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 (DIR) Post #AIVO2Bc1XHrUe2ZvKy by becassine@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T11:25:56.461165Z
       
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       Look at the username. You can’t make this up.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVOAk5RFEJ7skPtlg by Morghur@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T11:27:29.772646Z
       
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       @becassine Oh boy... For me it was that and i was having a blast when i had free time.People today don't understand the concept of quality time
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVOE0jpn6e4OWs0mG by becassine@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T11:28:04.788264Z
       
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       @Morghur They don’t do anything worthwhile with their free time…
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVOUflf0oteHKfYXY by Morghur@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T11:31:05.640930Z
       
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       @becassine I still remember when i worked in Germany from 8 in the morning until 6 in the afternoon and i had a pretty enjoyable time. Exercise, drawing, writing, going outside... There is plenty to do tbh
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVOV7bhVRZCcYDzu4 by Julia@librosphere.fr
       2022-04-16T11:30:40.262350Z
       
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       @becassine @Morghur They obviously don’t know the pure JOY of playing Elden Ring :hilda_shocked:
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVOZNpJ91Jc5CcalU by Morghur@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T11:31:56.802584Z
       
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       @Julia @becassine I remember that. 2 weeks of playing it from dawn to dusk.Now when i pick up Elden Ring again i can't bring myself to playing it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVOtOeffMNu9ekrmS by Julia@librosphere.fr
       2022-04-16T11:33:45.723307Z
       
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       @Morghur @becassine I’m probably gonna stick to it if I wanna play a video game when I have time
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVOtP4u5pMtT11ofY by Morghur@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T11:35:33.336568Z
       
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       @Julia @becassine In my case i go back to Kenshi. It's a game that has anhialated me for hundreds of hours and i come back asking for more. And it gets better every time.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVVONwcxNOieaJV3Y by Hibou@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T12:48:23.629795Z
       
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       @becassine >woman>in her underwears (maybe swiming suit)>taking selfy in a mirror>cat mom>wage cuck>can't wait for next travel>whinning about a situation she choseShe wanted to check all the boxes didn't she?
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVbCOdFAtdl2FuhH6 by PunishedD@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T13:53:27.540897Z
       
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       @Hibou @becassine Welcome to that "empowering career" the 2nd wave feminists promised you.  If only they had asked some men why we have a mid-life crisis by 40 before trying to copy us.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVg7GLl2UtHfj6dH6 by Hibou@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T14:48:28.260253Z
       
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       @PunishedD @becassine I think the issue we have, well since forever I guess, is having balanced lives.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVgJw5zehJAcRm8pM by admin@happylittle.cloudns.cc
       2022-04-16T14:50:49.847089Z
       
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       @becassine lol I've seen this before and never noticed the name.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVgkVhrsTDsarA91U by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
       2022-04-16T14:55:38.350232Z
       
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       @becassine everything right down to her bra screams "lonely for a reason"
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVhNtfqhWbMDl00uW by becassine@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T15:02:45.711644Z
       
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       @Leyonhjelm I think she’s in a bikini but then the question remainsWhy?
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVhTlMGX3DeAQdVvE by kazcynski_stan@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T15:03:49.037701Z
       
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       @becassine You know what would fix this?Being a married, real mom.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVhbcSTVOYKsiHqiG by CrushBead@shitposter.club
       2022-04-16T15:04:45.043922Z
       
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       @becassine @Leyonhjelm "Deep down inside I know I am a shallow empty person with little to know redeeming values, but if I flash some skin men on the internet will give me attention so I can get my dopamine fix and feel as if I have value as a human being."
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVhcP9iRvf7uit3mC by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
       2022-04-16T15:05:23.168688Z
       
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       @becassine maybe she's such a wage slave that she can afford two modes: work clothes and near nudity, and she hates get job so much that she can't stand the work clothes once she gets home.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVhtJzMufgOoP76mm by Hibou@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T15:08:24.626454Z
       
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       @kazcynski_stan @becassine I don't think so. Many women believe in magic. Getting married and having kids is hard work and many think it can be done with little efforts or sacrifices and then you get divorces and depression. That picture shows me she is probably beyond repair.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVi2AnIT5EUtwgigq by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
       2022-04-16T15:10:02.219492Z
       
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       @CrushBead Gotta say, that worked better 20 years ago.  Now you have to either show boobs or feet, or wear really odd costumes.  A fairly unfortunate bra or bikini won't work that well these days@becassine
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVi77gVSNDOhms8EC by CasperDoogan@poa.st
       2022-04-16T15:10:55.296754Z
       
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       @becassine 
       
 (DIR) Post #AIViazq7BlKL3tbxKK by PunishedD@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T15:16:20.250953Z
       
