Post AFuc2g6zFDh2amw1YG by sergeantcat@pl.zombiecats.run
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(DIR) Post #AFtBHiTVqe9KLTSQS0 by furgar@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-28T05:19:51Z
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File management in Windows XP:Windows: You can't delete that file without permission from the file owner. Me: But I am the file owner. Windows: Oh, in that case, would you like to give yourself permission to delete this file?Me: Uh... Yes?Windows: Are you sure?Me: I think so. I trust me.Windows: Okay, file deletion in progress. Estimated time to completion is somewhere between 6 seconds and 43.9 hours.
(DIR) Post #AFtBL4EpODzciABdRI by i_hate_the_antichrist@poa.st
2022-01-28T05:20:28.257848Z
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@furgar
(DIR) Post #AFtBMCFz3uVhs1GXxY by tpfaff100@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-28T05:20:40Z
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@furgar Now try the same thing on an SD card! :-)
(DIR) Post #AFtBNctjUqasmmXX8K by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-28T05:20:55Z
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@furgar lucky it was good at multi-tasking...
(DIR) Post #AFtBXAnqo7e2XyLC9g by A3Y0p5ipYMrYZGenK4.Coyote@80percent.social
2022-01-28T05:22:37.714196Z
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@Coyote @furgar I am thankful I have NEVER accepted Gates into my life unless under forced employer requirements. Which, I still hate those companies most.
(DIR) Post #AFtBh6R7tfU3tsRkG0 by Coyote@shitposter.club
2022-01-28T05:24:27.340875Z
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@Coyote @Coyote @furgar Bill "stuck logic" Gates... I can smell the cpu roasting and hear the exhaust fan wizzing... And... latex was cool..
(DIR) Post #AFtC9Zwhm8TZWvnO1Q by Suiseiseki@cum.desupost.soy
2022-01-28T05:29:35.545933Z
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@furgar This is why you install GNU/Linux and not have to deal with that proprietary malware.
(DIR) Post #AFtCEuw7A1g64x45YW by furgar@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-28T05:30:33Z
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@Suiseiseki lol
(DIR) Post #AFtHcYcWHZGNaUzWwy by SigPig@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-28T06:30:51Z
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@furgar elevate a cmd prompt and use ICACLS or TAkEOWN
(DIR) Post #AFtJQPFxTGs6ymlw6S by droozilla@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-28T06:51:03Z
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@furgar file could not be deleted, skip try again cancel
(DIR) Post #AFtLBdDHUuXBpXbQ7U by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-28T07:10:48Z
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@furgar @Suiseiseki NetBSD runs on everything... without being communist.
(DIR) Post #AFtPcX9MY2e8f2qxJQ by Sophistifunk@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-28T08:00:29Z
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@Coyote @furgar @Suiseiseki everybody forgets that shit
(DIR) Post #AFtViONYfeumv8faQC by Suiseiseki@cum.desupost.soy
2022-01-28T09:08:46.775790Z
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@Coyote @furgar I don't see what software freedom has to do with communism, as communism about anti-sharing and killing people if they have other ideals.During the heights of communism in Russia, copying was heavily restricted - photocopiers had guards mainly to prevent forbidden copying.Free software is all about sharing and having freedom - something communism doesn't permit.NetBSD is under the 2 clause BSD license - one of the many pushover cuck licenses that allow the source to be taken and integrated into proprietary software.Don't be a cuck and write proprietary software for companies FOR FREE - write free software and release it under the {A}GPLv3-or-later FOR FREEDOM.GNU/Linux runs on far more computers and architectures than NetBSD actually.
(DIR) Post #AFtVzsSg4t6V8vOytk by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-28T09:11:56Z
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@Suiseiseki @furgar That's hysterical... GNU, the "here's my sister, you can fuck her in front of me forever, I agree right now when I'm 12 years old" license calls BSD (the, yea, I'll adopt this homeless whore and give her a good home and keep her safe), a cuck license...Pathetic.
