Post AJsKlBup549psTA5vU by thefoxandthebear2@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #A9sVqDt5eucgDLScjo by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2021-08-01T09:57:37Z
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The Small Web isn’t about going back to the days of GeoCities. It’s about going forward differently, using modern tech in a non-colonial manner.It’s not about building clones of Twitter, YouTube, etc. There’s no way anyone can self-host a dozen different services. Instead, it’s about having a single-tenant place on the Web that you own and control without technical knowhow; a place you can add Twitter, YouTube, etc., *features* to.https://small-tech.org/research-and-development/#SmallWeb #SmallTech #SingleTenant
(DIR) Post #A9sVqENZpZ0djtiyG0 by awaspnest@mastodon.xyz
2021-08-01T10:06:10Z
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@aralNot everyone can manage self hosting. Ultimately, the problems come down to modern software being to brittle, having too many bugs, and not being user friendly enough. It's sad because you're right, we shouldn't be paying with our freedom–but the reality is in order for someone to have access to modern services someone needs to be patching/updating/debugging/tweaking and paying.
(DIR) Post #A9sVqEoAEiHD4MAChM by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2021-08-01T10:08:38Z
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@awaspnest Your first sentence is exactly what I’m saying in my post :)
(DIR) Post #A9sVqFGWXGxgUJQqu0 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2021-08-01T10:11:06Z
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@awaspnest (That doesn’t mean we built multi-tenant services. It means we build a single-tenant service that can be set up and used without technical knowhow. And then we make it so that the mechanism for doing that can be hosted by anyone with technical knowhow. And further, we make it so they can do so sustainably within the current socioeconomic system and in the better one we hope systems like this will help usher in…)
(DIR) Post #A9sVqFiAsT4zs4Mw08 by awaspnest@mastodon.xyz
2021-08-01T10:15:54Z
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@aralI've only poked around on your website a bit, but you're making a web application right? I think just running a debian server with nodejs on it is well beyond the reach of most people (In order to host sitejs). But maybe I'm missing something?
(DIR) Post #A9sVqG6dPWe55voT7w by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2021-08-01T10:20:19Z
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@awaspnest When it’s ready this will be your experience:1. Go to small-web.org2. Choose a name3. Either pay €10/mo (or maybe, for example, your municipality will give you a code, so enter that instead.)In under 30 seconds you’re up and running with your own place on the web.(And anyone with tech knowledge can run their own small-web.org at their own domain. And you can easily move your place from one domain/host to another.)Very early demo: https://small-tech.org/videos/small-is-beautiful-11/
(DIR) Post #A9sW20uniRL3SKsoOO by amolith@nixnet.social
2021-08-01T10:25:00.225888Z
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@aral @awaspnest once it's a bit further along, I would love to offer this as part of nixnet.services!
(DIR) Post #ACtJ1sbFikgFjbK8jg by onan@dobbs.town
2021-10-30T13:10:17Z
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@aral Your mission is good! Best of luck!There might be some useful tools for you here...https://freedombone.net/index.html
(DIR) Post #ACteolBeAWxByEUpQu by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2021-10-30T17:14:23Z
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@onan Thanks :)
(DIR) Post #ACtgOaJq9WDydxyVjk by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2021-10-30T17:32:08.178164Z
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@aral I believe every household should have a server, and for most services you'd access your own server from anywhere rather than someone else's. In a world where governments and big tech believe censorship is their right and duty, we have no choice but to own the infrastructure together.
(DIR) Post #ACvQrYvBDbIXkw9ipU by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2021-10-31T09:40:47Z
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@sj_zero Sure, and there’s nothing stopping anyone from installing what we’re building on a raspberry pi and plugging it into their routers. But we can’t expect everyone to do that. That said, I can see us providing preconfigured little devices that folks can just plug in. Been prototyping them. Easier than ever to do today.
(DIR) Post #ACvQrZQNLcFfJgkdSC by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2021-10-31T13:47:26.627005Z
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@aral I think that is something that can be the next big thing.I've got a NAS that has a bunch of pacakages you can install including nextcloud. It doesn't include what I think you'd need, but something like what you're talking about would be perfect -- it's a big change in looking at the world realizing that our Internet connections are 2-way.Best of luck to you on that!
(DIR) Post #AHn9OLgk5XbtJC0c3E by somenxavier@scholar.social
2021-10-30T13:20:08Z
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@aral I think there is something we need: a protocol to send or share contents among computers on the same network without having to send to external common computer (aka server)
(DIR) Post #AHn9OMLVdyDhLd5Aau by seb@ioc.exchange
2022-03-26T03:14:32Z
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@somenxavier @aral https://scuttlebutt.nz/docs/protocol/
(DIR) Post #AHqxDOC013QV4WTb4S by adam@hax0rbana.social
2022-03-27T23:16:58Z
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@aralPlease stop saying that things like "There is no way anyone can self-host a doze. Different services"This is simply not true. I am currently self-hosting 19 services.
