Post AFArBtkaLmNcuNLVeC by loghdub@poa.st
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(DIR) Post #AF9Mebj19hHRfGrX04 by LouisConde@poa.st
2022-01-06T02:50:29.314723Z
39 likes, 14 repeats
E-Christian who would immediately scream the Shahada the second his pinkie toe touched sand acting like a complete ghoul.
(DIR) Post #AF9MnMo5zQz20GPkno by Samhydeigger@poa.st
2022-01-06T02:52:06.807284Z
9 likes, 0 repeats
this is what a person who sold their soul to the computer screen looks like
(DIR) Post #AF9Mqzm5Z84LjCCpPc by shitgrifter@poa.st
2022-01-06T02:52:45.285998Z
20 likes, 4 repeats
nothing is more ghoulish and disgusting to me than internal religious infighting. infighting among religions in wn circles is already bad enough.
(DIR) Post #AF9MyoDSQLXuCEjWGe by Dicer@poa.st
2022-01-06T02:54:06.389168Z
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I still catch myself at times about to say, ''By Allah'' because of all the years of ironic Islam support after seeing how self-destructive certain people are.
(DIR) Post #AF9N2Errn1ptixGmga by ConfederateHobo@poa.st
2022-01-06T02:54:48.316598Z
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This one tops the dingleberry cheering on bible burning because they were "prot bibles"
(DIR) Post #AF9NJTNh5BsjewNHZQ by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T02:57:55.527060Z
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@shitgrifter @LouisConde Boomers and older generations in my family have stories about how their parents would threaten to disown them over shit like a Catholic girl wanting to date a protestant guy. Hearing those always makes me want to set everything on fire.
(DIR) Post #AF9NTBcjxVcDTw2nbM by AnimeTradCath@poa.st
2022-01-06T02:59:40.778982Z
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@LouisConde the Coptic Christians are Spiritual descendants of St. Mark are infinitely more Christian than this novelty chasing faggot!
(DIR) Post #AF9NZd7MeMBsUSROEK by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:00:50.132578Z
4 likes, 0 repeats
Isn't ISIS literally a proxy of mossad ? Lol
(DIR) Post #AF9NbLYIveiuahrOwC by 9zbVLJj7aZW1OP4Tiq.verita84@rage.lol
2022-01-06T03:01:07.761526Z
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@MelGibsonafter4Beers @LouisConde Everything is
(DIR) Post #AF9NdFKZ21qVsGL5u4 by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:01:29.502370Z
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Many such cases
(DIR) Post #AF9NkilVzbVjBvVegy by LouisConde@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:02:50.125598Z
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>"Yeah but so what, because I just looked like a BADASS on the internet!"
(DIR) Post #AF9NmpoCmCV5cCm9ZY by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:03:13.856877Z
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People like this are usually just doing the "devoutly religious" thing as an act .
(DIR) Post #AF9NukApbxkUSH88rw by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:04:39.187216Z
5 likes, 1 repeats
We all know who the real pope is
(DIR) Post #AF9NxkVUpQnSMEEGu0 by Holohoots@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:05:12.213074Z
9 likes, 3 repeats
>Martyrs: Receiving a crown of glory for refusing to deny the King of Kings all the way to the end of their life>Extremely Online Retard: "HEH, SHOULD'VE DENIED CHRIST"Go FUCK yourself
(DIR) Post #AF9OBohi1Mh1QceL0C by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
2022-01-06T03:07:43.845435Z
2 likes, 1 repeats
@LouisConde Wait, this guy is actually supposed to a Christian himself, not a fart-sniffing Skeptic irony worshiper? He sure had me fooled :loli_shrug:
(DIR) Post #AF9Oahpsh53NMnL9Si by Donald_McRonald@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:12:14.667254Z
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Boomers are ready to go to fucking war over that but try to get one of them to criticize the kikes, it's goddamn impossible
(DIR) Post #AF9ObVaLj6L3f6SSC8 by Nike@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T03:12:22.757234Z
7 likes, 2 repeats
@LouisConde McNabb is right about e-Christians
(DIR) Post #AF9ObqYHlyAKgmebOS by RoyalJohnny242@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:12:26.559596Z
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@LouisConde I have relatives who are born again Christians. I’d like to see him say this shit within earshot of me.
