Post AI85lT7SvNeCD05MYq by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
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 (DIR) Post #AI7Q2CloldW4LoG3KS by dave@gleasonator.com
       2022-04-04T21:55:17.050053Z
       
       6 likes, 17 repeats
       
       In the event that Elon Musk’s purchase of ~10% of Twitter results in Twitter modifying its rules and moderation practices to be more politically neutral, would you start using it again?
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7QbdiaZFLu40dzoe by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
       2022-04-04T22:01:41Z
       
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       @dave Which one's the option to use both?
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7QfnTyCqxRVNmxqi by D-Droid@poa.st
       2022-04-04T22:02:27.261124Z
       
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       @dave I use twitter and fedi for different things, twitter is the best way to follow artists (from Japan) Fedi is essentially the new chan boards, which is how I want to talk about shit. Unless twitter goes back to the level of freedom back when you could shitpost and say nigger twitter is always going to be the place to look at art. I don't think Elon buying a portion of twitter is going to make it a place cool enough to hang out and post on.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7Qg0tyJUTt7n3PgO by dave@gleasonator.com
       2022-04-04T22:02:28.292971Z
       
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       That would have made a good 5th option
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7QsfkCHw5zGnWBvs by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
       2022-04-04T22:04:45Z
       
       4 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @dave It's worth noting that Tesla once fired an employee for posting a video of one of their self-driving cars that painted them in a bad light (according to Louis Rossmann). He is not a friend of free speech.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7R3fJAFXhj6S7ETw by dave@gleasonator.com
       2022-04-04T22:06:44.551176Z
       
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       This is true for most “free speech advocates”. They just want to be able to say what they want on social media with no consequences, don’t necessarily want that protection for people that criticize them or say things they despise.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7R69ndqzaUFZYkMq by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
       2022-04-04T22:07:12Z
       
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       @dave So true.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7R8l8nzTBCdphQCu by dave@gleasonator.com
       2022-04-04T22:07:40.312904Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       Early results for those with federation issues
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7RFnFGZ7PZC84joG by lain@lain.com
       2022-04-04T22:08:52.867650Z
       
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       @Hyolobrika @dave me not insulting my wife in public is not an issue of free speech, although i think the whole concept is not really useful.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7RKj5bRbV9kluLEO by dave@gleasonator.com
       2022-04-04T22:09:49.234708Z
       
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       although i think the whole concept is not really useful.OK German
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7RLg1kJaTOXtYauW by Moon@shitposter.club
       2022-04-04T22:10:00.865750Z
       
       7 likes, 6 repeats
       
       @dave @Hyolobrika free speech is legalizing the most spiritually destructive pornography imaginable with the pretense of protecting political speech, then shutting down political speech and keeping the pornography
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7RUeP1ixSe76j2OG by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
       2022-04-04T22:11:38Z
       
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       @lain @dave Choosing to be polite about someone you presumably love is not an issue of free speech, no. Also, insulting a loved one and criticising devices that can easily kill a person if defective are not remotely the same thing.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7RZidPPvXSgdrxOy by lain@lain.com
       2022-04-04T22:12:29.692634Z
       
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       @Hyolobrika @dave when is it 'free speech' speech and when is it not, then?
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7RaK0kS7C0bk4cPw by dave@gleasonator.com
       2022-04-04T22:12:38.924319Z
       
       6 likes, 2 repeats
       
       Yeah it’s funny how Reddit banned /r/GenderCritical, but you could find dozens of fucked up porn subreddits like /r/painal or /r/BrokenFucktoys and those were OK. Tranny jannies are the worst.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7RdtdiRWg3yb0ML2 by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
       2022-04-04T22:13:18Z
       
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       @Moon @dave This is a joke, right?
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7Rg2nvL8rwylntDM by Moon@shitposter.club
       2022-04-04T22:13:41.904974Z
       
       4 likes, 2 repeats
       
       @Hyolobrika @dave No, that literally is the history of free speech in the USA
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7RrzSxZpOC6Kh6um by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
       2022-04-04T22:15:50Z
       
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       @lain @dave What I meant is that Musk might influence Twitter to remove criticism of him or his companies. And that would be just as problematic for society as their previous apparent political bias (and people's lives in the case of the aforementioned experimental self-driving cars).
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7RvTJX3kBvXdwdCy by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
       2022-04-04T22:16:28Z
       
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       @Moon @dave But not what free speech actually is.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7Rvi3QFvDZG1WTgG by shebang@freespeech.group
       2022-04-04T22:16:30.868996Z
       