(DIR) Post #AFtXRtBH64JdR7BO6q by shebang@freespeech.group
2022-01-28T09:28:11.771225Z
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@Coyote @Suiseiseki @furgar Suis is correct, you are wrong.Thanks to retarded shit licenses like BSD we've got shit like OSX floating around now.
(DIR) Post #AFtcfuiAhcA80a4owC by m@yeahnahcunt.club
2022-01-28T10:26:45.174477Z
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@shebang @Coyote @Suiseiseki @furgar I'd argue the BSD license isn't retarded.They literally gave you something for free with no strings attached. How can that be retarded?
(DIR) Post #AFtd9kM9lbn2a20MT2 by shebang@freespeech.group
2022-01-28T10:32:07.713784Z
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@m @Suiseiseki @Coyote @furgar It is retarded because it just leads to proprietization. GPL is "its free and it stays free".I gather it has some edge case uses but that's all I see it good for.
(DIR) Post #AFtdSOm0EjL78wzKFM by Alex@wreck.rocks
2022-01-28T10:35:32.251661Z
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@m @shebang @Coyote @Suiseiseki @furgar Because the corpos get it for free with no strings attached too, and they can and will use it to create oppressive and harmful software without giving anything back.
(DIR) Post #AFtfFgok2NODFZKwTY by w@arachnid.town
2022-01-28T10:55:31.116957Z
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@shebang @Suiseiseki @Coyote @furgar @m This entire thread is dogshit.> GPL helps it stay free!Yes, but if nobody is using or contributing to your software because they don't agree with your flavour of copyleft then you're boned.> Permissive licenses cause proprietization!Yes, but the core project doesn't just become nonfree out of nowhere. How you license your project is a matter of strategy. Sometimes spreading freedom isn't matter of your license enforcing it. A pretty solid example is glibc being licensed under the LGPL. They even state themselves that they do it for this reason.> But XYZ is literally communism11!1What does asking people to share source code and the same license, or letting anyone do whatever with your code have to do with $POLITICAL_IDEOLOGY? It's just a wish of the author.Personally my dream license would be an anti-copyright license. You can do whatever you like with my code, but you're required to allow people to reverse-engineer/pirate/do whatever with your binary/fork.
(DIR) Post #AFtffrDzxvMB3bd128 by shebang@freespeech.group
2022-01-28T11:00:21.236604Z
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@w @Suiseiseki @Coyote @furgar @m >This entire thread is dogshit.Yeah, because BSD users refuse to admit they are wrong about everything and always have been.>Yes, but if nobody is using orapplies to any license, I wouldn't give code to a BSD licensed program, who knows, it could end up in Apple or MS. Hard pass.>Yes, but the core project doesn't just become nonfree out of nowhere.Embrace, Extend, Extinguish ring a bell?I agree with the last part.
(DIR) Post #AFtgqdri4m4clMuRM0 by w@arachnid.town
2022-01-28T11:13:24.218519Z
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@shebang @Suiseiseki @Coyote @furgar @m > Yeah, because BSD users refuse to admit they are wrong about everything and always have been.(I use the AGPL on basically everything I make for context)> applies to any license, I wouldn't give code to a BSD licensed program, who knows, it could end up in Apple or MS. Hard pass.GPL is by nature less agreeable. I can take some MIT-licensed thing and fork it into GPL, while you can't do the same for a GPL project. Everyone in theory should prefer a permissively licensed software because they can use it how they see fit. That's partially why I use a lot of permissively licensed libraries, I can take it and make it AGPL'd and not have to deal with the headaches of other copyleft licenses.> Embrace, Extend, Extinguish ring a bell?The kinds of people invested in free software are very much immune to this. You don't see FreeBSD people hopping on over to MacOS, or Plan 9 getting destroyed by all the evil forks. I think getting rid of this in its entirety is much less a software problem than it is a corporations problem.
