Post AKNPPMGXYUyxLjIMLo by slowfallinward@ihatebeinga.live
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 (DIR) Post #AKMct8pr9sFmd5O0Js by slowfallinward@ihatebeinga.live
       2022-06-11T01:43:51.554648Z
       
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       there's just no way i can see some of these FF UI changes as anything but a psyopthe "downloads" menu now hides by default if it's empty, and you have to go to about:config to fix download behavior to actually, you know, download all files to a path of your choice the first time instead of doing retarded shit when pdfs are involved. who wants this? who is bothered by this tiny icon? why is compact mode gone?
       
 (DIR) Post #AKMdFyngdNseAPGGWm by slowfallinward@ihatebeinga.live
       2022-06-11T01:45:42.428032Z
       
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       Modern "UX" is now so transparently about manipulating patterns of behavior *from* users, even in cases where it makes no fucking sense, rather than adapting the UI to the existing use pattern
       
 (DIR) Post #AKMdirLxOysdT33uSW by yes@social.handholding.io
       2022-06-11T01:53:32.107069Z
       
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       user eXecution
       
 (DIR) Post #AKMdqGBtSEYmWksqzw by yes@social.handholding.io
       2022-06-11T01:54:49.252341Z
       
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       snif that d+ native ad fox butthole fam, that way mozilla gets mo monnies to make firefox gooder.
       
 (DIR) Post #AKMeHn0DZMUS6rY8I4 by bajax@bajax.us
       2022-06-11T01:59:51.353943Z
       
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       @slowfallinward they keep changing things so people can't adapt and become proficient with the system. They think its their job to make things "easier" when we might be better off if they stopped """innovating """ several revisions ago.But software people are high on the idea that it's their job to "fix" things, that the aoftware can change, rather than the people. This is kind of tangent to your original point, but it just speaks to the mentality of these people. They think their job is to take us by the hand and walk us through the one "correct" thing we should be doing rather than provising versatile tools.
       
 (DIR) Post #AKMeqzccdtiTNqIc5Y by slowfallinward@ihatebeinga.live
       2022-06-11T02:04:56.885778Z
       
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       @bajax I'm not even sure I could attribute it to egotism, it feels like creating dependence and discouraging reasoning about what the software is doing is an intentional goal
       
 (DIR) Post #AKMf0wPrPt7QKw4dMG by bajax@bajax.us
       2022-06-11T02:08:00.837812Z
       
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       @slowfallinward I don't think it's egotism either mind you, it's just their unexamined kneejerk reaction... when a problem happens, you fix it. It's the same process of software development extended to the end user.
       
 (DIR) Post #AKMfIiVzq4oeR5Q5uy by idiot@shitposter.club
       2022-06-11T02:11:13.951164Z
       
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       @yes @slowfallinward >Thank you for your donation.>"Make firefox gooder"?>I thought I said "thank you for your donation," didn't I?
       
 (DIR) Post #AKMfaLnV2dG5Bt10Rk by yes@social.handholding.io
       2022-06-11T02:14:24.479056Z
       
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       >racism line goes down>firefox is gooder line go up haha
       
 (DIR) Post #AKMfsmaaAZ4nUolKV6 by idiot@shitposter.club
       2022-06-11T02:17:44.883802Z
       
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       @yes @slowfallinward The mister robutt and funny menstruation panda kickbacks are helping, I'm sure. Helping which line? Yes.
       
 (DIR) Post #AKNPKzwKcYO6wrlPMm by Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com
       2022-06-11T10:47:04.738443Z
       
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       @slowfallinward >FFLynx supremacy. Make the web great again.But maybe you would be interested in palemoon, waterfox, etc., because they are specifically "firefox that stopped changing shit".
       
 (DIR) Post #AKNPLrqWCNp88TSWno by Amikke@qoto.org
       2022-06-11T03:20:16Z
       
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       @slowfallinward I’m pretty sure this autohide has been a feature for a long time. (And it makes sense, you generally only want the downloads list when you download something.) As for weird shit, that’s the generic browser behaviour, whenencountering a file it will display it if it knows how, or try to download it otherwise. Chrome does the same, displays the PDF, webm, image, whatever, with an option to download it instead of presenting a download dialogue immediately .
       
