Post AG5ZgqQryKB7Bp4dYu by p@freespeechextremist.com
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(DIR) Post #AG4bMdcxsO5gR0GQ64 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T17:33:54.984675Z
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Okay, I said I'd have it earlier but here we are: the Revolver Kickoff announcement: https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/revolver-kickoff.htmlI also wrote some about the motivations, but if you have seen my posts at any point in the last few years or especially the last three months, it's probably not news to you: https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/revolver-motivation.htmlI have been very excited about actually writing the code and had to kind of force myself to sit down and write that stuff, but I said "I'll have the announcement this weekend" then I said I'd have it yesterday morning and I figured I'd pushed back actually announcing it for long enough. (I can code while shitposting casually but I can't write stuff like this while posting at all.)There will be a public repo with prototype code shortly, I think this week, but Hofstadter's Law says that it takes longer than you expect, even if you take Hofstadter's Law into account.METAL GEAR SOLID V_ THE DEFINITIVE EXPERIENCE_20181004231907.png
(DIR) Post #AG4cDZRQAexonc6XlA by FrailLeaf@froth.zone
2022-02-02T17:43:28.573860Z
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@p poggers
(DIR) Post #AG4cQWGtGefWjULyKW by shadowferret@the9thcircle.club
2022-02-02T17:45:47.089Z
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@p@freespeechextremist.com hell yeah! Could I try building it on an Rpi?
(DIR) Post #AG4clEZOHEOhugssQi by sevvie@silkhe.art
2022-02-02T17:49:32.212Z
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@p@freespeechextremist.com You rock. I'll have to adjust my ideas to hopefully accomodate.
(DIR) Post #AG4cu1APThFEx2O7eq by rad_tech@gleasonator.com
2022-02-02T17:51:08.362539Z
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this sounds similar to https://github.com/fiatjaf/nostrsome problems with nostr though are:lack of deletes. whoever can delete the data, owns the data. so basically the relays own the datadoesn’t build on activitypub in any way. there may be bridges to it, but it would make sense to just use activitypub protocol and be compatible
(DIR) Post #AG4cvipqbbmQfxaCK8 by teknomunk@poa.st
2022-02-02T17:51:27.463880Z
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@p I am looking forward to trying out the revolver prototype. From the techincal overview, it is exactly what we will need.
(DIR) Post #AG4d7wzzlsHu4wA0NU by boscallian@poa.st
2022-02-02T17:53:39.896299Z
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@p i’m still wondering what the network topology is around clients and servers. are all users running thick clients and only connecting to servers to relay them to where they want to go?
(DIR) Post #AG4dF0EI9sNi7pD5pg by w@arachnid.town
2022-02-02T17:54:45.132127Z
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@p I have a couple of questions:1. Is PleromaFE ported to it or is the Mastodon API implemented on top of Revolver? If so is it just enough for it to work or could you run other software on it?2. Does it connect to the fediverse via some sort of outproxy, or is there something more interesting?3. Are some of the details going to be explained in the future or will that be explained in the source code?
(DIR) Post #AG4f528kOqoh3yzUki by diresock@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T18:15:33.294144Z
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@p Is there a simpler explanation for the plebs?I've heard of IPFS before, though I don't actually know what it is.I remember it was used with ZeroNet, which was an attempt at a peer-to-peer torrent based internet.So is Revolver™ P2P in some way?Will we have to download a special client side app, or allocate space on our machines for sharing of content on the network?(I'm fine with that BTW, just asking)I may be a dev myself, but I stay away from all things web like it's the plague.Not even sure why, just gives me a bad feeling. :cirnoShrug:
(DIR) Post #AG4js6SlW2TyTc0Y0u by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T19:09:14.592555Z
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@FrailLeaf Hopefully it's enough that I can just point people to those links when they have questions.
(DIR) Post #AG4kXOpI97bnIoEgXg by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T19:16:42.388134Z
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@shadowferret Yes. It should be light enough. If it doesn't, then when there's a repo and a place to file bugs, file a bug.
(DIR) Post #AG4kijTHjEiQW8LXLE by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T19:18:45.280707Z
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@sevvie :bigbosssalute:I think you/coy are the only two people that have heard my architecture discussion and the filtering ideas.
(DIR) Post #AG4knaYgIIsgK2Bb2e by sevvie@silkhe.art
2022-02-02T19:19:37.555Z
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@p@freespeechextremist.com I can only hope I have the opportunity again.
(DIR) Post #AG4lGS4muSYWPfxzxg by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T19:24:50.917807Z
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@rad_tech > lack of deletesSo just like fedi, then.Revolver is about as good as the rest of fedi in that regard, maybe slightly better since a delete from one instance is a delete from every instance.> so basically the relays own the dataThere aren't any relays, really. The way the slush works prevents data from propagating in a very straightforward way like that, but once data leaves your computer, you don't get to decide how many times it is copied and by who. I'm cribbing from venti but have moved metadata around so the slush can exploit pigeonholing a little better.
(DIR) Post #AG4lOmTQxKrtzXSy12 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T19:26:21.234993Z
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@teknomunk :ocelot: I hope it's what we need. If not, someone will make something better.
(DIR) Post #AG4lpRmO0NDDd02wYC by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T19:31:10.391049Z
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@boscallian Every node is a full participant, it requires no servers. It's more like IPFS (early version of the prototype used IPFS's libp2p but that didn't pan out for various reasons, though it did propagate some posts around) than it is like "thin"/"thick" clients. It's a gradient based on how many resources you toss at the network.
