Post AHFRWDT7VAFtVO67LU by kenny@social.kennyqin.com
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 (DIR) Post #AFIo4Di87PGfgCUdpw by Mehrad@fosstodon.org
       2022-01-10T16:08:46Z
       
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       I'm seeing more and more of my friends (non-tech savvy and big facebook users) are joining #Signal. This is good, meaning that they have finally got convinced to give it a try.The bad news is that we haven't seen any feature-packed update from Signal for perhaps a year or more. With the current Signal state, it would not appeal to people who are well used to the features that WhatsApp, Messenger, and Telegram provide. It is very very likely that they uninstall after trying Signal for few hours
       
 (DIR) Post #AHFRW997ZZsi6Ci5cO by ilia@mstdn.social
       2022-01-10T18:09:42Z
       
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       @Mehrad Why not Matrix?
       
 (DIR) Post #AHFRW9bpqoqlXG91NI by Mehrad@fosstodon.org
       2022-01-10T18:13:29Z
       
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       @iliaSimple: you cannot really delete anything from Matrix. In majority of "secure" messengers you can auto remove messages in groups and chats by setting expiration time, but in Matrix it is not possible. The devs of Matrix have argued that this is because in a decentralized setup, all the participating instances in that room should comply with removing those from their instance and that is something that is not doable.  :blobcatshrug:
       
 (DIR) Post #AHFRWA24HHpkqcPyGO by danialbehzadi@persadon.com
       2022-01-10T19:31:27Z
       
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       @Mehrad @ilia Why do you want your messages to be deleted to begin with?
       
 (DIR) Post #AHFRWAVUVtMyJsBT7o by Mehrad@fosstodon.org
       2022-01-10T23:50:39Z
       
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       @danialbehzadi @iliaBecause there is no need for majority of my messages to stay. Shopping lists, discussion about where and when to meet, work gossip, where to have food, news, holidays, condolences, birthdays, football matches, … they all are useless as one would never need to refer to them ever again, plus they are things that in wrong hands can be considered as metadata of your life as it tends to have detailed of your habits and preferences.🧵👇🏼
       
 (DIR) Post #AHFRWB2SXJjzy7bnVo by Mehrad@fosstodon.org
       2022-01-10T23:50:39Z
       
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       🧵👆🏼@danialbehzadi @ilia So imho an amnesiac messenger would be very ideal for day to day personal chat. As the matter of fact I ideally want all messages to be removed after a month and I would like to have to option to “star” a message and make my messenger to keep them forever unless and until I delete it manually.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHFRWBUopsQTO4sRiS by danialbehzadi@persadon.com
       2022-01-11T06:03:47Z
       
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       @Mehrad @ilia When all messages are OLM-emcrypted, it's like they are never there.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHFRWBxB8R6wo295v6 by Mehrad@fosstodon.org
       2022-01-11T06:59:09Z
       
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       @danialbehzadi @iliaI paraphrase your sentence to make it more accurate:“When messages are OLM-encrypted, it’s like they are waiting for the correct key to be decrypted.”Encryption is not the ultimate privacy security, it is the best we have so far without loosing the data. With the type of information I have in my personal chats, I don’t need that data more than few hours or few days. So the best policy is to wipe them rather than keeping them in encrypted form.
       
 (DIR) Post #AHFRWCRJKPDKJUF9t2 by Mehrad@fosstodon.org
       2022-01-11T07:22:54Z
       
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       @danialbehzadi @ilia How about a easy and fast experiment:Open 10 of your chats (friends and family) and scroll each of them for only 5 pages and count how many of those messages you would need to keep for more a month. Make sure to include all those stickers, jokes, and memes.An amnesiac messenger with the option to keep the mark important messages is the most ideal solution. Similar to what Tails does with the persistent storage, but for day-to-day use as we tend to store lots of junk
       
 (DIR) Post #AHFRWCxZOT1BvXKvAW by Mehrad@fosstodon.org
       2022-01-13T09:38:53Z
       
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       @danialbehzadi @ilia This morning a friend of mine told me that "reactions in an encrypted room in #Matrix are not encrypted. So they can be spied on by a homeserver admin."I personally haven't fact-checked the claim [yet], but I consider this specific person as a very very credible source. I have also found this which kinda implies that my friend's statement is correct:https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/issues/9133
       
 (DIR) Post #AHFRWDT7VAFtVO67LU by kenny@social.kennyqin.com
       2022-01-13T15:20:46.106380Z
       
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       @danialbehzadi @ilia @Mehrad you can read this recent thread on HN where this was touched upon by Matthew aka Arathorn aka project lead. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29653865