Post AFjfeaKLJBT5goPdhY by Moon@shitposter.club
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(DIR) Post #AFhnWXDNPI2r2MuH4a by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2022-01-22T17:31:47.321834Z
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>pleroma fork>TL;DR: Alex Gleason is now a pain in the ass and neither feld nor lain seem to care.wow wtf
(DIR) Post #AFhnmSfW4q0pZSfBSq by yes@social.handholding.io
2022-01-22T17:34:40.521596Z
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@pleb @fluffy idea: pleroma fork for anime shitposters, high post rate, groups and voice chat.
(DIR) Post #AFhr1sPgwNVNchIsZE by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2022-01-22T18:11:04.563035Z
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@fluffy Not just a pain in the ass. A smug pain in the ass.
(DIR) Post #AFhr4jIjHC6eEMPJmy by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2022-01-22T18:11:34.558946Z
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@Ricotta what happened
(DIR) Post #AFhrBtiGxmM6Y9lzFI by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2022-01-22T18:12:52.839516Z
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@fluffy So long as Gleason is getting his way, anyone who updates Pleroma pretty much has to use Soapbox, and he's gloating about it.
(DIR) Post #AFhrGNvgYsGdQGBckS by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2022-01-22T18:13:41.460445Z
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@Ricotta what? what actually happened
(DIR) Post #AFhrTxv63q68oGO2jI by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2022-01-22T18:16:09.165150Z
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@fluffy You're probably better off asking @p or @Moon that question. I'm not sure of the technical details, and haven't been going out of my way to follow the drama.
(DIR) Post #AFhriO5dYfjE1qC5HE by yes@social.handholding.io
2022-01-22T18:18:45.417275Z
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@Ricotta @fluffy @Moon @p as long as the UX is consistent i dont give a fuck what the solution is. alex needs to go to rehab so his fart huffing addiction can be treated.
(DIR) Post #AFhrmzorDuF6CcXipU by Moon@shitposter.club
2022-01-22T18:19:35.458753Z
12 likes, 3 repeats
@Ricotta @fluffy @p Gleason has commit rights to the official project. He merged a "controversial" change without asking anyone and was very aggressive and dismissive to people complaining. Multiple people quit the project either vocally or not, lanodan (and it looks like kaniini is back) are preparing a fork, and I believe floatingghost announced plan to maintain their fork independently.
(DIR) Post #AFhs5kDVSOOpJZ0oZk by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2022-01-22T18:22:56.931124Z
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@Moon @Ricotta @p thanksbun back is news
(DIR) Post #AFhs71vX63YaWzDafQ by Moon@shitposter.club
2022-01-22T18:23:12.605963Z
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@Ricotta @fluffy @p the specific change was excluding @ handles in replies. There are ways to mitigate the complaints about the change but a lot of people were upset either with the undiscussed merge, the handling of it after, the non-response by lain I guess, and finally, the actual change itself
(DIR) Post #AFhsCaPCKlgWubk8fI by apropos@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T18:24:13.499207Z
4 likes, 1 repeats
@fluffy @Ricotta SoapboxFE didn't have a "reply to" feature in the UI like PleromaFE has, so Alex added it. While doing so, for no reason, he decided that Pleroma should also stop including tags in message bodies since that information is redundant in ActivityPub. When everyone immediately complained that this is a startling and unnecessary break from how the fediverse works, he gradually lost his mind. I stopped paying attention and then blocked him when he reached the "NONE OF YOU CAN STOP ME MUAHHAAHA, JUST FUCKING DIE ALREADY" stage.It's startling but eventually people will live with it. The fediverse has never had top-shelf, polished, people-are-paid-to-work-on-this software, and glitchy tags isn't the first wrinkle in federation. Alex though is confirmed not someone I want working on anything I rely on.
(DIR) Post #AFhsFTpzD4TJPWeYls by Moon@shitposter.club
2022-01-22T18:24:44.307536Z
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@fluffy @Ricotta @p There is a fork meeting tomorrow to discuss it, I will be attending even though I am not an active contributor and am not abandoning the official project.
(DIR) Post #AFhsHuLjbqzkDQf25A by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2022-01-22T18:25:10.764341Z
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@Moon @fluffy @p My gut is telling me that the proper way to handle all this shit is to make Soapbox and all associated bullshit its own fork that doesn't affect the main branch.
(DIR) Post #AFhsM9x3Xm7PlL93Gi by apropos@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T18:25:57.311574Z
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@Ricotta @Moon @fluffy @p the obvious solution was always for Soapbox to hide tags if it wants in the UI, without affecting federation at all.
(DIR) Post #AFhsNThHcEDzIAOc4G by Moon@shitposter.club
2022-01-22T18:26:11.066444Z
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@Ricotta @fluffy @p Gleason actually is maintaining his own fork now too lol but he was already doing that.
(DIR) Post #AFhsUbDo2PH4ek0JUG by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2022-01-22T18:27:28.421983Z
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@Moon @fluffy @p Then why is he shitting up the main branch as well?
(DIR) Post #AFhsVo3nn0pslQtso4 by ilja@ilja.space
2022-01-22T18:27:37.429887Z
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@Moon @p @fluffy @Ricotta There were other merges around christmass. The @'s were in soapbox, not pleroma itself. The problem there was that people complained and he decided to incite drama instead of trying to find a solution that would resolve those issues. And not wanting to resolve issues is the behaviour he had shown in the previous mr's, so it for some this was just a last drop.
(DIR) Post #AFhsY6y4SkDfz4JpE8 by coyote@enitor.xyz
2022-01-22T18:28:05.860587Z
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@Moon @p @fluffy @Ricotta all the fingers in all the pies
(DIR) Post #AFhsaQcmLokZWjSr20 by Moon@shitposter.club
2022-01-22T18:28:31.450728Z
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@Ricotta @fluffy @p there are changes that are perceived as applicable to only soapbox and ones applicable to both I guess.
(DIR) Post #AFhsnHPttd0ojaZK6q by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2022-01-22T18:30:50.956515Z
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@coyote @Moon @fluffy @p Probably not a finger.
(DIR) Post #AFhsoSzuKCBowOybrs by Moon@shitposter.club
2022-01-22T18:31:03.698267Z
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@ilja @Ricotta @fluffy @p I don't want to keep posting replies but I am compelled to say that I have not been directly affected by any of the changes or the response to criticism so I don't have a dog in this fight. Obviously I am very invested in Pleroma so I might have to become a contributor even though I'm just not that excited about it.
(DIR) Post #AFhsqe83uPvY2mpWoy by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2022-01-22T18:31:25.632932Z
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@Moon @Ricotta @p the rollout of new reply functionality was not well handled i agree but i had no idea it was so catastrophic that you'd make hundreds of hours of extra work for yourself by forking just because of it
(DIR) Post #AFhvOYGOQJdbbe1Q00 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T19:00:00.153553Z
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@Ricotta @fluffy @Moon Ah, basically he's doing stuff that screws everything up, there are potential forks, big mess.So Alex is hacking on Soapbox, then he decides the backend isn't going how he wants so he renames Pleroma "Soapbox BE" and tweaks some shit. The first time he gets pushback because he screws up the network, he goes full drama club and starts putting "community" in quotes and talking about how he's the only Jesus Christ to Save the Feddy Verse. (You'd think a vegan would be a little more interested in cooperation, but whatever.)
(DIR) Post #AFhvTUnGkdkuIDkzj6 by allison@hidamari.apartments
2022-01-22T19:00:53.010285Z
10 likes, 1 repeats
@p @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta Vegans having messiah complexes is nothing new, I thought you would know this already
(DIR) Post #AFhvnIzSLV9zTcu4DA by sevvie@silkhe.art
2022-01-22T19:04:25.678Z
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@p@freespeechextremist.com @Ricotta@yggdrasil.social @fluffy@social.handholding.io @Moon@shitposter.club > (You'd think a vegan would be a little more interested in cooperation, but whatever.)No I wouldn't; one vegan can screw up the purchasing and eating of an entire residential block.
(DIR) Post #AFhwDnZjFnp3rcVDiS by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T19:09:15.853981Z
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@yes @Ricotta @Moon @fluffy > fart huffing addictionIt's a side effect of veganism, you know? I was renting a room for a while, right, and I didn't have a fridge. So I used to drink about half a gallon of milk a day, and then I get there and no milk. So I tried drinking soy milk, because it keeps at room temperature. Here's the thing, though, you chug a carton of Silk and you're going to be producing an excessive amount of methane. It's bean juice. Just constant stream of gases coming out both ends. You get accustomed to it, I imagine. (I didn't. A week of that and basically I just started picking up a quart of milk on the way to work or on the way back and drinking it in the car. Could not cope with another drop of that stuff, but I didn't have some kind of moral imperative towards vegetal.)
(DIR) Post #AFhwLNxOO016j7Bkqu by yes@social.handholding.io
2022-01-22T19:10:37.478035Z
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@p @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy i am starting to understand how gamers feel when people tell them to use arch linux because it's "so much better than windows".
(DIR) Post #AFhwZ1p9TM6U8Xq7Si by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T19:13:06.059563Z
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@Moon @Ricotta @fluffy Yeah, a little notice if you're going to do something that affects posts as they travel the network. Team Pleroma Team has always done a really good job easing things in slowly when they affect the network, and (with one notable exception) none of them responds with "I DO WHAT I WANT THIS IS PROGRESS" when encountering pushback.
(DIR) Post #AFhwfePUvGn9Xzzw2K by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T19:14:17.871644Z
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@Ricotta @Moon @fluffy > Then why:facesofautism2: How dare you question PROGRESS?
(DIR) Post #AFhwyxTSGgC4Au3UtE by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2022-01-22T19:17:45.988618Z
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@p @Ricotta @Moon > I’m not building this for those people. I’m building for normies. I want to obsolete Twitter. I've thought about this at length. i think that if the software could be made profitable for influencers then there is some hope. but as written, fedi is very much not. I no longer have much hope for adoption by normies of fedi.
(DIR) Post #AFhxHbxuSfQgy7C8qu by verita84@rage.lol
2022-01-22T19:21:08.998Z
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@apropos@freespeechextremist.com @Ricotta@yggdrasil.social @Moon@shitposter.club @fluffy@social.handholding.io @p@freespeechextremist.com The solution is Misskey over Pleroma
(DIR) Post #AFhxNxO3jErP91S4fo by ringo@dobbs.town
2022-01-22T19:22:17Z
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@sevvie @p @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta hahahah yeah most vegans if given the choice would torture everyone into eating their diet of cardboard and soy cheese. =\ no thank you
(DIR) Post #AFhxXsUim2byrmIZwO by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2022-01-22T19:24:00.640733Z
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@p @Moon @fluffy @yes @Ricotta This shit or why I tend to avoid soy milk, there is other alternatives anyway.Soy is better for other things.
(DIR) Post #AFhxa34qOn7wGcEJqi by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T19:24:29.425711Z
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@allison @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy Obvious in retrospect.
(DIR) Post #AFhxcLTCz8zRtIimXY by allison@hidamari.apartments
2022-01-22T19:24:52.881335Z
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@lanodan @p @Moon @fluffy @yes @Ricotta IMHO soy milk is only really useful as an intermediary in the process of making tofu, I see no appeal to the stuff by itself (then again I see actual dairy milk much the same way)
(DIR) Post #AFhxlrdYl5q0GG6NaS by yes@social.handholding.io
2022-01-22T19:26:37.017077Z
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@allison @lanodan @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @p so the fork is genuine angus pleroma?
(DIR) Post #AFhxotnJC7LHow6osq by allison@hidamari.apartments
2022-01-22T19:27:08.479766Z
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@yes @p @lanodan @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta it has the rabbit, what do you think?
(DIR) Post #AFhxp7ebfGhSo094GO by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2022-01-22T19:27:07.680907Z
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@allison @p @Moon @fluffy @yes @Ricotta That and yogurts I guess.
(DIR) Post #AFhxrr2XtJGY9Be4XY by yes@social.handholding.io
2022-01-22T19:27:41.785992Z
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@allison @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @lanodan @p oh so it's "ethical pleroma"?
(DIR) Post #AFhxuTZ5cxYWD27Ll2 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2022-01-22T19:28:05.741901Z
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@yes @p @allison @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta Nah, there isn't only gonna be the rabbit.
(DIR) Post #AFhxvXBHfVjHiJUGoa by allison@hidamari.apartments
2022-01-22T19:28:21.198126Z
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@yes @p @lanodan @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta free-range pleroma
(DIR) Post #AFhxy6DwLpKSyax8Wu by yes@social.handholding.io
2022-01-22T19:28:49.487431Z
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@lanodan @Moon @Ricotta @allison @fluffy @p usagi flavored pleroma
(DIR) Post #AFhyUDINautiAvLIMy by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T19:34:38.452787Z
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@sevvie @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta I stand corrected.
(DIR) Post #AFhyf7ORsXQ53VNggK by throwaway1@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T19:36:36.699176Z
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@p @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy sounds like potteringism
(DIR) Post #AFhylRlN3cfty77Wpk by mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl
2022-01-22T19:37:36.422933Z
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undiscussed merge of a change in develop branch of his own project (soapbox)?
(DIR) Post #AFhympvchFyXCoZvkm by Moon@shitposter.club
2022-01-22T19:37:59.866065Z
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@mkljczk @fluffy @p @Ricotta I got my facts wrong
(DIR) Post #AFhytNV4n3yj43HSk4 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T19:39:11.326017Z
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@yes @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy I wouldn't like to use Arch much if I could avoid it, but there is one Windows machine here and all it does is play Hotline Miami and it *still* crashes a lot. (I haven't turned it on since getting Hotline Miami for the PS4. I have System Shock installed but I didn't play it yet.)vegancorndog.png
(DIR) Post #AFi0CcWJGqrX6Vb4TY by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T19:53:52.278414Z
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@fluffy @Moon @Ricotta > I've thought about this at length.Yeah, here's the thing: I am at odds with normies in terms of UI. This is fine with me, you know? I can use bloat and they can use Soapbox or whatever. (PleromaFE works all right for *both* types, a rare achievement.) As long as nobody fucks up the *network*, we can coexist just fine.> I no longer have much hope for adoption by normies of fedi.If the normies don't want to leave Twitter, then turning this place into another Twitter just to try to attract them is not going to work. Twenty years ago, Red Hat tried to turn Linux into Windows to get normies to use free software and that just fucked with Linux and normies still run Windows. I don't think Alex Gleason is going to do a better job with the same strategy. In the best-case scenario, it ends with two Twitters: regular Twitter and Kirkland Signature Twitter. Fuck that completely, I won't participate.If it is different from Twitter in a material way that people notice, they hop. "Ape Twitter" is a failing strategy for beating Twitter. If he understood that, then Spinster wouldn't be full of people that only post when they're banned from Twitter. (That is, when Spinster is materially different from Twitter, because Twitter stops letting them post.)Anyway, I don't want to argue "the burning platform" when I could just hack on the thing I'm hacking on.