(DIR) Post #AF9Od5y9w9c8nKLque by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:12:40.576426Z
15 likes, 13 repeats
If Vatican 2 was so great Why don't they announce Vatican 3 ? God said sports are homo Tackle a horse
(DIR) Post #AF9OeJAqKPK82NrXay by Donald_McRonald@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:12:53.505973Z
4 likes, 1 repeats
Also it's ISIS so it's basically Israel doing this beheading.They were murdered by jews.
(DIR) Post #AF9Okn7XtpY0eZPaGe by KashKustomer@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:14:04.022389Z
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@Nike @LouisConde I was gonna say it but...Thomas Sewell said it best:Until we win, the only religion is National Socialism
(DIR) Post #AF9OteOtgqdKDMkh28 by Nike@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T03:15:39.657960Z
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@KashKustomer @LouisConde
(DIR) Post #AF9Oz708mTG4MkmD0i by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:16:39.071004Z
5 likes, 1 repeats
The more you listen to TerryThe more he makes complete sense
(DIR) Post #AF9P09UV0fZONRTMDQ by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T03:16:50.100455Z
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@Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @shitgrifter At the risk of being extremely typical, shit like that is how I wound up putting on the fedora. Not necessarily an endorsement, just a cautionary tale.
(DIR) Post #AF9P0bcGROPzbdJxCq by LouisConde@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:16:54.419619Z
7 likes, 1 repeats
He's a 17 year old edgelord
(DIR) Post #AF9P8jrbf29tVANK5o by BobsonDugnuttHB@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:18:23.021274Z
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Lots of Coptic Christians are Catholic, not all of them belong to the Coptic Orthodox church, so his assumption is retarded on its face to begin with.
(DIR) Post #AF9PFb090cW22idduC by shitgrifter@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:19:37.963365Z
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@Senpai-kun @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde you're welcome back anytime, bro. We aren't all like that.
(DIR) Post #AF9PJrQVskTM8x0Qeu by PensiveCowboy@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:20:23.971143Z
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(DIR) Post #AF9PKxLvKpCooPNiwi by LouisConde@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:20:36.101182Z
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The Copts aren't Monophysites either, that's just a misrepresentation that took place mostly because of linguistic issues with translating from Greek to Coptic.
(DIR) Post #AF9PPI8lzJWORWIWIK by shitgrifter@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:21:23.181643Z
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@LouisConde @ChristiJunior >17 and on twitterOH so THATS why
(DIR) Post #AF9PXRQdL4s1Z9XPkG by BobsonDugnuttHB@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:22:51.561342Z
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Correct, but I didn't want to get even further into it. That guy basically has no idea what he's talking about at all.
(DIR) Post #AF9PoTBw2OZNxMmaRc by Bunny@comfyboy.club
2022-01-06T03:25:55.982416Z
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@ConfederateHobo @LouisConde the absolute state.
(DIR) Post #AF9Pw6FVDlTJ7P5cAq by gallonofvril@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T03:27:18.216415Z
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@LouisConde @BobsonDugnuttHB Copt, Seer and Divinitate
(DIR) Post #AF9QsOTdbk9cRnUvxI by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:37:50.970540Z
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Monophysites deserve to be murdered by Arians t., Guy who hasn't finished the chapter his gay priest assigned him for catechism week one.
(DIR) Post #AF9Qx7sakDD6Q2QV1s by jew@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:38:42.200604Z
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i hope he dies.
(DIR) Post #AF9QyDcItmaOVDKS5A by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:38:54.276372Z
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I've talked to some of them who definitely are, but that doesn't mean they should be butchered by isis. Like, none of this needs to be complicated at all
(DIR) Post #AF9RYEJ1oWyd44U5YW by BobsonDugnuttHB@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:45:21.735496Z
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I mean, half my family is ethnically Copt, so obviously I'm not a fan of any Copts, regardless of their particular brand of Christianity, being slaughtered by CIA/Mossad proxies.