(DIR) Post #AG4m56z35hIBlSRGb2 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T19:34:00.251803Z
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@w > 1. Is PleromaFE ported to it or is the Mastodon API implemented on top of Revolver? If so is it just enough for it to work or could you run other software on it?As noted in the post, the FE stuff isn't written yet, but the plan is to make PleromaFE and bloat work, and once those work, anything else will be "best effort".> 2. Does it connect to the fediverse via some sort of outproxy, or is there something more interesting?Something more interesting, but not too interesting to work.> 3. Are some of the details going to be explained in the future or will that be explained in the source code?Code, then testing, then more code, then testing, then details.
(DIR) Post #AG4mDTTRMBOBpidqsq by w@arachnid.town
2022-02-02T19:35:19.942478Z
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@p Thanks. I'm excited to see it release and speedrun my way to being the first node.
(DIR) Post #AG4mpDjILGSU0W3YTA by rad_tech@gleasonator.com
2022-02-02T19:42:19.751964Z
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> maybe slightly better since a delete from one instance is a delete from every instance.Exactly. Because you’re just sharing an IPFS address right? If the owner tombstones it, the IPFS address leads to nothing. Wait, so a user can’t choose who relays their data? it just gets flood gossiped to everyone by default? What is the point of follows at that point? There would be many many many people that I would not want to give access to my data lol
(DIR) Post #AG4mx2wWKYDSryySv2 by neko@desuposter.club
2022-02-02T19:43:43.031381Z
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@p Really really excited for this, I'd love to contribute and help too (if it's C, that is)
(DIR) Post #AG4n0BR3DDuQ4qkaRM by boscallian@poa.st
2022-02-02T19:44:17.873030Z
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@p Have you heard of Iris? github.com/irislib/iris-messenger
(DIR) Post #AG4n9u86PQ2nIhWT7g by 11112011@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T19:46:04.521606Z
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@p $10 Million dollars, but you never get to code again… you takin it?
(DIR) Post #AG4nMiKzYy8SUbeyRs by mintplague@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T19:48:23.425818Z
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@p >I am developing it using ANTSI've looked at its site, and it seems quite pozzed with its disclaimer and "mantsifesto". Sure, you can separate the person and its code, but so far every project I know that shifted its focus to questionable social activism went to shit. In my case I would rather not associate with it.
(DIR) Post #AG4nPovTWXOxnMCoyG by duponin@udongein.xyz
2022-02-02T19:48:49.060227Z
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@p @w > Code, then testing, then more code, then testing, then details.plan do check act repeatAGILITY MF! :aqua_yeah:
(DIR) Post #AG4nsDRDywYjvUb1o8 by sevvie@silkhe.art
2022-02-02T19:54:04.429Z
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@bot@kiwifarms.cc @p@freespeechextremist.com It's tough to know for sure, given only one person has the code right now. But I suspect the curation tools necessary to assist in preventing that will come from development and response to release. It won't be a perfect solution, just like they're not quite a perfect solution now. But mother is the innovation of necessity, or something along those lines.
(DIR) Post #AG4nx4iJqW5AJfuQk4 by blackeyes@kiwifarms.cc
2022-02-02T19:54:57.351561Z
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@bot @sevvie @p meh. this already happens with email. non-issue imo.
(DIR) Post #AG4nz5ZnbsXXZRstJg by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T19:55:19.547079Z
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@diresock > So is Revolver™ P2P in some way?All the ways possible.> Will we have to download a special clientNo; that was an explicit design goal.> I stay away from all things web like it's the plague.This is recommended.
(DIR) Post #AG4oDwhmsJAiOvhm8O by bwk@puzzled.cc
2022-02-02T19:57:58.437320Z
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@bot @p @sevvie sweep up the incriminating material. You're the janny
(DIR) Post #AG4oQBXPYMr9sXghpw by blackeyes@kiwifarms.cc
2022-02-02T20:00:12.875753Z
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@bot @p @sevvie if you run a mail server, you get all kinds of dumb crap. I don't think the law thinks it's different but idk.
(DIR) Post #AG4oYfzyBYEyfR5wNU by ThatWouldBeTelling@detroitriotcity.com
2022-02-02T20:01:43.750526Z
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@p “No admins, no masters, no backups”Yet it’s AGPLv3, so at minimum you’re providing a stack for node installation that includes an complete current source set upload option (needs a governor on it to avoid DDoSing through that route).“Right now, the license is “nobody but me has the code”. Because it keeps the options flexible (I can always dual-license later), it is going to be AGPLv3.”And:“Contributing: […] As far as code goes, patches will be gratefully accepted.”Without a contributor’s agreement assigning you copyright, it’ll be stuck with AGPLv3 after you accept the first patch.
(DIR) Post #AG4ogN1CdXeU7OLA1Y by Steve@theosis.church
2022-02-02T19:56:07.961965Z
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>It won't be a perfect solutionIt had fucking better be or people are going to jail.
(DIR) Post #AG4popiTvDezOWBOue by bwk@puzzled.cc
2022-02-02T20:15:49.913556Z
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@bot @p @sevvie if I understand the architecture right you have a proxy that collects all known posts then your client posts your client and "pins" it to use IPFS terminology. This isn't much different than what's already going on.When you see an image online its because you downloaded it, its in your cache so it will be deleted automatically but its still on your phone.At least with revolver it removes the middleman so you don't have to wait for a middleman to get rid of stuff you report. (I assume you have reported stuff before)
(DIR) Post #AG4pxA2WFEHok5Wgme by bwk@puzzled.cc
2022-02-02T20:17:21.534995Z
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@bot @p @sevvie if I understand the architecture right, you have a proxy that collects all known posts and delivers them to you. This isn't much different than what's already going on.When you see an image online its because you downloaded it, its in your cache so it will be deleted automatically but its still on your phone.At least with revolver it removes the middleman so you don't have to wait for a middleman to get rid of stuff you report. (I assume you have reported stuff before)
(DIR) Post #AG4qIeUaDYBbGqtuSG by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T20:21:16.284756Z
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@sevvie Let's make the dream a reality.