(DIR) Post #AFi0LmxDqXsy4SYaHY by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T19:55:31.699313Z
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@verita84 @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta @apropos JavaScript is shit and, for the same reason that I'm not running Mastodon, I don't want to deploy something that I don't want to hack on for fun.
(DIR) Post #AFi0R7ZwamwJU7DAS8 by Moon@shitposter.club
2022-01-22T19:56:28.977750Z
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@p @verita84 @Ricotta @apropos @fluffy I like JS but single thread is pretty shit for this type of application
(DIR) Post #AFi1K0eY2lcpvqXOaG by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T20:06:24.706976Z
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@lanodan @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @yes Rice Dream tastes decent; I like to use it when I wish I was drinking caffeinated milk but I'm out of coffee, because it will allow you to mix caffeinated concentrates in without curdling.
(DIR) Post #AFi1w8E2L14AQCJbSy by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T20:13:18.088807Z
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@throwaway1 @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy Yes, indeed.systemdstd.jpg
(DIR) Post #AFi1zA5hrG6p4nrbaC by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T20:13:50.946457Z
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@mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta > in develop branch...And then deployed on every single instance that runs Soapbox.
(DIR) Post #AFi2C9jaUnKLjbiK0W by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T20:16:11.850385Z
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@Moon @Ricotta @apropos @fluffy @verita84 Can you run multiple Misskeys and round-robin them?
(DIR) Post #AFi2FnPBSNI7dluDa4 by thatfightnerd@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-22T20:16:50.936795Z
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@p @apropos @verita84 @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta That's the whole point of containers, innit?
(DIR) Post #AFi2GkwY5y2MIKyCHI by inference@pleroma.inferencium.net
2022-01-22T20:17:00.286441Z
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@p @throwaway1 @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta Yes, systemd is an STD; you don't want to catch it.
(DIR) Post #AFi2UzXEdlS3bWuwue by verita84@rage.lol
2022-01-22T20:19:33.039Z
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@thatfightnerd@kiwifarms.cc @p@freespeechextremist.com @apropos@freespeechextremist.com @Moon@shitposter.club @fluffy@social.handholding.io @Ricotta@yggdrasil.social You need the MissKeyRing :alex:
(DIR) Post #AFi2VuAA6DrbETYpMW by mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl
2022-01-22T20:19:42.399767Z
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I wanted to point out that it’s just a change in Soapbox, which simply implements Pleroma API, rather than undiscussed change merged to Pleroma.I can name instances running Soapbox that are still on 1.3.0
(DIR) Post #AFi2zKV9FiRJJlPLJA by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T20:25:05.067776Z
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@thatfightnerd @Moon @Ricotta @apropos @fluffy @verita84 No.Pleroma is fine with SMP but you cannot have multiple instances of the same Pleroma (though rin has been working on this). What I am asking is whether that's possible for Misskey.
(DIR) Post #AFi3Rm8S6UQH8CM7pw by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T20:30:13.518590Z
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@mkljczk @fluffy @Moon @Ricotta > which simply implements Pleroma APIFor *years*, changes that affect the network have been done carefully in Pleroma. "It's in the API!" is flimsy if you're doing something that changes the way posts federate. I don't like Soapbox but until it affected the network, I had nothing to complain about. Have you updated everyone's phone clients to cope with this change yet?> I can name instances running Soapbox that are still on 1.3.0If Poast and Spinster and Gleasonator run the dev branch, that's basically the entirety of Soapbox.
(DIR) Post #AFi3eKyoNWZyfspvSi by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2022-01-22T20:32:28.006037Z
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@p @mkljczk @Moon @Ricotta is it tho :senko:
(DIR) Post #AFi4oq0fxpv9lLHNvk by mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl
2022-01-22T20:45:31.690446Z
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>For *years*, changes that affect the network have been done carefully in PleromaLain implemented this in 2019>if you're doing something that changes the way posts federateIt doesn’t affect federation. "tag" property has exactly the same content. Everything works the same, except post body. Inline mentions are totally unrelated to federation.> Have you updated everyone's phone clientsWhat about Friendica and Hubzilla developers? Did they update everyone’s Pleroma/Mastodon phone clients to show explicit mentions that both Friendica and Hubzilla make use of I guess since they implemented ActivityPub?
(DIR) Post #AFi4rresIABjkAWd3A by iamtakingiteasy@eientei.org
2022-01-22T20:46:07.152546Z
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@p @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta I like to think of fediverse as next iteration of email, currently it is even resembling usenet/fido groups and early maillists a lot in spirit, a shame that virtually all FEs try to emulate twitter UI.
(DIR) Post #AFi4xUNvjb0JIgHWam by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2022-01-22T20:47:08.657311Z
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@mkljczk @p @Moon @Ricotta you may be interested in thishttps://hacktivis.me/articles/Update%20on%20Pleroma%20Maintainance
(DIR) Post #AFi7fin3jkQccyFro8 by mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl
2022-01-22T21:17:28.106678Z
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I follow a few users from Hubzilla and Friendica. I have no problems related to federation with Friendica users. Federation with Hubzilla sort of works if I’m part of the thread.
(DIR) Post #AFi880jUcXluNq4mlU by kumicota@weeaboo.space
2022-01-22T21:22:37.001457Z
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@pleb @mkljczk @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @p mkljczk is one of Alex bootlickers, he will defend everything that he says, even when everyone on fedi is against him
(DIR) Post #AFi8mLScyRKcFmQ8Ce by mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl
2022-01-22T21:29:52.526634Z
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I made this change, so i’m defending myself
(DIR) Post #AFi8yZLPBHwcmss4BM by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2022-01-22T21:32:10.157138Z
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@mkljczk @kumicota @Moon @fluffy @pleb @p "I got vaxxed, so everyone else has to get vaxxed too. Don't worry about the blood clots or heart problems though."
(DIR) Post #AFi9vFsrB6L3W8V9P6 by mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl
2022-01-22T21:42:41.330206Z
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No. It’s just the way things work on Soapbox. Other frontends can use implicit mentions exclusively (though Pleroma always inserts a mention of the user you’re replying to)
(DIR) Post #AFiBpCHTrOhKVwG3we by kumicota@weeaboo.space
2022-01-22T22:04:04.926151Z
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@mkljczk @p @fluffy @Moon @Ricotta > Friendica and Hubzilla developersThis is the lamest and shittiest excuse for that.If you wanted to help Friendica and Hubzilla, you would add support for the way that they use mentions together with the way misskey, pleroma and mastodon uses and not to drop mastodon, pleroma and misskey to support Friendica and Hubzilla.I also remember that several times on the discussion about this reply change, you and alex stated that people should update to soapbox and that breaking compatibility with mastodon is a good thing and not a bad. Stop giving shit excuses for yours shit decisions
(DIR) Post #AFiCB7p9707Z3tSday by mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl
2022-01-22T22:08:00.622901Z
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>and that breaking compatibility with mastodon is a good thing and not a badit was intended to be a joke. it it was serious, I wouldn’t make MRs to Pleroma that literally fix breaking changes from mastodon
(DIR) Post #AFiCNMN2qxcxeX9Pfc by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T22:10:16.351583Z
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@fluffy @Moon @Ricotta @mkljczk > is it thoIn terms of post volume, I'd say those account for at least 90% of Soapbox, maybe higher if we're talking user count.
(DIR) Post #AFiId7a4D1mk8n8mC8 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T23:20:21.066224Z
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@mkljczk @fluffy @Moon @Ricotta > Lain implemented this in 2019There's a lot of shit in the API that hasn't been used. The fact of the matter is that it plays poorly with the deployed software. I had to patch bloat for this horseshit. Non omne quod licet honestum est.> It doesn’t affect federation.Alters the posts, affects federation.Shouting "no you're wrong YOU JUST HATE PROGRESS TECHNICALLY WE'RE ALLOWED" at people that do not like something you've done is exactly the thing that has caused the sharp dropoff in confidence. Even just backing it out and saying "Okay, this fucks with Pleroma, we're get it, but we're going to do it this way, we'll push it out by this date" would have been better. I already said that this is probably how it should work (except the truncation, that's stupid).For that matter, "It's just the development branch!" (aside from being irrelevant if it's nearly the whole install base) only matters if the change might be reversed, and the sense I'm getting from all of your "You had no excuse not to already have worked this into the UI!" and all of Alex's "I'M NOT MAKING THIS FOR FEDI I AM MAKING IT FOR NORMIES" seems to indicate the opposite.Why even bother with the existing federation if he doesn't care about alienating the the existing network? If he's got that much contempt, then why the fuck is he here? The point of being here rather than elsewhere is that there is a network here and if his goal is to ditch the existing network and just make New Twitter, he doesn't need to federate with any of us, does he? So I'd rather assume he's just bitchy that people didn't like a change he merged than that his goal is to exploit the network he didn't build in order to build his own. Fedi, like I said last time, can take some friction, but not a fracture, and it's one thing to fail to respect it but another entirely to kill it. (His BFF Snow unsuccessfully tried to get FSE kicked off its host and successfully got Neckbeard.xyz revoked by the nic.xyz, costing people time and costing @sjw money, so maybe I'm wrong to assume Alex's intentions are basically good, but I hope that it's the correct move to assume he means well.)At any rate, I'm sure as hell not rolling out Soapbox anywhere if that's how its development works. There's my feedback and you can listen to it or ignore it but no amount of shouting at me is going to alter it: it made a mess and the mess is being handled poorly. Given the number of other people that were already upset about the bug by the time I noticed it, I'd say it's a pretty unpopular maneuver.> What about Friendica and Hubzilla developers?What about them? Their software always worked that way; they didn't break something that had previously worked. They're also a very small part of the network; there are more WordPress servers on fedi than Friendica. By user count, Friendica's about a tenth the size of Pixelfed.
(DIR) Post #AFiIiSbxRgyKoVZSb2 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-22T23:21:18.966251Z
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@iamtakingiteasy @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy Poast is running a FidoNet-compatible telnet BBS, actually. Pretty cool.
(DIR) Post #AFiJbzKzTIAcEv71eq by colonelj@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-22T23:31:20.672578Z
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@Moon @p @fluffy @Ricotta god bless kaniini
(DIR) Post #AFiKA5yRIvpMfRpNdw by coyote@enitor.xyz
2022-01-22T23:37:30.142714Z
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@kumicota @p @pleb @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta he’s on the payroll of the big manbaby himself, and they don’t care about all the damage they caused… Federation issues… Three people left Pleroma… Two new Pleroma forks… These fucking clowns can’t even admit there was a problem
(DIR) Post #AFiKKse1Ce06VqQ1C4 by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2022-01-22T23:39:26.205646Z
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@coyote @kumicota @Moon @Ricotta @mkljczk @p @pleb if this gets us groups and emoji reacts i don't care even a little bit
(DIR) Post #AFiKZt2e0aHy5X5oh6 by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2022-01-22T23:42:10.177468Z
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@fluffy @coyote @Moon @kumicota @mkljczk @p @pleb Groups are never going to happen.
(DIR) Post #AFiKbZNU5akngHdvcG by coyote@enitor.xyz
2022-01-22T23:42:28.179970Z
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@fluffy @p @pleb @mkljczk @Moon @kumicota @Ricotta this basically means no more pleroma, there will now be two, if you don’t see the fracture that causes idk what to tell youGroups won’t be coming
(DIR) Post #AFiKi3Ck6h1TvNi1gW by colonelj@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-22T23:43:38.606816Z
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@p @Moon @fluffy @yes @Ricotta P is brapposting
(DIR) Post #AFiKkju4KCJWvpFyGO by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2022-01-22T23:44:07.719121Z
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@coyote @fluffy @Moon @kumicota @mkljczk @p @pleb It's gonna be more than two, because anything involving that gay rabbit is going to fracture like a support column in a brand new Chinese highrise.
(DIR) Post #AFiLH9jFqDyEILeiSu by kumicota@weeaboo.space
2022-01-22T23:49:55.748027Z
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@coyote @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @mkljczk @p @pleb The thing is, I only know the lanodan fork, his fork will have him, bunny, hj and floatinghost a bit, which are 4 people that can mantain and create a good fork, so it's a fork that can cause trouble for them and they said in a few random posts that group isn't something technically hard and that is the thing that can make their fork to be widely use. So I imagine that it will be what they will focus on the beginning
(DIR) Post #AFiLmwp5MQlhXCXhhI by coyote@enitor.xyz
2022-01-22T23:55:43.632857Z
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@kumicota @p @pleb @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta alex runs his own fork
(DIR) Post #AFiLyQrrzk3Nu1Jyt6 by kumicota@weeaboo.space
2022-01-22T23:57:45.671308Z
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@coyote @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @mkljczk @p @pleb He did ran until he began to upstream things that only affects soapbox on the main pleroma forkThe best example is this merger, which only soapbox uses https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma/-/merge_requests/3576
(DIR) Post #AFiQ3ekyBTCQF4q9q4 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T00:43:34.914598Z
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@kumicota @pleb @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @mkljczk Well, author of the patch, so he has some reason to talk about it, but not to get his ego involved.It's not even a bad patch, it's just dumped on the network and it breaks shit that used to work and then "What the hell is this?" is met with this kind of response.
(DIR) Post #AFiR1C8fiGHorRJhiq by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T00:54:20.519802Z
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@mkljczk @kumicota @Ricotta @Moon @fluffy @pleb Alex's response is worse than your patch, and your patch isn't even that bad if it had been introduced in a better way, and you cannot attach your ego to a design if you expect to produce anything good.You probably ought to get someone to act as release manager (graf would be excellent for this: he's got a lot of people using Soapbox and has his finger on the pulse, he's got some rapport with Alex), or at least do some release planning within the team. In fact, since Soapbox doesn't mind living on a subdomain, dev.poa.st might be a better place for the dev branch. That's all constructive, but instead of listening, Alex decided to call everyone a retard. I'm not even writing frontend code but people on FSE tell me about problems, I ask what they think should happen, then I tell them what the options are and which of the options I'm willing to do.