(DIR) Post #AF9RcKWGecUPUgdFSK by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:46:09.190357Z
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I straight up don't like people being murdered.NOVELTY TAKES OUT HERE FOR REAL
(DIR) Post #AF9RgMqnvdSjsmABAu by LouisConde@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:46:52.789956Z
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What a contrarian.
(DIR) Post #AF9Rl8V4i7xWp6H0Ou by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T03:47:43.300561Z
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Dude. Someone hold me back before I join [meme group] and redact the local poast office for the glory of odin
(DIR) Post #AF9RzNnicUXGKcmrYG by gallonofvril@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T03:50:18.785940Z
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@Robert_Edwardly @BobsonDugnuttHB @LouisConde You're going to go on a wild resuscitation spree, reviving people with NDRs someone stop him!
(DIR) Post #AF9UQiYZl4dYQorl8S by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T04:17:40.188557Z
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@shitgrifter @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde At this point the arguments have settled in and my secularism comes from a rational place, so I can't just Pascal's wager my way back. It's just that I only ever became willing to listen to antitheist arguments in the first place once the friend/enemy distinction barrier was lowered, and the rest was just a matter of not finding disagreement with any of it. That only happened once I stopped seeing their proponents as enemies, because I no longer saw the targets of their criticisms as friendlies. As far as not losing people goes, it's extremely important to maintain your place in that friend/enemy classification.
(DIR) Post #AF9vAtX9sKcibbsmcC by ShtPoastAnon@poa.st
2022-01-06T09:17:19.862143Z
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I am in a similar place, have been many years, and I see Pascal's wager as too dishonest. where faith needs more than "believe x so i dont go to hell".
(DIR) Post #AFA7hqkAT8OYxTRrCi by Umlauts@poa.st
2022-01-06T11:37:45.686477Z
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Gonna get my largest Bible and beat him with it until the faggotry stops.
(DIR) Post #AFAWhV3fanrSYXV4ZU by PorkCow@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-06T16:17:49.695488Z
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@ShtPoastAnon @Senpai-kun @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @shitgrifter I've always hated how high-profile that Pascal thing got to be. "Better throw away all my gold just in case Lord of Ring is real" is not an argument. Not that I know of "the void exploded unprompted and then the ooze made some chimps" having any better arguments, but acting like no other religion has a hell is just silly.
(DIR) Post #AFAWvR6j4tgCMDZiHw by ShtPoastAnon@poa.st
2022-01-06T16:20:20.531360Z
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technically already in bhuddist hell RN(right now) in my current reincarnation cycle.
(DIR) Post #AFAXFD6mpsCCjR24au by RoyalJohnny242@poa.st
2022-01-06T16:23:54.230448Z
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I’ll get the Koran I got for free in undergrad from a Muslim student Union club table and join you in this sigma grindset book club
(DIR) Post #AFAYIp0OUaDV5dKPPU by KitFistingGuy@poa.st
2022-01-06T16:35:46.442515Z
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@LouisConde We need another Inquisition to deal with the e-Christians.
(DIR) Post #AFAYgHccGMjSVEOSqu by shitgrifter@poa.st
2022-01-06T16:40:00.445265Z
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@PorkCow @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @ShtPoastAnon @Senpai-kun pascal's wager is used because it is easy to understand and communicate and it's fairly straightforward. Because of that, a lot of people believe it is the best argument for christianity. If you want to think in terms of convincing or actual in depth theology it really isn't the best.
(DIR) Post #AFAZ1jXdeZ0tAwIGkC by tengumatingpress@poa.st
2022-01-06T16:43:53.359580Z
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@shitgrifter @LouisConde Are any of the people who participate in that actually relevant though?
(DIR) Post #AFAZ9rCp2dpXGKQlGq by shitgrifter@poa.st
2022-01-06T16:45:20.850201Z
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@PorkCow @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @ShtPoastAnon @Senpai-kun also not to get pedantic but of the religions that *do* have afterlives, good and bad, none are actually eternal as hell and heaven are said to be in christianity. Iirc @SuperLutheran did a bunch of work on this for his seminary.