(DIR) Post #AFtqFOFiA15PAS0lrk by w@arachnid.town
2022-01-28T12:58:43.284420Z
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@MischievousTomato @Suiseiseki @shebang @Coyote @furgar @m No, though it's encouraged so they can help enforce your license.
(DIR) Post #AFtrCaAHVvOPCNhFvU by w@arachnid.town
2022-01-28T13:09:25.282850Z
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@MischievousTomato @Suiseiseki @shebang @Coyote @furgar @m > propietary for code you actually care aboutThere's a good overlap between code you care about, and things you should absolutely open source. I think a solid example is programming languages. It makes no sense to make proprietary languages. There was a talk Rob Pike did which I can't quite remember the name of, but he did mention that the only reason the project was published and made open source was because it couldn't succeed without help from the broader community. If anything those big important projects should be the ones you make open source. You're not going to sell a programming language with a closed ecosystem and no community to make libraries and tooling and editor support. You're not going to sell an operating system that the broader community can't tune and work on to implement every driver imaginable, or provide fixes for niche use cases.
(DIR) Post #AFtssHLZy5Qex9QYbY by EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st
2022-01-28T13:28:16.289366Z
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@MischievousTomato @w @Suiseiseki @shebang @Coyote @furgar @m I fucking hate minorities like u cannot imagine, so for that reason alone i use gpl.And by minorities i mean jews in corporations.
(DIR) Post #AFttLYmGF2DHPUrzg8 by EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st
2022-01-28T13:33:34.584524Z
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@MischievousTomato @w @Suiseiseki @shebang @Coyote @furgar @m I use gpl for what i wrote, ideally i would use agpl +nigger so that if any corporation(jew) uses the code all needed is a twitter outrage mob to know that the corporation used racist code and cancel them.
(DIR) Post #AFttZxzbHyULfSykwy by EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st
2022-01-28T13:36:11.062365Z
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@MischievousTomato @w @Suiseiseki @shebang @Coyote @furgar @m I think i’ve shown u one of my repos right? I’m pretty sure once i pushed some file where i wrote my real name, but i don’t give much of a fuck tbh.
(DIR) Post #AFtuH1TgCtQEveZxsu by barasaint@bbs.kawa-kun.com
2022-01-28T13:43:31.706517Z
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@EdBoatConnoisseur >uses this for all my github code >watch projects lose their shit@w @MischievousTomato @Suiseiseki @shebang @Coyote @furgar @m
(DIR) Post #AFuRtRuhfFcUPT9MBM by Coyote@shitposter.club
2022-01-28T20:00:40.679070Z
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@shebang @Coyote @Suiseiseki @furgar Fair point on OsX, however I stand by the fact that using the word "cuck" by a GNUer towards BSD is about the dumbest analogy I've ever heard, and instantly causes me to go "Gen X idiot thinks obscure shock value term misapplied makes a point, only proves they have no ability to analogize and they are retarded."Both license schemes have a place, I prefer BSD for about 20 years now because the code tends to be a bit more secure (obscurity maybe) and cleaner and tighter. Although, some GNU stuff is much more fun (like color grep and stuff).
(DIR) Post #AFuS67L5TG9qMcX0nA by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-28T20:02:57Z
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@Coyote@shitposter.club (written from a system running Mint... so... yea, I'm facing some Apple BIOS issues to get what I want installed on my dinosaur).