(DIR) Post #AFiR9Z7CAiUCR9cLya by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T00:55:51.288514Z
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@mkljczk @Ricotta @Moon @kumicota @fluffy @pleb > It’s just the way things work on Soapbox.If it changes how posts show up elsewhere, it is not "just the way things work on Soapbox".
(DIR) Post #AFiRMJY7M9QRvQI0cS by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T00:58:09.535303Z
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@kumicota @mkljczk @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy > you and alex stated that people should update to soapbox and that breaking compatibility with mastodon is a good thing and not a bad.Yeah, that part irks me. Alex trash-talked Pleroma and the dev team and announced that everything he didn't write is deprecated.
(DIR) Post #AFiT7nlyu3pHE6yvdg by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T01:17:56.768736Z
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@colonelj @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @yes I think this is more like a caution about the dangers.
(DIR) Post #AFiTH0rjashqRJ45Ng by yes@social.handholding.io
2022-01-23T01:19:36.239656Z
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@p @colonelj @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy veganism: not even once
(DIR) Post #AFiUNL77KBy4vgqBSi by kumicota@weeaboo.space
2022-01-23T01:31:53.910003Z
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@p @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @mkljczk> Alex trash-talked Pleroma and the devI think this is what angered me the most, Alex got really mad that no one give him enough respect and just trash talked about the community.But after lanodan announced that he left pleroma, he was the first one to trash talk about him and still is doing public on his profile
(DIR) Post #AFiUsKpAS1d30bDzKC by wikifarms@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-23T01:37:33.169520Z
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@bot @mkljczk @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @p they get seldom laid, and they are not chaste, they are developing a special attraction to their hand :-/
(DIR) Post #AFidQlIJLFE6aDmcTI by shitpisscum@shitpisscum.mooo.com
2022-01-23T03:13:21.495939Z
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@mkljczk @p @pleb @Moon @fluffy @kumicota @Ricotta I have no idea who or what you're replying to.What happenedEven though I can see which thread you're replying in the reply you posted has no mentions so I have no way to know who or what exactly you're replying to.Why does this happenThe instance you're on uses Soapbox FE which recently added a "featue" or not adding mentions to replies, making it pretty hard if not impossible to follow threads on most other frontends. Soapbox FE devs still refuse to provide any reason for introducing this "feature" other than something along the lines of literally everything else is obsolete, fuck youWhat can I do about thisIf you're an instance adminRoll back to older version of Soapbox FE or use literally any other frontendIf you're just a userHarass your instance admin to fix this by following the advice from the previous paragraph. In the meantime use alternative frontend like Bloat or Sengi if your instance provides one (if not harass your admin to at least add one of those if they don't want to abandon Soapbox FE)If you're one of the many users affected by this "feature"Spam this whenever you see a reply without mentions. Spread the awareness
(DIR) Post #AFivK7SOLFA8T1TrF2 by seanking@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T06:33:54.767892Z
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@kumicota @p @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @mkljczk I sometimes wonder if Gleason's talking shit about me behind my back because I left Soapbox and eventually Pleroma. Either way, he's been quite a stubborn jackass lately and I don't appreciate it, especially with what's supposed to be a collaborative, discussion-based project.
(DIR) Post #AFivalwBbUBweHMDxY by seanking@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T06:36:55.346172Z
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@p @kumicota @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @mkljczk It's like one of those things that seemed fine at the time, but then you realize it's pretty cringe later on. Hell, now looking back at it and Alex's recent actions, it feels like the same ol' rhetoric Gab had that eventually led to them leaving the fediverse except echoed by a vegan and not a Puritan.
(DIR) Post #AFixc9GqXKIZDHnypE by seanking@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T06:59:34.871453Z
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@kumicota @mkljczk @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @p > breaking compatibility with Mastodon is a good thingDoes Alex even remember how Gab thought it was good to "punish Mastodon" by breaking compatibility with it? He is literally echoing the same crap that irritated him about Gab's fediverse mentality. He's become the villain he sought to be better than.
(DIR) Post #AFiyN6UegE0eD5ebzs by mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl
2022-01-23T07:08:00.214469Z
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it it was serious, I wouldn’t make MRs to Pleroma that literally fix breaking changes from mastodon or Alex would reject them
(DIR) Post #AFiyT1UKCcoIQLK1w0 by alex@gleasonator.com
2022-01-23T07:09:05.731853Z
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ITT: A bunch of people mad for no reason.This is the Fediverse. People have freedom. Just like you don’t have the freedom to not be offended, you don’t have the freedom to force other software to send messages the way you want.This is about control. People want it, and they think I’m taking it from them. I think it’s pathetic. Take a look at this: https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma/-/merge_requests/3609 Turns out control was in your hands all along. Now imagine if people actually behaved as if they had freedom. Someone would have created this on day 1 instead of bitching about it for 2 weeks until Rinpatch made it.This whole thing is ridiculous, as if it’s the worst problem in the world. People are losing it over the cold weather and the pandemic, and taking it out on me because I made a small UI change that inconvenienced them.The Fediverse is the solution to big tech, but it’s going to have to evolve if we expect it to have a chance.
(DIR) Post #AFizdDOOtfdGC8yV7o by inorez@bae.st
2022-01-23T07:22:10.677887Z
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@alex @p @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta Fuck yourself, shithead :giga_chad:
(DIR) Post #AFj07hlSXV594yIbSq by shebang@freespeech.group
2022-01-23T07:27:40.194067Z
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@alex @p @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta whut this is why people are upsetI'm just annoyed that the latest update made my little script that resized emoji stop workingalso I should probably update soapbox or something soon
(DIR) Post #AFj0G2NZmIAbKc6KW0 by 11112011@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T07:29:12.010161Z
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@alex @p @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @Ricotta i have the dreedoom to say ur a faggot
(DIR) Post #AFj2NLv3j7C1rxNWSW by iamtakingiteasy@eientei.org
2022-01-23T07:52:54.297817Z
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@alex @p @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta Suggesting every server to use MRF to correct issue generated by one misbehaving client because it's author is too high on own farts isn't really a way for said author to justify that misbehaving after weeks of refusing to acknowledge issues produced and only indicates degree of farts intoxication. It is not a UI change, if it affects how federated post body is generated.
(DIR) Post #AFj2bRveBEykYsNKiW by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T07:55:28.799794Z
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@seanking @kumicota @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @mkljczk Even Mastodon makes some effort to coordinate changes like this.
(DIR) Post #AFj53rRF85gPh8pUJc by mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl
2022-01-23T08:22:56.383683Z
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>generated by one misbehaving clientas I mentioned, there are AP implementations doing the same for years. @hj mentioned that Hubzilla is the reason Pleroma-fe shows explicit mentions list now
(DIR) Post #AFj5CiThoSrKVlChsG by hj@shigusegubu.club
2022-01-23T08:24:34.814338Z
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@mkljczk @iamtakingiteasy @p @alex @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta that doesn't give one an excuse to be an asshole to everybody by changing how things work in existing software.
(DIR) Post #AFj5yXc3VsI0iGuk2C by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T08:33:16.096549Z
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@alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @Ricotta > Just like you don’t have the freedom to not be offended, you don’t have the freedom to force other software to send messages the way you want.I am taking issue with, specifically, your response to feedback on this patch. (You are the one that complained about the lack of professionalism around here, as I recall.) I made the remark that it sucked, you hopped into the thread to yell. I don't plan to force you to do anything. As I said before, you have my feedback and you can listen to it or ignore it but I don't care if you dislike the feedback and I think only an idiot would push breaking changes out after trash-talking the software and the dev team.If I can quote myself again, from this same goddamn thread, "You probably ought to get someone to act as release manager (graf would be excellent for this: he's got a lot of people using Soapbox and has his finger on the pulse, he's got some rapport with Alex), or at least do some release planning within the team. In fact, since Soapbox doesn't mind living on a subdomain, dev.poa.st might be a better place for the dev branch. That's all constructive, but instead of listening, Alex decided to call everyone a retard."Again, I also said, as I said in the first thread where you blew up at me, that it's probably how things should have worked from the beginning (scroll a few years, you'll see me saying the same thing) but that introducing the change out of nowhere and then throwing a fit that people complain when it works poorly with the existing, deployed software. It's a network; conduct yourself accordingly.Now you can take that feedback or not. I don't care. Except to the extent Soapbox affects me (almost none), I have no reason to care.> This is about control.Maybe it is for you; I don't give a damn who's running what. I said I didn't like the change when I noticed it, and you blew up in that thread like you'd seen plenty of complaints already. I don't like how you're handling it, you're acting like a lunatic, but it it's not like I'm going to stop you; I haven't even tried. I said I'd support the fork that prioritizes respect for the network, because that's exactly what I'll do.So please, do tell me what I'm trying to control. I patched bloat to compensate for the breakage, I said you're acting like a lunatic, I didn't even bother to complain to you or the dev team. If I thought anyone was trying to control the network, I'd say it's the person who rolls shit out like this with no notice, surrounds himself with people that do attempt to control fedi (tell Snow I said to go fuck himself), and throws a fit that people have the gall to say they don't like a patch. It makes you a clown. Wake up.> The Fediverse is the solution to big tech, but it’s going to have to evolve if we expect it to have a chance."THIS IS PROGRESS HOW DARE YOU" See attached. (I hate to quote myself this much, but you've got some sort of habit of responding to shit other people wrote in a reply to me. I don't know why, but maybe you should read what I wrote before ascribing shit other people wrote to me; it's careless at best and duplicitous at worst.)fractured_network.png
(DIR) Post #AFj69GupvtRa75od8K by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T08:35:12.455030Z
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@shebang @alex @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @mkljczk > whut this is why people are upsetPeople are mainly upset that Alex has announced that fedi is retarded because this patch is unpopular.He wants to talk about the patch because his conduct around the patch is a little harder to defend. I don't have any investment in this; I patched bloat already.
(DIR) Post #AFj6GjYrpLycz267fc by iamtakingiteasy@eientei.org
2022-01-23T08:36:31.607534Z
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@hj @p @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta The real issue is not so much the change itself, as it is open refusal to acknowledge and minimize issues it generates. The correct way of handling this change was to revert it / put behind feature flag until compatibility options are universally available. The conduct of alex, especially coupled with his tendency to just merge whatever without considering criticism is pretty much alienating other developers from the projects he involved in and causes considerable harm to fediverse at large.
(DIR) Post #AFj6PcAofH8Ig05CBE by shebang@freespeech.group
2022-01-23T08:38:07.804955Z
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@p @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta I just have a lot of difficulty mounting any enthusiasm about any of this. It feels way more like drama than anything.Alex is a salad bowl of crappy opinions, this isn't even in the top 10 for crappy Alex opinions and if I'm being honest, I lack the relevant technical skills to mount an argument either way. I'm way more pissed that my emoji are back to being tiny :blobrage:
(DIR) Post #AFj6fhRGr7h9dkRukK by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2022-01-23T08:41:03.693621Z
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@p @alex @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @mkljczk how i see alex needs to quit being a little bitch when he gets criticized and go back coding but oh wait the people who use pleroma are retards and should go fuck off i thought?
(DIR) Post #AFj6zBniC9PzJAEtRA by hj@shigusegubu.club
2022-01-23T08:44:32.365672Z
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@iamtakingiteasy @p @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta i mean, it was handled poorly already with refusal to revert and amend, but then he goes and calls people retarded, says "fuck you", has a power trip, spreads misinformation himself.Not even adding oil to the fire, more like dropping an atom bomb on chernobyl catastrophe.
(DIR) Post #AFj75L24miI9g2tFDs by RobinWils@whinge.town
2022-01-23T08:45:41.076598Z
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@alex @p @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta "The solution to big tech". It has a very long way to go.... It is currently no better than the alternative closed source websites in my opinion. I started writing an article about why, and I don't think all it's problems can be fixed. I shall link it, and will likely leave this platform once it is finished. You could see it as feedback. Fedi isn't terrible at what it does, but it isn't great either. As for that people should accept change. I would say in general yes, but not all changes are good. Usually change is good, but people tend to hate it at first.
(DIR) Post #AFj7G6iKMRPOSEmuBM by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T08:47:38.878113Z
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@shebang @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk > It feels way more like drama than anything.Yes. I think the guy's handling negative feedback poorly. Apparently he touched a nerve with a lot of people. This sums it up briefly and lanodan's always sensible: https://hacktivis.me/articles/Update%20on%20Pleroma%20Maintainance> I'm way more pissed that my emoji are back to being tinyI don't use Soapbox. (When testing something out on Poast, I actually just use the MastoFE.) Since I live on FSE, my emchichos are the size I set in the CSS for bloat. :bigbosspw:
(DIR) Post #AFj7lJE5tFy4EoWaCe by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T08:53:17.215826Z
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@1iceloops123 @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk It's happooning again.:dalecooper: The gum that you like is going to come back in style.:kaz: Every night, I can feel them. The mentalities...won't stop expiring.:kazrevenge: You feel it too, don't you?:kazlikeadamnfiddle: I'M GONNA MAKE THEM GIVE BACK OUR POSTSkc-rFa093Mu3kA.png
(DIR) Post #AFj8YkRtSxAwrBYNk0 by shebang@freespeech.group
2022-01-23T09:02:11.868346Z
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@p @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta I just want stable software with features that I like and find useful. You know?Like I find reasons to really dislike all the fedi software. Mastodon is bloated and makes design decisions based on utter nonsense, you need to patch the shit out of it to just make it usable. Pleroma has basically become stagnant, and now embroiled in personal politics. Misskey is often bizarre and incompatible. Eh well. Sometimes you just gotta watch and see what ends up happening.
(DIR) Post #AFj9UJxW746nUmnX28 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T09:12:37.610184Z
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@shebang @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk I don't think that's the case for Pleroma; I do think Alex has a reason to claim that, but I also don't care and would rather hack than repeat myself.