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       @Hibou @becassine I don't know that it's really an issue of balance, in the way we think of it now.Go back in time 150 years to a family farm, both men and women were working harder and more hours than we are now.  Working in a city could be more or less, but you could also be working as a craftsman or in a unique firm.  There were manual labor jobs, like working in mines or in shipyards, but then those workers built communities around their work locations.  And they didn't get weekends off.More importantly, you had a stable local community, religion, social structure, and (usually) family life.  There was a progression you could achieve in any of these areas, even if your work was the same thing 6-7 days a week for your whole life.The corporate world of the 20th century has fake progression.  The "career" is no longer a hierarchy of skill and experience to climb, it's endless sideways title changes and minor cost-of-living salary bumps.That might be bearable, but the world outside the office is no longer stable or flourishing.It doesn't matter how little work you do, 20 hour week or 40 hours or 60; if you aren't growing something tangible outside that, your life is going to wind up feeling meaningless.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVimnBg3TvFISJzvM by becassine@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T15:18:28.124599Z
       
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       @PunishedD @Hibou Also the connections you have at work are very shallow- like you say, the work itself is meaningless and unstable
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVjnjRXYr6xvbklNo by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
       2022-04-16T15:29:50.991122Z
       
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       @PunishedD I was in the right age range when I bought my first classic car.  Unlike catbrawoman it actually opened the door to social events and making some new friends, which was good because I'm new to the area.@Hibou @becassine
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVjpPWQbAoeisq8RM by Hibou@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T15:30:08.776189Z
       
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       @PunishedD @becassine Hum. You have a point and I guess it goes in my idea of having a balanced life. The mid-life crisis comes from unbalance I think. Work just for the sake of working is not good enough if there's no higher point to it.It's something I discussed in my office. How loyalty and the time you've been in the place has no value. Having the feeling of not really being needed or easily replacable can have some negative effect on workers I think. We kinds see it today actualy. So many people just left their jobs without a second thought the moment they had the chance and employers say or pretend to don't know why.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVjyjn4btZIBt4adE by becassine@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T15:31:50.089314Z
       
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       @Saratoga @Hibou Traveling can be good if there’s a point to itBut there’s this kind of « meme » version of travel that I don’t understand.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVk0QcOrYQ5JBt34a by Hibou@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T15:32:08.082907Z
       
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       @Saratoga @becassine Escapism is my guess.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVk4z20rET1CI2U9A by becassine@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T15:32:57.937773Z
       
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       @Hibou @Saratoga That makes sense
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVkL0F87XyzaWoTxI by CrushBead@shitposter.club
       2022-04-16T15:33:19.607229Z
       
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       @becassine @Hibou @PunishedD I retired after 20 years working in a specialty that was so small I knew every person who had ever worked in the specialty on a first name basis. Many of them I worked obscenely long shifts with, and spent hours upon hours chatting with them as we tried to keep everything from falling down around our ears. If you asked me to say anything about them other than their names and maybe a couple of facts about their personal lives I wouldn't have a clue. Not a man jack of them has written or called me since I retired. I have no desire to contact any of them myself. They were just strangers I had to deal with on a daily basis, so it was best to be friendly and keep things on the surface level so as to not cause drama.The bigger issue that resulted from that environment is that now that I am retired I have no clue how to form actual friendships or relationships as socialization is a skill that needs to be regularly trained or it atrophies.The modern working world is shit and only encourages and rewards those who dehumanize themselves and give everything to the system. If it is at all possible I believe that people should remain in the communities they were born and raised in and work to improve them while deepening the bonds of family, friends, and neighbors. Sadly the internet and mass media conditions people to hate those they should love and to seek out the approval of rootless cosmopolitans and foreigners.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVkRulsrYUce3QgQi by becassine@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T15:37:04.158042Z
       
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       @CrushBead @Hibou @PunishedD That is so sad, sorry to hear that
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVkeQnpb38VSoJCCW by SpaceElf@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T15:39:22.199624Z
       
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       @Saratoga @Hibou @becassine They get to be the hotel staff's central axis for two weeks via their credit card, and dicked down by low value local men who will swarm over them ~~like bees on my garden.~~ niggity noggers on a pharmacy with a broken front window. Shouldn't compare bees in such an unfavorable way. I'm sorry bees.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVkoCd98yfEP9yDgG by becassine@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T15:41:07.647820Z
       
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       @SpaceElf @Saratoga @Hibou Do they actually have sex with the local men??? That seems unbelievable to me. Like a great way to get a disease or murdered, beyond what it would do to your soul.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVkvJ1pknqsH8u9FQ by Hibou@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T15:42:25.133694Z
       