(DIR) Post #AFuaOUy59nQMUf2xea by merchantHelios@poa.st
2022-01-28T21:35:55.291416Z
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@Coyote @furgar @EdBoatConnoisseur @MischievousTomato @w @Suiseiseki @shebang @Coyote @furgar @m reminder that the more open source something is the more racist it becomes
(DIR) Post #AFuc2g6zFDh2amw1YG by sergeantcat@pl.zombiecats.run
2022-01-28T21:54:23.375815Z
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@merchantHelios @w @MischievousTomato @Suiseiseki @shebang @Coyote @furgar @EdBoatConnoisseur @m That person is on Fedi:@catgirl
(DIR) Post #AFucDdqrzGqSlickq0 by merchantHelios@poa.st
2022-01-28T21:56:21.696300Z
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@Coyote @catgirl @furgar @sergeantcat @w @MischievousTomato @Suiseiseki @catgirl @shebang @Coyote @furgar @EdBoatConnoisseur @m lol, lmao
(DIR) Post #AFunJAdyarkVPnQrLs by catgirl@flauschig.social
2022-01-28T23:38:32Z
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@sergeantcat @w @Suiseiseki @furgar @Coyote @m @shebang @MischievousTomato @EdBoatConnoisseur @merchantHelios Howdy y'all
(DIR) Post #AFunJBIOAc4jR8L8LI by EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st
2022-01-28T23:58:42.983913Z
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@catgirl @sergeantcat @w @Suiseiseki @furgar @Coyote @m @shebang @MischievousTomato @merchantHelios Hi.
(DIR) Post #AFusaQHsBU20ct8hrE by Suiseiseki@cum.desupost.soy
2022-01-29T00:59:45.152608Z
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@merchantHelios @w @MischievousTomato @shebang @Coyote @furgar @EdBoatConnoisseur @m >reminder that the more open source something is the more racist it becomes I'm completely against all forms of proprietary software, foreign and domestic, so I'm against "open source".I demand free software, so I don't understand your point.
(DIR) Post #AFut4RpuzO2Q7ONfnM by merchantHelios@poa.st
2022-01-29T01:05:11.621770Z
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@Suiseiseki @w @MischievousTomato @shebang @Coyote @furgar @EdBoatConnoisseur @m it wasnt a detraction of free software retard
(DIR) Post #AFvPbqmSSu1VZRjYDg by coyote@rage.lol
2022-01-29T07:09:44.906Z
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@Suiseiseki@cum.desupost.soy @Coyote@noagendasocial.com @furgar@noagendasocial.com Your definition of communion is that of authoritarian fascism, not librarian or free market. The people that build the alarms in your home, the "gadgets" you love, all that.. make sure the BSD code base is clean, because their income depends on it. That's capitalism, not communism. All my work I want others to take and use (cuck) is GPL, communist philosophy. BSD is libertarian, contribute to the common good, but I keep this to be my own.
(DIR) Post #AFvQ2MgGU3uC2JTooK by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T07:14:35Z
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@coyote@rage.lol @furgar @Suiseiseki PS: High and drunk, and my OpenBSD X200 still kicks @CSB 's new Microsoft Surface 8 Pro's ass for keyboard tactile feel, and in neovim... so shove Gates up the ...
(DIR) Post #AFvQ7RdJUxiCqNWPRY by furgar@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T07:15:29Z
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@coyote@rage.lol @Suiseiseki @Coyote I have also heard the idea that software licenses are socialist because it tries to get the government involved with products that anyone should be allowed to make and sale. Anyone being able to make a product is truly capitalist. Any form of permission especially copying ones and zeros is more on the socialist spectrum.
(DIR) Post #AFvQeX6eAcqPNI1IPo by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T07:21:28Z
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@furgar Power10 (IBM) view only while we watch you view license shit is spook spook spook, although not proprietary BIOS, still spooooook... I kinda want an old SPARC or maybe something that runs libreboot (coreboot) (but didn't they have a woke LGBT moment of paused development BS?)
(DIR) Post #AFvR1GC1DhLPZyMyuG by furgar@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T07:25:35Z
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@Coyote I don't know about that.