(DIR) Post #AFAZXNDyAD49E6BGTo by tengumatingpress@poa.st
2022-01-06T16:49:36.159613Z
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@shitgrifter @PorkCow @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @Senpai-kun @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran It's still a vague threat that would have no impact on people who don't already believe tbh
(DIR) Post #AFAZYGojTE9Xe2ntuy by PorkCow@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-06T16:49:46.516608Z
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@shitgrifter @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @Senpai-kun @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran Really? I have a hard time believing a single Talmudist believes in a path of redemption for goys.
(DIR) Post #AFAZYW84XbXH8My3e4 by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T16:49:48.957331Z
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@shitgrifter @PorkCow @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @ShtPoastAnon Pascal's Wager isn't just not the best argument, it's counterproductive and worse than no argument. It's inherently dishonest, cynical, materialistic, and contains within it a huge potential to backfire against anyone for whom it once had initial success but then is successfully counter-argued later, which is easy to do. Someone in that position will not only reject the argument at that point, they will feel tricked and be embittered because of it.Do not attempt to use clever tricks to get someone on sides with your position. If you're right then you don't need to trick people into agreeing with you.
(DIR) Post #AFAZpEUZMv6XM9SeXo by Holohoots@poa.st
2022-01-06T16:52:48.602799Z
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I'll bring a copy of the talmud and hoot at hom while pointing at it saying 'YOU DROPPED YOUR TEXTBOOK, FAGGOT'
(DIR) Post #AFAZpRb4e32205bWzI by shitgrifter@poa.st
2022-01-06T16:52:49.398308Z
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@PorkCow @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran @Senpai-kun well, they don't. Thats actually a point in favor of christianity (or at least against Judaism)
(DIR) Post #AFAa5WWy4L9Bw4LpVQ by sysrq@poa.st
2022-01-06T16:55:45.360566Z
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Terry should be canonized as a saint
(DIR) Post #AFAa8FjCzsM6gyNUY4 by shitgrifter@poa.st
2022-01-06T16:56:11.172129Z
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@Senpai-kun @PorkCow @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @ShtPoastAnon I mean I think you're being a little harsh but generally I agree, its really only good if someone is mostly there and needs that last little push to get there
(DIR) Post #AFAboNtj72oM98x3GC by Insomnolant@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T17:15:05.206430Z
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@Nike @LouisConde McNabb is not correct about anything regarding Christians.His statement that – if you're a real Christian it's solely because you have "religious feelings" and no logical reason to believe what you believe – is utterly retarded.
(DIR) Post #AFAe5IiTpWBguLswEK by Nike@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T17:40:33.167328Z
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@Insomnolant @LouisConde I can't see accounts with church-centered personas smugly cheering on the martyrdom of Christians and not think that there must be people online who don't actually believe what they claim to believe. A person can say they think x, y, z... is true, and thus identify as a "believer" in something, but this does not necessarily mean the person's acceptance of such truths has significantly influenced their life (ie: meaningful 'belief').
(DIR) Post #AFAecxmu9GmlqR0RNI by Insomnolant@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T17:46:38.343865Z
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@Nike @LouisConde There are people who claim to follow Christ but clearly do not. That's completely separate from McNabb's statement that belief in Christ is an entirely emotional response divorced from reason, and any Christian who attempts to present their beliefs logically is insincere.I don't listen to TDS hardly at all anymore, but that was what he insisted in 837 at least, which I just happened to make the mistake of listening to.
