially dictated by a minority of bad actors. I can't really see this as a good precedent for how to handle such folk.
(DIR) Post #AIvGmmQXQA2CaT9T28 by ColinTheMathmo@mathstodon.xyz
2022-04-28T16:13:26Z
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@jens I've drafted this several times & still can't get the right tone. Please take this in the spirit intended.I've seen the feature badly abused on Twitter, & frankly I'm relieved & pleased that it's not available on Mastodon.I don't really understand the argument against the current choice.This is s/ware that someone has produced, so we either use it as it is, or fork/clone, adapt, & make it available. When people provide software it's *always* they who decide what's implemented.1/n
(DIR) Post #AIvGmn2T98NMU6tl9k by ColinTheMathmo@mathstodon.xyz
2022-04-28T16:18:33Z
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@jens So we might just have to agree to disagree. There are people on both sides of the fence, and I have no doubt that the argument will continue, but I don't see a lot of value in it. I can't adapt the software, complaining about won't change anything because in this context I'm a nobody and no one will listen, so I use it as it is.2/2
(DIR) Post #AIvGmnZn9F1y9SUN60 by jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
2022-04-28T16:44:30Z
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@ColinTheMathmo It's alright, I'm probably shorter than I need to be as well.Quoting is, to me, a fundamental aspect of social interaction, online or elsewhere. It has evolved as a feature, but the specific version employed mostly by social media is to embed the original posting in one's own response. I do not consider this to be a good implementation.It's kind of difficult when mastodon positions itself as a twitter clone of sorts to treat quoting as anything different from..
(DIR) Post #AIvGmoD8mwVS7UtnQe by jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
2022-04-28T16:47:16Z
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@ColinTheMathmo ... twitter-like forms, but such forms have a rich history starting with print, email, BBS, and chat systems. They permit more long form discussions with point to point replies that are significantly easier to track than a tree of short replies.What I don't understand is why we have to a) let twitter dictate the hobbled version of quoting that we're discusdiong, and b) why we have to let the minority that abuse it dictate how we interact here. Neither computes.
(DIR) Post #AIvGmozhsNM2Y7ca80 by jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
2022-04-28T16:50:30Z
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@ColinTheMathmo Because fundamentally abuse is a social, cultural problem, not a technological one. Why we should expect technology to fix our culture of interaction is truly beyond me. Worse, when the specific way this happens is to restrict a form of interaction with a rich history to it's most simplistic form, and then decide that is flawed. That's a truism.
(DIR) Post #AIvGmpX1sU0eDTDC4G by ColinTheMathmo@mathstodon.xyz
2022-04-28T09:25:56Z
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Calling @Chartodon ...(This may take sometime ... )@jens
(DIR) Post #AIvGmpchXOXwV3riuO by jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
2022-04-28T16:53:44Z
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@ColinTheMathmo I'm fine with agreeing to disagree, for what it's worth. But the argument is basically the same as that against arguing with trolls (I paraphrase), in that they drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. It feels that the maintainers here decided to force the entire community to concede the space to the trolls. Why?
(DIR) Post #AIvGmqEHHgbWNbRjTk by ColinTheMathmo@mathstodon.xyz
2022-04-28T17:08:32Z
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@jens Too much to unpack here, I don't have time. I disagree with a lot of your specifics, but most importantly:> What I don't understand is why we have to ... let the minority that abuse it dictate how we interact here.If you listen to the groups that are often the victims of wide-spread targetted harassment, they say that the quote-tweet is one of the tools most often abused.1/n
(DIR) Post #AIvGmr1uJAIqrWfMps by jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
2022-04-28T17:54:22Z
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@ColinTheMathmo I've also been harrassed with quoting. You don't have to be in s minority to suffer that. Which brings me to the social issue again; I refused to back down, engaged the help of others, and ultimately shut my attacker up.That's generally how you deal with bullies.It's a bit of a side track, and I agree that this avenue isn't immediately open to everyone. I also agree that we should offer alternatives that avoid the harassment. We could discuss that.
(DIR) Post #AIvGmrldZ8sn9M3t7A by downey@floss.social
2022-04-28T22:19:29Z
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@jens Imagine if industry decided to stop making cameras because people used them to do bad things ... think of all the art that would be lost.