(DIR) Post #AG4qwc6UW9IbRigew4 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T20:28:29.609003Z
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@rad_tech > Because you’re just sharing an IPFS address right? If the owner tombstones it, the IPFS address leads to nothing. I don't think IPFS works that way, but I have been wrong when speculating about how IPFS works. If my mental model of that network is correct, then you can't delete things from IPFS, only stop propagating them.> it just gets flood gossiped to everyone by default?...No?> What is the point of follows at that point?It is safe to assume that the things I am doing are not intended to create the kind of situation that would make the network unusable.> There would be many many many people that I would not want to give access to my data lolThey all have it already. Also it doesn't work like I think you think it works; try this: http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/venti/
(DIR) Post #AG4qzPhL68ZFq6G1tA by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T20:28:59.968745Z
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@neko :cgss_riina:
(DIR) Post #AG4r46Q2CkdHUhOooi by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T20:29:50.815050Z
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@boscallian Yes.
(DIR) Post #AG4rAW0byUmUb6Z8Rk by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T20:31:00.353105Z
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@11112011 I can code when I'm too drunk to speak coherently. I think I would not take that money. What am I going to do with it?
(DIR) Post #AG4rGbADinTSK4xdGS by 11112011@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T20:32:06.315612Z
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@p im here for the hard questions bro......
(DIR) Post #AG4rkoN5BHfNyMNqqm by mintplague@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T20:37:33.933689Z
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@p But can you understand that code when you're sober next day?
(DIR) Post #AG4rqZsdyG2Glctb6m by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T20:38:36.459066Z
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@mintplague > Sure, you can separate the person and its codeThe person is a very good friend of mine.> but so far every project I know that shifted its focus to questionable social activism went to shitANTS did not and has not done that. mycroftiv was just getting a lot of shit from people about *chan-association, because nowadays people associate 4chan with /pol/ instead of with /b/.You're doing that, though. There's some cool tech and you're talking about politics instead of the cool shit, you're just focusing on the politics. The disclaimer is just a personal statement by mycroftiv, it's not a project that has been subverted by the far left, it was just written by a hippie that taught himself C by reading the Plan 9 kernel. He's a fascinating guy.
(DIR) Post #AG4rrlI12MhqRSKOI4 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T20:38:49.298529Z
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@duponin @w OODA
(DIR) Post #AG4sHLKgARD5SzludM by mintplague@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T20:43:26.691137Z
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@p Fair point, though I'd still keep all the manifestos and other political bullshit to personal blogs instead of pages dedicated to a piece of software. I'm just tired of all the subversions and acquisitions, so I immediately get offensive when seeing this. Either way, hope he's doing well and has a good luck.
(DIR) Post #AG4sPcDfGZPm9nR3QG by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T20:44:56.394616Z
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@sevvie> It won't be a perfect solutionYes, correct. It is designed to be a good solution to a specific set of problems.> I suspect the curation tools necessary to assist in preventing thatYeah, she didn't read the post, I think, or she's doing this intentionally. (She has a history of doing this kind of thing intentionally. She was yelling in all-caps that I was trying to put CP on people's phones earlier.)
(DIR) Post #AG4tQtIxKRcpOF5Aoq by boscallian@poa.st
2022-02-02T20:56:22.014826Z
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@p Just curious about your assessment of it. I assume that you just need something that works with IPFS and not a new database
(DIR) Post #AG4tjX56BBPpy1UQiG by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T20:59:44.668041Z
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@bwk @sevvie There's a good reason "blocks" and "slush" are separated in the design of Revolver.
(DIR) Post #AG4tqYPhclMm7tTWim by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T21:01:00.806312Z
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@11112011 I'd take that much to never drink whiskey again, maybe. Something like that.
(DIR) Post #AG4uBRU4aDKQiSTnpA by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T21:04:47.309091Z
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@mintplague Yes.
(DIR) Post #AG4uVNFy0iSFOdNzRA by bwk@puzzled.cc
2022-02-02T21:08:21.817354Z
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@p @sevvie on a different note, how does the IPFS integration work? Posts use CID but do accounts? If they do that's ripe for abuse
(DIR) Post #AG4ucIml24aXYZ1jbk by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T21:09:38.564262Z
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@boscallian IPFS is an extra storage backend that helpfully also allows a side-channel for federating. I think it'll be nice to have but it's not the primary data store.
(DIR) Post #AG4ueTeFcEzxpH5Lai by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T21:10:02.151083Z
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@boscallian As far as Iris, it is not that interesting.
(DIR) Post #AG4v6VcvqudI4TpppY by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T21:15:06.116280Z
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@bwk @sevvie Accounts are content-addressed, everything is, and if I understand what you mean about abuse, that's already dealt with by the design, that part can't be abused the way you're thinking.Think about how it would work if you were on a shared venti server: http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/venti/ .
