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       Post AFqU804cuiwBGMe14a by JohnsNotHere@infosec.exchange
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 (DIR) Post #AFZnN0t6fqeAuFCpo8 by JohnsNotHere@infosec.exchange
       2022-01-16T03:23:45Z
       
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       Whayts with EV cults?  Tesla seems to create two extreme camps, the lovers and the haters.  I think EVs are great, lots to learn for sure, but great.  I&#39;m not a fan of Tesla due to Elon being an ass, but also because the cars all look the same. I&#39;m waiting for an Ioniq 5 to be delivered (being built in March), and I&#39;m giddy.  Any other EV fans?
       
 (DIR) Post #AFZnN1fflHUlKrvcVU by Ent@infosec.exchange
       2022-01-18T20:52:17Z
       
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       @JohnsNotHereI&#39;m pretty ambivalent on EVs right now. Environmentally, they&#39;re as bad or worse than combustion cars when you take into account manufacturing the car, eventual disposal of the lithium batteries, and the lack of efficiency in power line transmission (50% loss is not abnormal). For a commuting/short range car, it would do the job, but would be annoying at best on longer trips. Charging isn&#39;t a 5min stop like grabbing gas.
       
 (DIR) Post #AFqU804cuiwBGMe14a by JohnsNotHere@infosec.exchange
       2022-01-26T22:06:46Z
       
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       @Ent It&#39;s funny, we used to do an annual trip that would take about 23 hours over two days, and I used abetterrouteplanner.com to map out different vehicles to see which one would be best.  I settled on the Hyundai Ioniq5 which seems to add about 2 hours to the trip with charging, which is good enough for me.Most of my driving is short stints, and even with my petrol car I was filling up once a week.  Infrastructure here is getting better for EVs, so I&#39;m giving them a shot now.
       
 (DIR) Post #AFsMrA5S7XfA25yT5c by Ent@infosec.exchange
       2022-01-27T19:54:41Z
       
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       @JohnsNotHereI&#39;m sure utilities like that help. A friend of mine recently got a Tesla, and I can&#39;t remember how much extra time he said it took compared to a gas car for the 16+ hour drive that brought him through town. On certain things, I prefer avoiding bleeding edge to avoid issues, much like waiting before applying big OS feature updates.
       
 (DIR) Post #AFykYHUZtJAxliOD7w by JohnsNotHere@infosec.exchange
       2022-01-30T21:48:30Z
       
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       @Ent I&#39;m not fooling myself into believing EVs are ready for the general public - they&#39;re not.  There&#39;s a certain level of planning, etc., that needs to be done first for sure.  Battery technology, charging infrastructure, etc., will all get better, but we need adoption to ensure we get the resources put on those advancements.  I&#39;m willing to go in on that for now to help future generations get to a better place.  That and I like tech.  🙂
       
 (DIR) Post #AG0LvGXMfDVcVKULse by Ent@infosec.exchange
       2022-01-31T16:21:58Z
       
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       @JohnsNotHereI like tech as well, but I&#39;m more than a little judicious about which things I go bleeding edge on. One of my primary metrics for a car is reliability, and only time will tell whether EVs will bear out reliability like my car&#39;s 300k miles so far. They still have significant drawbacks, like not handling frigid temperatures well, and I like sliding down frozen hills quickly on a board 😆
       
 (DIR) Post #AG1B3Alb65xQaQfop6 by JohnsNotHere@infosec.exchange
       2022-02-01T01:54:48Z
       
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       @Ent I wouldn&#39;t consider EVs &quot;bleeding edge&quot; tech, but some of the infrastructure, yes.  I know more than a few folks who have had Tesla&#39;s for many years without issues in the Canadian winters, but apparently the recent Model Ys are not cut from the same cloth.  But I avoid Tesla for other reasons.I&#39;m going with Hyundai because they&#39;ve had EVs for a number of years as well, and I had an ICE version in the past that was rock solid.  To each their own I suppose, but it will meet my needs.  🙂
       
 (DIR) Post #AG2dYnyoLU653VgaSe by Ent@infosec.exchange
       2022-02-01T18:49:01Z
       
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       @JohnsNotHereOnly time will tell how electric cars last being driven something like 300k miles over 16 years like my car has already clocked. Considering the lifetime of cell phone lithium batteries, I&#39;m not optimistic about the lithium waste from car batteries needing replacing (or the cost of said replacements). CO2 is pretty benign compared to the sludge from lithium batteries.
       
 (DIR) Post #AG2dbFWithwf4PiIme by Ent@infosec.exchange
       2022-02-01T18:49:28Z
       
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       @JohnsNotHereAnother factor for me is I don&#39;t own my own home yet. Charging is more expensive using third party services compared to using a direct line in your own place, and most apartments aren&#39;t going to provide that infrastructure unless there&#39;s a clear ROI. At a minimum, it isn&#39;t worth considering until owning a place.
       
 (DIR) Post #AG4SszZEwMhg9vsGfI by JohnsNotHere@infosec.exchange
       2022-02-02T15:58:49Z
       
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       @Ent Very good point.  I know of some US condo associations that are forbidding EV chargers due to fire risk (thanks GM), but since I own my place I&#39;m good with it.I tend to keep my cars for years.  My current one has 200k km and is 10 years old (if it wasn&#39;t for COVID I&#39;m sure I&#39;d be closer to 250k), and I&#39;m hoping to do a similar thing with the new car.  I&#39;ll definitely keep folks updated.