Post AGIpyoo5ovP826Gt04 by lukas@digitalcourage.social
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(DIR) Post #AGGsbBByqsto3WwcIy by bram@koyu.space
2022-02-08T15:22:18Z
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I love this messaging app guide.
(DIR) Post #AGGuVrv5HMyMkAdX9c by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-02-08T16:05:00.061788Z
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@bram somehow misses https://cwtch.im
(DIR) Post #AGGubaNLQ9v24Ka6Lo by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-02-08T16:06:02.625132Z
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@bram @jz
(DIR) Post #AGGwnXVc6XtiYsHDyi by sneak@s.sneak.berlin
2022-02-08T16:30:32Z
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@bram it's missing the column for "what percentage of the people you want to talk to use this protocol"
(DIR) Post #AGGwqPlNMMGpPJ1KG8 by icedquinn@blob.cat
2022-02-08T16:31:07.459067Z
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@bram fair :cirno_sip:
(DIR) Post #AGGwvxc2w3CrpzIjTc by sneak@s.sneak.berlin
2022-02-08T16:32:02Z
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@bram oh this also repeats the standard lie that unofficial clients aren't allowed to connect to the official signal servers. this is both false from a legal/TOS standpoint, as well as objectively practically incorrect (many people use third party clients with the official signal servers).please stop spreading this toxic lie about signal.
(DIR) Post #AGGx1E5P7AOSNRXmUq by sneak@s.sneak.berlin
2022-02-08T16:33:00Z
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@bram oh this also misses the fact that almost all matrix installations as well as the web client phone home to centralized matrix servers run by the matrix developers
(DIR) Post #AGH1dtXbpmMPlgQlTE by mmu_man@m.g3l.org
2022-02-08T17:24:52Z
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@bram source:https://www.freie-messenger.de/systemvergleich/
(DIR) Post #AGH2wSBJsdTMN1Pzhw by bram@koyu.space
2022-02-08T17:39:19Z
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@sneak Lmao what are you talking about?Moxie Marlinspike literally shut down LibreSignal because he didn't want third party apps to make use of the Signal services.https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issuecomment-217211165
(DIR) Post #AGH7ry5ELHbfdQFb1c by timorl@qoto.org
2022-02-08T18:34:38Z
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@bram XMPP is not encrypted by default, which is imo quite important information that's missing from the graphic.
(DIR) Post #AGH8W4wiFLWcVCOPWy by sneak@s.sneak.berlin
2022-02-08T18:41:51Z
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@bram what you said and what i said are compatible.the following things are true:- moxie doesn't want 3p apps using the official servers- moxie has no right to stop legitimate users from using the official servers with 3p clients (they are governed by the tos which does not ban clients)- moxie has no right to stop forks of signal that point at official servers (the code is foss)- moxie used *the signal trademark* to stop libresignal because he doesn't like 3p clients
(DIR) Post #AGH8cXciXMnXBJ7bXM by sneak@s.sneak.berlin
2022-02-08T18:43:01Z
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@bram in fact there are several 3p clients that use the official signal servers!https://molly.im/https://github.com/mobilecoinofficial/foresthttps://github.com/AsamK/signal-cli
(DIR) Post #AGH8gETPg8QIwlWuKO by sneak@s.sneak.berlin
2022-02-08T18:43:40Z
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@bram libresignal could have legally continued what they were doing and simply told moxie to fuck off if they didn't have the word "signal" in their app name.
(DIR) Post #AGH8rzqfsZBn411HIO by sneak@s.sneak.berlin
2022-02-08T18:45:47Z
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@bram so, once again: please do not repeat the standard lie that unofficial/3p foss client software cannot connect to the official signal servers. they can, they do, they are, and it's legal. at least one person (who doesn't work there anymore) at signal doesn't like it, but the ToS does not prohibit users from doing it, and the software license doesn't prohibit developers from doing it.
(DIR) Post #AGHCTtdthXPUgNo5gW by frederic@mastodon.bayern
2022-02-08T19:26:19Z
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@bram Also a good link:https://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix-en.html
(DIR) Post #AGHGlXJpq1Y2Tb5d1U by deeznuts@bitcoinhackers.org
2022-02-08T20:14:19Z
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@bram Getsession.org not mentioned , is there a maintainer?
(DIR) Post #AGHfgFTVFhKOXYBfZw by lukas@digitalcourage.social
2022-02-09T00:53:20Z
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@sneak @bram Which is 100% optional and opt in
(DIR) Post #AGIe26RBWnqK8EM8Rc by sneak@s.sneak.berlin
2022-02-09T12:09:44Z
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@lukas @bram nope it's not opt-in it's literally the default.
(DIR) Post #AGIjd4Gh3VVLtCtVho by lukas@digitalcourage.social
2022-02-09T13:12:19Z
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@sneak @bram Ah yes can you prove it?Because i can its opt in, i have to go to the settings and turn on the ident and integration servers...Both are even selectable
(DIR) Post #AGIpyoIBjXsqR9LPGq by lukas@digitalcourage.social
2022-02-09T13:14:22Z
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@sneak @bram
(DIR) Post #AGIpyoo5ovP826Gt04 by lukas@digitalcourage.social
2022-02-09T13:19:25Z
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@sneak @bram And even "if" you would be right Your "oh so lovely" Signal is far away from being better lol
(DIR) Post #AGIpypKhrfUZfFWvpo by sneak@s.sneak.berlin
2022-02-09T14:23:30Z
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@lukas @bram you're asserting false things. set up a matrix server and access it from a web client and look at the web inspector. it talks to those servers automatically, no opt in.
(DIR) Post #AGIqc4xThh9TQ3NkYK by sneak@s.sneak.berlin
2022-02-09T14:30:38Z
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@lukas @bram i am also not affiliated with signal or its development in any way, so you're wrong on that count too.