(DIR) Post #AG4vS0MMmeQXT7KvZo by boscallian@poa.st
2022-02-02T21:18:58.642529Z
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@p theoretically, it does exactly what you are trying to implement though right? (of course it is a bit buggy still)
(DIR) Post #AG4wAa9V4MSJDcZgGG by throwaway1@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-02T21:27:02.583734Z
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@rad_tech @p thank you for sharing nostr, as it sounds right up my alley
(DIR) Post #AG4x9VVOxbCaTIs0HI by graf@poa.st
2022-02-02T21:37:57.018671Z
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@sjw @p same but for the base of poast we will probably stick with gleasonoma
(DIR) Post #AG4x9YAx25cskkKDJo by sjw@bae.st
2022-02-02T21:37:29.893467Z
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@p :ng_aoba_excited: I'll run a public node once the alpha is out
(DIR) Post #AG4xIdMn6OcbSVC7RA by derek@gorf.pub
2022-02-02T21:39:41.524320Z
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@p I remember saying something just like this years ago and you yelling at me for using the term “scaling” and disagreeing profusely with my opinion that activityPub is hard to scale, which led to me leaving FSE and you posting a bunch of tranny porn on my site. Glad you came around. < ScalingThe scaling issue should be obvious. Fedi has sort of a handshake problem: posts have to be fetched by every instance that intends to display them, and then there’s bookkeeping about what’s been delivered where (for deletion, which is unreliable anyway). That was the primary motivation for the initial architectural sketch I had for what I was calling “the object proxy” or “the object slush”: smaller instances can get flooded. So the initial idea that Revolver grew from was decentralizing object fetches by making a network of caching proxies, which could be done in a way that made it transparent to Pleroma: it would speed up the network and ease some of the bandwidth and downtime concerns. (Think of it like Pleroma’s media proxy but for posts. I wrote some code and tried running it but it made Revolver start to percolate.) Even larger instances with beefy hardware can get flooded sometimes.
(DIR) Post #AG4xZ5KwsRDKqAB3B2 by Steve@theosis.church
2022-02-02T19:52:47.644023Z
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Yes, that's why zeronet doesn't work. It's a terrible idea. Self hosting is actually an incredibly irresponsible model to promote.
(DIR) Post #AG56tuJhwYeIKabI6i by sjw@bae.st
2022-02-02T23:27:16.485773Z
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@graf @p I'd love to switch to soapbox-fe if it ever becomes usable and stops being insufferable to use.
(DIR) Post #AG57HkD5AjYDw2rryi by kumicota@weeaboo.space
2022-02-02T23:31:32.565534Z
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@p nice project, how do you plan to make the servers to be not tied to an internet address? Like creating a network key(I don't know the proper name) like ipfs does when you setup a node
(DIR) Post #AG57I2PnUCPuOgxHIO by yes@social.handholding.io
2022-02-02T23:31:38.309956Z
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@sjw @graf @p it still does not support emoji reacts
(DIR) Post #AG5AQHzJlnZOsJCC9I by dielan@shitposter.club
2022-02-03T00:06:44.497010Z
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@p cool post but you know the rules
(DIR) Post #AG5HWi58MkyBDhvPEm by sjw@bae.st
2022-02-03T01:26:20.215898Z
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@yes @p @graf it does but only like 5
(DIR) Post #AG5KdK8w4FjorhY480 by mistermonster@firebird.zone
2022-02-03T02:01:07.604683Z
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@p just pointing out an error: the bitcoin address you posted is a legacy bitcoin address, not segwit. Which means it is not a BCH address, it is a BTC one, as BCH only supports segwit.You should probably use a segwit address either way.
(DIR) Post #AG5QEzIoV6F90Iwobo by admin@happylittle.cloudns.cc
2022-02-03T03:03:49.422813Z
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@dielan Oh man, I didn't realize it was that time of year again already. @p
(DIR) Post #AG5T47FitxPAL10fGC by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T03:35:38.410887Z
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@boscallian No, I don't think they are doing the same thing from a quick perusal of the JS. (The fact that they are treating timestamps as reliable is already kind of a problem.) I think they have different goals for the project but information that doesn't require me to read JavaScript is scant.
(DIR) Post #AG5TOmTVLcZnyiJG5Y by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T03:39:22.490316Z
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@graf @sjw Pipes must be jammed up, this arrived before the message you're replying to.Anyway, FSE will be running it as soon as it can be Indiana-Jones-bag-of-sand'd, but that'll be before it's reasonable for anyone else to switch to it.> gleasonoma...Has to be called something else, this sounds like cancer.
(DIR) Post #AG5TQscXT92xcNXJDc by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T03:39:45.251592Z
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@sjw :bigbosssalute: Thank you, friend!
(DIR) Post #AG5TU2gCWgR5gUl08e by bajax@bajax.us
2022-02-03T03:40:19.259951Z
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@p @sjw @graf maybe it's appropriate
(DIR) Post #AG5Ta28NT2PrjJnF44 by graf@poa.st
2022-02-03T03:41:01.787072Z
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@p @sjw actually had a chuckle irl when i read the cancer line
(DIR) Post #AG5UFayYpclvf81I2a by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T03:48:55.187981Z
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@derek > I remember saying something just like this years ago and you yelling at me for using the term “scaling” and disagreeing profusely with my opinion that activityPub is hard to scaleI recall what you were saying at the time and it was an estimate of how many users and that matters less than post volume and follower count. It's not an ActivityPub problem, which is why the object proxy hadn't planned to displace AP and this project speaks AP. You were asking how many users a Pleroma server could handle, the handshake problem of distributing posts is a different problem. For users, Pleroma scales horizontally, it's how fedi works.> and you posting a bunch of tranny porn on my siteI never had an account on your site.
(DIR) Post #AG5UaJbGd4fDr00KdU by dubh@husk.site
2022-02-03T03:52:39.483533Z
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@derek @p I remember that it came off like a used car sales pitch and I chided you for dm'ing.
(DIR) Post #AG5XsPOM8N7atLHhKK by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T04:29:32.965949Z
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@sjw @graf :gnu: use bloatfe
(DIR) Post #AG5Y3tP0tahn9Z4HCa by graf@poa.st
2022-02-03T04:31:36.591883Z
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@p @sjw bloatBoxFE when?????????????