(DIR) Post #AFjLwn86Rul7Wd5kFU by RobinWils@whinge.town
2022-01-23T11:32:12.963513Z
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@alex @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @mkljczk @p The article is up.I didn't mention the downtime for database migrations, since I don't consider it the biggest most important problem, but it would be neat if you could do that without bringing everything down. A tiny bit of downtime means a lot of profit loss for big social media. Fedi is no different if it wants to compete, except for the profit. Users don't like downtime. https://www.robinwils.com/categories/technology/why-the-fediverse-sucks/
(DIR) Post #AFjNcMTk1kJUz9bBw0 by mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl
2022-01-23T11:50:53.753001Z
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>I haven’t seen any UI which groups similar notifications. It might even be impossible to add to the protocol (ActivityPub) which these platforms use. It has nothing to do with the protocol (maybe with the AP C2S stuff nobody uses) or federation. I could create a simple implementation of notification grouping in like 10 minutes but I’m not sure how it would affect performance. Some developer more familiar with Ecto and SQL might come up with something better.
(DIR) Post #AFjSeIClO6Dq52OiXI by duponin@udongein.xyz
2022-01-23T12:47:16.752904Z
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@p @apropos @thatfightnerd @verita84 @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta > you cannot have multiple instances of the same Pleromaare you sure about that?Elixir has native cluster features and unless something was broken by design there should no race condition or anything preventing a clusterif you have more information and the need for cluster hmu
(DIR) Post #AFjWLbmSmTGt6lRTUm by RobinWils@whinge.town
2022-01-23T13:28:45.021923Z
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@mkljczk @p @alex @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta That surprises me, because there surely must be users which have that many notifications. I would expect a complaint of one of them.It seems like a must have feature to me if the platform wants to grow, but yeah, if it brings problems with Federation, then that is an issue too. Not sure how anyone will fix those Federation issues, seems impossible without some kind of standard. It is possible that people don't want it to grow, but not wanting a good user experience is like saying I don't want my users to have a good experience.
(DIR) Post #AFjZY20fO4GXnGhWa0 by throwaway1@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T14:04:37.677562Z
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@RobinWils @alex @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @mkljczk @p I just got here, and let me tell you from an outsider's perspective: the fact that federation works at all feels like magic, that I can just reply to somebody from another server and everything just worksthis is very special, and that potential alone makes it "better than the alternative closed source websites"
(DIR) Post #AFjZuSbxAG0OfQpvg8 by RobinWils@whinge.town
2022-01-23T14:08:40.101064Z
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@throwaway1 @p @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta The post mentions that I think that's cool yeah, but that alone won't make it better than alternatives. One killer feature does not make a website suddenly the best. It needs a tiny bit more. It surely helps, but it is not that you see much of the video/image platforms here. The Twitter alternative ones are the most popular, plus each of those platforms require a new account.
(DIR) Post #AFjesSnE17WyQGyZRA by alex@gleasonator.com
2022-01-23T15:04:18.367964Z
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I said “2 dozen people are retarded” and it got spun until “Alex said ALL of fedi is retarded.” Anyone who took personal offense to that is basically calling themselves retarded.Also if you think that article in sensible… Lol. You don’t really know the story.
(DIR) Post #AFjfHMSMiGGM0h5iHg by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-23T15:08:50Z
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@Moon @p "He merged a "controversial" change without asking anyone"not to be... like.. rude... honest question...so fork it?
(DIR) Post #AFjfMPtpL7D08VLZ2m by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-23T15:09:45Z
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@Moon @p It kinda sounds like it's been resolved by that, what am I missing?
(DIR) Post #AFjfTFBVZjguvps9pY by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-23T15:10:59Z
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@Moon @p Does it have a name, what's the differences, because I wanna know what options are out there, sounds like something to learn about....
(DIR) Post #AFjfcrPcob7G6D3qa0 by Moon@shitposter.club
2022-01-23T15:09:18.080174Z
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@Coyote @p I was mistaken. Anyway people are planning at least one fork
(DIR) Post #AFjfe6gzUPl7mMmIq0 by Moon@shitposter.club
2022-01-23T15:11:12.433956Z
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@Coyote arguably the official project has imploded and forks are always questionable if they'll endure
(DIR) Post #AFjfeaKLJBT5goPdhY by Moon@shitposter.club
2022-01-23T15:11:34.383716Z
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@Coyote @p no, there is a discussion today regarding the new fork and presumably what the name will be.
(DIR) Post #AFjfkQ2STQFxWApT5E by Coyote@noagendasocial.com
2022-01-23T15:14:05Z
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@Moon Ok, cool, I'm going to eat breakfast, as that I contribute nothing to this anyway... :-)
(DIR) Post #AFjfovcazVwKd2sle4 by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-01-23T15:14:52.765287Z
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>He wants to talk about the patch because his conduct around the patch is a little harder to defend. I don’t have any investment in this; I patched bloat already.What terrible conduct is this guy guilty of again? Being flippant to fedi spergs?
(DIR) Post #AFjfxGbOrxAy13Ic3k by Moon@shitposter.club
2022-01-23T15:15:29.498736Z
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@Coyote enjoy!
(DIR) Post #AFjgmUji4wwkcXc5x2 by parisc@shitposter.club
2022-01-23T15:25:40.277746Z
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@apropos@fluffy @RicottaAlex has never learned from the tale of other devs who fucked themselves in the ass by ignoring their users.
(DIR) Post #AFjh556ZbDjWd3AcWe by juan@pleroma.rojogato.com
2022-01-23T15:29:01.541332Z
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@alex @shebang @p @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta I'm going to perform a pro gamer move by only upgrading to stable releases ftw.
(DIR) Post #AFjhXOLpdVjGQao5Sq by parisc@shitposter.club
2022-01-23T15:34:08.925267Z
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@alex@p @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @RicottaHey Alex I think you dropped these buddy, here you go.
(DIR) Post #AFjlfwJJewmdstxfqi by throwaway1@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T16:20:31.045197Z
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@RobinWils @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @p your blog post seems to be talking about how this still-young technology falls short of the standards to which we should hold it when it is mature; I don't think anyone is arguing that it's mature yet
(DIR) Post #AFjnSiRy54Y92apYqu by RobinWils@whinge.town
2022-01-23T16:40:31.419056Z
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@throwaway1 @p @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta It was made like five years ago. Twitter only has like ten years more on the counter unless I am missing something. Yes, ten years is a lot, but some basics aren't here yet, and good luck with explaining how instances work to someone new.It can become more mature, but some groundwork has been done, which can be hard to change. It is not impossible, but I don't consider this technology that young. Although I wouldn't call it mature either. It is impressive that it exists though.
(DIR) Post #AFjnaNk8x6KD8VzHd2 by throwaway1@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T16:41:55.382510Z
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@RobinWils @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @p a flat metric like years-since-inauguration won't support the nuance your argument is trying to use
(DIR) Post #AFjnjrComT2z7QuyJs by RobinWils@whinge.town
2022-01-23T16:43:37.278476Z
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@throwaway1 @p @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta Users tend to seek a platform with features. The years do not matter as much as the features which currently exist, and how good they work.
(DIR) Post #AFjnsGrFI5xEzgq7AO by throwaway1@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T16:45:09.364637Z
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@RobinWils @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @p users are not homogenousfederation is a feature
(DIR) Post #AFjoqrCNJ0bb4tc1Z2 by RobinWils@whinge.town
2022-01-23T16:56:05.814207Z
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@throwaway1 @p @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta Which only works half, because of the block culture, and the different UIs which break it, so yeah, great feature. There is no standard, as far as I am aware, so adding a new feature can break everything on other instances.It is a good idea, but it still has issues. Not the speak of the security problems it had, maybe still has. That anyone could setup a server and see private messages. I wouldn't count on security within this project from what I heard about it. It has likely improved though.So yes, immature in some ways, but yet impressive that people could create it. Closed source commercial software would set a standard. If some alternative closed source similar decentralised platform comes up, it might kill the Fediverse, since it would likely set a standard.No standard for what should be supported by the protocol makes it easier for miscommunication to happen. A standard can be open, and people can update it, but as far I know there is none. Anyone can do what they want and break everything.Aside from Federation, which other things does this offer that other platforms don't have? Federation isn't enough for most people to join this platform, especially with the other existing problems.
(DIR) Post #AFjou7XyyjukePH8Hw by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2022-01-23T16:56:40.612506Z
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@throwaway1 @RobinWils @Moon @Ricotta @alex @mkljczk @p it was you who chose the metric of years by arguing that it is, to use your notation, "still-young". if this means something different feel free to issue a clarification, but be aware that it is largely the responsibility of the writer, in this case you, to use notation which is capable of communicating, instead of one which makes sense to themselves internally, and if you did not mean to suggest years neither to me nor to @RobinWils then you have failed at this.more broadly, it is unclear what you are arguing for here. certainly nobody disputes that the software is nice, especially the part where it actually works. this said, there are many features which have for years been unimplemented, or partially implemented, or poorly implemented. all of these could have been competently developed in a matter of months by a small team of ten and I would include in that marketing, design, ux, which have been neglected.one could argue perhaps that it is no issue that some features are not implemented so long as core functionality remains. this is not necessarily incorrect, but software does not exist in a vaccuum, and software developed for social interactions must needs bring into consideration social needs. by all appearances, these needs are becoming more sophisticated at a rate much higher than the rate at which the software is becoming the more powerful. it risks suffering the same fate as many toy academic projects
(DIR) Post #AFjp31rvSZr7e6qr0i by throwaway1@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T16:58:18.321003Z
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@RobinWils @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @p do you not count ActivityPub as a standard?
(DIR) Post #AFjp8bIn9BL4zL4gHg by throwaway1@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T16:59:18.736597Z
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@fluffy @Moon @Ricotta @RobinWils @alex @mkljczk @p I thought the contrast between "young" and "mature" would be clear enough for people with software development experience
(DIR) Post #AFjpFDh5JuNznPas4W by RobinWils@whinge.town
2022-01-23T17:00:29.802594Z
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@throwaway1 @p @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta It is a protocol, not a standard, as far as I am aware. People can easily implemented it differently and do not know which request or whatever it should respond to.See the previous controversial pull-requests. If it is a standard, it isn't a very good one, because people can't extend it without breaking stuff, it seems.
(DIR) Post #AFjpOdfA8ZqowZBa9g by throwaway1@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T17:02:12.647334Z
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@RobinWils @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @p fair
(DIR) Post #AFjpRNV6gUongbmx5E by RobinWils@whinge.town
2022-01-23T17:02:41.610033Z
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@throwaway1 @p @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta Young and mature are two words with different meaning, but it was a miscommunication. Let's just ignore that miscommunication, since I don't think it is relevant anymore after previous posts.
(DIR) Post #AFk4HTpPnonXjA1fhw by CumskinFoidPuncher69420@beefyboys.club
2022-01-23T19:48:58.991908Z
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@alex @p @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta You may be a TERF cuck but I respect this post a lot.
(DIR) Post #AFk4LDToWlMyBLhhFQ by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2022-01-23T19:49:39.733148Z
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@Moon @p @Ricotta @apropos @fluffy @verita84 yeah I believe this is why we have issues with Minecraft and other things. We live in an era where processors are 4-128 cores and we still can't use them yet
(DIR) Post #AFk4UmBYrW7SQSizcu by alex@gleasonator.com
2022-01-23T19:51:20.044885Z
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I’m vegan btw
(DIR) Post #AFk4keNdeKSIqrwX44 by CumskinFoidPuncher69420@beefyboys.club
2022-01-23T19:54:15.249361Z
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@alex @p @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta me rn
(DIR) Post #AFk610SZQSwHuxc4DA by kumicota@weeaboo.space
2022-01-23T20:08:21.331175Z
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@p @mkljczk @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @sjw > His BFF Snow unsuccessfully tried to get FSE kicked off its host and successfully got Neckbeard.xyz revoked by the nic.xyz, costing people time and costing @sjw moneyIs snow and alex friends?
(DIR) Post #AFk7Ox1Xx4imAKxERM by travis@pleroma.xmanifesto.club
2022-01-23T20:23:56.674446Z
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@p @shebang @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta my first instincts 2-0 IM WINNING BABY
(DIR) Post #AFk8NfZjRKZLiLtgIa by xue@shitposter.club
2022-01-23T20:34:55.603812Z
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@alex @CumskinFoidPuncher69420 @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @p @Ricotta btw can vegans eat sealife?
(DIR) Post #AFk8jT9aIuzLYm3tFQ by Xenidae@shitposter.club
2022-01-23T20:38:51.888306Z
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@lanodan @p @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @yes Soy is always poison and you are a idiot for using any of it anywhere.
(DIR) Post #AFkBFDcrlrpyZo1cTg by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2022-01-23T21:07:00.178630Z
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@alex @CumskinFoidPuncher69420 @mkljczk @Moon @p @Ricotta @makeitquote
(DIR) Post #AFkN1L6bS5o5Sy2faq by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T23:18:58.240043Z
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@mkljczk @RobinWils @alex @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy Wouldn't be hard. The issue is the notifications table is large and frequently requested, but it's moving that way with the type filtering.The best way to do it would probably be to tack on a count and then index by (user_id, updated_at), then when the type is one of the trivially groupable ones (announce/like), do an upsert with that type and count=0, then increment the type and reset updated_at. The exact list of who liked what can be pulled from the object, which already comes back with the notification. That'd have to be a new endpoint, but it would drastically cut down on the size of the notifications table. (In FSE's case, it looks like 35% of the table.) It'd have to be a new endpoint if it's going to return different data.Grouping them just with frontend code should be relatively simple but will miss some.
(DIR) Post #AFkNIQ7y298ZxrpDFI by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-23T23:22:03.462235Z
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@duponin @Moon @Ricotta @apropos @fluffy @thatfightnerd @verita84 > are you sure about that?I'm going by the fact that rin is working on making it work. I don't know why it should be the case.