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       @CrushBead @PunishedD @becassine We've been conditionned to be individualists. It was for me at least. My car doesn't start? I'd rather spend hundred of dollars to get a mechanic instead of asking for help from a coworker.I don't invite coworkers to do stuff outside of working hours because I feed like I'd be bothering them and they don't do the same for the same reasons.It's something I force myself to correct but it's a pain to unlearn bad habits.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVl3XpQc0YWUe1xM8 by Hibou@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T15:43:54.518365Z
       
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       @SpaceElf @Saratoga @becassine Don't do this to bees. Don't conpare them to whores. :ablobheadshake:
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVlC43sebqQmMqxBg by Hibou@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T15:45:26.744197Z
       
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       @becassine @SpaceElf @Saratoga Or other travelers. They go to resorts for a reason. You give money and you don't have to think about anything else.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVlE9SpXTS476WCUC by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
       2022-04-16T15:45:49.502800Z
       
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       @becassine Especially when the necessary job changes for advancement means everyone knows you'll only work together for about two to five years max@Hibou @PunishedD
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVlFseZ0nPmYTpa88 by SpaceElf@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T15:46:07.604967Z
       
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       @becassine @Hibou @Saratoga Yes. They do. and it's better than men in their home country because they can fuck as many as they like and no one back home will ever find out what a whore they are. I worked in tourism for a bit. 50 year old hags offering money to take you for a ride is a thing you need to deal with if you look good.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVlGuvS34x1tODyL2 by becassine@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T15:46:19.583537Z
       
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       @Leyonhjelm @Hibou @PunishedD Yep!
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVlKPlLqyoGOuATDs by Zettour@gearlandia.haus
       2022-04-16T15:46:57.446581Z
       
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       @becassine @Saratoga @Hibou Performative consumption. Most people love talking about their vacation far more than the vacation itself, it's a way of signaling wealth and happiness. I've been on vacation with family members who hated every moment of the trip at the time but now talk about it for years afterward to everyone they know in glowing terms.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVlNGpNWwCXYePgZc by PunishedD@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T15:47:28.471272Z
       
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       @Hibou @becassine Kind of.  Ideally, we have meaningful work and a meaningful family/social life.  If your work feels meaningless, your outside life needs to compensate to make it worthwhile to keep doing it.  Similarly if you have a crappy family life, your work needs to provide extra achievement and meaning--a "career".I think the mid-20th century marks the point where work got corporatized into meaningless, right when the social fabric and families started coming apart.  That combination led to what we think of as burn out, mid life crisis, etc.My theory is that men hit this problem first, because they were the ones in the workplace at the time.  A male mid-life crisis comes from the point where he looks around and realizes he'll never climb as high as he wanted, his family life is devalued or monotonous, and he feels a need to DO SOMETHING NOW to change it.  In the 20th century context, that translates to quitting your job, buying a sports car (representing status), and maybe having an affair with a "sexually liberated" younger woman.Women already had something like that: the biological clock.  Around the same time, they are getting physical warnings that their potential is running out, and they need to DO SOMETHING NOW to deal with it.Now add on the corporate career and its meaningless hitting at the same time, and we get the OP pic, across an entire gender, enforced both by corporatism and biology.(Men get physical changes around the same age too, but we don't associate them with our inherent potential.  It's just another thing to power through in our pursuit of work and status.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVlXhzhNftOi1DYzA by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
       2022-04-16T15:49:21.254102Z
       
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       @becassine Of course not living near each other and not being on the same religious page complicates expansion of the relationship beyond work won't help@Hibou @PunishedD
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVlwhZO5zpSdGpRAW by becassine@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T15:53:52.482294Z
       
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       @Zettour @Saratoga @Hibou That’s really too bad! My vacations growing up were almost always to visit family. In the rare exceptions they were to hang out together as a family unit.I’m taking my first “vacation” without my family this summer, as a mini pilgrimage to the Saint Anne de Beaupré basilica, and then through a variety of villages to do some architecture studies. I have some relatives up there too.I can’t imagine going somewhere without anyone you know to not visit anyone. Seems lonely.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVmrSk1tqGn9Js7oe by CrushBead@shitposter.club
       2022-04-16T15:57:08.938838Z
       
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       @PunishedD @Hibou @becassine From personal experience I can tell you that some of those physical changes males go through at that age can literally be stopped, and even somewhat reversed, by Testosterone therapy. I got on Test and felt like I was 16 again. Strong, fast, virile, and my stamina improved so much I was running as fast and as hard as I was in my 20s. If you don't care about having grey hair or wrinkles Test will make everything else about your life better. You will sleep better, be less depressed, more active, and just generally have a much better sense of wellbeing and self-image. For me personally It was a massive quality of life improvement.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVnILLtTsSw3COt8K by Hibou@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T16:08:59.591768Z
       