(DIR) Post #AFvRIvutLSrtuEmmNE by Coyote@shitposter.club
2022-01-29T07:28:47.060795Z
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@furgar @Coyote Primer, but when you see how they do the BIOS viewing, it's weird.. But Phoronix seems cool as fuck... https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=POWER10-Libre-HW-Slow-Start
(DIR) Post #AFvRXmv54tGILWxR2G by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T07:31:27Z
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@furgar My bad, Raptor is cool as fuck, don't know shit about phoronix, fuck them... until I know more anyway... Raptor is cool https://www.raptorcs.com/ I like what they were doing, haven't checked in a year or so, going to follow that link myself now...
(DIR) Post #AFvXVFvpM3nVBKTyzI by CSB@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T08:38:14Z
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@Coyote Yez because my #surface pro 8 has no built-in keyboard only attachable + Bluetooth can be used
(DIR) Post #AFvY0HEQZUHyBsyUSW by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T08:43:50Z
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@CSB I think you meant -, not +. ;-)
(DIR) Post #AFvYARkoIwWjikyFOq by CSB@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T08:45:41Z
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@Coyote + = andso no but it’s just not lappable like laptops - for that Microsoft has Surface Laptop StudioI myself use mechanical tenkeyless Bluetooth keyboard with it
(DIR) Post #AFvYDyk07H0OtfHC2i by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T08:46:19Z
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@CSB #BSD v. #Surface. Throwdown... +/- all #MeMe #Warfare #funny
(DIR) Post #AFvYI2T2ChATc1HCaG by CSB@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T08:47:03Z
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@Coyote Not comparable: you would have to have touch screen + precise pen support to be comparable
(DIR) Post #AFvYK6o32i23eG5n6m by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T08:47:25Z
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@CSB having bluetooth you have to disable with software switches, = #SecurityFlaw @adam might agree?
(DIR) Post #AFvYO6xsOZFdIYb8rI by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T08:48:09Z
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@CSB Fingers on #VIM v. #Mouse, No challenge, words fly faster without rodents...
(DIR) Post #AFvYhjVbJWkmLHjFFQ by CSB@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T08:51:42Z
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@Coyote my mechanical keyboard is bothBluetooth and USB-C so Bluetooth-less operation also possible
(DIR) Post #AFvYkjTDufMz5m2yMi by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T08:52:14Z
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@CSB @CSB ... @CSB...I present...# ThePrimeagen Text speed... fast... meme me that... https://youtu.be/mMCvKZaWUi8What has #FarSide comedy got for wit?(no seriously, I love to laugh, let's have fun)
(DIR) Post #AFvYoa3cqru53auP9E by CSB@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T08:52:52Z
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@Coyote I am not enemy of vim
(DIR) Post #AFvZ33YpxIqqc9PUpc by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T08:55:33Z
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@CSB I am not the enemy of comics... I am quite the fan. This is a troll.. not a war, a good fun in jest that may banter a week or two if you volley well.. just .. a thought...
(DIR) Post #AFvZH4EgF84YlHfAYq by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T08:58:05Z
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@CSB a picture is worth a thousand words, and I will attempt to rise to the challenge, take your time, it's all just a fucking joke anyway, maybe it will go sideways and be funnier... dunno, your probably going to win on first doodle...
(DIR) Post #AFvZLJwNnKIgcz8Hh2 by coyote@rage.lol
2022-01-29T08:58:50.995Z
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He's been drinking and already high, don't listen to this troll...
(DIR) Post #AFval9EOKp1stcR3Dc by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T09:14:43Z
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@CSB Memes.. maybe you can do this one sexier? Hundreds of thousands of hours of crowd sourced research fact checked this and translated it accurate, all words, into this.A picture is worth a 1000 words.https://twitter.com/BoredInTucson/status/1483606878340861957In graph formhttps://rage.lol/notes/8w36jl6jya
(DIR) Post #AFvcdF3yy1d2ZkvNKK by Suiseiseki@cum.desupost.soy
2022-01-29T09:35:38.022740Z
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@furgar @coyote @Coyote Thanks to the Berne Convention, the government is automatically involved and as such, the government ensures that the software is automatically proprietary.You need to add a license in order to make the software not proprietary.Anyone can use GPL code as long as they follow it's easy to follow terms, which is releasing the source under the same license.Most BSD licenses are free software licenses, but they're not optimal, as the software is often just taken and turned proprietary.