(DIR) Post #AFkNNgi3oDiCqDDdlQ by Moon@shitposter.club
2022-01-23T23:22:59.923295Z
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@p @duponin @Ricotta @apropos @fluffy @thatfightnerd @verita84 rin quit btw
(DIR) Post #AFkNeRBilsCPcn4z6e by duponin@udongein.xyz
2022-01-23T23:25:43.283488Z
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@Moon @apropos @p @thatfightnerd @verita84 @fluffy @Ricotta yeah, Rin leftI heard from Feld long ago that Pleroma scales logarithmically with users number
(DIR) Post #AFkSDWqg7IST8IE18S by Prude@beefyboys.club
2022-01-24T00:17:11.272288Z
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@p @shebang @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta Lmao, that linked Hacktivis bit was informative, I didn’t really know what the drama was about prior. However, while I was totally alright with shitting on Alex going into it too, the whining in there about MUH TRANNY FEELS and the bit that “calling people retarded is more unacceptable than being a deranged leftist” actually made me more willing to say Alex is in the right here by merit of the critics being such faggots.
(DIR) Post #AFkSorVSH60vur6FxQ by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T00:23:56.733006Z
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@RobinWils @mkljczk @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy > there surely must be users which have that many notificationsYes; see attached. That's my notifications by day. (They've gone back down, thankfully.)> It is possible that people don't want it to grow, but not wanting a good user experience is like saying I don't want my users to have a good experience.There's experience for the people that are here and like the platform, and for new people. There is no way to make an objectively good experience, but it's definitely possible to make an objectively bad experience. (I love bloat, many people do not.) That is, it's hard to deliver something that everyone wants, but easy to deliver something no one wants: negatives are easier to predict.Making fedi grow has two facets: shaping the network so that it appeals to more people without ruining its appeal for the people that are already here. Twitter's doing half the work of growing fedi, but network effect is more important than user experience. Have you seen how easy it is to create an account here versus creating a new Twitter account? Twitter's experience when making a new account is terrible: they try to funnel you through 30 things, they demand a phone number and an email address and a list of your interests from the advertiser-approved set. They can afford to do that because they know you want a Twitter account. Fedi puts the posts where you can see them, which is what Twitter was doing in 2007 when I signed up. Twitter is a distinctive *thing*, but fedi has to give you an idea of what it is and a reason to use it. What works for Twitter does not work here (although what worked for Twitter in 2007 might; that's the other screenshot, from https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.twitter.com/ ). This is something Gab doesn't (and apparently can't) understand: the optimal strategy when you are small is different from the optimal strategy when you are large.Now, you also can't coordinate 7500 independently managed websites. Fedi is running, for the most part, on the network effect. Twitter is doing half of fedi's job for it by banning prominent people. @graf set up poa.st for that reason: people were getting banned. I set up FSE in part because of Twitter's censorship. Fedi needs more servers (until a workable P2P system starts federating :elliotsmile:), so the people you want to pull in are people interested in running servers and hosting other people; they also need a reason to be here, so the other groups to pull in are people that are posting things that other people want to see: someone's friends come over, and they'll come over, some e-celeb comes over and that person's people will come over, porn and video games and interesting discussions, those are things people want to see. poa.st requires a lot of engineering work to stay afloat; even FSE does and we don't deal with poa.st's user volume (FSE has its own constraints). People arrive at FSE and can see what sort of place it is from the domain; people show up at Poast and it has a tagline that explains exactly what's going on there and who it's for, and it comes recommended by people that are posting things that the people on Poast want to see."Nicer UX" is a concern, but whose UX do you optimize? If you want to grow, you want to be friendly to people running servers, groups of friends, and people that post things other people want to see. So in my estimation, Alex is pulling the ripcord too soon: a really nice UX for what? If people don't give a shit what's here, why would they care how easy it is to use? What he's doing doesn't hurt...as long as it doesn't piss off people that are running servers or popular accounts.For my own part, I care about killing Twitter only because the San Francisco Data Cartel has a stranglehold on the internet, but I don't care about vanity metrics. So Alex has put MAU metrics into his software, and I just count the people that were on FSE that now run their own servers, because that's what I care about, and as long as he doesn't fuck up the network, both strategies can coexist just fine. (Blowing up over a badly introduced patch and spawning forks, those both fuck up the network.)notifs30days.pngtwitter_front_page.png
(DIR) Post #AFkTM0Qu6gQ19pm8fY by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T00:29:56.149635Z
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@alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @Ricotta @shebang Vagaries.> Anyone who took personal offense to that is basically calling themselves retarded.Okay, which two dozen people?> Also if you think that article in sensible… Lol. You don’t really know the story.Pray tell.
(DIR) Post #AFkTZgl63IRCC1kEsK by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T00:32:24.518636Z
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@NEETzsche @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @Ricotta @shebang > be me> receive notification> update counter on sign"We have gone 0 days without NEETzsche showing up in a a thread he didn't read to ask questions that were answered in the thread."
(DIR) Post #AFkUMBtZacvOf5py40 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T00:41:10.454992Z
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@RobinWils @throwaway1 @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk > The years do not matter as much as the features which currently exist, and how good they work.Features don't matter. "Content is king." if that's the route you want to go.
(DIR) Post #AFkUfUQCvvfhceIuye by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T00:44:39.723180Z
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@RobinWils @throwaway1 @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk > No standard for what should be supported by the protocol makes it easier for miscommunication to happen.There is a standard for ActivityPub.> which other things does this offer that other platforms don't have?My friends are here, and I can read what they post.
(DIR) Post #AFkUo6CANNjX5jqFEG by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T00:46:13.078837Z
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@RobinWils @throwaway1 @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk > It is a protocol, not a standard, as far as I am aware. People can easily implemented it differently and do not know which request or whatever it should respond to.It is a specification for the protocol; that is a standard. People can easily implement anything whether or not there's a standard.
(DIR) Post #AFkV0tKlVOnYy2xoEC by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-01-24T00:48:30.096575Z
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Sneed
(DIR) Post #AFkWN60PAnjsaoalqi by parisc@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T01:03:44.648068Z
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@p @RobinWils @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @graf @mkljczk ""Nicer UX" is a concern, but whose UX do you optimize? If you want to grow, you want to be friendly to people running servers, groups of friends, and people that post things other people want to see. So in my estimation, Alex is pulling the ripcord too soon: a really nice UX for what? If people don't give a shit what's here, why would they care how easy it is to use? What he's doing doesn't hurt...as long as it doesn't piss off people that are running servers or popular accounts."It's probably half a surface level understanding of why people leave the fedi, and half based on complaints with normies. There are some extremely vocal and picky normies out there who will sperg the fuck out if something isn't polished enough or fit their arbitrary idea of polished. Hence, the whole obsession Linux desktops had with chasing Windows and trying to copy it just enough to not get sued as opposed to doing it's own thing. The other complaint that people have is about UI design being confusing and shitty, and this is a common complaint used by concern trolls, normies, and people running into user interfaces that do suck ass (Second Life and a lot of modern MMOs for example).Soapbox and Alexes mindset from what I can tell seems to be to copy Twitter and make the Fedi twitter (this isn't the only frontend to do this, Mastodon's frontend is the same). The thing is there are a lot of people using the fedi because they do not want Twitter. If they wanted Twitter, they'd use Twitter. There are also people using the fedi because they want Twitter where they can tell others to dilate and post buried statistics, and Alex and the like fall into that camp. The big problem here of course is how Alex is handling this all, and it's by taking the infamous FOSS "My way or the highway developer" approach that's going to cause even more friction down the line (and keep the Twitter addicts on mastodon anyway).
(DIR) Post #AFkWda4f98OoTyRbNI by kumicota@weeaboo.space
2022-01-24T01:06:39.405789Z
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@p @mkljczk @Moon @Ricotta @RobinWils @alex @fluffy I may be saying bs but I think the best way to deal with notifications would be to use a db that would be better for that like a non relational database as they tend to be better suited for that or to make to pleroma to support redis
(DIR) Post #AFkWnAaQlOksKVsMMK by throwaway1@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T01:08:27.599793Z
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@p @RobinWils @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @graf @mkljczk > the people that were on FSE that now run their own serverslike the Velvet Underground: "they didn't sell many records, but everybody who bought one started a band"
(DIR) Post #AFkcwEGp2JE45OPIuG by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T02:17:19.649727Z
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@kumicota @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @mkljczk @sjw @sjw Yeah, according to Alex. Snow even discussed a few "this will trigger the trannies" ideas with Alex in public; as I recall, Alex said that he was unconventional but useful. Ask him yourself.
(DIR) Post #AFkdnM3aofsfaFYFbk by denza252@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T02:26:49.247996Z
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@p @fluffy @Moon @Ricotta you take that back P Kirkland Signature stuff is (often) pretty good
(DIR) Post #AFkeGtISJKiZ4ZaTTs by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T02:32:15.996986Z
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@duponin @Moon @Ricotta @apropos @fluffy @thatfightnerd @verita84 > I heard from Feld long ago that Pleroma scales logarithmically with users number Feld has said a lot of questionable things about performance. (After posting "Every Pleroma instance can handle its load", I said to have a look at my posts about performance and said that this could be checked for any instance because the Prometheus endpoints for all of these servers were all public. Instead of replying, feld pushed a commit that disabled Prometheus by default.)Really, user numbers aren't the big deal, it's age and activity. I've had to do manual cleanup, deliveries/notifications/etc. Long threads that suddenly start federating cause issues because object lookups rely on Postgres caching. Things like that.
(DIR) Post #AFkeoNnlulI5EsCnVw by verita84@rage.lol
2022-01-24T02:38:15.638Z
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@1iceloops123@shitposter.club @p@freespeechextremist.com @alex@gleasonator.com @Moon@shitposter.club @Ricotta@yggdrasil.social @fluffy@social.handholding.io @mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl Alex was talking about maybe adding redis to the mix to fix performance like mastodon and misskey does. Pleroma does too many expensive disk operations
(DIR) Post #AFkepxuZ94xHWK8bi4 by throwaway1@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T02:38:36.330739Z
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@p @duponin @Moon @Ricotta @apropos @fluffy @thatfightnerd @verita84 > Instead of replying, feld pushed a commit that disabled Prometheus by default.loving the truth enough to live in the light is a litmus test
(DIR) Post #AFkfeU9PYPoFzLAggC by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T02:47:44.145785Z
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@Prude @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @shebang > “calling people retarded is more unacceptable than being a deranged leftist” actually made me more willing to say Alex is in the right hereAh, yes, Alex the right-wing, uh...[checks notes] gender-critical male radfem and vegan animal rights activist.Most of the Pleroma developers are left-wing; Alex is left-wing. Left/right isn't a factor here. lanodan, a Pleroma developer for a long time, someone that wrote software you are currently using, is sensible and has always been nice to me. Alex is not a bad guy, either (though he apparently doesn't take criticism well, or maybe he's having a bad week, but I wish he'd goddamn stop).All this stupid "leftist, therefore wrong" talk is playing into the actual deranged game of pushing politics into everything. A hallmark of every society that went completely off the rails is totalizing philosophy, the idea that there is nothing beyond the reach of your politics/religion/morality/whatever. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, all the way back to ancient emperors. In addition, subjectively, it's vapid and boring.So, fuck that retarded horseshit, I'm going to go with how people treat me and what they do.
(DIR) Post #AFkfqpKscAX7ARQ9GS by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T02:49:57.974425Z
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@NEETzsche @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @Ricotta @shebang Let me update the other sign:"We have gone 0 days without NEETzsche saying it doesn't matter if he has read the thread or not."
(DIR) Post #AFkg9qQem4hA3mBuSG by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-01-24T02:53:22.512472Z
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Formerly Chuck’s.
(DIR) Post #AFkgQ5tX2b8OewRglk by MercurialBlack@leafposter.club
2022-01-24T02:56:19.359477Z
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Formerly 1 day, presumably.
(DIR) Post #AFkgXllrkBpiZ0WHuC by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-01-24T02:57:41.557023Z
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Watching people seethe endlessly about this update is a source of entertainment unto itself.
(DIR) Post #AFkglkDoIikRoSFph2 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T03:00:15.162327Z
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@parisc @Moon @Ricotta @RobinWils @alex @fluffy @graf @mkljczk > There are some extremely vocal and picky normies out there who will sperg the fuck out if something isn't polished enough or fit their arbitrary idea of polished.Ah, yes. The "power user".> The other complaint that people have is about UI design being confusing and shitty"The only intuitive interface is the nipple." I think some of it's expecting it to work like Twitter and be the same as Twitter. It's going to be different from Twitter if it's going to do anything different, but it's hard to tell when someone says that which it is: is it confusing because they haven't been here long enough to get used to it, or is it confusing because it's genuinely confusing?> The thing is there are a lot of people using the fedi because they do not want Twitter.Yes, I'm on that list.> The big problem here of course is how Alex is handling this all, and it's by taking the infamous FOSS "My way or the highway developer" approach that's going to cause even more friction down the lineYeah, I think it's a bad approach: saying "You just hate progress" to people that dislike a patch you make assumes a linear view of progress. Not just that, but it assumes *you* know the way forward and that anyone that disagrees with you has no clue. Hubris is a virtue for engineers, but it's a bit different from arrogance and one of the worst sins for an engineer to commit is to fail to think something through from a different perspective. The lazy "This is progress!" response is an indicator of that approach; if you've thought it through, you can address the other perspective.
(DIR) Post #AFkgrEY6yJ0dJsMqXY by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T03:01:14.685707Z
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@kumicota @Moon @Ricotta @RobinWils @alex @fluffy @mkljczk I don't think a non-relational DB would be better necessarily. Notifications are a queue, and Postgres is fine for modeling a queue.
(DIR) Post #AFkguMzo1WQwNwohdo by TheMadPirate@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T03:01:48.693304Z
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@NEETzsche @p @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @Ricotta @shebang I’m still in the dark…Does this affect all Pleroma instances or just Soapbox ones?
(DIR) Post #AFkh322tHkye11OFVI by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-01-24T03:03:21.732727Z
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It doesn’t really “effect” anything on the instance level. It’s a frontend feature where, when replying to a post, it doesn’t replicate the metadata in the body of the message, which old clients did. It’s basically a bug fix.
(DIR) Post #AFkhBsI4vKjoMoi7G4 by dubh@husk.site
2022-01-24T03:04:57.892719Z
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@alex @p @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta You've equated obligatory effort to undo your work with "freedom." Like an idiot.
