Post AHLVC4DZBd7jPcIJsm by namark@qoto.org
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(DIR) Post #AHLKrHrGHJbE5sJXUG by ztx@qoto.org
2022-03-12T16:27:38Z
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#duckduckgo #censorship #alertDuckDuckGo has started to filter "Russian disinformation". If nothing seems wrong to you right now, ask yourself - what makes DuckDuckGo eligible to make decisions on what is disinformation and what isn't? On what's right and what's wrong? Why not just let us think for ourselves, why should THEY decide what information reaches us? Do we need another Google? No, we don't.We have absolutely no reason to trust and use DDG on anything anymore, and I'm not speaking to Russians here. I'm speaking about everyone, anywhere, no matter what you believe and stand for.DDG just became yet another biased and censored service. To hell with it.
(DIR) Post #AHLKrIGmkQ13N2FvGq by namark@qoto.org
2022-03-12T17:11:08Z
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@ztx Whoever owns the servers has the right to do whatever they want with them. Most search engines filter results by relevance, using secret unverifiable criteria, that's a given. They are not obligated to make it fair, or even tell you anything about it. The only promise DDG made to you (not even a paying customer, who nevertheless feels entitled) is that they will not track you and personalize search results. You never had any reason to trust anything that they said, because there is no transparency, no standards, no guarantees or warranties, but it helps to at least understand what they said.
(DIR) Post #AHLOYJnLFjr6Pngupc by ztx@qoto.org
2022-03-12T17:52:32Z
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@namark you're completely missing the point I'm making. Yes, they can do what they want, did you saw me demanding something from them? No, I won't ask DDG to re-think their decision, that's stupid. I'm just gonna tell people about what they did, what I think about it and then they will decide for themselves if they still want to use it. The most important part of this post is to spread the info.
(DIR) Post #AHLRHa99VIeY4KbVlA by namark@qoto.org
2022-03-12T18:23:07Z
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@ztx > what makes DuckDuckGo eligible to make decisions> Why not just let us think for ourselves, why should THEY decideYou are literally asking why they are allowed to do what they want with the service they provide to you for free. You are implying that they mus let you decide how the filtering is done, or not filter at all. You feel entitled to these things, which were never the case, btw. > Do we need another GoogleThe only difference between DDG and Google with regard to policy is tracking users, and that has not changed, according to them. > We have absolutely no reason to trust and use DDG on anything anymore> DDG just becameIt was always filtering and it was never transparent as to how. Nothing just became anything that it wasn't. > The most important part of this post is to spread the info.Sure your little message in this tiny corner of the internet that barely anyone cares about will spread way better than the official announcement on twitter. Important work you're doing here harping on fads.
(DIR) Post #AHLU6QR1ZTt4cqKqaO by ztx@qoto.org
2022-03-12T18:54:43Z
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@namark> You are literally asking why they are allowed to do what they want > You are implying that they must let you decide how the filtering is done, or not filter at all.This is more of a rhetorical question, which only purpose is to point out the obvious.---> You feel entitled to these things, which were never the case, btw. Entitled to what? To call out on that? I can talk about it and share my opinion on it on a different site from theirs just as much as they can do whatever they want with their site.---> The only difference between DDG and Google with regard to policy is tracking users, and that has not changed, according to them. I'm not arguing with that. I'm not here to talk about what DDG was before this very day and what DDG are saying about themselves. I know too many people, who thinks differently about DDG, than what it really is. So you can continue to point out the obvious if you want, but I don't care.---> Sure your little message in this tiny corner blah blah blah...Yeah, right, because you know exactly where, when and how much posts I've made. And, somehow, because this number will be less, than number of views on the official twitter post, I... should not talk at all? If this is what you're implying, then that's not even stupid, that's idiotic.Now, excuse me, but that's all the time I'm willing to spend reading and replying to you.
(DIR) Post #AHLVC4DZBd7jPcIJsm by namark@qoto.org
2022-03-12T19:06:55Z
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@ztx > This is more of a rhetorical question, which only purpose is to point out the obvious.The point out what? That nothing has changed? That DDG and it's backends were filtering the results without telling you how since forever? No, because now when it told you one specific detail, you are trying to imply that this is something new somehow? You simply never cared about it being transparent or fair when it comes to filtering, because if you did you would have known that it isn't, and that never promised to be. > Entitled to what?Entitled to decide how DDG should filter, when this free service didn't even promise you anything on that front, and was always filtering without telling you how, and without any guarantees of fairness, and with completely subjective and secret criteria of relevance.> number will be lessnumbers will not be less, there will be exactly one number, 0, because everyone and their granma is on this now, not thanks to you Read: fad.
(DIR) Post #AHLWENpLLnLalLdHnc by ztx@qoto.org
2022-03-12T19:18:34Z
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@namark Thank you for the kind words, your comment, surely, matters to me!