Post AJxLS6THdZRLUDK7NY by ares@social.snopyta.org
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(DIR) Post #AJxKbE5AboQBkApZh2 by fatboy@fosstodon.org
2022-05-29T20:51:26Z
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Interesting, Brave Search reads your browser history when using Firefox.Test:Step 1) clear cache, history and cookiesStep 2) Search "nitter"You should see results for niterStep 3) close all tabs, in current tab go to nitter.netStep 4) open new tab and search nitter again, first result will be nitter.net
(DIR) Post #AJxKiXK3TOUbRWHMHo by fatboy@fosstodon.org
2022-05-29T20:52:47Z
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Exhibit A
(DIR) Post #AJxKkqb0mm1ZnWJQ4O by fatboy@fosstodon.org
2022-05-29T20:53:12Z
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Exhibit B
(DIR) Post #AJxKmpepFJ9xSy2hai by fatboy@fosstodon.org
2022-05-29T20:53:34Z
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Sneaky bastards
(DIR) Post #AJxLS6THdZRLUDK7NY by ares@social.snopyta.org
2022-05-29T21:00:59Z
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@fatboy Can't reproduce on mobile. Are you using a addon for their search?
(DIR) Post #AJxLobeAPM1wXw90W8 by sam@fedi.dotsod.com
2022-05-29T21:05:02Z
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@fatboy i still use ddg and startpage.
(DIR) Post #AJxMVXeZ8E3yc2nuiX by fatboy@fosstodon.org
2022-05-29T21:12:50Z
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@ares nope
(DIR) Post #AJxN6ipEYbBfycWTrM by Hawk1291@fosstodon.org
2022-05-29T21:19:33Z
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@fatboy can't explain why, but I just dont trust anything that company does. In my experience my gut has been correct in these things. Doesn't mean its bad for anyone else but I have to trust my gut personally.
(DIR) Post #AJxUy8BPhvWveKJONc by werwolf@fosstodon.org
2022-05-29T22:47:39Z
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@fatboy quite interesting. I want to test this. I don't trust Brave at all, it's a shady company.
(DIR) Post #AJxXSxnwXouMLXACbw by werwolf@fosstodon.org
2022-05-29T23:15:37Z
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@fatboy can't reproduce it in vanilla Firefox, may you specify which version are you using?
(DIR) Post #AJy7Hre0hjW4PBWZ7o by fatboy@fosstodon.org
2022-05-30T05:57:00Z
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@werwolf Beta
(DIR) Post #AJyAQMzwJdIvpHWr0y by fatboy@fosstodon.org
2022-05-30T06:32:10Z
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@werwolf with ublock & privacy possum
(DIR) Post #AJyOu2YKIJ2OSgefxo by rudolf@fosstodon.org
2022-05-29T21:33:17Z
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@ares @fatboy I just tried it with Android. Does not happen. But I have first party isolation enabled.
(DIR) Post #AJyOu30KcBRHrXl2cC by rudolf@fosstodon.org
2022-05-29T21:36:22Z
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@ares @fatboy Also tried Mull, a Firefox fork. Does not happen either.
(DIR) Post #AJyOu3IlVeBUmiNlLc by fatboy@fosstodon.org
2022-05-30T09:14:23Z
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@rudolf I could not reproduce this with Mull, but I do get this with Firefox Beta for Android
(DIR) Post #AJytCPP94EarAn2GiO by rudolf@fosstodon.org
2022-05-30T14:53:51Z
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@fatboy Try enabling first party isolation. Mull has it enabled. Search "firstparty" in about:config in Mull and duplicate.
(DIR) Post #AJyve43IFTDCxy85cO by fatboy@fosstodon.org
2022-05-30T15:21:16Z
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@rudolf Nope, still happening
(DIR) Post #AK0UTjWXPONHxNZrlI by thedaviddelta@fosstodon.org
2022-05-31T09:26:17Z
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@fatboy maybe this is interesting for you @humanetech @thenewoil @surveillancepod
(DIR) Post #AK0Vsm8MwOqRFImGsi by dosch@social.weho.st
2022-05-31T09:41:59Z
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@fatboy I don't use brave... but what is the problem with a local app reading local cached history strings...? All happens on your own machine...
(DIR) Post #AK0Y1Vpp6s8FD3OfaK by fatboy@fosstodon.org
2022-05-31T10:06:00Z
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@dosch The problem is search results #1, totally inapplicable to what I am looking for, and #2 since when does a search engine need to read my cache/history to deliver me relevant search results? What's the point of typing a word in the search box?
(DIR) Post #AK0Y3yB0htOZgmTjiC by taylan@pl.tkammer.de
2022-05-31T09:59:24.596786Z
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@fatboy Is Brave Search just a website or some sort of extension?I'm pretty sure websites can't read your browser history?
(DIR) Post #AK0Y3ydiz8Md7pufT6 by fatboy@fosstodon.org
2022-05-31T10:06:26Z
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@taylan they can, cookies
(DIR) Post #AK0ZYqKK2g9AH57TdY by dosch@social.weho.st
2022-05-31T10:23:13Z
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@fatboy ah, so the critique is on a functionality level. Somehow I assumed it was on a security/privacy level.
(DIR) Post #AK0dDUjhWJtr314A6K by dsfgs@activism.openworlds.info
2022-05-31T10:30:32Z
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@ares@Hawk1291@werwolf@doschFirefox/TorBrowser has tab isolation so its likely not what you think. What is possible and more likely is #AmazonBrave stored your session, and realised you were unhappy with the search, because you searched again and gave you a (better) search result.If niter is given, that is odd in itself.Brave is #Amazon and uses #lazyLoading to determine how far you scroll down the results page, which feeds Amazon data.#braveSearch@fatboy
(DIR) Post #AK0dDVFxaNhif49vNo by fatboy@fosstodon.org
2022-05-31T11:04:10Z
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@dsfgs @ares @Hawk1291 @werwolf @dosch Thanks for the valuable information
(DIR) Post #AK0dE0fulvsw6XXads by fatboy@fosstodon.org
2022-05-31T11:04:18Z
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@dosch it's a bit of both
(DIR) Post #AK0dJmNWq5tZVBgxge by dosch@social.weho.st
2022-05-31T11:05:19Z
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@fatboy ok, I fail to see the privacy/security implication of this (maybe useless) functionality
(DIR) Post #AK0dU1BQeMWSJXulUG by fatboy@fosstodon.org
2022-05-31T11:07:11Z
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@dsfgs @ares @Hawk1291 @werwolf @dosch I tried searching for Nitter twice in two tabs, and got the same search result.
(DIR) Post #AK0eYNUpjUVkd4dLto by dsfgs@activism.openworlds.info
2022-05-31T11:19:10Z
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@fatboyMaybe its exceedingly thick and took a few attempts to trigger a re-organisation.If we helped, its our pleasure.@ares @Hawk1291 @werwolf @dosch