(DIR) Post #AFkhXt0CxSVCwfqcPg by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T03:08:57.189493Z
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@throwaway1 @Moon @Ricotta @RobinWils @alex @fluffy @graf @mkljczk > "they didn't sell many records, but everybody who bought one started a band" That's a pretty good line, I've never heard it, but it's exactly the difference. If the goal is to sell records, you want to take a different course of action than the one you'd take if you want music to flourish.Someone that's thirsty looks at a river and the salient characteristic is that there's a lot of water and you can drink it; someone with a longer-term goal and somewhat more perspective sees that it's a lot of water *moving*.
(DIR) Post #AFki9wUwPRlKn7MyKO by TheMadPirate@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T03:15:49.857339Z
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@NEETzsche @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @p @Ricotta @shebang So the issue is that he basically made a commit to his own lead project about something that doesn’t affect Pleroma?
(DIR) Post #AFkiCUb6bEZf7zT7s8 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T03:16:17.507607Z
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@denza252 @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy Yes agreed, but it's not a different thing from the original. There's a beverage, and then there's a Kirkland Signature beverage, and they are both things you drink that are supposed to taste good. This place isn't like Twitter; I don't want to use Kirkland Signature Twitter, I want to use something better. Fedi is already better, and "This place could be an off-brand Twitter" is a regression, not a step forward.
(DIR) Post #AFkiGlseHf47t8iNVY by Moon@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T03:17:03.373372Z
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@TheMadPirate @NEETzsche @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @p @shebang fun fact, these instances are networked together
(DIR) Post #AFkiMRXCqH48WZODxI by TheMadPirate@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T03:18:05.407844Z
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@Moon @NEETzsche @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @p @shebang Ohhh I see…The issue is that it was unannounced then.
(DIR) Post #AFkij5d6Ry0zFQwl4S by w@arachnid.town
2022-01-24T03:22:06.143046Z
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@p @Moon @denza252 @fluffy Kirkland stuff is good though.
(DIR) Post #AFklRAIAg0FOMGIgk4 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T03:52:33.513803Z
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@NEETzsche @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @Ricotta @shebang There's a sign that says "days without stale /pol/ shit" but it's never been updated because it's never gone over zero.So many great memes spawned here and 4chan has been stale since the feds took it over. :gnujihad:mokougnujihad.png
(DIR) Post #AFklfzfKT3pDkDCevY by portpupper@social.sakamoto.gq
2022-01-24T03:55:10.073938Z
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@shebang @p As I saw in another hell thread, it’s called Misskey because it’s missing key features.
(DIR) Post #AFklhzUI6IfrlszawC by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-01-24T03:55:34.204715Z
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The sign is a subtle joke. The shop is called “Sneed’s Feed & Seed”, where feed and seed both end in the sound “-eed”, thus rhyming with the name of the owner, Sneed. The sign says that the shop was “Formerly Chuck’s”, implying that the two words beginning with “F” and “S” would have ended with “-uck”, rhyming with “Chuck”. So, when Chuck owned the shop, it would have been called “Chuck’s Fuck and Suck”.
(DIR) Post #AFklyyE42qMumUV0L2 by portpupper@social.sakamoto.gq
2022-01-24T03:58:36.644885Z
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@parisc Or he could skip the big pharma middle man and drink the horse piss straight from the tap.
(DIR) Post #AFkm1Y5lfMnkb5qdcW by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T03:59:08.045802Z
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@NEETzsche @MercurialBlack @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @Ricotta @shebang > Watching people seethe endlessly about this updateI don't give a shit about it. (Which you'd know if you'd read the thread, but you don't read threads, you just make edgy teenager posts and then wander off.) It's bad, but I patched bloat and moved on with my life. The thing that bothers me is Alex being an asshole about it, and then continuing to be such an asshole that there's a fork brewing.Here, you and Alex take one each, then have a bath with candles and wine and see if you still feel like screeching about this, and if you do, don't bother me with it.midol-teen.jpe
(DIR) Post #AFkm9X3PPS2Dh7YFAO by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T04:00:34.613134Z
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@TheMadPirate @NEETzsche @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @shebang This affects every instance that sees a reply from a Soapbox instance, otherwise I wouldn't have noticed.
(DIR) Post #AFkmnZrYNyuHzO6Kum by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T04:07:48.829526Z
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@NEETzsche @TheMadPirate @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @Ricotta @shebang Is there a reason you always resist efforts to talk about something interesting or do you just do this because you *want* to shit the place up?Serious question. If you've got a reason, I'm interested in hearing it. I think you make these 4chan bots because you need to lurk more and you're always whining about being bored of fedi because you don't ever read. If you want 4chan, you know where to find it; for my part I ditched it before Chanology, and it's only gotten dumber since.
(DIR) Post #AFkmxozJ0RPhnJbzeq by TheMadPirate@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T04:09:39.927938Z
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@p @Moon @NEETzsche @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @shebang I kinda thought Pleroma just ignored all information that was not API standard on the ActivityPub message.
(DIR) Post #AFknBPldZWNNd2hTtI by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T04:12:07.327060Z
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@TheMadPirate @NEETzsche @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @shebang No, the issue is his handling of the negative feedback.
(DIR) Post #AFknOv0oiQqiIVEvFw by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T04:14:33.758430Z
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@w @Moon @denza252 @fluffy denza saying that is literally what I was replying to.
(DIR) Post #AFknT4GeFLDYA1ch72 by TaylorSwift@beefyboys.club
2022-01-24T04:15:16.907095Z
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@p @Prude @shebang @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta RETARDED INSTANCE ADMIN FIGHTRETARDED INSTANCE ADMIN FIGHTRETARDED INSTANCE ADMIN FIGHTRETARDED INSTANCE ADMIN FIGHT
(DIR) Post #AFknqWU3VNsqKf4vsO by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T04:19:33.088710Z
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@NEETzsche @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @Ricotta @shebangmidol-teen.jpe
(DIR) Post #AFko0VdhV2OibpLsLg by ArdanianRight@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T04:21:21.375995Z
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@p @NEETzsche @MercurialBlack @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @shebang I don't even really know what the update or the buttmad is about, just that a lot of people are being fags on the timeline for some reason.
(DIR) Post #AFko5YpD5CaDwA8zFA by verita84@rage.lol
2022-01-24T04:22:13.563Z
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@NEETzsche@iddqd.social :sneed:
(DIR) Post #AFko8y7xSvx7HPXRGC by w@arachnid.town
2022-01-24T04:22:46.981186Z
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@p @Moon @denza252 @fluffy All my zoomer brain knows is lie, smoke weed, be lazy, and not have any attention span. How do you expect me to read context?
(DIR) Post #AFkoKQB1WEH3SWQubw by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2022-01-24T04:24:56.225594Z
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@w @p @Moon @denza252 would you like a youtube video explaining the thread?
(DIR) Post #AFkoZXW0W6oAYwSOuG by andreas@yggdrasil.social
2022-01-24T04:27:40.987991Z
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@TaylorSwift @p @Moon @Prude @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @shebang How many retarded instance admin fights happen in the past year?
(DIR) Post #AFkorYOrxvngWGhyMK by w@arachnid.town
2022-01-24T04:30:51.706058Z
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@fluffy @p @Moon @denza252 No I need it explained to me in a five second video with a woman dancing to 2000's emo pop songs.
(DIR) Post #AFkoxCpv3HOxNW3W76 by jula@gleasonator.com
2022-01-24T04:31:56.917388Z
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which is literally the last stable release. If he's going to introduce a change, at least put that change in the fucking stable branch and release it with an actual fucking version number.
(DIR) Post #AFkprNBFmPPVg0oin2 by parisc@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T04:42:06.683176Z
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@p @Moon @Ricotta @RobinWils @alex @fluffy @graf @mkljczk Definitely and had Alex done anything from ask for feedback about it, to push it in his own soapbox fork, it wouldn't be such a big deal. Some testing would have shown for example that replies look like shit on anything that isn't Soapbox. Instead he pushed it, asked nobody, and then told everyone to suck his dick essentially when criticized for it. Now it's escalated into the flamewar it is.
(DIR) Post #AFkq6p78CpL8eeFxMu by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T04:44:54.445895Z
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@ArdanianRight @MercurialBlack @Moon @NEETzsche @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @shebang That's as good a summary as you'll find anywhere.
(DIR) Post #AFkqDi42obaQoj61L6 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T04:46:09.118106Z
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@w @Moon @denza252 @fluffy The easy version: if I am drinking whiskey and someone offers me bottled water or Kirkland Signature bottled water, I don't care, because I'm drinking whiskey.
(DIR) Post #AFkqI7BFNMYls7Z7y4 by w@arachnid.town
2022-01-24T04:46:51.942523Z
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@p @Moon @denza252 @fluffy I don't see you dancing in a maid outfit.
(DIR) Post #AFkqmdEWlhNRyBeSky by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2022-01-24T04:52:26.697264Z
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@ArdanianRight It’s not a horrible change. You do lost the ability to address one person directly by replying to their tag and pushing the others down like this ⬇️@shebang @p @alex @NEETzsche @MercurialBlack @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta But it is nicer in the UI; I’ll give it that. But there should have at least been a stable release on his own UI before he pushed it out to all of Pleroma stable. The one thing Mastagong has is fucking concrete versions/features. If I set SOAPBOX_VERSION to 1.3.0, I get a fucking ancient release that doesn’t work with his production backend changes.wget https://gitlab.com/soapbox-pub/soapbox-fe/-/jobs/artifacts/v$SOAPBOX_VERSION/download?job=build-production -O /opt/pleroma/soapbox-fe.zipand while I have you all here, why is there no way to download a Pleroma binary release by version tag? This is in the official docs:wget 'https://git.pleroma.social/api/v4/projects/2/jobs/artifacts/stable/download?job=amd64-musl' -O /tmp/pleroma.zipand it’s just whatever random ass release is the latest?
(DIR) Post #AFkqyIw83aqeUmbzay by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T04:54:34.367822Z
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@parisc @Moon @Ricotta @RobinWils @alex @fluffy @graf @mkljczk I think running stable on poa.st and running dev Soapbox on dev.poa.st would be a much better idea. Doesn't have to be poa.st, but poa.st is the highest-traffic one.
(DIR) Post #AFktgiAJol3fOKYFmq by Prude@beefyboys.club
2022-01-24T05:24:59.980886Z
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@andreas @TaylorSwift @shebang @p @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta Not enough on my watch~
(DIR) Post #AFktrAOvh1m9rIN4We by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2022-01-24T05:26:53.273724Z
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@djsumdog @ArdanianRight @MercurialBlack @Moon @NEETzsche @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @p @shebang The proper way to do it would be to have Soapbox include and federate the tags as normal, and then strip them out when it renders the post in its own front end. That way Soapbox users can have their Sam's Choice Twitter, and everyone else can see who the fuck is in the thread.
(DIR) Post #AFkvHZkk9qwHy9jNyq by TheMadPirate@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T05:42:52.545124Z
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@p @Moon @NEETzsche @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @shebang Hey!What do you expect? He married a radfem! Those things get mimicred in a married couple!.
(DIR) Post #AFkva9JGhHSZSXji5o by Prude@beefyboys.club
2022-01-24T05:46:13.287023Z
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@p @shebang @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta CW: EffortpostYou may have severely misunderstood what I meant–obviously nobody is accusing Alex of being cryptobased, rather the nature of the blog post made him comparatively more sympathetic and me more willing to assume he was correct (as the intended meaning of “right”) within this drama as a result. Contrary to what you were saying about “totalizing” there, it’s precisely that in juxtaposition to Ianodan’s chosen language, Alex appears more affable despite his views which then informed my sympathies. Certainly in the posts I’ve seen from Alex before, he’s usually in good humor and not overly-moralizing, which leaves me with no impetus to shit on his ideology apropos of nothing.I’m sure both are decent enough people in practice, and I appreciate the work they’ve done for Pleroma and so forth. That is, however, exactly why I don’t think my first comment was needlessly political and why I find your enlightened centrist condescension unnecessary (though I can forgive you for not knowing me well enough to know better). My gripe was that in what should just be a disagreement over mere development was turned into implicit character assassination by Ianodan invoking faggy ideological differences between him and Alex. Thus we return to the points I specifically commented on: He thinks Alex isn’t accepting enough of trannies as “old” justification (as if it’s not playing into the emotions now) as to why he thinks Alex shouldn’t be a maintainer in the first place, and then notes also that other lefties whining about nazis is a mild annoyance (thus painting the next clause politically by proxy) compared to the great crime of Alex calling others “actual retards.” Both of those points were intentionally political, and neither were necessary to make the ultimate case that he doesn’t approve of Alex’s changes or conduct towards him in particular.Lastly, there’s a bunch of waxing here and there about “the future of the fedi” or “who it’s for,” I can’t say I prefer most of the takes I’ve seen, but what I like about the fediverse that I don’t need to; everyone can live and let live regarding each instance’s userbase. Unfortunately, posts like Ianodan’s show how some indeed care about the ways that optics interplay with development, and in turn I’m saying the optics of choosing to specifically invoke controversies regarding trannies, lefties, and nazis when the issue at hand required no mention invites political contention. When someone who went out of their way for that also stresses in their conclusion that they primarily develop software for them and theirs (which is fine in a vacuum), it furthers the impression that it’s all at least partially politically tribalistic in nature, and could harm confidence in the software among those they have apparent reservations against if their vision went unchallenged.None of it has to be that heavy, but all I mean to say is that Ianodan could also better avoid inflaming controversy.
(DIR) Post #AFkxYJKueD75swkyBs by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T06:08:18.616878Z
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@Prude @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @shebang ok
(DIR) Post #AFky7PCepJS2DTd6Qa by Prude@beefyboys.club
2022-01-24T06:14:38.632016Z
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@p @shebang @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta I’m glad you understand now
(DIR) Post #AFkyNGfMKpUWN9cP8i by Prude@beefyboys.club
2022-01-24T06:17:30.261280Z
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@bot @shebang @p @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta and some might say: seethe–but the dilating is reserved for aforementioned parties
(DIR) Post #AFkzH6g6en9Hc0aswy by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-01-24T06:27:35.271097Z
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I did read. I read everything you wrote because your seething about this complete non-issue is entertaining, and your effort to shift the focus of it is even funnier.It’s not that you’re mad about the change. You’re mad about Alex’s reaction to people’s reaction to the change? Cope. You’re mad about the change.
