Post AHIeiIS07ZCevzbqF6 by selea@social.linux.pizza
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 (DIR) Post #AHHhIdZN5IXXbnYMAS by charlie_root@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-10T22:03:34Z
       
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       Just type "israel bomb hospital gaza" in google...During COVID moreover... I was on mastodon at that time, I don't remember having seen the same 2.0 keen interest with flags 🇵🇸  blooming everywhere . https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-gaza-hospitals-targeted-amid-heavy-israeli-bombardment#natural #racism
       
 (DIR) Post #AHHhIe25MXVb2qzHvM by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-10T23:03:26Z
       
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       @charlie_root That was a lot of protest against that shit.But somehow, people always forget that.. including you.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHHhQ5GYVY09XEIqyu by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-10T23:04:50Z
       
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       @charlie_root Since mastodon did not show trends until last month, it was also very easy to miss. If you check Twitter instead you'll see the outtage against those crimes more clearly.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHHiSwbrFTFVViC8wK by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-10T23:16:31Z
       
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       @charlie_root Also, I am not 100% sure that I personally would call it racism, since the it is a deeply religious conflict which is not going to be solved soon :/And it does not get better since all the christian idiots in the world defend this facist actions
       
 (DIR) Post #AHIOOhwa1u8CwSY9pI by oklomsy@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T07:06:22Z
       
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       @selea I myself was at a local protest organized by Palestinians. What the actual fuck, why do people forget.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHIOePC9VNj9QWJpgW by charlie_root@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T07:09:14Z
       
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       @selea "Racism from the west."I was not calling israeli racist even though they are.I heard enough crap on official channels about "blue eyes" these days regarding ukrainian and why "we should care".
       
 (DIR) Post #AHIUEhfwlueswHNmuO by charlie_root@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T08:11:47Z
       
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       @selea I saw the protest but from usual borderline instances.Here (masto, framapiaf, etc...) in camp of the good folk...Israel has been not cut off from internet, swift, etc...Anyway...ps: accessory, they are still participating to Eurovision (:))
       
 (DIR) Post #AHIWrUnMnIg4C3TjEW by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T08:41:12Z
       
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       @charlie_rootI know that you meant "racism from the west".What official channels?The term "Why we should care" is not racist, you have to give more context.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHIZKWwI6NQ59IcpPM by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T09:08:45Z
       
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       @charlie_root > Israel has been not cut off from internet, swift, etc...Many countries and companies boycot israeli product already.Ever heard of the BDS movement? Or how many Also, dont forget that in the wake of the antiwar protest against israel - there is a significant numbers of people that "hate jews", that is incredibly common.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israelhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycott,_Divestment_and_Sanctionshttps://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/12/24/un-condemns-israel-most-in-2020-almost-three-times-rest-of-worldSo I really dont know what you are talking about.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHIZPHXgm41YqQNqW8 by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T09:09:44Z
       
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       @charlie_root >I saw the protest but from usual  borderline instances.>Here (masto, framapiaf, etc...) in camp of the good folk...You are still new here on fediverse, and you have missed alot.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHIaTP075NJb5aCvPE by charlie_root@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T09:21:43Z
       
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       @selea don't play the stupid with me, please.I and always talk from The West point of view.The good guys, you know.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHIcgvw29Fe6uCsZOK by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T09:46:33Z
       
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       @charlie_root > don't play the stupid with me, please.But what are you trying to say? You initially started with that "the west does not care about the warcrimes israel does" - which is completely untrue and stupid claim.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHIeM17hrZP4p8UdNY by charlie_root@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T10:05:11Z
       
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       @selea it is. it does not translate thru any effective action.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHIeiIS07ZCevzbqF6 by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T10:09:12Z
       
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       @charlie_root Not effective enough - is the more correct term. And not against the correct industries too.please remember that religion plays a HUGE part in this, basically every christian in the world is supporting israel and defending its actions.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHIhgGHPWLyfU8NRHk by charlie_root@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T10:42:22Z
       
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       @selea And what do you think Ukraine is ?
       
 (DIR) Post #AHIhj2GI61HUsTAyQ4 by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T10:42:55Z
       
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       @charlie_root What are you implying?
       
 (DIR) Post #AHIiUL4fy7jApnIc1A by charlie_root@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T10:51:29Z
       
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       @selea "Every christian in the world ..."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_UkraineAdd to that they are *white*... I am sorry Selea but you try hard to justify what is a clear racist behavior which is in fact, part of the our propaganda.The difference is, I assume that we are guilty here.Who is silent, consent.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHIif5R2SJLDW0ssL2 by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T10:53:25Z
       
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       @charlie_root I really dont know what you are refering to here - why do you post stuff regarding the ukrainian ortodox church? I am sorry, but I am not following, and if you are trying to make this into a religious conflict - you are sadly wrong.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHIirhc4KwobOg3j6G by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T10:55:43Z
       
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       @charlie_root > I am sorry Selea but you try hard to justify what is a clear racist behavior which is in fact, part of the our propaganda.No, I am not justifying racism.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHIuL7vIh6OstGHtnk by charlie_root@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T13:04:18Z
       
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       @selea hooooo come on.Not, you introduced religious as reason to support Israel.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHJ16M9WCtlUMCqGYa by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T14:19:53Z
       
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       @charlie_root You clearly dont understand that conflict and my point.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHJ2C1swZbhFBtMHGy by charlie_root@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T14:32:17Z
       
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       No, this is too easy, @selea You put the religious topic to justify Israel western support. I didn't say this is the reason of the Russia/Ukraine war.But as it is your excuse, I have also pointed to you that Ukraine is in majority christian.So, the over-zealot treatment in comparison of let's say : Syria, Lybia, Yemen, Iraqi. And as these country have christians too, this argument does not work.This is just a white-ass - like mine - propaganda.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHJ6ZJAAts2FFpm1h2 by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T15:21:18Z
       
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       @charlie_root Again, you did not understand. Either by purpose or you have no idea how big of a role Israel has in christianity.Addition to that, you are drawing some insane conclusion about me and are not able to understand what I said
       
 (DIR) Post #AHJ7ggChjWdahB2HGS by charlie_root@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T15:33:51Z
       
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       @selea Just to be sure, I never ever assumed you were racist. I don't link your support to Ukraine's people (I won't say country) from this premise.I do think you are an humanist but because of that I do think you don't get the manipulation/propaganda here form this over-zealot support.I am pretty sure by starting with, " look, there are militarized neo-nazis in Ukraine", the mainstream would not have followed. And I see that in the office as topic is opening.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHJGmjZv01MYUBr78i by otso@pleroma.karjalazet.se
       2022-03-11T17:12:35.492057Z
       
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       @selea @charlie_root not all Jews are Zioniststhis video from 2017 explains some of the connections between Zionists and evangelical Christians.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzYqimDCyjs
       
 (DIR) Post #AHJGmk2zFwcBwLSKRs by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T17:15:43Z
       
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       @otso Good video that scratches the surface of the unconditional support from christians all over the world for israel - the support that makes them blind and comes up with all kind of excuses to defend their actions
       
 (DIR) Post #AHJGpczdwHIavoGgaW by selea@social.linux.pizza
       2022-03-11T17:16:04Z
       
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       @otso > not all Jews are ZionistsAbsolutely! Not everyone understands that sadly.