(DIR) Post #AFvfcTvwUgNqGgUcoS by colinsmatt11@gleasonator.com
2022-01-29T10:07:38.705264Z
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By your own definition, copyright, patent and trademark are "socialist" yet all of the "capitalists" depends on these government enforced rules.
(DIR) Post #AFvfcUgjghoWboNzkW by Alex@wreck.rocks
2022-01-29T10:09:11.329108Z
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@colinsmatt11 @furgar @coyote @Suiseiseki @Coyote They certainly aren't free market
(DIR) Post #AFvfpDpXg0fU5bZfW4 by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T10:11:29Z
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@colinsmatt11 Government are the middle men, skimmers, just like business and corporations.Inventors have rights to inventions, manufactures and labors have rights and pride in production. That is capitalist. Communists are the "middle men" that want you to license rights and redistribute as they see fit, while skimming... Licensing wise..As far as governments, they can all fuck themselves...
(DIR) Post #AFvg4WRakmOCA8fRRI by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T10:14:15Z
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@colinsmatt11 In capitalism, manufactures and laborers, and inventors, all contribute to COMMON NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE, like roads and bridges, and NO MORE... not vax, not mandate...Communism says "give me ALL your profit and reward, and I'll make sure everyone gets what they need" and (ha ha, I'm not corrupt, I won't keep the excess).Whatever.. GPL is commie, BSD works clean, because CAPITALIST BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE and that's why our code is cleaner...
(DIR) Post #AFvgC9mssFTAD9GcnQ by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T10:15:38Z
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@colinsmatt11 Socialism = BloatCapitalism = Eat what you Kill....We are human, but we are animal, not vegetable or fungi...
(DIR) Post #AFvgQU0OV7uUyCPx8i by Alex@wreck.rocks
2022-01-29T10:18:13.719720Z
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@Coyote @colinsmatt11 So what you're saying is, all copyright, patents, and trademarks are communism?
(DIR) Post #AFvgVqHD7md9UUq4Rc by colinsmatt11@gleasonator.com
2022-01-29T10:19:00.932590Z
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If you really cared about the "commons", you would put in public domain not under a license which re-enforces government mandated copyright.
(DIR) Post #AFvgcI9aOKCjggLd5s by furgar@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T10:20:21Z
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@Coyote @colinsmatt11 Capitalism is when I sale you something I made even if I didn't invent it. In capitalism I dont need permission, licensing or rights granted to me for something I have made with my own effort. Software is weird though because I can copy your effort without you losing anything tangible like a chair or wood to make the chair. Many people claim to be capitalists but don't really agree with everything that involves.
(DIR) Post #AFvglWc408r98e4RtY by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T10:22:01Z
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@furgar Oh shit, yea, I see where this is comming from, and I'm to high to explain.. No, I get the direction, but you applied it wrong, gimme a second, if i can't think of how to clear this up, I will tomrrow when I'm sober..
(DIR) Post #AFvgrA7gX0WJ7mY88W by icedquinn@blob.cat
2022-01-29T10:23:01.228018Z
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@furgar @Coyote @colinsmatt11 being able to just copy shit poses a bit of a problem though.it creates an entire class of "business" men who are predatory; ex. the Zynga days.
(DIR) Post #AFvgwgYRNZ8H9nhKK0 by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T10:24:02Z
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@furgarFoundations of arguments, must define terms, "Capitalism" is not that... it's about individual liberty to aquire and redistribute capital without government intervention.. which means, individual inventors (nto the work product corporation, EDISON), should gain rewards.. so no there.. but I'm high, wait...