(DIR) Post #AHqxJwLxv6dWl0GHyK by SigmaOne@toot.party
2022-03-27T23:18:07Z
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@adam @aral I think the meaning is that not everyone can do it, just not ideal wordingLike, I can easily run tens of services on my servers, but not everyone can
(DIR) Post #AHr0danS4oRxYRBGxU by adam@hax0rbana.social
2022-03-27T23:55:18Z
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@SigmaOne @aral Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate the sentiment of moving from choosing between companies that own and control your data (Google, AWS, et al) to moving to everyone self hosting everything, but speaking in absolutes is not helpful in getting thereAs for saying that easy-to-use single tenant servers is not self hosting nor being controlled by the hosting provider (e.g., AWS)... well I'm not sure what to say to that. I must be misunderstanding something
(DIR) Post #AHr0shK65qia8jeYnA by SigmaOne@toot.party
2022-03-27T23:58:00Z
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@adam @aral I think the point is that non-enthusiasts don't have the capacity or willingness to run and maintain a bunch of services just to avoid the big companies, but there should instead be a single service they can run which has the features they need without the hassle of maintaining separate serversSo essentially things like peertube, a fedi instance, etc. rolled into one easy to maintain and use modular bundle
(DIR) Post #AHr3OB5BhKi9K4olv6 by adam@hax0rbana.social
2022-03-28T00:26:09Z
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@SigmaOne @aral Sounds like just improving existing self-hosting solutions. Yunohost and Nextcloud both come to mind. However, I only hear @aral talk about building new things that will compete with the existing solutions.If the community's efforts are going to be further divided, there should be a compelling reason. What requirement do existing solutions not meet?
(DIR) Post #AHrb2mkkMBkaE4EB7I by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2022-03-28T06:43:12Z
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@adam @SigmaOne There created to host from 1-1,000,000 people. So they’re designed for 1,000,000 people not one. That’s a huge amount of additional complexity.It’s like telling someone, you don’t have to fly commercially, you can fly your own 747. Now it’s certainly possible; John Travolta does it. But the folks who want more people to be able to fly themselves are designing solutions that look more like drones.
(DIR) Post #AHrbJWSCD5fmb7X1JQ by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2022-03-28T06:43:33Z
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@adam @SigmaOne They’re created to host from 1-1,000,000 people. So they’re designed for 1,000,000 people not one. That’s a huge amount of additional complexity.It’s like telling someone, you don’t have to fly commercially, you can fly your own 747. Now it’s certainly possible; John Travolta does it. But the folks who want more people to be able to fly themselves are designing solutions that look more like drones.
(DIR) Post #AHsBxOzmxIiLOqYlO4 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2022-03-28T06:47:09Z
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@adam @SigmaOne In the same way, Small Tech and Small Web are about designing solutions for 1. Not 2, not 100,000, not 1,000,000. Single tenant apps, as we call them. That’s what reduces complexity and will make it possible for everyday people to use them.So, for example, compare the effort of setting up PeerTube (which is designed to support thousands of people) with Owncast (which is designed to support just one). The latter can be up and running in under a minute on a tiny server.
(DIR) Post #AHsBxPSrDDxyr09yhE by adam@hax0rbana.social
2022-03-28T13:36:48Z
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@aral @SigmaOne Thanks for the reply. It sounds like you are saying the requirement is to make server software easy to install/setup/maintain/use, and you believe that the only way to get there is single tenant apps. Is that accurate?
(DIR) Post #AJsKlBup549psTA5vU by thefoxandthebear2@mastodon.social
2022-05-27T09:53:51Z
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@aral No. It is having no meta, no neorolink, no Silicon Valley. It is about the #fediverse
(DIR) Post #AJsKlCNtKzPTKclJEe by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2022-05-27T10:57:13Z
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@thefoxandthebear2 Thanks for explaining to me what the thing I’m working on is or isn’t.:awesome:👍
(DIR) Post #ALy6s08rasITo456Js by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2022-05-27T11:00:01Z
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@thefoxandthebear2@mastodon.social For the record, the small web isn’t the fediverse. The fediverse is the fediverse. The small web is the small web.https://ar.al/2020/08/07/what-is-the-small-web/
(DIR) Post #ALyAP7hIp6oYerfvZQ by epic@gleasonator.com
2022-07-29T02:16:08.949918Z
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Is me thinking you're describing Hubzilla just because I was recently researching Hubzilla, or are you describing Hubzilla?