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       @dave I only have a twitter account for JJVR, and its used only for VR stuff -- fedi really isn't big enough to have niche topics like that. Everything else though, nah, I like it here. I love the shitposters and troublemakers and edgelords that I've come to know. They're muh boys!
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7RzSMwVygNlkRLJg by dave@gleasonator.com
       2022-04-04T22:17:11.307845Z
       
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       The shutting down of political speech thing is just a consequence of private companies being allowed to decide who isn’t allowed on their networks, but because they’re basically the only game in town and they all have headquarters in the same liberal shithole (and therefore employees with the same politics), you’re getting the same standards enforced on everybody that aren’t representative of the country at large, and certainly not of places outside the USA.Technically, your free speech rights aren’t being violated when you get kicked off twitter because the 1st amendment only protects the government from punishing or censoring speech, not private companies.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7SAMU4je3UhcyaHo by cjd@mastodon.social
       2022-04-04T22:13:08Z
       
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       @lain @Hyolobrika @dave@gleasonator.com blah blah xkcd comic something
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7SFfjiaD3PrPpDqS by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
       2022-04-04T22:20:07.061677Z
       
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       @dave @Hyolobrika @Moon I also wonder how many of these "private companies" are secretly bank rolled by the government because of "national security." I suspect Google is for example. Twitter wouldn't surprise me.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7SNzNvPkDh7Fb6W0 by Moon@shitposter.club
       2022-04-04T22:21:32.012472Z
       
       4 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @Hyolobrika @dave I just know what American programming said and taught it was from my childhood up until a few years ago
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7SdJvRKLVBAIaHeC by bebe@poa.st
       2022-04-04T22:24:24.852338Z
       
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       @Humpleupagus @dave @Hyolobrika @Moon I remember Mr. Alex Jones mentioning that DARPA was working on facebook much before its release. Thank you friend.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7SdUGMtOBVE6S8em by izaya@social.shadowkat.net
       2022-04-04T22:24:23.541262Z
       
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       @dave People use Twitter? For what purpose?
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7Ss7IWYhpgLRRARM by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
       2022-04-04T22:27:04.007181Z
       
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       @bebe @Hyolobrika @dave @Moon And then they make government action, or action coerced by government actors, look like private action. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Microsoft was a government project, and Gates is and was just a front man.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7SvwP70GvJiVLH72 by Moon@shitposter.club
       2022-04-04T22:27:45.916338Z
       
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       @Humpleupagus @Hyolobrika @dave @bebe Oracle was a government project. They got their start building a database for the CIA.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7Sxfw7CVttDqbduS by LouisConde@poa.st
       2022-04-04T22:28:05.121635Z
       
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       @bebe @Humpleupagus @dave @Hyolobrika @Moon wired.com/2004/02/pentagon-kills-lifelog-project/
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7T3myhvsAYndjZ4K by neo@pl.comfysnug.space
       2022-04-04T22:29:11.465557Z
       
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       @LouisConde In other words, it's not dead at all, just being pushed more underground.@Hyolobrika @Humpleupagus @dave @bebe @Moon
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7T4CKBh9CpPUyZWK by BanditHeeler@poa.st
       2022-04-04T22:29:16.384687Z
       
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       @dave I'm not using anything I have to give a phone number for
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7TAfQmOJkJQ48zy4 by DasSauerkraut@comfyboy.club
       2022-04-04T22:30:25.946767Z
       
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       @bebe @Hyolobrika @Humpleupagus @dave @Moon Operation Lifelog I believe it was called.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7TSItGw0ykiwsgcq by RikaDerufu@shitposter.club
       2022-04-04T22:33:37.890961Z
       
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       @dave I "use" it in the sense that I check up regularly some accounts I like, but I do not have an account hence I do not interact with anyone. This autumn and partly on winter I was on Twitter, but I left because it's less fun than Fedi, even if it has more "content"
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7TSmsFSNz9iSdIC8 by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
       2022-04-04T22:33:42.519166Z
       
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       @dave Staying on Fedi, I will never trust Twitter, whereas on Fedi I'll always have many alternative instances I can quickly and almost seamlessly move over to should something happen to the one I'm currently on.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7TVoosgAzwcSVG2y by rru142@blovice.bahnhof.cz
       2022-04-04T22:33:30.496023Z
       
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       @Moon @Hyolobrika @Humpleupagus @dave @bebe (...and some guys from DEC doing RDB at that time were quite surprised... guess who bought it from DEC...)
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7TY0DhGS3yYW9TyC by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
       2022-04-04T22:34:37.661700Z
       
