Post AIxASMsuSyvIAVE3qS by reedyn@mastodon.acc.sunet.se
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(DIR) Post #AIxASMCizpBA3fUN5k by giffengrabber@mastodon.se
2022-04-29T19:57:11Z
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I like open source, but it’s not a religion for me. Proprietary software can be very useful.
(DIR) Post #AIxASMsuSyvIAVE3qS by reedyn@mastodon.acc.sunet.se
2022-04-29T20:05:15Z
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@giffengrabber this is sort of my approach too. I see it as one way of sharing and building software among many. Sometimes it works great other times not so much.
(DIR) Post #AIxASNVCAdY25F8dWK by giffengrabber@mastodon.se
2022-04-29T20:06:48Z
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@reedyn Indeed. And IMHO, for high-quality desktop applications, proprietary often beats open source. I gladly pay for those applications. It’s a lot of hard work to make one.
(DIR) Post #AIxASO16G14JgC47FY by reedyn@mastodon.acc.sunet.se
2022-04-29T20:07:40Z
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@giffengrabber indeed. I think this has more to do with most open source software having a focus on the solution and not the experience. Mastodon is a great exception :)
(DIR) Post #AIxASPUYlyECFqr9o8 by giffengrabber@mastodon.se
2022-04-29T20:09:34Z
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@reedyn yeah, Mastodon is an achievement for sure. I also believe federation and open source fits very well for this kind of system. Social media owned by corporations can be quite problematic to say the least.
(DIR) Post #AIxAT3EJ1ozfV1Yk1g by Sandra@idiomdrottning.org
2022-04-29T20:09:04.138093Z
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@giffengrabber I started using proprietary last September after 22 years on "the FOSS religion" and so far I've been very frustrated. It's been crashy and limited. This iPad would be better if it was the exact same way but had a git repo and a DFSG-compliant COPYING file.I've been using straight.el and it's been such a dream but unfortunately it's only for Emacs packages.
(DIR) Post #AIxAXNMO7shR5hOypc by Sandra@idiomdrottning.org
2022-04-29T20:13:22.601052Z
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@giffengrabber Conversedly, Emacs would not be better if I lost access to modify and distribute its source code.
(DIR) Post #AIxAXNwtw7uGuwU8kC by giffengrabber@mastodon.se
2022-04-29T20:14:20Z
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@Sandra Of course not. Emacs is a great open source application.
(DIR) Post #AIxAXOaFZpNksytZ4q by Sandra@idiomdrottning.org
2022-04-29T20:26:35.733520Z
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@giffengrabberSo what I'm saying is that proprietariness is a bad quality (menar "dålig egenskap" snarare än "dålig kvalle"). All other things being equal, making an app proprietary makes it worse (by adding that bad quality) and making it free makes it better for that same reason.The FOSS community has got 99 problems but the licenses ain't one.One big problem in the FOSS community is that design—and by design I mean users' wishlists and half-baked ideas—is often undervalued, mocked even ("send patches or STFU"), while in business, people get paid to just design UI and UX (something I love to do!) One exception is Delta Chat which has a great "suggestions" program, leveraging all this design work and usability field testing.
(DIR) Post #AIxAXPDbDWrEr1IzPU by giffengrabber@mastodon.se
2022-04-29T20:29:05Z
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@Sandra last para – spot on
(DIR) Post #AIxAXPy2Qs0LB324nI by Sandra@idiomdrottning.org
2022-04-29T20:30:56.969948Z
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@giffengrabber Yeah, I hate FOSS. I just hate proprietary more.
(DIR) Post #AIxAXQgLm7RxOTlSrY by giffengrabber@mastodon.se
2022-04-29T20:31:20Z
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@Sandra Je sais