Post AL0qM7NGLiZdnTg716 by Perramas@social.quodverum.com
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 (DIR) Post #AGqUO7opwXGT5JMlXc by Elaines2cents@social.quodverum.com
       2022-02-25T20:01:52Z
       
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       @YoungBlood Seriously, what game is Biden actually playing? So far we've seen little to nothing that impacts Russia in any significant way. Biden's acting like he's scared of Putin. I'm beginning to think these rumors that Putin can personally crush Biden have some truth to them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AGqW8kN32Zr5vTAAmO by Perramas@social.quodverum.com
       2022-02-25T20:21:30Z
       
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       @Elaines2cents @YoungBlood Removing Russia from swift would do nothing to Russia and only harm the US. China has setup an alternate system to swift and are waiting on the US to start kicking other Nations out of SWIFT so they can replace the PetroDollar with the PetroYuanhttps://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/foreign-trade/india-russia-china-explore-alternative-to-swift-payment-mechanism/articleshow/72048472.cms
       
 (DIR) Post #AGqX6EiVrEN181ZOG8 by Elaines2cents@social.quodverum.com
       2022-02-25T20:32:15Z
       
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       @Perramas @YoungBlood Please explain how this 'hurts' the US when Russia is already using the alternative SPFS system and at the time of your article, had over 400 users?  Seems to me they've more than accomplished what they have wanted to in the past 5 years they've had to work on it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AGqXPuAfxKCrCN7atc by Perramas@social.quodverum.com
       2022-02-25T20:35:49Z
       
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       @Elaines2cents @YoungBlood How does it hurt? By Russia and China publicly proclaiming it as an alternative to SWIFT and Freedom from US sanctions and interference.. Brazil, Inida, China, and Iran already have trade agreements. Kicking out Russia will do nothing to Russia. The best that could happen by kicking Russia out is nothing. Why risk making SWIFT obsolete while accomplishing nothing.
       
 (DIR) Post #AGqYI3re8KFWtm2oRU by Elaines2cents@social.quodverum.com
       2022-02-25T20:45:36Z
       
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       @Perramas @YoungBlood You still haven't explained why this would hurt the US. If Russia is forced to only use the SPFS system, that they've already created, how does that harm the US?  Are you saying if Russia can't play any longer, that all the other users will follow Russia and leave the US standing with no one else on the playground?Seems to me with that train of though, Russia can pick up their toys and go home anytime they want. Why haven't they done that already?
       
 (DIR) Post #AGqYoxmXlgIfahLXiC by Perramas@social.quodverum.com
       2022-02-25T20:51:33Z
       
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       @Elaines2cents @YoungBlood By getting more and more contrives to drop SWIFT and joiun CHINAS CIPS system. This isnt the SPFS it is the China version CIPS
       
 (DIR) Post #AGqb0Geo89i1E1FJq4 by Elaines2cents@social.quodverum.com
       2022-02-25T21:15:59Z
       
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       @Perramas @YoungBlood Paywall. Here's a link that's not. And  you're still not answering my question. HOW does this hurt the US? Let's assume Russia gets kicked out. Runs over to CIPS. HOW exactly does that hurt the US? https://www.treasuryandrisk.com/2021/09/23/growth-for-chinas-fledgling-cross-border-payments-system/?slreturn=20220125160528
       
 (DIR) Post #AL0qM7NGLiZdnTg716 by Perramas@social.quodverum.com
       2022-06-30T11:23:32Z
       
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       @Elaines2cents @YoungBlood Do you understand how now? https://www.reuters.com/business/exclusive-indias-top-cement-maker-paying-russian-coal-chinese-yuan-2022-06-29/