       4 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @DasSauerkraut @Hyolobrika @dave @bebe @Moon And let's not ignore that a guy who is allowed to build rockets that we wouldn't let some foreign governments build is likely himself an asset. I don't trust Elon. If he wasn't an asset, they would have crushed him by now. Just sayin'.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7TqstIjmXJKMcEFs by mrsaturday@shitposter.club
       2022-04-04T22:38:03.959710Z
       
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       @Hyolobrika @lain @dave People will bail hard on Twitter if it turns into a Tesla shill platform. A big reason why people accept the abuse Big Tech dumps on them is because Big Tech follows the media's lead (or maybe vice versa) on what you're allowed to mistreat people over. Musk is a billionaire, but he's not exactly friendly to the Cathedral.Not that he's our guy. Just look at what he's doing to the auto industry.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7UAzGmjNfku1BZqa by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
       2022-04-04T22:41:41Z
       
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       @MischievousTomato @dave @Moon which part do you not see a problem with? legalising disgusting pornography, banning political speech, or both?
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7UFMmjFBFQzZDPlI by ArdainianRight@detroitriotcity.com
       2022-04-04T22:42:29.643209Z
       
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       @mrsaturday @Hyolobrika @dave @lain Having a platform that's at least independent and doesn't reflexively do what everyone else does is a benefit.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7UKrnZMbXKcvEOum by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
       2022-04-04T22:43:29.276470Z
       
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       @Hyolobrika @lain @dave "What I meant is that Musk might influence Twitter to remove criticism of him or his companies. And that would be just as problematic for society as their previous apparent political bias"There's nothing "apparent" about Big Tech's political bias, censorship and blatant election interference. I also find that issues like gender and immigration affect my day-to-day life far more than Tesla and its cars - not that I for a second think that Elon will actually make Twitter go back to allowing actual wrongthink opinions, that won't be happening unless the US ends up with the kind of president that leftists falsely accused Trump of being.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7UOwVvm0kuPTvO2y by LukeAlmighty42@freespeechextremist.com
       2022-04-04T22:44:14.035183Z
       
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       @ChristiJunior @dave *Liked from an alt
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7URJOvePV1yKmN2e by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
       2022-04-04T22:44:38.757193Z
       
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       @ArdainianRight @mrsaturday @Hyolobrika @dave @lain It really doesn't get much worse than the GloboHomo groomers and genocidal anti-White freaks that currently run Big Tech.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7USXKzJxVNU7WIS0 by OvaryActing@glitterforest.xyz
       2022-04-04T22:44:52.706771Z
       
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       @dave @Hyolobrika @Moon derv, you are preaching to the chior muh man. i WENT OFF on the mods of r/GC back in the day because they had the absolute gull to tell me “lesbian issues weren’t feminist issues,” like wtf did you just say to me? Don’t ever use that arrangement of those words like that ever again. Before I got banned I warned them that the system they are allowing to be put into place( silencing women with serious concerns) is the same system that will eventually be used against them in the same way. 6 months later r/GC is shut down. That’s why im also ban from ovarit,found out r/GC became ovarit after the Reddit shut down and smug af took myself over there with lots of crow for all the mods/admin. 1 post, 10mins, Staff nuked my account.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7Uf1Uf1l8iUFzwzA by Moon@shitposter.club
       2022-04-04T22:47:07.337450Z
       
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       @OvaryActing @Hyolobrika @dave reddit mod is the lowest form of life that doesn't involve the real estate profession
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7Uttjm9B4Am8A2YC by DasSauerkraut@comfyboy.club
       2022-04-04T22:49:48.499071Z
       
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       @Humpleupagus @Hyolobrika @dave @bebe @Moon Maybe I'm wrong but to speculate, was he not born into a wealthy South African mining family? It was originally jewish mining operations that trucked infinty niggers into SA for cheap mining labor. For his family to be successful down their they probably would have to have associated with those other parties no? Or was his family's mine(s) soley employing Whites in South Africa? To say he doesn't have connections within this system sounds short sighted. He came to america and threw around a bunch of money on failed start ups before founding Paypal. What kind of financial connections does one need to setup something like paypal? Payment processing is heavily restricted due to lobbying. He then uses that big finance level money to start SpaceX and Tesla. The amount of people you gotta know to be that successful is staggering, and we know what kinds if people those are within the current world order.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7VPqqKRYNr47SkIS by chuculate@freespeechextremist.com
       2022-04-04T22:55:36.207409Z
       
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       @Moon I think that is how it went.@dave @Hyolobrika
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7Vv2xHSd5rbjabdg by chuculate@freespeechextremist.com
       2022-04-04T23:01:14.476145Z
       