(DIR) Post #AIvGmsCZwyQwUufP6m by ColinTheMathmo@mathstodon.xyz
2022-04-28T17:09:01Z
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@jens It's *always* the minority that spoil it, and yet society as a whole takes steps to prevent what can be prevented. We don't say "Oh, burglars are in the minority, but it's more convenient to leave our houses and cars unlocked, so let's not bother with the expense of locks, etc." No, we make it more difficult for that minority. It doesn't fully prevent it, it comes at a cost, but it's a balance.> Fundamentally abuse is a social, cultural problem, not a technological one.Agreed.2/n
(DIR) Post #AIvGmt7eWm5TLvMz4K by jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
2022-04-28T17:55:09Z
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@ColinTheMathmo But no such path has been taken here in a top-down, restrictive measure.I find that immensely disappointing.
(DIR) Post #AIvGmuJk5JLt3i29YG by ColinTheMathmo@mathstodon.xyz
2022-04-28T17:10:16Z
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@jens> Why we should expect technology to fix our culture of interaction is truly beyond me.It's not trying to fix it, it's choosing for some capabilities to refuse to hand them to those who would misuse them.> It feels that the maintainers here decided to force the entire community to concede the space to the trolls. Why?I believe it's the opposite, it's making it harder for trolls to operate. That's not conceding the space to them, it's trying to protect the space from them3/n, n=3
(DIR) Post #AL9mTHC6FpO5k6Zddg by udiWertheimer@mastodon.social
2018-08-16T14:55:05Z
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@Gargron*takes screenshot**pastes in new toot*Pfft what a tool
(DIR) Post #AL9mWDePsuBBcdDp2m by a_breakin_glass@cybre.space
2018-03-10T23:18:24Z
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@gargron people'll just screenshot anyway, and at least with quote toots someone KNOWS what's being said about them; with screenshots, it's all behind the back
(DIR) Post #AL9mWNhGXAOsmMdEsC by cbeams@bitcoinhackers.org
2018-08-16T17:18:50Z
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@Gargron thanks for clarifying your position on this. In my experience operating my own personal and professional project Twitter accounts, I have found quoting to be an indispensably useful tool. Particularly in the professional context, my usage of the feature is entirely constructive.Under what conditions would you reconsider the implementation of quote toots? If a correct PR were put together by others than yourself? If that PR had overwhelming support by Mastodon users?
(DIR) Post #AL9mt0MXSMSV4Mizqq by billyjoebowers@mastodon.online
2022-04-28T02:02:49Z
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@Gargron I always use quote tweets to explain why I'm retweeting, or to praise something. Most people that are talking shit screenshot and then comment. Which is still possible here. The negative option is here, the positive one isn't.
(DIR) Post #AL9nz3xz4OGdwFgySe by vonubelgarten@mastodon.sdf.org
2022-04-28T23:00:06Z
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@jens @Gargron @Chartodon AFAIK Misskey has a feature that unfurls fedi URLs so the post looks like a quote while keeping compatibility with clients and instances that don't understand this. Wondering if some Mastodon fork also has this.
(DIR) Post #AL9o1wO1hyrbIZFHlY by jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
2022-04-28T17:44:02Z
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@ColinTheMathmo Look how you're quoting me to keep this readable. I could rest my case here, no?For the sake of completeness, I'll give a few other responses.
(DIR) Post #AL9o1wrRwaOolp0mcy by ColinTheMathmo@mathstodon.xyz
2022-04-28T17:45:43Z
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@jens But that's *my* point. I *can*quote you, but doing so like this is not abused by trolls. So it makes my case that allowing quote-tweets/quote-boosts makes it easier for trolls and harassers, but without the Q-T/Q-B capability people who want to use it constructively can still do so.
(DIR) Post #AL9o1xJSGSniAg79HM by jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
2022-04-28T17:56:14Z
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@ColinTheMathmo So your argument is that it should be hard to do something badly, instead of working on the netiquette?
(DIR) Post #AL9o1xmsV4Kvdvse8m by clacke@libranet.de
2022-04-28T18:11:43Z
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@jens @ColinTheMathmo That's how nudging works. Give people freedom, but make it easy to do the right thing, and hard to do the wrong thing.