(DIR) Post #AG5Y4ZTOThAHdJRMrQ by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T04:31:44.851799Z
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@kumicota Users have keys. How talking to AP works in cases like that is a Thing but the idea is that users have keys.
(DIR) Post #AG5Y5yTkza9JTdHO0O by sjw@bae.st
2022-02-03T04:31:57.689951Z
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@p @grafget_baest-42u3.mp4
(DIR) Post #AG5Y7OFGgAqbgBB3dg by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T04:32:15.419394Z
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@yes @sjw @graf > it still does not support emoji reactsThis is a feature.
(DIR) Post #AG5YFvQZBzCwuPX3C4 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T04:33:47.971976Z
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@dielan I guess I will have to either shut up about the project for a month or hoist the black flag and become an outlaw. :msf:
(DIR) Post #AG5YQdWC7QFMY9Gv9U by derek@gorf.pub
2022-02-03T04:35:43.468959Z
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@p Well the topic was more about how activityPub makes it necessary for smaller instances to have more hardware than they would otherwise need. In other words, the net hardware required to run 5,000,000 users on 1000,000 instances is much much more than running 5,000,000 users on a single instance thus making it harder for fediverse to “scale” and compete with big tech. But that is beside the point, the funny part for me is that the word “scalability” was a giant trigger for you and you went off on me for using it and now you are using in your write-up. Anyway, glad you finally understood my point and now agree with it ;)Looking forward to seeing your project.< I never had an account on your site. Overly specific answer…Did you take part in any way posting porn on my site?
(DIR) Post #AG5YYAXPkbhozAQzOC by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2022-02-03T04:37:05.213075Z
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@p @dielan Fuck the police.Also fuck Gleason.
(DIR) Post #AG5YygKq9UU38FCA2C by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T04:41:53.291283Z
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@mistermonster > Which means it is not a BCH addressAH YES, right: it is a BTC address. Typo corrected. (I had used abbreviations in the following paragraph and decided to add the abbreviation to the previous one.)I don't think BCH does SegWit; I thought that was the point of BCH, to avoid off-chain verification. If BCH is doing SegWit now, it's news to me.
(DIR) Post #AG5Z5NxqqvH6BPdfxQ by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T04:43:05.983562Z
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@bajax @graf @sjw :laugh:
(DIR) Post #AG5ZJD1MKwIMISs4uG by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T04:45:35.879290Z
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@graf @sjw "I'm sorry, Mr. Grafmays...it's Stage IV Gleasonoma. I can recommend a palliative care physician but except in cases where we can detect it early enough...I...I'm sorry."
(DIR) Post #AG5ZUjlSw9QF2Dvyts by graf@poa.st
2022-02-03T04:47:39.683615Z
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@p @sjw its terminal, fedis-stage 4 gleasonoma:bball1:
(DIR) Post #AG5ZgqQryKB7Bp4dYu by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T04:49:52.174261Z
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@sjw @graf06_jam_it_in_the_hole.mp3
(DIR) Post #AG5Zhk6wxZWDsGBWHw by pasture@pl.gamers.exposed
2022-02-03T04:49:59.800326Z
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@graf @p @sjw the quote posts are clogging your veins, you have 3 days until your entire fucking mentality expires
(DIR) Post #AG5ZnX3UPj3v7UKKEi by sjw@bae.st
2022-02-03T04:51:04.327290Z
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@p @grafget_baest-fFDt.mp4
(DIR) Post #AG5ZqLTNvvAE4BmSky by graf@poa.st
2022-02-03T04:51:34.338550Z
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@pasture @sjw @p rob colbert is actually kinda chill, i like having him on poast tbh
(DIR) Post #AG5Zxr1r0W1xxkU3Xc by hyperfuneral@nigger.tax
2022-02-03T04:52:56.365812Z
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@graf @sjw @p @pasture yeah rob is good people
(DIR) Post #AG5cPO7iGq3uKYTtWi by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T05:20:19.784098Z
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@derek > activityPub makes it necessary for smaller instances to have more hardware than they would otherwise need.I don't think that's accurate. Like I said, it's not based on users, that's the wrong metric. It's also architectural, not a protocol problem. And the primary driver for Revolver is availability plus I don't think there should be admins, scaling nice to have.> the net hardware required to run 5,000,000 users on 1000,000 instances is much much more than running 5,000,000 users on a single instance thus making it harder for fediverse to “scale” and compete with big tech.There are currently 4.7m users on 7,520 instances and fedi is running fine.Like I said, it scales horizontally with users. A user that logs in and looks at the site all day, every day consumes different resources than a user that logs in for 10 minutes once a year and follows one user on every server. User count is the wrong metric, that's not how fedi scales. This is why I objected to what you said, and it's because you're asking the wrong questions: you've got your conclusion and you're trying to verify it, so you say things like "My guys say this won't scale because of $x" and maybe $x is wrong, maybe $x is correct but doesn't affect scaling concerns, maybe $x is a threshold we haven't hit, maybe you forgot to factor in $y or $z.The handshake problem's been obvious, but "This is an issue, this software solves that problem" is about a trade-off, not about whether fedi can kill Twitter, and the main issue holding back scale at present is a social issue: not enough people are running instances. Maybe 5, 10% of the effort of running an instance is technical. Revolver is an attempt to convert the effort into a 100% technical problem that does not require instance admins. (I expect that despite shooting for 100%, the best someone can do is 80%, but we'll see.)> Overly specific answer…Did you take part in any way posting porn on my site?I did not have an account on your site so I did not at any point upload porn to a machine you operate. As far as anything off-site, unless it came from this account that I am using right now, I did not post it. Work for you?Fuck's sake, you're bein' cranky and I don't want to argue with you at the expense of time spent hacking on Revolver.