(DIR) Post #AFAefdEF2jh0x046OO by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T17:47:07.268442Z
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Oh Pascal's Wager applies to every belief system, and Christianity always ends up being the safest bet. Let's see here....If Hinduism (assuming Advaita and/or Shakti) is true, then being bad = getting punished for a bit before the next reincarnation cycle. The most the Christian has to fear is yet another reincarnative cycle (and Shakti provides that Christians might escape samsara in spite of not being Hindus).If Buddhism is true, assuming Theravada and/or Zen, the same results are presented as Hinduism.Reform Judaism tends toward "universalism except Hitler," Hasidism believes in a kind of post-millennial restoration of all things and peoples achieved by jews (that is, tikkun olam), and orthodox jews recognize the Noahidic laws as being salvific for Gentiles - something Christians already follow by virtue of the Ten Commandments.Islam most definitely has a hell, but it's not that bad by comparison. Hell as described in the Bible is eternal burning, sorrow and pain.. Muhammad's description of it is basically stomach cramps and skin lesions for a very very very long time. Muhammad also writes that 90% of Hell's inhabitants are women, so the vast majority of men are fine; maybe they don't get the full 72 virgins experience, but they aren't damned. Even then, the Hadiths record that at some point hell is emptied, leading to either total annihilation (ie., what the atheist wagers on) or entrance into paradise (the universalist position). Taking into account that Allah apparently like the "people of the book" sometimes, hell might not be something Christians face if Islam is true.Most modern and ancient pagan systems (GrecoRoman, scando, etc.) as well as modern shamanism fall between two camps. There's a modernist and Hermetic vision that agrees with Hinduism that there is reincarnation for all except the most enlightened. There's also the notion of eternal reaping of what one sowed in this life, either being punished like Sysiphus or being brought into Elysium like Orpheus. Both are entirely virtue based. Zoroastrianism holds to the same view with their "walk across a bridge" soteriology. Since Christianity urges us to do good works and love our neighbor, Christians who take their faith seriously have nothing to fear if muh paganism or muh shamanism or muh Zoroastrianism are correct.New age beliefs tend to gravitate towards reincarnation, but there have been some new ages that adopt universalism and others that think the unenlightened go off to stay in an earthy fate, having normal lives but unable to participate in the age of Aquarius.Mormonism says that non-mormons either end up in the terrestrial realm or the telestial realm (the latter of which being after a temporary stay in "spirit prisons"). They're not allowed to ascend to godhood and have infinite cummies with their spirit wives, but they're okay so long as they aren't Jack mormons or the devil and his minions.Jehovah's Witnesses started out believing in annihilationism, putting them in the same boat as atheists regarding Pascal's Wager. Recently they've been saying that, while the BEST heaven is reserved for the 144,000, nonJWs can still live eternally on earth.Scientology hasn't really given much of an answer, but hey, being a bad guy in allegiance to Xenu doesn't sound so bad.If any of these religions are true, the Christian faces, at worst, Islamic hell for a while. But if Christianity is true, then all adherents of these religions, who reject Christ, are looking at the absolute worst fate anyone can imagine.If there *was* a valid criticism of Pascal's Wager, it would chiefly be found in the "which Christianity" argument. There are megatrads in every denomination that thinks that no one is saved outside their particular persuasion, leading to hell for every other Christian. The problem with this though is that no Christian body has ever really, really taught this. Popes in the past tried to, Boniface being the worst offender, but RCC priests usually point out that papal pronouncements like that are not ex cathedra, are not verified by councils, and have never been taught by the magisterial. So while the criticism deserves attention, the critic will have a seriously hard time demonstrating the validity of his line of attack.
(DIR) Post #AFAepXhuQWFgiofSsa by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T17:48:52.117264Z
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But also screw that dude who's peeing on martyrs killed by Muslim terrorists. He should be beaten with sticks
(DIR) Post #AFAezXkr6Z0BlUoZY8 by TinTin@poa.st
2022-01-06T17:44:49.525337Z
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you gotta keep in mind its not that they're e christians so much that they're like 14 year olds who get attention via saying obscenely controversial things.
(DIR) Post #AFAezYFLHDO9I34v4K by Nike@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T17:50:42.389286Z
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@TinTin @Insomnolant @LouisConde I'd feel differently if this guy was 14, but he's not. Guy says in a different tweet he's 17. He ought to know better by that age; and if I has the chance to talk to him, I'd speak to him with the same seriousness I'd speak to any another man.