(DIR) Post #AL9o1yCkwr2KwBzJTc by jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
2022-05-01T09:53:50Z
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@clacke @ColinTheMathmo Right, but this decision isn't making good choices easy. It's making all choices harder.
(DIR) Post #AL9o20ExNdz9Fb26BU by jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
2022-04-28T18:28:58Z
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@ColinTheMathmo Sorry, that was between other stuff going on and very much not the right tone. I don't mean this badly.It was just supposed to illustrate that we have things like moderation tools, and have examples of better quoting mechanisms, and could flag things as unquotable, etc,etc. We have choices.I have a really hard time with any argument that, exaggeratedly summarised, says to screw those choices in favour of doing less.That's what I mean by conceding the space.
(DIR) Post #AL9o3xJlDWiwlXD8yG by clacke@libranet.de
2022-05-06T10:40:47Z
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Manual quote tweet:> lorem ipsum francis baconhttp://social.example.com/@theuser/1234thetoot1234
(DIR) Post #AL9o3xntPUpKGzJCwC by clacke@libranet.de
2022-05-06T10:47:09Z
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If Mastodon didn't filter it out we could even use the HTML quote element instead of angle brackets.
(DIR) Post #AL9o88L8BAiI6mqOZ6 by cy@mstdn.io
2022-05-07T19:45:36Z
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@spyro>implying we can't quote things anyway, then laugh at the butthurt who cripple their own clients and refuse to format it>"I hate quoting because it adds toxicity also I am a stupid dumbhead" - eugen, probably
(DIR) Post #AP2LVDdrzNBW36wQOO by umrath@mastodon.social
2022-04-28T05:51:41Z
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@Gargron Understandable choice.Still, I think it's wrong.Preventing users from something they want to do by technical means will not change the culture.What you will get is exactly the behaviour that you had on Twitter: People just quote anyway and do it manually. The extra effort is certainly worth the benefit.So, essentially you are only annoying the users with some extra effort without preventing anything.
(DIR) Post #AP2LVE7eCf0JXSsCo4 by herag@dobbs.town
2022-10-28T20:15:38Z
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@umrathBut this difference is, Gargron doesn't have to encourage bad behavior by enabling it as a 'feature'. People can still do what they want, if they want, but he doesn't have to worry or think about it. @Gargron
(DIR) Post #AP2OmE3E1Nqc6RbOHw by neglesaks@mstdn.io
2022-10-28T20:52:20Z
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@Gargron I agree.
(DIR) Post #AP3iR4UUYzAWc2VRTc by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2022-10-29T12:07:20.387111Z
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@Gargron Get gassed.
(DIR) Post #AP3kY8Z4119XBN8pm4 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2022-10-29T12:31:01.361130Z
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@Ricotta @Gargron at least this was a reply instead of a quote w
(DIR) Post #AP3kq4qYZpsOrdsVQO by moth@husk.site
2022-10-29T12:34:16.492811Z
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@Gargron Genuinely good take.
(DIR) Post #AP3oFrCWEZ3nvz8RYe by Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com
2022-10-29T13:12:33.369112Z
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@Gargron >Gargron with a based take...What the fuck?Is this a Halloween trick?
(DIR) Post #AP3oLSX4ragdAEQGHI by Awoo@bae.st
2022-10-29T13:13:33.735127Z
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@Gargron @Zerglingman A broken clock is right twice a day.But yeah quote function is retarded. @Gargron
(DIR) Post #AP41AS8BJa1m8ZrMdk by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-10-29T15:37:11.890Z
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@Gargron@mastodon.social x do what Mastodon't
(DIR) Post #AP4M4UmwcTZhgAvX6m by earthling42@mastodon.social
2022-10-28T19:10:30Z
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@Gargron I see the intention behind it but still it is some way to control how people use communication and the fact that it has ben misused often does not purely justify to solely abandon it. and yes - I also used it to speak to "may audience" often - but mostly to prove some posts wrong with adding facts directly to the related postsometimes it was to agree on posts by adding additional information to it and/or reactions which gave also the original poster more valuejust my 2 cents
(DIR) Post #AP4M7yympJOIBS82YS by shoq@mastodon.social
2022-10-29T02:12:49Z
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@Gargron Respectfully, that feels as if it's based on a very early perception of quoting. It's now mostly used for highlighting and previewing something we want to talk about or comment about which the follower can see adjacent to your remark at a glance. And the engagement they generate is are far larger than mere replies, likes or RTs of something (which are not visible to the follower unless they focus to inspect them).
