Post AKKETe6PV1XOrCWFLE by Volpit@fosstodon.org
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(DIR) Post #AKKBWvyxBCfpJfuKzw by kev@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T21:28:10Z
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I use Atom. Shit.https://github.blog/2022-06-08-sunsetting-atom/
(DIR) Post #AKKBe7N7EPPcfTdPwO by kev@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T21:29:28Z
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Also, why is the text on the GitHub blog so small it’s almost unreadable…
(DIR) Post #AKKBiflJJMKEUB7inw by indieishere@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T21:30:18Z
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@kev Crap, so do I!
(DIR) Post #AKKBpBfFc1WnANOaRs by techaddressed@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T21:31:29Z
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@kev I said the same thing yesterday.
(DIR) Post #AKKBwabvGEayYyMuUC by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-06-09T21:32:45Z
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@kev me too. Sadly, this is what happens with corporate "open source" which is created purely to grease the wheels of a business. Now it's been sold to Microsoft, and as with almost everything they acquire, they're busy dismantling the good things about it. Never ever trust a corporation. Luckily, when it comes to coding tools, in the #FOSS world, we're spoiled for good choices. (and no, MSFT Visual Studio Code isn't one of them - it's not even open source)
(DIR) Post #AKKByCHqfPxLhfkI52 by kev@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T21:33:02Z
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@david I’ll probably use VSCode.
(DIR) Post #AKKBydsI629LGW0H8C by mike@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T21:33:11Z
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@kev Me too. It's GitHub integration makes the workflow for editing my site super easy. I like it better than VSCode. VSCode just feels too heavy for my usage. Pretty disappointed by this. I guess I'll just kludge together some scripts to automate new post creation and move everything back to vim.
(DIR) Post #AKKBzcRot4Dj855Uq8 by kev@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T21:33:18Z
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@indieishere what are you planning on switching to?
(DIR) Post #AKKC1EOPIIuP6SGBP6 by kev@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T21:33:38Z
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@techaddressed any thoughts on what you’re gonna switch to?
(DIR) Post #AKKC5W9NDKw5KrGvtw by kev@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T21:34:26Z
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@mike I’ll probably go VSCode, but last time I tired it, I really didn’t like it.
(DIR) Post #AKKC7tWVHhmaPADyrY by indieishere@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T21:34:44Z
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@kev I have ZERO idea at the moment. You?
(DIR) Post #AKKCAIYRBqrYcJH840 by mike@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T21:35:18Z
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@kev I'm hoping that since Atom is FOSS someone else will pick it up and run with it. Not sure I have a lot of optimism it'll happen though.
(DIR) Post #AKKCEmQw2i2oRXu3xw by techaddressed@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T21:36:07Z
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@kev I don't write tons of code ... mostly when I need an editor it's because i want to get HTML or CSS code out of WordPress to somewhere less distracting.I might just use Gnome's editor. I haven't exactly decided yet.I used to have a Sublime Text license that was gifted to me but it doesn't work on the new versions.Anything else I do I typically use nano.
(DIR) Post #AKKCUiQOiMfOdzFaIS by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-06-09T21:38:56Z
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@mike @kev yeah, full vim might be the way to go... or perhaps revisit kdevelop... there're lots of other community-driven (as opposed to corporate ones, subject to the same risks as atom is/was) options that've been quietly been gestating into something quite usable... Will report back if I find something particularly compelling.
(DIR) Post #AKKCaarFlEQmugcAgy by vmstan@mastodon.technology
2022-06-09T21:40:02Z
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@kev I’m surprised they’ve kept it going this long.
(DIR) Post #AKKCrPOxbmX2IyOntg by wholesomedonut@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T21:43:05Z
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@mike @kev I've had an inverse experience with VSCode v Atom.. Atom has always felt kinda slow and lackluster compared to VSCode, IME.I do think though Kev that the best thing you could do for yourself if you convert your workflows over, is spending time getting your preferences and extensions configured -just so-.My setup is simple but it does everything I need it to, quietly and unobtrusively. It works as I intend it to and I'm happy that way.Don't take the stock experience as gospel.