 (DIR) Post #AKNPLsCqrLgjFjuMc4 by slowfallinward@ihatebeinga.live
       2022-06-11T08:29:58.221898Z
       
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       @Amikke -It does not make sense for elements of the UI (that free no meaningful real estate) to disappear after they were configured to be there.-I was being imprecise on purpose. improvements_to_download_panel does not do what you describe -- instead it instantly autodownloads any PDF you open, rather first saves it to disk without asking you where, then opens it, then lets you save it to a location you actually choose via pdf.js. Thankfully this can be flipped off in about:config right now (though I find lies from mozilla support that it can't be reverted if I search for the setting). I don't think I have to elaborate on why anyone who wants to deny people the ability to open a pdf without saving it is a fucking idiot.
       
 (DIR) Post #AKNPLuDHOjDdTe7jYe by slowfallinward@ihatebeinga.live
       2022-06-11T08:37:58.311535Z
       
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       @Amikke err, wording on the second bit is a bit weird, I just woke up -- the behavior is to instantly autodownload the pdf to a persistent location, then open it, and only then allow you to pick a location to save it via pdf.js
       
 (DIR) Post #AKNPN8EekVThFvLuFs by slowfallinward@ihatebeinga.live
       2022-06-11T08:31:09.797744Z
       
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       @Amikke about:config itself is a fun study -- changes to it used to be persistent without having to have a user.js.......
       
 (DIR) Post #AKNPPMGXYUyxLjIMLo by slowfallinward@ihatebeinga.live
       2022-06-11T08:45:36.354420Z
       
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       @Amikke My general point is that the browser (like all software) should be obedient, and that that concern should come before literally any of this. If I configure a setting, that setting should be unconditionally,  instantly, and indefinitely manifest in the browser's behavior
       
 (DIR) Post #AKNQgisEquW0LOlwB6 by stefan@fedi.lightnovel-dungeon.de
       2022-06-11T04:01:44.099413Z
       
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       @slowfallinward They hide the downloads menu now? For real :blobfoxannoyed: I think it is really useful to have it in the adressbar and always visible. If I download something I need less clicks to open something that way compared to say edge. Why is firefox almost exclusively doing dumb stuff lately? :vlpn_exhausted:
       
 (DIR) Post #AKNQgjEZVsNbSfDlzM by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-06-11T11:02:11.206435Z
       
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       @stefan @slowfallinward > Why is firefox almost exclusively doing dumb stuff lately? I have to agree with OP, it's genuine, actual malice. they know most people won't care or notice, and the small amount of people who do won't be meaningful to them, they know those users block ads.. mozilla is acting as a business, not a nonprofit, and it forgot about privacy, ethics, UX/UI design, and actively changes the names, locations, functions, or existence of settings, labels them confusingly with a double-negative **and** a double-positive, or simply gouges out functionality that people rely on, but tbh apple does it, google does it, ms does it, and they simply taught mozilla how to play ball with them and collect data for their hive mind. it's going to end with mozilla crumbling and the only browser left will be chromium derivatives (all collecting data for google mind you, same as mozilla)anyway, in short, firefox is adware now, that's why
       
 (DIR) Post #AKNTythzbj4l1SL0DY by stefan@fedi.lightnovel-dungeon.de
       2022-06-11T11:35:37.681115Z
       
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       @coyote I mean firefox tends to annoy me with other shit as well, like when updating being like: "Yo please restart to use firefox again". Who thought this to be a good idea? I want to decide for myself when I want to restart. Being like windows certainly is not a plus. You know I like to update my linux in the background and have all the changes applied next bootup. Which I might not do immediately, but maybe a few hours later. Librewolf also is not a real alternative for me out of the box. I would have to tweak some stuff to make it usuable for me, which I don't really want to do. But I can't even use stuff like senfcall out of the box since it doesn't like webRTC or something. Also it forcing sites to be english annoys me to hell and back. Some services I run are available in multiple languages, they select by some browser-stuff (likely some user-agent?). Librewolf always makes stuff appear in english... Some tweaking could fix that but I am kinda lazy. Maybe I will just start to use some webkit based stuff like konquerer or something
       
 (DIR) Post #AKNU4lFXyCbWWdpQPo by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-06-11T11:40:09.924439Z
       
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       @stefan I'm considering webkit too.. Yeah any new Firefox "feature" is just an anti-pattern now