(DIR) Post #AG5cRE1cmovdagVdrc by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T05:20:39.708120Z
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@Ricotta @dielan Vegans are a form of cop if you think about it.
(DIR) Post #AG5caCFKlmGCgDCRQO by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T05:22:16.988931Z
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@graf @sjw :houseno:
(DIR) Post #AG5d4GqKFBPFciqIs4 by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2022-02-03T05:27:42.637579Z
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@p @dielan The word is cope, Pete.
(DIR) Post #AG5foNK4gTS2wvryOO by derek@gorf.pub
2022-02-03T05:58:27.029693Z
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@graf @pasture @sjw @p He is POS that helped torba lie and steal millions from the right and laughed about it for years. Also, he is either the biggest retard on the planet or intentionally created open doors in code to allow in anons and feds to get all gab user data.He is a liar, thief and a traitor and I hope he either repents or dies.
(DIR) Post #AG5g2YgTEweWEw6lpw by graf@poa.st
2022-02-03T06:01:00.492107Z
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@derek @sjw @p @pasture aren’t you the guy who cried he was lying about who he was until he tucked you into a locker? ouch yeah, it looks like you arewe aren’t employing him. or even accepting advice from him. he’s just a user on poast. why are you so salty he exists my man. just vibe
(DIR) Post #AG5g671g0uKrcPioQy by sjw@bae.st
2022-02-03T06:01:39.399595Z
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@p @grafget_baest-jS9j.mp4
(DIR) Post #AG5gQci9v0WVgENBbs by sjw@bae.st
2022-02-03T06:05:22.004065Z
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@graf @p @derek @pasturenya.mp4
(DIR) Post #AG5gwvICMwuAZkdEjQ by derek@gorf.pub
2022-02-03T06:11:12.018202Z
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@graf @p @pasture @sjw Tucked me into a locker? What are you talking about? Faggot simp. He lied about not knowing who I am and then ran from the Fediverse like the psycho bitch that he is to avoid the discussion about his lies and gab hacks. You are a fricken loser kid. Simping cause you want to have users on a dumb instance. Mom’s basement must be lonely.
(DIR) Post #AG5n9hD4dfciO9hzmq by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T07:20:44.941853Z
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@Ricotta @dielan :alexjonessmile3:
(DIR) Post #AG5nC3ujCFIFNpFv6G by mistermonster@firebird.zone
2022-02-03T07:21:08.874486Z
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@p yeah I was thinking of Bech32 addresses my bad.
(DIR) Post #AG5nXwPnl1rQUsDsnI by mistermonster@firebird.zone
2022-02-03T07:25:05.163361Z
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@p yeah I was thinking of Bech32 and CashAddr formats my bad.
(DIR) Post #AG6FPYwxuiSs7ZWoMK by throwaway1@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T12:37:21.427928Z
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@bajax @p @graf @sjw it adds features as quickly
(DIR) Post #AG6G7tSX1SWoTFQp4y by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T12:45:22.134448Z
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@throwaway1 @bajax @graf @sjw :leslienielsensmile:
(DIR) Post #AG6IYhCWuDKoBDr4F6 by graf@poa.st
2022-02-03T13:12:15.455922Z
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@derek @sjw @p @pasture LOL
(DIR) Post #AG6aX1bTsSAq3KsWx6 by ScatmansWorldFSE@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T16:34:00.672667Z
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@p Now all you have to do is advertise it as “the world’s first strand type social network” and you’ll have millions of users in no time. :kojimasmug3:
(DIR) Post #AG6cWqhcbfco9VnKrI by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-03T16:56:23.367808Z
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@ScatmansWorldFSE The strand thing was overplayed but it was a cool mechanic.I should say a bunch of crazy Kojima shit, though, that is a good idea. Fat birds don't fly, being too serious is a trap.
(DIR) Post #AG6sIvT9gasG9GPXtI by yapple@hunk.city
2022-02-03T19:53:04.005202Z
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@p you say Revolver will speak litepub and litepub.social says that litepub is stalled and incomplete. what is incomplete in it? it wont be a noticable problem right?
(DIR) Post #AG6yxZjjzVhqLOw2gy by derek@gorf.pub
2022-02-03T21:07:43.195552Z
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@graf @p @pasture @sjw Ah, I’m sorry, did I scare off your little trophy boyfriend, simpy? Maybe he’ll come back when his NDA expires and he can try to weasel out of his crimes without the risk of legal action.
(DIR) Post #AG6zCg18vDmUAQH9lY by graf@poa.st
2022-02-03T21:10:24.406852Z
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@derek @sjw @p @pasture man you should really log off, the internet is rotting your brain
(DIR) Post #AG6zdFoiRV3Mj78VCC by derek@gorf.pub
2022-02-03T21:15:15.132191Z
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@graf @p @pasture @sjw You have female anime avatar, the internet has rotted your soul.Colbert helped put some good people in jail and got some others in serious trouble, IRL, and helped steal millions from the right. You should mind your own simpy business and shut your gay anime mouth.
(DIR) Post #AG6zyQ1rfZ8eTpNWqG by pasture@pl.gamers.exposed
2022-02-03T21:19:00.789208Z
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@derek @graf @p @sjw you're the one who started shitting in this thread, lmao
(DIR) Post #AG701PqGoyNkljNtaq by pasture@pl.gamers.exposed
2022-02-03T21:19:35.673103Z
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@derek @graf @p @sjw anyway, post this dog
(DIR) Post #AG701th5pernLxJzSC by graf@poa.st
2022-02-03T21:19:40.415351Z
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@derek @sjw @p @pasture I think your whole mentality has expired my friend
(DIR) Post #AG703ugN81YwzuwgBU by derek@gorf.pub
2022-02-03T21:20:04.134043Z
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@pasture @graf @p @sjw I was going after Colbert and anime simp butted in.