(DIR) Post #AKKCuaHJcqTEuJKypc by kev@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T21:43:39Z
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@indieishere VSCode probably.
(DIR) Post #AKKD4FcHIi9bimkgAS by kev@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T21:45:19Z
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@david @mike yeah that’s true. All depends how imposing the EOL notifications will be.
(DIR) Post #AKKDmjY3NNWvILzFUO by metalune@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T21:53:25Z
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@kev lol wth, on my screen one letter is literally as big as a fingernail or something like that
(DIR) Post #AKKE9pg2ksn4xojqkq by mike@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T21:57:37Z
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@kev @david It'll be fine for a while, until something breaks and it doesn't get fixed.
(DIR) Post #AKKEKUaDWRsujA61wW by mike@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T21:59:33Z
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@lightweight @kev Not to start a war, but emacs may be a viable option too. There's basically something for everything in emacs. Might be something out there that integrates emacs and GitHub as easily as Atom did.
(DIR) Post #AKKETe6PV1XOrCWFLE by Volpit@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T22:01:13Z
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@kev @mike go with VSCodium at leasthttps://vscodium.com/
(DIR) Post #AKKEYk9WQrmx4MPC40 by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-06-09T22:01:04Z
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@mike @kev yeah, spent my first 15 years coding using Emacs... switched to Vim about 14 years ago (quit it cold turkey - haven't even started an emacs session since!) just to 'see how the other half lives'... but might need to revisit it. Wonder if if my muscle memory is still intact...
(DIR) Post #AKKEstHADp2F9kaQsa by spaphy@chill.anchovies.pizza
2022-06-09T22:05:43Z
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@mike @kev @david I'd be so surprised if a fork isn't WIP or if there isn't a fork already.IMO VS-Codium is probably the best editor - the fork of VS-Code.I can't get away from this 6 panel deal. 2 terminals split view, dual editors (expandable to more), a fixed menu on the left with a menu explorer to the right of it.Im a REPL guy anyways, so I basically just need a text editor and terminal but its worth mentioning this project too.https://vscodium.com/
(DIR) Post #AKKGbjn6QuRqj0TTIu by Wivik@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T22:25:04Z
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@mike @kev You have VSCodium which is a rebuild from VSCode sources, but without the telemetry enabled by default and the binaries are released under MIT license. For VSCode, the binaries are released under a MS proprietary license.
(DIR) Post #AKKGcjHLp3tBQU5zQ8 by ndanes@smallcamp.art
2022-06-09T22:25:06Z
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@kev Would you say they are atom sized? heheh*leaves*
(DIR) Post #AKKIVF6TobZFiiZJQ0 by surveyor3@mastodon.opencloud.lu
2022-06-09T22:24:48Z
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@lightweight @mike @kev don’t dismiss spacemacs also! Another good lightweight editor I use personally is geany
(DIR) Post #AKKIVFnNF7sXrkdZHE by fitheach@mstdn.io
2022-06-09T22:45:54Z
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@surveyor3 Another vote here for Geany. Vim is still my #1 editor, but, Geany has lots of nice features, too, including easy to use and very powerful search.@lightweight @mike @kev
(DIR) Post #AKKIVklK6neruMursu by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-06-09T22:46:23Z
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@fitheach @surveyor3 @mike @kev yeah, had that on my list to try out again after many years...
(DIR) Post #AKKJwdj4TfOdrHFNzc by andyc@pleroma.stream
2022-06-09T22:39:23.949834Z
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@mike @lightweight @kev There already is, it's called Magit.
(DIR) Post #AKKJweDud04BOvg144 by mike@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T23:02:26Z
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@andyc Nice! I'll have to give it a look and see what I think. I'm not much of an emacs guy these days, but I could be convinced if it's easy enough.@kev @lightweight
(DIR) Post #AKKKEkvISPRVOObVSa by mike@fosstodon.org
2022-06-09T23:05:43Z
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@Wivik A funny thing for me is that I have VSCode on my work computer, but the permissions are locked down on my work laptop to the point that when I kick off VSCode, it wants to run an update but can't without permission from corporate. So, if I WANTED to run it for work I'd have to get corporate permission every update. If I say no it just closes and doesn't work. It won't use an out of date option. @kev
(DIR) Post #AKKPabnZYvZLEcEMRk by cameron@linuxrocks.online
2022-06-10T00:05:07Z
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@kev What? I like Atom too. That's a bummer. I hope someone will fork it and keep it going.