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       @mrsaturday banning fossil fuel, turning cars into computers and wifi hotspots or what?@Hyolobrika @dave @lain
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7VziqDffl4foW3tY by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-04-04T23:02:04.231846Z
       
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       @Moon @Hyolobrika @Humpleupagus @dave @bebe So was google. Based on a grant from the CIA to find out how to censor the internet.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7W8fsu28fy6r2XdA by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-04-04T23:03:41.935698Z
       
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       @Moon @Humpleupagus @Hyolobrika @bebe @dave sauce for this claim here: https://qz.com/1145669/googles-true-origin-partly-lies-in-cia-and-nsa-research-grants-for-mass-surveillance/
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7WBaedw1ogl2lD28 by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-04-04T23:04:13.537061Z
       
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       @Humpleupagus @Hyolobrika @Moon @bebe @dave forgot it was nsa too and mass surveillance too
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7XN5dTBjZFz2G7NI by orekix@shitposter.club
       2022-04-04T23:17:30.213990Z
       
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       @Moon @Hyolobrika @dave not just free speech but the idea of freedom itself in the US has turned into radical individualism without any notion of common good
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7XQF9oFAImNntCM4 by orekix@shitposter.club
       2022-04-04T23:18:03.733436Z
       
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       @Moon @Hyolobrika @dave basically the US is a satanic regime, grandma was right
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7XuRU4ycpFIlloqe by Earmuffs@bae.st
       2022-04-04T23:23:32.054621Z
       
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       @orekixDios mio :jahy_deported:  @Hyolobrika @dave @Moon
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7Xz9ok5Yr5xPgRay by orekix@shitposter.club
       2022-04-04T23:24:23.294647Z
       
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       @Elfie @Hyolobrika @dave @Moon :mexican_sadge:
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7a3SCVshzu2TyjwG by mrsaturday@shitposter.club
       2022-04-04T23:47:34.496617Z
       
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       @chuculate @Hyolobrika @dave @lain Taking away ownership in favor of EULAs. He's the Steve Jobs of the auto industry and people like him because he's a memer and isn't a Bezos-style corpocrat.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7aNBzjqR3fZJPoxc by mrsaturday@shitposter.club
       2022-04-04T23:51:08.381210Z
       
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       @ArdainianRight @Hyolobrika @dave @lain It is, but people are trained to accept certain abuses (owning chuds) and not accept others (thou shalt not post pictures of Tesla's shop class-tier weld jobs). They'll run for Facebook or Reddit or something because the concave on their faces is designed to accommodate globohomo boots.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7b0wjK1BaPoDh16G by napsiborko@shitposter.club
       2022-04-04T23:56:27.196074Z
       
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       @ChristiJunior @dave how do you 'seemlessly' move instances on fedi? don't you lose your old id and all your data, follows etc?
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7b0xJTqkVfcMbtSa by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
       2022-04-04T23:58:18.895223Z
       
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       @napsiborko @dave You can import the people you follow, and you'll already be familiar with the community. You'll continue interacting with the same people, just from a different instance.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7bPqaVzVxY01RmjY by a7@bae.st
       2022-04-05T00:02:49.713242Z
       
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       @dave well it looks like some people still need to go back to the campsScreen Shot 2022-04-04 at 7.02.20 PM.png
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7eY9zC3MogLAe6F6 by craig@shitposter.club
       2022-04-05T00:37:56.733420Z
       
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       @Humpleupagus @Hyolobrika @dave @Moon Google has never been close to losing money, so I don't think they're so beholden.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI7lz9biGixUfDTvou by dave@gleasonator.com
       2022-04-05T02:01:14.077178Z
       
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       120 votes, 5 out of 6 are all in on fedi.I was expecting it to be the most popular option, but not by that margin.Should have included a “maybe I’ll use both” line in Option #3 because as it is now the poll is an either/or deal.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI803psURrDWHRSJlY by ArdainianRight@detroitriotcity.com
       2022-04-05T04:38:58.033094Z
       
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       @mrsaturday @Hyolobrika @dave @lain It would definitely alter who does and doesn't use Twitter. Twitter already changed after it banned the badthinkers and Tumblrfags migrated over after the porn ban. Of course Elon's also just participating in the oligarch media arms race like Bezos buying Wapo. Having outlets to amplify favorable narratives and suppress unfavorable ones can be important to not become a target.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI85lT7SvNeCD05MYq by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
       2022-04-05T05:42:52.757571Z
       
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       @dave I never used it.  I had an account that was only used to enter promotions that required it but eventually I deleted it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI998fP5uacfzN2owi by alyx@blob.cat
       2022-04-05T17:55:23.302910Z
       