(DIR) Post #AFvhEIFOUWkCyxBXF2 by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T10:27:13Z
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@furgar "I sale you something I made even if I didn't invent it."You are at that point a salesman (con man) and a thief (of ideas), but in the end, USUALLY, a "knock off artist."Now Trademark law, unlike patent law, is consumer protection law, to PROPERLY IDENTIFY THE SOURCE so the consumer can get liability....Knockoff artests make the manufacture liable for knockoff product vailure, and therefore NEED to try to prevent it...Thus.. "Trademark" Who's trade stands behind the product
(DIR) Post #AFvhJv5XVbEOtSG5po by furgar@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T10:28:14Z
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@icedquinn @colinsmatt11 @Coyote I believe civilization was built off of copying each other. Like whoever invented the wheel could only make so many but anyone who saw one should be able to make their own wheel and sell it. Ideas are made to be copied. Like I believe you should be able to make a Mickey Mouse t-shirt and sale it without the Walt Disney corp coming after you. I dont care if Walt Disney's descendants cant profit off of it. Intellectual property has gotten way out of hand.
(DIR) Post #AFvhPW1Hct0Ysjw5sO by icedquinn@blob.cat
2022-01-29T10:29:14.445833Z
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@furgar @Coyote @colinsmatt11 designing the good *is* the job in the case of intellectual property. similar to how research is very important in medicine.if you can just wait for someone else to pay for that and then step in and make a product then it kinda screws over everyone who funds the inventors and i forget the name of this exact problem but basically it has to do with making a game (as in game theory) of whether to fund an OSS project or just use it for free (even though you COULD pay)the optimal strategy is basically to stick on to something where the cost is already paid and you just flip it for bucks.but this tends to be a bad outcome. in those environments the funders tend to be people who can afford to burn the money (ex. when the US Navy has projects done because they literally NEED the salt reactors and the market isn't willing to pay the first mover penalty) if you can strike that set of strategies off the strategy matrix the outcome is probably better. this is why the US original doctrine of copyright literaly says "to further the arts" implying the protection is supposed to be this kind of removal of a dominant strategy (when previously, Britain was interested in IP more so publishers had something to monopolize.)
(DIR) Post #AFvhVozhzZ4dT5CrCq by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T10:30:23Z
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@furgar Ok, now we are in Copyright.. Trademark is just "source identifier." Patent is just "inventor." and .. Copyright...Aaron Schwartz did not suicide himself, he was a hero. With you on that one.
(DIR) Post #AFvhXfa9xNy4r98Zqi by furgar@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T10:30:43Z
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@Coyote Tesla was the inventor and Edison just profited off of the patents. Mr. Patent Office
(DIR) Post #AFvhZZlEZUwLNfE5Ue by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T10:31:04Z
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@furgar That one is an IP segment I'm 100% with @adam value for value...
(DIR) Post #AFvhbHxzhW88lw0m6C by icedquinn@blob.cat
2022-01-29T10:31:21.132685Z
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@furgar well as i posted, the US' thing specifically says in the interest of furthering the arts.It was fully intended to strike out the predatory/chinese strategy of cutting out the inventory but was then also intended to expire after there was enough time to market.expiry times also were different for each medium based on the general service life of the medium. film hated this 'cause theirs was the shortest, i think a movie lost its rights after 20 years? books were 40.@colinsmatt11 @Coyote
(DIR) Post #AFvhf61i2HKStnZ4ee by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T10:32:04Z
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@furgar No, much worse. Tesla had scientific ideas that were SUPPRESSED by government funded ideas Edison had... but yea, over all, you have it..
(DIR) Post #AFvhjLEDSSbTCkRHA8 by icedquinn@blob.cat
2022-01-29T10:32:49.298799Z
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@Coyote @furgar yup. trademark and servicemark are just about protecting the brand. :ablobcatderpy:
(DIR) Post #AFvhxLJXw2cLWdbmym by colinsmatt11@gleasonator.com
2022-01-29T10:34:10.815645Z
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Isn't protection just restrictions on others?
