Post AHq7QAgANICLJDMPdg by lyrabon@equestria.social
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(DIR) Post #AHq7QACOA0NXorQdE0 by emacsen@emacsen.net
2022-03-27T12:47:13Z
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@craigmaloney This is how I feel about the BeOS community circa the late 1990s and early 2000s. I think they genuinely believed that this "Linux fad" would run itself out and they'd rise victorious at the end.
(DIR) Post #AHq7QAgANICLJDMPdg by lyrabon@equestria.social
2022-03-27T12:54:00Z
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@emacsen @craigmaloney š¬ BeOS at least had the possibility of living on as OS X if NeXT hadnāt gotten in the way. š¬
(DIR) Post #AHq7QB9abtjYmT7uV6 by emacsen@emacsen.net
2022-03-27T12:57:05Z
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@lyrabon @craigmaloney But once that happened, Be was in a new position of being an extreme underdog, squeezed by Microsoft and Apple on one side, and Linux/BSD on the other.It's best chance of survival would have been to pull a Netscape and release its core product as FLOSS and figure out some new way to make money.
(DIR) Post #AHq7QBeQlEP6K7YXZY by emacsen@emacsen.net
2022-03-27T12:58:45Z
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@lyrabon @craigmaloney This may seem far-fetched, but you consider how much more advanced the BeOS desktop was than Linux in 1998, it would have been a no-brainer to use a FLOSS BeOS.
(DIR) Post #AHq7QC792TN9lAzTKS by murph@fosstodon.org
2022-03-27T13:36:32Z
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@emacsen @lyrabon @craigmaloney Similar deal with the Amiga, but looking back to '91, it had so much going for it compared to Windows of the day.
(DIR) Post #AHq7QIkMNaJ2KXNsHo by emacsen@emacsen.net
2022-03-27T13:07:15Z
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@lyrabon @craigmaloney Sorry, one last one about Be as a viable OS in 1998... In 1998, KDE was released, and GNOME wasn't released until a year later.Most Linux users were stuck with fvwm.BeOS also competed with OS2 Warp, but OS2 had some portion of the integrated market in things like ATMs. Be didn't even have that.If Be had been viable, I suspect they'd have been able to port the GNU tools to it and gained a huge market advantage.
(DIR) Post #AHq7nRW7wAZaBwlGpU by murph@fosstodon.org
2022-03-27T13:40:48Z
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@craigmaloney I'm not delusional about a comeback to the glory days, but it would be nice to see the Amiga persist in retro circles strongly enough to see some interesting projects grow from it.
(DIR) Post #AHq8GR9cMkuLSo3gMy by murph@fosstodon.org
2022-03-27T13:46:03Z
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@craigmaloney Oh, yeah, there are delusions. I'm just a fan that's at least partially grounded in reality.(I was going to put just "grounded in reality" but I couldn't make my fingers type it)
(DIR) Post #AHq8Nm7CpcKcV5QgHQ by emacsen@emacsen.net
2022-03-27T13:47:17Z
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@murph @lyrabon @craigmaloney I agree, with one big exception. The Amiga was wonderful, but the Amiga team imagined the OS and the computer as inseparable, which was understandable in 1991.Be already knew that its Be Box was going to be less popular than the BeOS and was selling and even giving away gratis copies of BeOS in the late 90s.It was looking to be acquired by Apple. That was its goal. When that didn't happen, it simply failed to pivot.
(DIR) Post #AHqO6r7WZGtCMpX4XA by tek@freeradical.zone
2022-03-27T16:43:28Z
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@craigmaloney @Jo @suetanvil It was my daily driver until ā99 or so, and I wasnāt a big gamer. It was just genuinely pleasant (and fun) as a desktop.Honestly, *thatās* the legacy I wish would gain traction: a dedicated single user desktop OS optimized for the task.
(DIR) Post #AHr4MBYZ46ZKARAlAu by jeff@toot.rainbow-100.com
2022-03-28T00:36:53Z
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@craigmaloney I regularly visit the Amiga websites despite not even owning (or emulating) one because Amiga users, at least the vocal ones, are a special kind of nutbar.They really think that AmigaOS has some sort of future even though it has countless issues in the modern world (32-bit, no memory protection, single core). They do love talking about lawsuits and corporate reorganization as if the involved ācompaniesā actually employ people. So good!