(DIR) Post #AFkzri5P3IaG3Wsctc by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T06:34:13.574857Z
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@Prude @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @shebang I didn't read it past the part where you said I'm a centrist because I'm sick of wasting time on this and aside from that am waiting for Alex to get back to me on something. I can't mute the thread because he put it in this thread.
(DIR) Post #AFl0e8mX05jjO0fleS by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T06:42:58.735996Z
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@Prude @bot @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @shebang Oh, great, bot's here now.Lemme just turn off the Iron Dome and crank up the autoresponder. You'd think after that thread that made her ragequit fedi she'd understand the concept of not wanting to hear someone kick up senseless drama.
(DIR) Post #AFl0iYEIKP9lTAlIKO by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T06:43:46.562032Z
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@NEETzsche @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @Ricotta @shebang @TheMadPirate Answer my question or fuck off.
(DIR) Post #AFl13DlvaGCw6RLk6C by 11112011@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T06:47:30.697803Z
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@p @Prude @Moon @Ricotta @alex @bot @fluffy @mkljczk @shebang u can quote urself if alex doesnt get back to u, i ear u can now
(DIR) Post #AFl20QpkfFVhhMN8Do by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-01-24T06:58:10.853766Z
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No, you fuck off you fucking faggot. You’re having a protracted meltdown about something that doesn’t matter. This is autism, and not the high functioning kind where you memorize Pokemon stats, but the low functioning kind where you literally screech when your routine is interrupted.
(DIR) Post #AFl28Q4PO4M3eA2KI4 by Prude@beefyboys.club
2022-01-24T06:59:38.858366Z
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@p @shebang @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta Right, yeah, as I expected. Pipe up with some generalizing high-road take that implies others have been misled, and then refuse to engage any rebuttal pointing out why your assumptions were unfounded, as if one is only then too far above caring about the issue. Carry on with the whole passionately defending aggrieved tranny apologists prone to shoving their personal politics into development beefs and then “you’re being divisionary”-ing people who criticize its hazards, I’m sure everyone else who hasn’t had such fond relationships with them will be at ease.
(DIR) Post #AFl2O0jbLtHlhejrc0 by Prude@beefyboys.club
2022-01-24T07:02:27.933898Z
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@bot @shebang @p @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta Now hold on, I’m going to have to disagree here, P being indifferent to cunnyposters (since I’m pretty sure that’s what you actually mean) is praiseworthy
(DIR) Post #AFl38Z5hwnmNZxHGkK by Prude@beefyboys.club
2022-01-24T07:10:52.599770Z
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@bot @shebang @p @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta Look I have no horse in that race, I’m just here because I was butthurt over the implication that a grand paragon of perfect nuanced ideology and understanding like myself had been psyopped into blindly hating lefties or w/e
(DIR) Post #AFl3ppGlfkDwCv4yLA by mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl
2022-01-24T07:18:39.110158Z
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Inline mentions, like in your post, are in fact not standarized by ActivirtyPub.
(DIR) Post #AFl4k0cUeu8jcv20GW by mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl
2022-01-24T07:28:46.754086Z
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The proper way would be to modify display of remote content? What else? Profanity filter? Shadow banning?How would the client determine whether a mention was improtant in context of a given post? Users use mentions in various ways.That would be a hackish workaround (that might work for Mastodon which doesn’t support explicit addressing), not the proper way.
(DIR) Post #AFl4ldKEEqXfxWGLJo by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T07:29:08.605049Z
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@Prude @bot @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @p @shebang People need to get off legalspeechextremist and join common sense instances that shadowban inflammatory content. Become a common sense extremist, make Fedi usable again.
(DIR) Post #AFl55eZjIhK1cy3kH2 by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T07:32:45.966459Z
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@bot @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @p @Prude @Ricotta @shebang Why do you care? You're not on his instance.
(DIR) Post #AFl56CckhxwTEBjdho by Prude@beefyboys.club
2022-01-24T07:32:51.584475Z
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@mystik @shebang @p @alex @bot @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta It’s nearly impossible for me to keep up with what “common sense” and “inflammatory content” means to the various instances and factions around here tbqh though, but I guess it’s irrelevant for how our own instance works so w/e
(DIR) Post #AFl5GKkFMz5FJI4UZk by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-01-24T07:34:41.278301Z
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To be clear, his conception about the “proper” way to do things is really just “whatever way allows me to change nothing about my habits”
(DIR) Post #AFl5KuAbbNK0Kza2S0 by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T07:35:31.342641Z
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@bot @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @p @Prude @Ricotta @shebang You're not anymore, get over it.
(DIR) Post #AFl5UMLWDIF4KXC1om by RobinWils@whinge.town
2022-01-24T07:37:13.447201Z
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@p @alex @mkljczk @graf @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta Sure not everyone wants it to be like Twitter/to grow in that way. I kinda mentioned that before. Fluffy also stated that it could end up being a toy project if it stays that that. That is what I commented on somewhat. No one is going to take this platform that seriously as it is now.It is still an impressive platform when it comes to underlying technology. Better UI doesn't mean that it has to be like Twitter some things in UI are just common sense. It is meant to make the user their experience better. You will get people who leave if they don't like their experience. Sometimes you don't want those people, that's correct, see a platform like 4chan, but there is still some UI in there that is common sense.Twitter does have peep windows which hide the thread you comment on, that isn't the best UI in my opinion, but it is modern. I am not a huge fan of that choice. So no, it doesn't have to be like Twitter, but it isn't a terrible idea to see what other platforms have tried. Not grouping notifications was an example of that, and it seems like most comment I got on that agree that it should be a feature. Seems like common sense to me.
(DIR) Post #AFl5h9Y16oQUOw8htY by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T07:39:32.603221Z
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@bot @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @p @Prude @Ricotta @shebang Very hard to believe.
(DIR) Post #AFl6KCeRVH59JwlWWu by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T07:46:35.268938Z
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@bot @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @p @Prude @Ricotta @shebang Just block? Problem solved?
(DIR) Post #AFl6epGZdwwssIR1Oa by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T07:50:19.241683Z
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@bot @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @p @Prude @Ricotta @shebang I mean you block the bots, problem solved.
(DIR) Post #AFl6rb4vhkE8dX4uCe by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T07:52:37.678431Z
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@bot @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @p @Prude @Ricotta @shebang block him? problem solved?
(DIR) Post #AFl76ZJuWZbzWjDyOO by RobinWils@whinge.town
2022-01-24T07:55:20.056024Z
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@parisc @p @alex @mkljczk @graf @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta This I agree with. Although the feature doesn't seems like shit to me. You never can fully control how people act. I wouldn't say the problem is Alex alone, I think he meant well, and for some UIs it is a good change. Everyone has bad days. Yes, it wasn't the best way to act.Rules/a standard can help, so that features can work on another UI without breaking existing ones. A standard can be extendable if is well-made. In fact it should be flexible, but not too flexible, because if it is too flexible it can break stuff. Miscommunication is hard to fix with or without standard. People can choose to not follow it. P said that ActivityPub is a standard. It could be, but if you look it up it is 'a protocol'. It can have a standard, and usually has. A standard tends to be set of rules. Not everyone needs it, but it can help with people who miscommunicate. As this message might show, setting a good standard isn't easy, but it might prevent UI x does not support communication with UI y slightly. A standard is not a must, but good communication is.Anyway, I have explained my points. I think I can leave now. I might come back to check of there are comments on this. Me leaving has nothing to do with the platform. More with that I dislike the idea of social media in general. The people here are fine. Good luck!
(DIR) Post #AFl7Hz5X3kn8d9wUHA by colonelj@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-24T07:57:24.082130Z
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@bot @Prude @shebang @p @alex @mkljczk @Moon @mystik @fluffy @Ricotta
(DIR) Post #AFl7JgW551PvbuAfjc by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T07:57:42.488607Z
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@bot @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @p @Prude @Ricotta @shebang What abuse? The one that you're inflicting on yourself by not blocking his account?
(DIR) Post #AFl7RMDQRTKExt6Uk4 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T07:59:06.225104Z
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@Prude @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @shebang Yes, imagine declining to read a long-ass dramapost a day after saying I was sick of that shit.I said yesterday that I'd rather get back to what I was doing than deal with this, and Alex asked me to lay off. (I replied and haven't heard a word from him since, though he's been active in the thread since then, so I suppose there's my answer.)I tell you I'm not interested and here we are again. If the "high road" involves not dealing with this, I'll take it; I'm the fuck out of this thread. Before I go ahead and mute the thread, though, if you're that intent on shitting on the coffee table, I may as well skim this post so that I can swing from the chandelier and spray diarrhea everywhere:> then refuse to engage any rebuttal pointing out why your assumptions were unfoundedYou didn't rebut anything.> tranny apologistsMy entire point was that your ad hominem was stupid and that I care about how people treat me and what they do. lanodan has been great, for years. Alex has fucked up and that's fine, that kind of thing happens, but when there was a fuckup in Pleroma, they fixed it instead of antagonizing anyone that called it a fuckup. This is software, you ass. Either the code works or it's a fuckup. If you can't tolerate someone calling a fuckup a fuckup, fuck yourself.Incidentally, I don't give a shit what a stranger does with their own body. Add me to the list of "tranny apologists" if you like, I don't care. That lizard-man circus freak from the 90s? I wouldn't do it but I mind my business. Heroin? Same deal. I don't think people ought to kill themselves, but it's their own business. Vegans? Hey, it's Alex's choice.I'm not done with the third rails, either! Loli? Not my thing but drawings are drawings. Necrophilia's a victimless crime. Pedophiles should kill themselves, but anti-pedo crusaders are all a waste. Every government is illegitimate, but toppling them immediately would be a disaster. ISRAEL DOESN'T BOMB PALESTINE OFTEN ENOUGH. China's a shithole, the EU is a shithole, the East Coast of the US is a shithole, the Northwest US is a shithole, the Southeast is a humid, filthy shithole. I'd rather live in Russia than Germany, and the ghetto is a nicer place overall than passive-aggressive middle-class honkey zones. People that argue politics all day are fucking stupid. /pol/ is the most bland shit I've ever seen, everyone on it is retarded and everyone shocked by it is retarded. I don't care if the animals suffer before they are literally killed to be put onto my plate. There is no excuse to burn coal after the invention of the nuclear reactor.The KiwiFarms forum is an even more pathetic waste of time, but byuu didn't kill himself. Spinster is full of hypocrites but some of the people there are pretty cool. These blackpill-dropping ethno-nationalists are all pasty shitheads that are a bigger drain on society than any of the $outgroup races that they dislike, and having said that, I think there are a lot of pretty cool people on Poast. Moon is the only actually good fedi admin now that nep is gone, everyone else is comically inept at it, including me.Nobody makes art any more unless it's for a side-hustle, which is fucked up. People are fucking brain-damaged and don't know how to communicate and I unironically blame the CIA for this. Alex Jones is right. Safety is retarded. Children should have guns, while I'm on that topic. Everyone alive should mind their own goddamn business, but the majority of people on earth are really fucking stupid.Now I'm muting this thread and getting a bite to eat. Everyone in this thread should kill themselves.monstercsa.jpgmonsterloli.pngspinster_dot_xyz_be_like_that_sometimes.png
(DIR) Post #AFl7V3hTDwQUhNvDrk by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T07:59:45.647463Z
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@bot @Moon @Prude @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @p @shebang >"What he's doing is a crime btw."Ew? Is this you?
(DIR) Post #AFl7uQV7aWCIebF4VM by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T08:04:21.095071Z
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@bot @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @p @Prude @Ricotta @shebang >"I don't need to block accounts. "You're being irrational.You're complaining about a problem that you could simply solve by blocking his account, yet you say "I don't need to". This is borderline insanity.
(DIR) Post #AFl8Ags0UnRK3Tha7c by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T08:07:17.266401Z
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@bot @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @p @Prude @Ricotta @shebang Stop twisting my words. YOU ( @bot ) could solve YOUR problems by blocking HIS ( @p 's) account. Understood? Clear now?
(DIR) Post #AFl8SKREdS3nhFaeHI by coyote@enitor.xyz
2022-01-24T08:10:28.146682Z
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@bot @Prude @shebang @p @alex @mkljczk @Moon @mystik @fluffy @Ricotta https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJ_a7mxGpM
(DIR) Post #AFl8WJ1voRaCUIeQd6 by MaceDindu@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T08:11:12.187756Z
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@p > There is no excuse to burn coalWow, damnit Pete. :frog:
(DIR) Post #AFl8ZNXNVldFKqpE1Y by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T08:11:44.971949Z
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@bot @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @p @Prude @Ricotta @shebang Maybe he doesn't want to? This is completely insane. You want to break this online relationship by forcing the other person to break up with you, instead of you just pressing a button designed to do just what you need. You can't force him to do anything. You are free to press the block button, nobody's holding you back. Accept that you can't control what other people do. Just accept it.
(DIR) Post #AFl8aHgAmFwPSLN2VU by parker@leafposter.club
2022-01-24T08:11:54.049828Z
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>10 hourstry 3 years and counting
(DIR) Post #AFl8l73QcYEvgmPaPg by coyote@enitor.xyz
2022-01-24T08:13:52.376057Z
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@parker @Prude @shebang @p @alex @bot @mkljczk @Moon @mystik @fluffy @Ricotta they don’t make videos that long sadly..
(DIR) Post #AFl8pCxsaUivB7lk1o by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T08:14:36.814996Z
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@coyote @parker @Moon @Prude @Ricotta @alex @bot @fluffy @mkljczk @p @shebang Who needs those when we got @bot
(DIR) Post #AFl8szcO9UAKwWWOem by nukie@freecumextremist.com
2022-01-24T08:15:07.970014Z
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@p @Prude @shebang @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta hey bro you got the full picture of n. 3? I need it for... research
(DIR) Post #AFl92ibWGSlL4RkiWG by parker@leafposter.club
2022-01-24T08:17:01.717947Z
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If we livestreamed the federated timeline being read by a text-to-speech app, could probably get 3 years worth of material.
(DIR) Post #AFl9BzUeq7ve3fxr9c by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T08:18:43.890597Z
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@bot @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @p @Prude @Ricotta @shebang >"I don't want to block p because he is a graf cuck that takes his money and free gibs to further his objectives"What "objectives" exactly?