(DIR) Post #AFAf3CqilxZc5QIxhw by mkultra@poa.st
2022-01-06T17:51:23.221101Z
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McNabb's take says more about him than it does the people he's observing, which is the case with most of what he says.Pure Ersatz, nothing else, faith in only faith begetting faith. Faith in faith being unreasonable by nature. Appealing to people weary of retarded infighting.It lacks any incision. McNabb would grant (and has a long time ago) that cradle Christians like myself would count as legit, despite a lack of transcendent experiences.
(DIR) Post #AFAf4b703Bh7coaB1M by Nike@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T17:51:37.700794Z
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@Insomnolant @LouisConde That's not what I took from what he said.
(DIR) Post #AFAfH65ihCA7BGwb7g by mkultra@poa.st
2022-01-06T17:53:53.839623Z
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You see here is the thing:Jon is a literally face blind sperg with an amazing capacity to remember exactly what was said. He doesn't take things away, he only takes the literal statements as such. I could ask him about this conversation in 2 months and he would be able to quote what you said with relative accuracy.And for the record, my recollection agrees with him, but I just took what McNabb said literally, I've no need for charity.
(DIR) Post #AFAfKLVBr4xzqTPHEG by Nike@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T17:54:28.409897Z
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@mkultra @Insomnolant @LouisConde I won't say you're about saying more about him than others he's observed, but I'd be lying if I said I haven't seen the same thing he described.
(DIR) Post #AFAfPavfvOGH8jIW8G by sickburnbro@poa.st
2022-01-06T17:55:25.809369Z
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you are missing the jist of what is going on with the statement.
(DIR) Post #AFAfTSIdx1dxXAsjc8 by sickburnbro@poa.st
2022-01-06T17:56:07.742955Z
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related is my lament over setting a billboard saying"There IS evidence for God!"
(DIR) Post #AFAfVnmn2Kukkf6MEa by Insomnolant@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T17:56:32.767199Z
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@sickburnbro @Nike @LouisConde No, I'm not.
(DIR) Post #AFAfe7um59tpUqo1Jo by Nike@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T17:58:01.906666Z
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@mkultra @Insomnolant @LouisConde Im not saying McNabb didn't say that. When I heard it for my self (2 days ago lol), I knew who McNabb was and wasn't talking about when he said it.
(DIR) Post #AFAffug4Gj5d1NmLJ2 by mkultra@poa.st
2022-01-06T17:58:21.120395Z
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I concur we are all observing the same phenomenon, but the conclusions drawn say more about the observer than the phenomenon. Especially the further away the observer is from the facts in question.A light shined on an object shows its position as well through the creation of a distorted shadow. The distortions of the shadow necessarily reveal the perspective of the light.
(DIR) Post #AFAfkCaxar3ZkZR1H6 by Hotstuff@poa.st
2022-01-06T17:59:09.012275Z
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am I the only person who finds this whole exchange profoundly weird? what appears to be a white person saying that non-muslims being killed by muslims is good, then a probably white groyper quoting him saying that people who don't subscribe to his particular brand of judeo-christianity should die. Twitter is freaking weird.
(DIR) Post #AFAfkjjyMMsEY4uBP6 by sickburnbro@poa.st
2022-01-06T17:59:12.436351Z
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The point is that belief is what is the core of religion and belief does not rely on reason.
(DIR) Post #AFAfq4dM6fFsnPM4Xo by mkultra@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:00:13.133023Z
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Yeah I don't have any secret knowledge or secret club membership so I just sorta take people at their word.
(DIR) Post #AFAft3ExkAfPLKMhhw by Nike@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T18:00:44.789390Z
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@mkultra @Insomnolant @LouisConde Again, you're not wrong, but my initial comment to Louis's post obviously was not to offer an about McNabb as person lol
(DIR) Post #AFAfxpmXD3Op3ALh8C by Insomnolant@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T18:01:36.818420Z
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@sickburnbro @Nike @LouisConde That's the false dichotomy of the atheist that I reject. The notion that Faith in God is entirely irrational and divorced from logic is absurd. God gave us emotion and logic both, for the purpose of understanding the world around us in a manner balanced between the two. The attempt to isolate faith in God into one or the other is incorrect in both directions.