(DIR) Post #AKKVo5QZJU86cJHSk4 by staticvoidmaine@fosstodon.org
2022-06-10T01:15:23Z
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@kev was this a surprise?
(DIR) Post #AKKXtp7D4gFTfg5aM4 by gruerproof@fosstodon.org
2022-06-10T01:38:50Z
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@kev Well shit.
(DIR) Post #AKKmK82kinJvGNRRse by Dashtop@mastodon.online
2022-06-10T04:20:26Z
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@kev we knew this during the buy out, eh?
(DIR) Post #AKKzAU5lBotQ9aa1Oi by Seferi@fosstodon.org
2022-06-10T06:44:22Z
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@kev I switched to sublime https://www.sublimetext.com/
(DIR) Post #AKL3z93tXQsVW17UnI by rzg@fosstodon.org
2022-06-10T07:38:20Z
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@kev Ever since Microsoft took over Github, it became redundant for them as compared to VSCode.I don't see a successful rebirth of Atom, as most people would likely move to VSCode much faster than anyone can keep up.A real alternative to al this is Emacs, for those who are ready to put the initial learning time.
(DIR) Post #AKL7KBmMvjNbt2eGCO by spaphy@chill.anchovies.pizza
2022-06-09T22:08:52Z
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@mike @kev @david The big problem for *me* was that in Glasswire on Windows and OSX- LittleSnitch I was able to catch Visual Studio Code sending my keystrokes to some Microsoft owned IP.I dug into it, and it was a "natural language service!". LOL.https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/49161https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28812486Thats when I went over to VS-Codium. The binaries from microsoft are a god damn snake pit. Last thing I want sent is my code, esp. if its proprietary for work.
(DIR) Post #AKL7KCDJJYvlEbFmC0 by metalune@fosstodon.org
2022-06-10T08:15:48Z
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@spaphy @mike @kev @david lmao imagine at this point you as a company has to assume that your source code is somewhere on Microsofts Servers
(DIR) Post #AKL8cvJ2V6OeFjQWUS by bugbear@tech.lgbt
2022-06-10T08:30:20Z
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@kev so I guess I'm switching editors :/
(DIR) Post #AKLIdtz3tw2Lz1Bi88 by Wivik@fosstodon.org
2022-06-10T10:22:34Z
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@mike @kev You mean VSCode is managed by GPO on your work computer or is it restrictions that not permit you to install it properly ?I must admit I don't have these issues, I use my own device for work and its running on Fedora.
(DIR) Post #AKLODBstq3MnPIx4hU by kev@fosstodon.org
2022-06-10T11:24:58Z
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@metalune its better on mobile - i was on my iPad last night and the text way tiny.
(DIR) Post #AKLOOTkFm2NVzCI3PM by kev@fosstodon.org
2022-06-10T11:27:01Z
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@mike @wholesomedonut i really dont have any interest in setting up my environment; I just want to install an editor with sane defaults. That’s what Atom was.
(DIR) Post #AKLRPw9FxLy2EHN7uy by tdarb@fosstodon.org
2022-06-10T12:00:53Z
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@kev I’ve found Sublime Text to be pretty fantastic for years. Plug-in management is clean by using the built in package manager. Also “out of the box” defaults are solid for most use cases.
(DIR) Post #AKLUZ080pP112dnu2y by joel@benign.town
2022-06-10T12:36:11Z
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@rzg @kev I find Doom Emacs to have quite some sane defaults, and VIM mode preinstalled.I've never used defautl emacs tho, so maybe its not that hard to setup?