(DIR) Post #AFl9QlpDwMeQ0idDNo by colonelj@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-24T08:21:23.860530Z
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@mystik @Prude @shebang @p @alex @bot @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta talmudry
(DIR) Post #AFl9YAYQOewWjXImQK by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T08:22:44.382310Z
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@bot @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @p @Prude @Ricotta @shebang I can't see how you are not a @ew sock puppet account. Just get over it, dude.
(DIR) Post #AFl9edpITbhrFzHPtY by colonelj@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-24T08:23:29.303066Z
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@mystik @Moon @Prude @Ricotta @alex @bot @fluffy @mkljczk @p @shebang can't post dox cause that's harassment but automated spam isn't 👃
(DIR) Post #AFlA4Y42WTkwumWrqK by Prude@beefyboys.club
2022-01-24T08:28:35.185989Z
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@p @shebang @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta I know you said you’re muting this so w/e, but my intent wasn’t to be difficult or wear you down further and now I understand you might’ve felt I was out to “get” you somehow as well based on recent events. I just genuinely took exception with the way you made it sound like I was the one to introduce heated politics to this particular thread, versus Ianodan’s blog post itself raising unnecessary political talking points that I was merely commenting on in turn in the way I would anywhere else I shitpost online (and as I exhaustively covered prior, despite your insistence that I didn’t “rebut anything”). It’s a shame that you seem to think I’m at odds with you to such a degree, since I probably agree with you on a majority of things, like the futility of ideology (as much as I enjoy shit slinging) and all that loosely libertarian stuff re: people’s victimless choices, even when I don’t always personally love what people do with their freedom. Though I will always hate actively subversive trannies and their ilk, I also wouldn’t have brought that up without the blog inviting the topic. You sound like you could use some rest and I’ll drop my stake in things here.
(DIR) Post #AFlA5czlft9KUw2tzE by TaylorSwift@beefyboys.club
2022-01-24T08:28:46.348527Z
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@p @Prude @shebang @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta Holy shit lmfao touch grass bro
(DIR) Post #AFlNxaFBQ2Vb0SJYlk by xue@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T11:04:12.140790Z
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@p @Prude @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @shebang to be honest, i would rather get my dick chopped in a weird sexual fantasy than be a woman
(DIR) Post #AFlO1qVGuOF4ans8Uy by vriska@lizards.live
2022-01-24T11:04:58Z
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@xue @Prude @p @shebang @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta based tbh
(DIR) Post #AFlO6gSpf6Xsu72QLY by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2022-01-24T11:05:50.677535Z
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@mkljczk @p @djsumdog @alex @ArdanianRight @Moon @fluffy @shebang @NEETzsche @MercurialBlack Yes, it is the proper way. Pleroma, Mastodon, Misskey, and GNUsocial all include all the tags in the post. That makes it a de facto standard. If you want your off-brand Twitter FE to not have the tags cluttering up posts, then the standard dictates that it needs to happen on a client level so that federation with all the other instances complies with the standard.
(DIR) Post #AFlOB152x8M20Eyj7Q by xue@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T11:06:37.831687Z
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@vriska shut up, you should be resting now, not shitposting
(DIR) Post #AFlOG1bMRUOp4ETuWe by vriska@lizards.live
2022-01-24T11:07:29Z
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@xue I can't sleep my intestines feel like they are full of angry snakes
(DIR) Post #AFlOJCiFaVxqOeDh7A by xue@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T11:08:06.604469Z
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@vriska bc they probably are
(DIR) Post #AFlOwrDmuZgxKFsaWm by mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl
2022-01-24T11:15:11.329418Z
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So this means I can’t change minor stuff in a front-end unless I’m literally Eugen Rochko.
(DIR) Post #AFlSOQUy9y0QPukm7U by throwaway1@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T11:53:52.772755Z
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@p @Moon @Ricotta @apropos @duponin @fluffy @thatfightnerd @verita84 the irony of saying this from an anonymous account is not lost on me (though it was, when I said it)I'll go update my bio in an attempt to justify my hypocrisy
(DIR) Post #AFlTMMSeIe8FGoFOPg by throwaway1@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T12:04:42.679828Z
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@Moon @p @Ricotta @apropos @fluffy @verita84 JS does cooperative multitasking (non-preemptive), forcing the programmer to make decisions about when to yield
(DIR) Post #AFlUjOSb8Ica5KlnGq by throwaway1@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T12:20:04.734888Z
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@NEETzsche @TheMadPirate @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @Moon @p @Ricotta @shebang your use of the word "effect" here as a verb means "cause", whereas the use of "affect" as a verb means "influence"
(DIR) Post #AFlVz2d0AjL0xef4q0 by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2022-01-24T12:34:06.045394Z
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@mkljczk @djsumdog @shebang @ArdanianRight @p @alex @NEETzsche @MercurialBlack @Moon @fluffy You can change whatever you want on the front end, so long as it stays client-side. Everything that federates needs to look and behave exactly the same way everything every other server sends out.
(DIR) Post #AFlWpIHlCfUwa1drYO by dwaltiz@pleroma.soykaf.com
2022-01-24T12:43:32.352919Z
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@Ricotta @mkljczk Vanilla GNU social doesn't add user tags into the note. That was added by Qvitter, a third-party plugin/frontend which tried to emulate Twitter circa 2012.Also, WebFinger isn't part of the ActivityPub standard.
(DIR) Post #AFlXO4dxuoJkPEc2Ua by mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl
2022-01-24T12:49:47.158448Z
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>exactly the same way everything every other server sends outja pierdole muszę kurwa 476 razy tłumaczyć że nie każdy jebany serwer działa tak samo i pierdolona friendica i hubzilla działają podobnie od lat. smithereen zamiast webfingerów używa displej nejma a misskey używa pełnych @ z domeną. to kurwa nie jest ustandaryzowane. wypierdalaj albo coś
(DIR) Post #AFlXm3lUpitIdCZYB6 by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
2022-01-24T12:54:09.985228Z
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@mkljczk @djsumdog @shebang @ArdanianRight @p @alex @NEETzsche @MercurialBlack @Moon @fluffy No need to smash your keyboard just because you're upset.
(DIR) Post #AFlXrMT6iofS5RV0gy by TheMadPirate@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T12:55:08.039119Z
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@mkljczk @p @alex @Moon @Ricotta @fluffy @shebang @NEETzsche Interesting
(DIR) Post #AFlXuIswV7TTqGzDEG by mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl
2022-01-24T12:55:36.850188Z
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no w chuj
(DIR) Post #AFlY3pB5o4YobQ12Qq by TheMadPirate@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T12:57:23.180761Z
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@mkljczk @shebang @p @alex @NEETzsche @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta So adding non standard information doesn't change anything as long as the instance server and the front end supporr them, right?
(DIR) Post #AFlYOR5GaBGVxR7QmW by TheMadPirate@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T13:01:06.682985Z
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@mkljczk @Moon @NEETzsche @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @p @shebang If it were me I would call non standard ActivityPub features as:PublicActivityPubInterface:NonStandard
(DIR) Post #AFlYZlpHntC1TS35yS by zxcvfadsf@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T13:03:06.042194Z
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@p @Prude @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @shebang I love that monster wallpaper.
(DIR) Post #AFlYfKdVo9lesqC41I by dwaltiz@pleroma.soykaf.com
2022-01-24T13:04:09.124172Z
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@Ricotta retard
(DIR) Post #AFlbmIFlMlZPNl621Q by Moon@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T13:39:00.970901Z
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@throwaway1 @Ricotta @apropos @fluffy @p @verita84 I know.
(DIR) Post #AFlhFvoDsRpsEOANg8 by q@glowers.club
2022-01-23T19:34:47.446373Z
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I like this idea that you were somehow "obligated" to tell the other FE devs every single thing you were doing and wait for them to make their clients not suck before you're "allowed" to release the changes you want 😂 Clearly whoever wrote this is part of those 2 dozen retards 😬
(DIR) Post #AFljtFHjbEXXpwqPse by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-01-24T15:09:54.746243Z
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>You can change whatever you want on the front end, so long as it stays client-side. Everything that federates needs to look and behave exactly the same way everything every other server sends out.Literally just having a meltdown that a frontend interrupts your autistic habits and insisting that doing so is inherently improper. Cope.
(DIR) Post #AFlp9cP9uMlHwgwZH6 by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2022-01-24T16:08:53.889771Z
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@bot @mystik @alex @mkljczk @Moon @p @Prude @Ricotta @shebang did he actually do that? lmao
(DIR) Post #AFmqq4GK7f7NM3h5hg by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-01-25T04:02:30.144309Z
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@bot @Prude @shebang @p @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta >"pedantic and malicious"Opinions. Everyone has one. >"I didn't even do anything to him or involve him in anything beyond jumping in an ongoing thread"Nobody asked, nobody cares. Petty fedi drama. Irrelevant.>"he can just grow up and block me"Why don't you follow your own advice and block him, start by yourself? Problem solved?
(DIR) Post #AFmrIcNGt8NXGAYdGq by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-01-25T04:07:39.775671Z
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@bot @Prude @shebang @p @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta >"I want to see what he's posting"Well, you want to see what he posts, including his bot posts. Masochist!
(DIR) Post #AFmttjyBoMCNRJef8S by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-01-25T04:36:45.734126Z
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>We desperately need a cure for autism.On the fediverse? Never happening.
(DIR) Post #AFmu5SYoMerwv8NA0m by barasaint@bbs.kawa-kun.com
2022-01-25T04:38:53.536846Z
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@NEETzsche >Implying even if it existed we'd take it@Prude @shebang @p @alex @bot @mkljczk @Moon @mystik @fluffy @Ricotta
(DIR) Post #AFn2cu6nlF6BY7jIkC by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-01-25T06:14:33.997734Z
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>implying even mandatory autism treatments will workAutistes belong in monasteries. Honestly, there are days where I like the thought of being put in one.
(DIR) Post #AFnYCCyYhdKmmMBkPo by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-01-25T12:08:19.100292Z
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@NEETzsche @bot @barasaint @Prude @shebang @p @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta Autists live a fake live. They don't know what it feels to be alive. Of course there is a cure for autism, and of course it's suppressed by the powers that be. Recovering from autism is glorious, you begin to live a real life. https://noagendatube.com/videos/watch/9a29f0cf-40db-4fad-a1d5-08cc09fa81fb
(DIR) Post #AFno38SRjIJjQXrcES by Prude@beefyboys.club
2022-01-25T15:05:57.325829Z
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@TaylorSwift @p @Moon @Ricotta @alex @fluffy @mkljczk @shebang testing this thing @makeitquote
(DIR) Post #AFoXq0x0vOpYGtqKBs by extraspecialk@paypig.org
2022-01-25T23:39:00Z
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@p @Prude @shebang @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta So I sounds to me like the jist of it is,There was a process for submitting commits,Alex bypassed that process, and made a controversial commit.The controversial commit broke functionality with client apps.Now users have to wait for client maintainers to update code because of Alex's commit.Alex's response is basically "Just make your own fork"Do I have that right?
(DIR) Post #AFoXwfrdisvetpVMeW by extraspecialk@paypig.org
2022-01-25T23:40:12Z
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@p @Prude @shebang @alex @mkljczk @Moon @fluffy @Ricotta There's nothing "left-wing" or "tranny" about having a review process of code commits before they're pushed out. In fact I would have assumed that was SOP for any group project.
(DIR) Post #ALxlwUtp5AFrJtLgoK by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-07-28T21:42:04.542191Z
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Ha, I should thank the RT bot because I'd completely forgotten that this was a reply to Prude; I don't think I noticed Prude before that "Let's blockade Poast!" shit his circlejerk club tried to pull.> maybe he's having a bad week, but I wish he'd goddamn stopIt looks like he didn't stop.
(DIR) Post #ALxmLnLhckEZmQS5xY by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-07-28T21:46:38.259843Z
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@p >necrobump>defending poast
(DIR) Post #ALxnVQZPGoxbyy1FNw by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-07-28T21:59:35.609162Z
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@mystik The RT bot noticed it.> defending poastThat post wasn't defending Poast; it was criticizing attempts to blockade instances. I'll defend Poast if I feel like it, though. graf's a good guy, and he knows what he's doing.> :pinkwojak: YOU ARE CRINGEI'd say that the actual cringe are your lengthy defenses of (1) child brides and (2) giving children bleach enemas twice a day. Remember to keep it retarded, my dude.
(DIR) Post #ALxnjCUIQQIwMQCDz6 by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-07-28T22:02:02.136668Z
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@p No, he's not a good guy at all. You'll learn with time.
(DIR) Post #ALxobmkboe4CSxr2EC by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-07-28T22:11:56.851346Z
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@mystik He has never told me to put bleach up a child's ass, so he's got that going for him. This puts him way above you in any conceivable ranking of humanity.Fuck off completely with your purity spiral shit, man. Every time you do this, I tell you to fuck off with it, and you never fuck off with it. Fuck off with that retarded horseshit permanently and irrevocably. You didn't read or understand the post I was replying to, so I will make it really easy:mystik_can_fuck_off_forever.png
(DIR) Post #ALxouc81X9Cv1WmiFE by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-07-28T22:15:20.404818Z
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@p I'm not reading that wall of text, sorry, it's too retarded.
(DIR) Post #ALxp5ind4THktnXec4 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-07-28T22:17:21.336954Z
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@mystik I wish you ever typed a thing that made me happy to see your avatar in the notifications pane.
(DIR) Post #ALxpI72OmPQpY0MIG8 by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-07-28T22:19:35.561982Z
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@p Oh, I can do that:BOOBA
(DIR) Post #ALxphd4un5RQ9vhdom by CaptainFuggetaboutit@nicecrew.digital
2022-07-28T22:24:12.268594Z
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no he wont lol
(DIR) Post #ALxpwLDdTQJN74nU1o by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-07-28T22:26:48.362800Z
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@CaptainFuggetaboutit @p I used to defend poast because of some good users but now... gee, I see they're dumb for being blind to what's happening around them. Just like me, everyone will get to see what kind of person this Daniel Stevens dude is.
(DIR) Post #ALxqFGG096BDE5vR4K by mystik@shitposter.club
2022-07-28T22:30:16.653059Z
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@p Small booba.
(DIR) Post #ALyHu8RumGNhe7DEpc by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-07-29T03:40:12.565745Z
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@mystik Oh, okay, well, that's better.