(DIR) Post #AP4M95MYZwoEGrlz2u by robreed@mastodon.social
2022-10-29T02:41:40Z
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@Gargron Fwiw I always saw it as a way to credit the original post while staying out of the reply thread. A way to use the original as a jumping off point for a new post, maybe tangential, without hijacking the discussion or being argumentative. I understand how it can be co-opted but it doesn’t seem especially geared toward abuse. I don’t see it as a “problem” that’s it’s not here, but…
(DIR) Post #AP4M9T1oaiThfUFl32 by rodan@chudbuds.lol
2022-10-29T12:18:15.061220Z
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Nigger
(DIR) Post #APAvI7FWYYmjbm6Og4 by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2022-11-01T22:41:52Z
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Que grande @Gargron!"Tomé una decisión deliberada contra la función de citar porque inevitablemente agrega toxicidad a los comportamientos de las personas. Estás tentado a citar cuando deberías estar respondiendo, por lo que hablas a tu audiencia en lugar de a la persona con la que estás hablando. Se vuelve performativo. Incluso cuando lo haces por "bien", como ridiculizar comentarios horribles, de esa manera estás dando más atención a los comentarios horribles. Sin comillas. Gracias"
(DIR) Post #APJvMtL6MYYe2dRjjE by shoq@mastodon.social
2022-11-05T19:02:46Z
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@Gargron But quoting IS replying. It's simply including the thing being referred to so people don't have to seek it. A bare reply is often ignored. If someone wants to abuse, they will, but I've never see it done by serious people. Perhaps we can have this debate on a #tag to see my point. I'm fairly confident most Twitter alums will agree.#QuotedPostsOnMastodon
(DIR) Post #APJvMuw0QpfizNiitE by shoq@mastodon.social
2022-11-05T20:27:11Z
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@Gargron As this image should make clear, whether @BarackObama, @kathygriffin, or @ifilljustice, serious users know that quoted tweets is an important tool for sharing via social networks. #QuotedPostsOnMastodon
(DIR) Post #APJvMv0y8NdrEm2gcq by shoq@mastodon.social
2022-11-06T00:36:25Z
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If someone replies to a tagged item, it would be great if the tag could be automatically inserted into the reply.
(DIR) Post #APKFuG2ky6zv633MVE by adam@social.librem.one
2022-11-06T11:37:45Z
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@Gargron Good decision! Agree! I like that the instance I'm on doesn't even have DMs which means less private toxicity, too.
(DIR) Post #APOh7vv5S399t6Ngie by inklings@mastodon.world
2022-11-08T15:01:35Z
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@Gargron Twitter’s algorithm gave weight to quote tweets, and users got hooked on the practice.No need for it here.
(DIR) Post #APOpjB3Mwn2VAhWd96 by straw@rdrama.cc
2022-11-08T16:37:59.333506Z
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@Gargron
(DIR) Post #APPl7a51FGUr7y4f5c by nigga_tyreese@poa.st
2022-11-09T03:21:05.129083Z
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@Gargron Eat shit nigglet.
(DIR) Post #APPn6TK15OZNmogikS by judgedread@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-09T03:43:18.226612Z
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@Gargron I hate quote posts on fedi where the quote is loaded from another instance. To get them to render you have to increase your attack surface by allowing javascript to run. Not gonna happen on my devices, any sketchy weirdo can set up an instance as a machine fingerprinting trap.
(DIR) Post #AQiGC6UnOKvOUVrOhk by ahmad@bassam.social
2022-12-17T23:23:13.758254Z
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Now that's why we have pleroma and yet better, we have soapbox-fe. Because we need freedom, not another Elon.
(DIR) Post #AR36UmnnusgZh2BBuS by ShaniKom@mstdn.ca
2022-12-28T00:31:29Z
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@Gargron Good points. I didn't realize how quote tweets created this sort of toxicity until I came here.