(DIR) Post #AFvhxLpo06QD8ghYGG by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T10:35:21Z
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@colinsmatt11 sure.. yea.I "protect" my toothbrush because I don't want "others" to use it. of course. That is a GOOD thing.Not all things are black and white, good and bad.. They are "right level for this situation" always...
(DIR) Post #AFvhyeOIUhXwypSE88 by icedquinn@blob.cat
2022-01-29T10:35:35.434415Z
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@colinsmatt11 if you can't have brand restrictions then its going to make shopping very difficult.@Coyote @furgar
(DIR) Post #AFvi4aDMvzSplVAhBg by colinsmatt11@gleasonator.com
2022-01-29T10:29:12.273737Z
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Nobody owns ideas, copyright only applies to WORK and ideas and other metaphysical don't count as WORK.
(DIR) Post #AFvi4b0I06b0DE3lRI by furgar@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T10:36:40Z
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@colinsmatt11 @Coyote I am just arguing that trademarks don't matter and its not really consumer protection. Anything beyond you valuing a toy I made more than your $20 moves away from capitalism and moves towards government intervention for their own benefit in the end. As an artist or creator I should be able to make a fake Tesla and if I can con(convince) a person to buy it for cheaper and they like it, so be it. You can argue that all sales are inherently evil that's fine. Bartering is good.
(DIR) Post #AFviCFmYmkqmiCI0UC by icedquinn@blob.cat
2022-01-29T10:38:02.551991Z
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@furgar @colinsmatt11 @Coyote i will uninstall myself because people keep untagging me :blobcatsnapped:
(DIR) Post #AFvieQ3cAzw2ghhHTU by furgar@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-29T10:43:08Z
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@icedquinn @colinsmatt11 @Coyote Sorry I am not trying to do that on purpose I am just not very good at mastodon/fediverse. I just mainly know how to share memes.
(DIR) Post #AFvtuQiMbEN8r5atCi by Alex@wreck.rocks
2022-01-29T12:49:18.359097Z
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@icedquinn @colinsmatt11 @Coyote @furgar Trademark tends to be the one form of "IP" that even hardcore anti IP libertarians sometimes support. In modern usage trademark has been jumbled together with things like copyright and patents into a massive abomination, to form our modern concept of "intellectual property", but trademark itself is most definitely not "intellectual property" nor is it meant to be used as such. Like many things, it is twisted and perverted by the current legal systems. Trademark is fraud protection for the consumer in the end, and real victim of trademark violations is the person who purchased the product - therefore, the only person who should receive compensation for damages in trademark violations are the people who bought the product, not the company whose trademark is violated.
(DIR) Post #AGRmSToC4zGQdIQsoS by Iskamag@distrotoot.com
2022-02-13T19:40:27Z
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@Suiseiseki @Coyote @furgar If I remember correctly, that's not what communism is. Communism is taking the usual hierarchy structure out and instead putting everyone in one home so everyone could share. It's still impractical because a Stalin can appear and ruin the whole country in a couple of years, and hierarchy will build itself anyway and everything becomes worse.
(DIR) Post #AGRmSUpeH41Po67Yie by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-02-13T21:56:34Z
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@Iskamag @Suiseiseki @furgar You opened with BSD is "cuck" only to realize that GPL is actually cuck, watch your code forever get fucked by others while you stand by and can never own anything. And defensive about the mere existence of competition to GPL, so stepped up authoritarian fascist dogma about now it's not communist.Now you are saying just arguing about what communism is and isn't? So, I'm done with this now I guess, because BSD is tighter code I like better, Stalin not relevant.
(DIR) Post #AGTEwAKM4BfCm6NZgW by Iskamag@distrotoot.com
2022-02-14T14:50:22Z
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@Coyote @Suiseiseki @furgar Okay, you can leave if you want. Though next time don't yell at someone who didn't mention nor have talked with you.Also I didn't say anything about cuck licenses vs gpl, only correcting suise.