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       @PunishedD @becassine I was thinking about these stereotypes about mid-crisis while writting my last post and noticed that I only know about them because of TV. It kinda pisses me of because it often trivialize loyalty and try to excuse having affairs. I kinda doubt what I think I know because I learned it feom the TV. What came first, the propaganda or these issues? But that another issue. LolCrisis do happen however. I did have one when my life was going nowhere. However it was not about being mad at my wife and wanting to bang a younger girl.I just think people mostly put the bar way too high so people just can't ever be happy with what they've got.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVobPOUmEuM2iGvyK by PunishedD@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T16:23:38.314969Z
       
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       @Hibou @becassine Yeah, the stereotype is quit/car/affair.  It doesn't manifest the same way for everyone, but I think those three cover the sources of angst common across all men:  progression, status, family life.  Even if you're fine with your family life, it's still very likely you'll react strongly in the other ways when your work life reveals its meaninglessness.Women are only now developing their own stereotype in the same areas.  Cat mom, wine aunt, the do-gooder who quits a corporate job to work for advocacy groups.   Leaving a long term relationship to jump into serial dating; trying open marriages; paying for expensive "experiences" vacations.  "Why won't men marry me now that my career is on track", or demanding social justice in their workplace when they can't find anywhere else to infuse meaning.It's all the usual articles CatParty posts over on the main forum that get a dozen "of course you're miserable now" comments.  I don't know if they will coalesce into the same stereotype as men get, but there's enough commonality to make one.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVpBaCg47CpzazfSS by Hibou@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T16:30:10.230002Z
       
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       @PunishedD @becassine Unmarried women had there stereotype but I don't think it was as depressing as what it has become.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIVpjSgkVp2mWzDKsq by PunishedD@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T16:36:18.344992Z
       
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       @Hibou @becassine I know married women with loving husbands and kids, who hit that point strictly because of discovering how pointless the career part of their lives was.  They quit and become part time teachers, or community volunteers, or political advocates in their previous industry.   But they had the strong family life to fall back on.Take that family away, and you get singlecatm0m wondering why her career-funded, Instagram-fueled vacations feel so empty.
       
 (DIR) Post #AIW2Nebso4IwXQryRk by cumsnake@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-16T17:47:59.841643Z
       
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       @PunishedD @Hibou @becassine not to be too gay about it but i kind of notice that these whole mid life crisis meme really only came about in the last 50 years or so and also coincided closely with declines in effective wages and family cohesionwhen you work an okay job but take pride in it because it reinforces your identity as a patriarch who supports your family then theres not much crisiswhen your family is the most important thing to you and your pride then whether youre a ceo or a janitor starts to matter a lot lessbut popular mindsets become self centered at the same time as jobs provide less cash and status and the cracks start to form and that middle aged accountant is going to hit the gym and hit on his secretary to feel like an alpha chad againthinking about all of that the stereotypes for women are already forming a solid archetype - in the same way she decided that the most important thing was money and status but thats actually really hard to get, and in the meantime her romantic life was a diversion instead of an attempt to build a family, but the moment of epiphany is held out of reach because it seems more likely that its other people who are slighting her rather than her own prioritiesand if that seems misogynistic and unfair, compare it to the sleazy 43 year old sales guy who might be in admittedly good shape, is divorced, rakes in solid commission cash, is rumored to bang half the new receptionists, but also if you have two drinks with him at the bar will start complaining that all women are whores especially his ex wifeits a bunch of people who struggle to find meaning and pursue a sort of self reliance to solve it in place of family or community; when it fails to fulfill their lives, that same self centeredness means they blame other people for not helping them
       
 (DIR) Post #AIWIONL06n8gWdL4m8 by CodenameChen@shitposter.club
       2022-04-16T16:02:36.298428Z
       
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       @CrushBead @PunishedD @Hibou @becassine doesn't external testosterone down-regulate the production of your own testosterone, making you dependent on external testosterone? not counting the complications from steroid hormones in general
       
 (DIR) Post #AIWIONwDsOugO4knnE by CrushBead@shitposter.club
       2022-04-16T16:12:51.641475Z
       
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       @CodenameChen @Hibou @PunishedD @becassine Yes, exogenic androgens suppress the HPGA and result in your body becoming dependent upon them. For a healthy young men this is dumb idea and probably the result of some sort of body dysmorphia causing them to feel the need to be something they are not. If you are a man who is experiencing the natural loss of test production that comes with age then it doesn't have much of a negative effect at therapeutic dosages. Instead TRT allows you to essentially extend your physical peak far longer than it should and provides massive long term health benefits like maintaining muscle mass, bone density, and lower body fat.If you are a young man who messes up your HPGA it could potentially become a life long issue which can only be restored through hCG therapy. hCG mimics the luteinizing hormone that regulates the HPGA. The therapy involves taking large doses of hCG over a period of six months which forces your hypothalamus, pituitary gland, and gonads to reset and return to a normal Testosterone production cycle.