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       @dave While the "safety council" and their biased moderation has been part of the reason why I left Twitter, I don't know if it was the primary reason and it's definitely not the reason I never went back. Twitter is simply too toxic overall. I'd take a Kiwifarms.cc user in my feed over the average Twitter one any day of the week.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI9UbFsZzJt6GHJEDg by dave@gleasonator.com
       2022-04-05T21:55:50.804690Z
       
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       Final results for those with federation issues
       
 (DIR) Post #AI9VLwZBbtX7yTV7Q0 by Sophistifunk@noagendasocial.com
       2022-04-05T22:04:17Z
       
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       @dave fwiw I got the completion notification here on NAS.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI9VhgFGyMYvj4YFWq by dave@gleasonator.com
       2022-04-05T22:08:12.877207Z
       
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       Yeah the notifications usually get delivered. The issue is that some instances don’t get a full list of votes sometimes and they think very few people voted. This is for those people.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI9WE4HV8vSnXT2Nma by TadanoHitonari@poa.st
       2022-04-05T22:05:36.634178Z
       
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       @dave Never used twitter and never will
       
 (DIR) Post #AI9Z24nlgLJZXZ6TpI by caekislove@poa.st
       2022-04-05T22:45:20.253691Z
       
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       @dave I voted "I'd use it again", but even if they stopped arbitrary bans they also need to stop filtering and shadowbanning. My old twitter account had around 2,000 followers and sometimes I'd tweet something and get no engagement whatsoever because the algorithm decided not to show my content to anyone following me.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI9ZMOJArnVppYTq4W by dave@gleasonator.com
       2022-04-05T22:49:11.749195Z
       
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       The filtering and shadowbanning thing is the fucking worst. You’ll hit that “show potentially offensive replies” and see the most benign shit that no one could possibly consider offensive, realize 90% of the time the function is useless, and then find out there’s no way to turn the fucking thing off.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI9b7pPU1L5TRwcBOq by Sunliver@kiwifarms.cc
       2022-04-05T23:08:22.875697Z
       
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       @dave The ADL is still going to have final say on participation and content altogether, so anyone expecting a sea change are going to be disappointed.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI9b7q5JVoY1XgBabI by dave@gleasonator.com
       2022-04-05T23:08:58.805370Z
       
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       Wait, why would the ADL have final say?
       
 (DIR) Post #AI9loktNgzUvQphuka by Moon@shitposter.club
       2022-04-06T01:08:47.670623Z
       
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       @roboneko @Hyolobrika @dave it's not cut and dried because public spaces have dwindled and been replaced with private spaces. One of the reasons that Occupy Wall Street had such a hard time was that they couldn't actually even get close to actual Wall Street because the entire island is privately owned. Similarly on the Internet you can scream on your blog all day but everybody is on Twitter.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI9vrwukRycB7zVaBE by guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info
       2022-04-06T03:01:23.962185Z
       
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       @roboneko @dave @Hyolobrika @Moon In the US (which, let's be honest, is the only jurisdiction that matters in this case), these private public squares enjoy exemptions from liability for user-generated posts that were given to them because it was deemed that making them liable for these posts would have a chilling effect on the growth of the Internet as these service providers would have to enact draconian methods to avoid lawsuits (having to manually approve every post, for instance) or just give up entirely.Now that it's made apparent that these companies have the means of curating speech and are perfectly fine with using them (in controversial ways, not just removing CP or snuff content), then I think it's clear they could also use these methods to remove speech that would expose them to lawsuits. It would follow that with all those tools at their disposal; speech that DOES remain on these platforms is tacitly endorsed by these companies. The laws should be updated so that applying non-neutral curation tools and methods exposes them to liability.
       
 (DIR) Post #AI9wCeyMLuQxZ14b4a by guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info
       2022-04-06T03:05:09.847703Z
       
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       @roboneko @Hyolobrika @Moon @dave Or more succintly; you can't go "Noooo, government, you can't force us to control what people say on our platforms, that would force us to restrict their speech!"And then turn around and go "FUCK your free speech, I'm a private company, not the government"
       
 (DIR) Post #AI9yKqkEfR3WIdV2wq by PorkCow@freespeechextremist.com
       2022-04-06T03:29:04.001020Z
       
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       @guizzy @roboneko @Hyolobrika @Moon @dave Catching (((protected persons))) in the act of literal pedophilia and murder doesn't seem to do much, so it kind of doesn't matter how clear the legal language becomes regarding the many existing laws that have already been broken by Twitter.