(DIR) Post #AG707JqG2hqJtgC3O4 by BigDuck@poa.st
2022-02-03T21:20:39.864027Z
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@derek @graf @sjw @p @pasture Stop spamming my TL you genetic freak your mother should be shot by nigger man for producing such a genetic waste kill yourself
(DIR) Post #AG7089RaBh0DwD3596 by pasture@pl.gamers.exposed
2022-02-03T21:20:48.683814Z
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@derek @graf @p @sjw post this dog
(DIR) Post #AG70V8uwJMCAxuk9FA by wgiwf@poa.st
2022-02-03T21:24:53.984733Z
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@pasture @sjw @p @derek @graf
(DIR) Post #AG72Ec1j1tf4ESA9NQ by derek@gorf.pub
2022-02-03T21:44:24.867418Z
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@BigDuck @graf @sjw @p @pasture You were not even included in that thread so if you saw my post it’s b/c of one of your gay anime friends.Also, I’m just a man. Not a genetic freak. Men have muscles and hairy bodies and grow taller than 5’2”. You anime twinks are the genetic freaks. You are something between man and woman and cat. Not sure what the appropriate term is so I just label you all as faggots. Hope you don’t mind.Stop being little anime faggots and maybe your dads won’t hate you any more. At least God won’t and that’s what really matters. Also, look into TR. It’s nothing to be embarrassed about. Your generation was exposed to a lot of toxic chemicals from an early age. Hope it works out for you.
(DIR) Post #AG72PLcEO0zgWFMC6S by pasture@pl.gamers.exposed
2022-02-03T21:46:20.201628Z
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@derek @BigDuck @graf @p @sjw nobody cares -> dog uploaded -> submit button pressed
(DIR) Post #AG72YcdAUgOltfDYtU by zero@strelizia.net
2022-02-03T21:47:39.826716Z
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@derek @sjw @p @pasture @BigDuck @graf didn't read + mald + cope + stop crying
(DIR) Post #AG72h4ozZ7Cxe4mP4a by graf@poa.st
2022-02-03T21:49:31.518220Z
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@pasture @sjw @p @derek @BigDuck why is he malding and seething while coping and dialating on the timeline
(DIR) Post #AG72kJUjT1Qu1RqYts by pasture@pl.gamers.exposed
2022-02-03T21:50:08.302600Z
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@graf @BigDuck @derek @p @sjw idk, i'm not even reading what he's saying anymore, i'm just posting this dog
(DIR) Post #AG72uOGUaOPFiGzVya by AR-15@poa.st
2022-02-03T21:51:57.986679Z
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@derek @BigDuck @sjw @p @pasture @graf >Orc comes to Elf Web Site, complains that there are elves herePost elf tummy or go away!
(DIR) Post #AG76eTeRByFhbLrJUe by sapphire@shortstackran.ch
2022-02-03T22:33:54.805735Z
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@derek @sjw @p @pasture @BigDuck @graf interesting theory. 1RM bench?
(DIR) Post #AG7Myhzz9lC59qbg4e by wizard_problems@kiwifarms.cc
2022-02-04T01:36:50.960516Z
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@p >Admins on fedi disturb the balance to some extent, and Revolver should act as a great equalizer: people running a server should be free to post like regular people, and people using someone else's server shouldn't be beholden to the admins. this has been my biggest issue with the format of fedi, kind of the biggest blindspot from the twitter/gab refugees that are thrilled about it. excited to see how this pans out.
(DIR) Post #AG7O6vCw1v1qOZ8z6e by colonelj@kiwifarms.cc
2022-02-04T01:49:32.057784Z
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@p it is unclear in this writing how exactly revolver stops drama between persons. i can still deactivate revolver users from interacting with everyone from my node, yes? this seems to be the largest issue. admins of large nodes keeping you from interacting with their users for city/petty reasons. at least fediblock has a some principles by which they do it and try it's best to document it publicly.
(DIR) Post #AG7vSqr2C0pxkgxsG0 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-04T08:03:16.423578Z
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@yapple It is incomplete, yes; it also lists Pleroma as a conforming implementation. Between the brief spec, Pleroma's source code, and honk's source code, there's more than enough.
(DIR) Post #AG7voSJM7m6O0HVtnk by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-04T08:07:10.690601Z
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@derek @graf @pasture @sjw I was a little dismayed that the thread in which I kicked off Revolver degraded into drama, but it was worth it if the phrase "shut your gay anime mouth" has now entered the fediverse.
(DIR) Post #AG7vvhqAmk8mC5Jwn2 by neo@pl.comfysnug.space
2022-02-04T08:08:28.959909Z
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@p damn, really? I hope this doesn't catch on...@sjw @derek @pasture @graf
(DIR) Post #AG7wnLzkDs324vNYTQ by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-04T08:18:11.042664Z
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@pasture @derek @graf @sjwwolf.png
(DIR) Post #AG7xEUq1S5HRK8m3Tk by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-04T08:23:05.364901Z
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@wizard_problems Thank you! Hopefully it pans out great.I love fedi and I love FSE but I hate instance admin shit.
