Post AI8c6Cl49D384zXWym by lpwaterhouse@mastodon.technology
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(DIR) Post #AI8YclOCWdGQw77AQK by evelyn@misskey.bubbletea.dev
2022-04-05T11:06:14.786Z
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cloud services in general are a scam, they rely on convincing you that a specific company's services are a "technology" in their own right, and guess what, they're not, if AWS raises its prices, you can't run AWS on another cheaper provider
(DIR) Post #AI8Ym1aneSP1nPQKki by evelyn@misskey.bubbletea.dev
2022-04-05T11:07:55.034Z
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and the prices are already extortionate, my favourite anecdote was from pinboard of all places, he made a profitable site by using traditional hosting, and a company tried to (maybe did? idr) sell a competitor to him, they found that the same business with a similar userbase was unprofitable, simply because they hosted it on AWS and their expenses were astronomical compared
(DIR) Post #AI8ae5DuT5pWeG3f84 by evelyn@misskey.bubbletea.dev
2022-04-05T11:28:53.596Z
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We have similar revenue per active user. I gross $12,000 a month, they gross $5,000.But where the projects differ radically is cost. ACME hosts their service on AWS, and at one point they were paying $23,000 (!!) in monthly fees. Through titanic effort, they have been able to reduce that to $9,000 a month.I pay just over a thousand dollars a month for hosting, using my own equipment. That figure includes the amortized cost of my hardware, and sodas from the vending machine at the colo.So while I consider bookmarking a profitable business, to them it's a $4,000/month money pit. I'm living large off the same income stream that is driving them to sell their user data to marketers and get the hell out of the game. https://idlewords.com/talks/website_obesity.htm
(DIR) Post #AI8c6Cl49D384zXWym by lpwaterhouse@mastodon.technology
2022-04-05T11:35:56Z
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@evelyn So true. And there's one big company I've worked for that tried avoiding vendor lock-in by setting up their own kubernetes clusters on top of AWS and mandating that only devops (aka admins, not developers) may create new instances, in order to control cost... Worst of all worlds... I wish I was kidding...
(DIR) Post #AI8c6DQXf0E69cwecy by evelyn@misskey.bubbletea.dev
2022-04-05T11:45:11.233Z
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@lpwaterhouse@mastodon.technology aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
(DIR) Post #AI8dNMsBtSzqKMcWUC by lpwaterhouse@mastodon.technology
2022-04-05T11:54:33Z
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@evelyn Yep, my jaw dropped hard when they told me that was the plan migrating off their simple existing our-own-datacenter infrastructure. It was "too inflexible and expensive" and hip & young devs had talked them into "AWS is cheap" (which, as you point out, it absolutely isn't) and their admin staff made their case against vendor lock-in, and so... I tried talking sense into them, but I just got official reprimands: "not a team player", "totally outdated ideas" *shrug*
(DIR) Post #AI8dNNWFUX2UKbMVvM by evelyn@misskey.bubbletea.dev
2022-04-05T11:59:28.817Z
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@lpwaterhouse@mastodon.technology if it's an outdated mindset then I'm proudly outdated
(DIR) Post #AI8dl074AONAgjqaZ6 by MK2boogaloo@freespeechextremist.com
2022-04-05T12:03:46.633356Z
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@evelyn @lpwaterhouse >not using horrible services hosted by Am*zon>get called outdatedIT people nowadays lost something that a nerd from the 90s used to have, it's called principle.
(DIR) Post #AI8e6fjobKM5rpIzuy by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2022-04-05T12:07:40.060347Z
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@evelyn >Sydneyeyyyyyyyy Aussie Aussie Aussie
(DIR) Post #AI8eicwxPnymDyYDa4 by evelyn@misskey.bubbletea.dev
2022-04-05T12:14:32.105Z
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@MK2boogaloo@freespeechextremist.com @lpwaterhouse@mastodon.technology I think people lost more than just principles, technology has never been more advanced and people have never been less in touch with what's possible with it, so many possibilities overlooked and dismissed that people 20 years ago would have killed for, because they're just not fashionable any more
(DIR) Post #AI8feRnh1hiGROmwMa by MK2boogaloo@freespeechextremist.com
2022-04-05T12:25:00.172792Z
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@evelyn @lpwaterhouse also that. The first is principle, the second is intelligence.
(DIR) Post #AI8s7Tboa4BrthqCvI by leo@60228.dev
2022-04-05T14:44:08Z
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@evelyn "if AWS raises its prices" to be completely fair, afaik this has literally never happened
(DIR) Post #AI8s7ULtoj3OCdP0kq by evelyn@misskey.bubbletea.dev
2022-04-05T14:44:40.369Z
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@leo@60228.dev its prices are pretty horrific to begin with tbqh
(DIR) Post #AI8shEjbMQioBrXEMC by leo@60228.dev
2022-04-05T14:48:08Z
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@evelyn actually, there's this one time when domestic SMS rates in India were increased in response to Indian regulations that mandated ???? blockchain ???? https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2020/08/price-change-notice-for-customers-using-amazon-pinpoint-to-send-sms-messages-to-india/
(DIR) Post #AI8shFPmpaSwIhGv6u by evelyn@misskey.bubbletea.dev
2022-04-05T14:51:07.448Z
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@leo@60228.dev the indian government did fucking what lmfao