(DIR) Post #AKLUrBeEjjR3ywY3F2 by icedquinn@blob.cat
2022-06-10T12:39:27.986108Z
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@joel @rzg @kev vanilla emacs really demands learning elisp. technically there is the customize system so you can make certain config changes now without resorting to it. but the default control scheme is truly awful.
(DIR) Post #AKLVX0h3r5PUAaoQ8u by joel@benign.town
2022-06-10T12:47:01Z
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@icedquinn @kev @rzg meh I'll still to doom
(DIR) Post #AKLVXmeDYxektfqpNI by joel@benign.town
2022-06-10T12:47:11Z
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@icedquinn @kev @rzg meh I'll stick to doom
(DIR) Post #AKLglYq8nN2RchCT0y by mike@fosstodon.org
2022-06-10T14:52:53Z
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@Wivik VSCode used to work fine, but my computer is locked down enough that when an update for it showed up, it won't let me install it. VSCode only starts to the point where it tells me I need to update it, and if I don't it shuts down. Effectively, the app is useless for me if I don't get corporate signoff for every update.@kev
(DIR) Post #AKLsr0Uob5GQIKaXs8 by kev@fosstodon.org
2022-06-10T17:08:19Z
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@tdarb sublime is the other one I’m considering. How is its Git integration though? I know they have another tool for that, so…
(DIR) Post #AKLu753DWucr0buMSG by tdarb@fosstodon.org
2022-06-10T17:22:26Z
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@kev I actually use Sublime Merge for that, but the default Git integration is pretty decent too: https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/git_integration.html
(DIR) Post #AKM2V4qAlMdQwJlB9k by borisv@fosstodon.org
2022-06-10T03:37:44Z
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@lightweight @kev There’s an open source version of vscode https://vscodium.com/
(DIR) Post #AKM7sya0BwSyF7Pa6q by hirozed@fosstodon.org
2022-06-10T19:56:46Z
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@kev @mike I used VSCode for a long while, but the slowness with the extensions I need to do my work was getting to me. I’m using (and paid for) Sublime Text and there will have to be a *darn good reason* for me to need to switch back.
(DIR) Post #AKM9BqakDOI6vOJyNs by kev@fosstodon.org
2022-06-10T20:11:22Z
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@tdarb i dont need anything clever. Just a way to commit and push/pull updates.
(DIR) Post #AKMAmCBlUjdQHnX840 by kev@fosstodon.org
2022-06-10T20:29:08Z
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Been playing around with VSCodium; I think that’s a keeper.
(DIR) Post #AKMHpn5pRQeTI4Pz2O by pabloscloud@fosstodon.org
2022-06-10T21:48:15Z
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@kev Yes it’s great. I also like Textmate for Mac. You use one, aren’t you?
(DIR) Post #AKMIRGKhgtpuguFAEi by Tay0@fosstodon.org
2022-06-10T21:54:58Z
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@kevHave you tried Geany?
(DIR) Post #AKN0tYcpfaBXW11dyK by kev@fosstodon.org
2022-06-11T06:13:08Z
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@Tay0 nope.
(DIR) Post #AKN0uV34SBdUiBkPvE by kev@fosstodon.org
2022-06-11T06:13:19Z
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@pabloscloud i do. I’ll check it out.
(DIR) Post #AKN141hYQ6aQabE4w4 by kev@fosstodon.org
2022-06-11T06:15:01Z
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@hirozed @mike i know many who love Sublime. I only need ac relatively nice Code editor with basic git integration. I don’t need fancy linters and all that jazz.I’m a coding luddite.
(DIR) Post #AKNAmE0cvAEz5dIVCS by theDoctor@fosstodon.org
2022-06-11T08:03:52Z
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@kev VSCode is the intended migration route anyway, as I understand it.Good on you to choose the FOSS version!
(DIR) Post #AKNjDzvUGsaVxjJAPo by hirozed@fosstodon.org
2022-06-11T14:29:52Z
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@kev @mike I’m too much of a rule follower to not have a linter help me. 😄 VSCode has way too many things to tweak and install that I would fall into the trap of overloading the IDE. That being said, what it comes with by default has some pretty decent git integration. You could probably install, hide the Extensions tab and be perfectly happy.