(DIR) Post #AG81vThdwpDy4WbbdY by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-04T09:15:40.641790Z
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@colonelj > it is unclear in this writing how exactly revolver stops drama between persons. i can still deactivate revolver users from interacting with everyone from my node, yes? this seems to be the largest issue.As I said in the post, it's not going to solve drama for as long as there are people using the network, but it should alleviate a lot of instance drama. You should know, because you have heard this complaint from me quite a few times, that there is endless "Why did you ban this guy?" and "Why *didn't* you ban this guy?" drama. I catch shit from people because of stuff people post on FSE. People that I know and have worked with IRL catch shit for knowing a guy that has a website on which other people have posted something that the shit-tosser doesn't like. That's not an exaggeration: sunbeam.city got cancelled by lefty-Mastodon and almost shut down permanently ( https://archive.ph/J5e16 ) because they nominated a friend of mine as a mod, and that's already five degrees of separation from "some guy with an anime avatar said a gamer word". (The guy tossed in "calling for my death", which did not appear anywhere in the thread but magically turns him into a victim, which their rumor mill turned into "death threats" and eventually "p made death threats" on some dick's blog.)I would like to not have that to deal with, or people on my ass about refusing to ban Jojo, or people on my ass about banning anyone I have banned. I'm careful when I do admin shit but I don't think anyone should be doing admin shit and I am making Revolver so that I don't catch shit for decisions I didn't want to have to make, and if it works, I will have eliminated an entire class of drama.
(DIR) Post #AG8BAwI8pxz4fZ7meu by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-04T10:59:19.011655Z
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@neo @derek @graf @pasture @sjw This is bait!
(DIR) Post #AG8EVjAf790zv7ELVA by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-04T11:36:41.335083Z
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@colonelj I think I missed what you were saying. (I was rushing before having some food.)Yeah, it might (might) be possible to block all of Revolver from any server on fedi. But probably unwise; that's on the same level as blocking everyone that is on an instance where anyone used Husky. (Don't laugh, it's been done.)
(DIR) Post #AG8G7kAjwKbRz3xT2O by colonelj@kiwifarms.cc
2022-02-04T11:54:45.315865Z
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@p what were the intentions of fediasint and why did it shut downhttps://kiwifarms.cc/notice/AG7CyiSAt0R39vBpOC
(DIR) Post #AG8OdMpZ3e9mUWdyEa by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-04T13:30:07.189320Z
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@colonelj Were? I mean, they're still scraping as far as I know, or at least they were when I heard of them.I don't know what they're really doing. Scraping people's accounts and their posts, but I don't know what the plan was. I think they shut down the website because they were attracting negative attention from unintended people (i.e., lefty-Masto). It's almost certainly not for the reasons they listed. The whole post reeks of retcon but I mentioned that in the earlier post.
(DIR) Post #AG8RJvqhS0BhAZbCFc by coin@asimon.org
2022-02-04T14:00:12.760930Z
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It was bound to happen if the thread goes long enough.
(DIR) Post #AG8VB0ppwW43qOCJM0 by throwaway1@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-04T14:43:25.831703Z
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@p @yapple if you weren't busy, I'd suggest cloning their spec and amending it with whatever details you conclude from the other places, so that you'd be the author of a more-complete spec for your version of litepubrevolver-flavored litepubbut don't call it Ocelot
(DIR) Post #AG90O2fAUsfiCuADq4 by neo@pl.comfysnug.space
2022-02-04T20:33:08.030856Z
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@p I should certainly hope so! I'm fishing.@sjw @derek @pasture @graf
(DIR) Post #AG9Y2snFOUqJxP1bQu by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-05T02:50:17.257796Z
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@neo @derek @graf @pasture @sjw Shut your gay anime mouth!
(DIR) Post #AG9hvLeLDpbwg7uB1c by icscarythings@sleepy.cafe
2022-02-05T04:40:58.066843Z
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@p @boscallian I'm still not sure how this would work with conventional instances that only fetch via https? You would still need some kind of exit/entry node servers to act as a bridge to relay messages outside of the decentralized network, right?
(DIR) Post #AGA0LAls5ab1dwtInI by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-05T08:07:20.020166Z
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@icscarythings @boscallian Okay, so, it is deliberately cryptic and vague, because the code isn't written. Like I've been saying for a years, I would not like to promise anything past what I'm certain is possible and plausible to do. So I've got to be cryptic about a lot of the details because I know what I plan to do, some of it will work, some will not and I'll have to revise. Of the things that might not work the way I want them to but I have said will work, all of them have a Plan B that will definitely work, and it is a certainty here that at least some of the features will have to be implemented with their Plan B for one reason or another. I really don't want to do too much explaining about something that might or might not work out the way I say it will work, so I have given as many details as I can.At any rate, this is one of the obvious ones: yes, instances fetch via HTTPS, but /inbox takes the objects, which are accepted if the signature works out.Here's something interesting, from Google of all places (Google and Microsoft and Facebook and all these shitty places I hate, they all still have respectable R&D): they actually use fancy routing as their first-line load-balancer. In a decentralized system, I'm not obviously not going to be in control of any routers, but I'm sure you can, if I tell you I'm thinking along parallel lines (that is, not the routing table but ActivityPub extends way up from the routing level), figure out my Plan A and Plan B. Two-way federation will work or I wouldn't be doing this, it will work before FSE turns into a Revolver node, that's as much as I'll be specific about.The Senate is, as we speak, having a surprise vote in the middle of the night to shove through some bullshit tightening of the FOSTA/SESTA noose, EU-level records-keeping requirements and "Facebook is core to our national security", in addition to the other things that made this somewhat urgent. Unwinding the stack too much is going to fuck me to begin with, even if it didn't take time which was why the original plan was to say nothing but cryptic nonsense until it's shipped. I really don't want to answer too many questions about the details, the code will be details.maglev--google_load_balancer.pdf