Post AJAM302LbHQkGTfWIS by oausi@norden.social
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(DIR) Post #AJ9FkcGophBGlZRtg0 by fatboy@fosstodon.org
2022-05-05T17:01:33Z
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Which one do you prefer to use? #poll #xmpp
(DIR) Post #AJ9GLvUGLdHL54WnFw by bbbhltz@fosstodon.org
2022-05-05T17:08:18Z
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@fatboy wish I could answer. I have one person on my xmpp contact list and on matrix I have just lurked in groups.
(DIR) Post #AJ9Gllx2QOB12EJOWO by mathilde@smallcamp.art
2022-05-05T17:12:52Z
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@fatboy iMessage or Signal 🥹
(DIR) Post #AJ9GrBYAfxvlsPGHPU by Anfeald@fosstodon.org
2022-05-05T17:13:57Z
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@fatboy maybe better to make a poll about which one is more decentralized and cheaper to run, better for the environment because of less resource needs and and and...oh you caught me I like XMPP ;)
(DIR) Post #AJ9Hd2T7k9phbwidxw by Twelve@fosstodon.org
2022-05-05T17:22:37Z
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@fatboyI just recently got inn to xmpp. I like fetures matrix offers so for groups i find it much better. Xmpp is simpler in some ways and i find it kinda nostalgic in some way.Also for hosting your own matrix i find to ve way easier to set up ecen if it is wat more resource intensive
(DIR) Post #AJ9HnFdHeh4rKlLCBU by cr0n0s@social.tchncs.de
2022-05-05T17:24:26Z
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@fatboy i'm more of xmpp. A matrix, although it looks good there is something that doesn't quite convince me, despite being very similar to my longed for IRC.
(DIR) Post #AJ9IdkbNl0cWRSU8cy by Mundon@fosstodon.org
2022-05-05T17:33:55Z
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@fatboy In my experience XMPP is more user friendly. That being said, I have convinced exactly three friends to try both, and all three have abandoned ship, so I don't really use either at this point :(
(DIR) Post #AJ9IsWNYv5pwfr42G8 by thrrgilag@fosstodon.org
2022-05-05T17:36:37Z
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@fatboy I give a slight edge to xmpp since I've been using it longer, but I like using both for different reasons.
(DIR) Post #AJ9J0dqL3IjG8lOcRk by fcktheworld587@social.linux.pizza
2022-05-05T17:38:05Z
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@fatboy I'm not going to vote; as I haven't used XMPP enough to really opine on the subject; but I'm interested in seeing results
(DIR) Post #AJ9LsP4wMVtVtXzOnw by torresjrjr@qoto.org
2022-05-05T18:10:12Z
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@fatboy In theory, Matrix is a supperior successor to XMPP. In practice, the Matrix ecosystem is terribly bloated.IIRC, the flagship server is written in Python, and the flagship client "Element" is a terribly slugish webapp. Even some of the Android apps need some serious UX overhauls.Turns out that the default config for certain servers is too generous towards the central Matrix servers.And most of all, Matrix grew suspiciously too quickly in numbers and funding. With Amdoc, the Israeli cyber-intelligence company, as the backing of a lot of this, Matrix just smells. Just like Signal, and anything else that amassed it's appeal via funding.These takes are not thought out. Just speaking my mind.
(DIR) Post #AJ9MrPN7szdiT9aKDw by joebiden@social.linux.pizza
2022-05-05T18:21:12Z
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@fatboy interesting
(DIR) Post #AJ9PB49GhhwELUbWj2 by greypilgrim@fosstodon.org
2022-05-05T18:47:12Z
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@fatboy As a user, I like the rich features of Element (and other competing products as well) much more than XMPP. Much more.As the chat server admin, XMPP is tons simpler to both set up and maintain. You can literally install Prosody, edit the small-ish config file and your firewall once, and let the OS package system keep it automatically updated. You could run on a 256MB host.At the end of the day, I'm very versed in setting up complex systems, so I am willing to run Synapse.
(DIR) Post #AJ9YE7CAjPtoFeUW7U by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2022-05-05T20:28:33Z
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@fatboy ooh they're neck-and-neck
(DIR) Post #AJ9Yaag7nKYS3wDbhg by ogstu@mstdn.social
2022-05-05T20:32:39Z
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@fatboy I'm not on XMPP yet
(DIR) Post #AJ9YwavtWtdNDq5See by huntra@mastodon.technology
2022-05-05T20:36:38Z
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@fatboy I like Matrix and use it, but I have nothing against XMPP. I used it a lot back when I was in bigger EVE Online alliances and they had their chat infra there.
(DIR) Post #AJ9ZfIUmvR1d4UixFo by kaip@social.tchncs.de
2022-05-05T20:44:42Z
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@fatboy Just imagine what we could have if NewVector had decided to built their product on the XMPP standard instead of inventing their own chat protocol.... They don't seem to care about internet standards or interoperability a lot.
(DIR) Post #AJ9ZiEfjb5vG59FGaG by arnottchu@mstdn.social
2022-05-05T20:45:14Z
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@fatboy I host my own XMPP server for me and a good friend. It's a heck of a lot better than SMS! I've also heard that many Matrix users are on the few "big" servers, which doesn't sound decentralizedSomewhat off topic, there's exists a social media platform that runs on top of your standard XMPP server. It's called MovimI haven't tried it, but it seems neat that XMPP can do more than just IM
(DIR) Post #AJ9a5qKPl6kfWyWubg by mmu_man@m.g3l.org
2022-05-05T20:49:30Z
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@fatboy IRC
(DIR) Post #AJ9bW7KJHXd3jXZbmq by prplecake@compostintraining.club
2022-05-05T21:05:27Z
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@fatboy IRC.
(DIR) Post #AJ9dAKMuJO2bigWf8C by mxc48@mamot.fr
2022-05-05T21:23:56Z
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@fatboy I use both daily
(DIR) Post #AJ9deWuIG53ZIKXl4K by hisham_hm@mastodon.social
2022-05-05T21:29:22Z
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@fatboy depends, is this 2007 or 2022?I've used XMPP a *lot* back when it was used even by commercial services like Google Talk and Facebook.Today, I use Matrix on chat.fosdem.org and on with their Gitter bridge, but pretty much never to chat 1-to-1 with people.
(DIR) Post #AJAM302LbHQkGTfWIS by oausi@norden.social
2022-05-06T05:46:49Z
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@fatboyI actually like XMPP more, it uses fewer resources and is faster, but it has never worked well on the iOS devices in my circle of family and friends.So I've moved most existing contacts to Matrix and tend to create new ones there as well, if possible.
(DIR) Post #AJAPOCVaj3gutA9GLo by WandelStock@mastodon.art
2022-05-06T06:24:16Z
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@fatboy XMPP has way better clients.
(DIR) Post #AJDA5A0ItjwlmRrACe by jcast@mastodon.social
2022-05-07T14:16:43Z
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@fatboy Matrix is bloated and it's starting to be noticed how large their attack surface is.
(DIR) Post #AJDvt1C0cygymHbj5k by brunofontes@fosstodon.org
2022-05-07T23:12:33Z
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@fatboy That's a hard one. They both have good and bad parts. It would be amazing to have a mix of them.
(DIR) Post #AK9TH07mZlEzctAN4C by lukaso666@chaos.social
2022-06-04T17:25:10Z
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@fatboy XMPP / IRC 🔥 ✊
(DIR) Post #AKAJgZioYfassx0Hke by sofia@chaos.social
2022-06-05T03:12:27Z
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@fatboy i wish Tox got more love and attention 😔.