(DIR) Post #AFAfyqZxjNmBoPx2mW by mkultra@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:01:48.221058Z
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My commentary is agreeing with Jon and adding commentary. 1 mcnabb is wrong (t. murray clan), 2 the way he is wrong implicates perspective bias.
(DIR) Post #AFAg1hlmwLPFMLqUHw by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:02:18.665772Z
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>If Buddhism is true, assuming Theravada and/or Zen, the same results are presented as Hinduism.hells are described in elaborate detail, and last for scales of time that defy human comprehensionmoreover, while hell realms are (in a manner of speaking) an inherent feature of samsara as such, all causally-conditioned phenomena are impermanent, one's presence in hell is causally-conditioned by one's actions; therefore, a permanent state of being hellbound literally forever is not in keeping with the principle that causal effects are exhausted once ripenedfinally, the capacity for final awakening and liberation from samsara is an inherent feature of the nature of the mind as such. beings residing in the hell realms have minds; therefore, once their environmental situation improves, they will be able to pursue the path to liberation
(DIR) Post #AFAg21nEUgRfScfvJg by PorkCow@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-06T18:02:23.002957Z
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@SuperLutheran @shitgrifter @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @Senpai-kun @ShtPoastAnon So all Judaism wants for us is hell on earth? Weird. Have a quote for that?
(DIR) Post #AFAg2HjZE51Itt5DpA by mkultra@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:02:25.543255Z
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Deductive reasoning bad t. randos.
(DIR) Post #AFAg2sNWyyNUYG3e76 by Insomnolant@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T18:02:31.645438Z
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@mkultra @Nike @LouisConde Oh dangit you managed to drag me into intra-Irish infighting and I didn't even realize it.
(DIR) Post #AFAg7EM7DJfts3TKOO by Nike@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T18:03:18.374587Z
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@Insomnolant @mkultra @LouisConde I'm not taking that bait either haha
(DIR) Post #AFAg7jF6NRU5fHQfGS by sickburnbro@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:03:24.459609Z
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does not rely on reason does not imply irrational. It means that reason is not the master of belief.
(DIR) Post #AFAg8Ow5MXEEySr4SG by mkultra@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:03:28.270216Z
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Its scottish thank you.
(DIR) Post #AFAgLwlqsO9jfyWl7o by Insomnolant@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T18:05:58.443705Z
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@sickburnbro @Nike @LouisConde Both reason and emotion are necessary for belief. Belief without emotion is legalism, and belief without reason is charismatic feeling-chasing.McNabb attempted to divorce the two and reduce faith down to only feeling. I'm rejecting what he said. If you want to say something different that's great, but not what I'm responding to.
(DIR) Post #AFAgOJe8nQKhCd3B0y by mkultra@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:06:24.415289Z
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The blood feud will continue as long as I take breath.
(DIR) Post #AFAgktWQ5o0oq6CmLg by sickburnbro@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:10:29.261993Z
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belief tethered to reason will have you renounce your faith when a muslim threatens to execute you, if that's what you want, that's fine, but you're going to need to understand that most people don't consider that faith, but convenience.
(DIR) Post #AFAgr2JqIXKprQFc8m by Insomnolant@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T18:11:35.534355Z
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@sickburnbro That's retarded.
(DIR) Post #AFAgvGY5KmP59SvgiO by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T18:12:21.463829Z
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@SuperLutheran @shitgrifter @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @PorkCow @ShtPoastAnon 100% of this would not matter even if it were true, because the primary problem with Pascal's Wager is in its cynicism. First, you'd have to believe that an all-knowing god could be deceived by insincere worship. Secondly, you'd have to be willing to engage in such trickery as the false worshipper. Thirdly, it prioritizes a materialistic motivation for worship (avoid unpleasant outcome, pursue pleasant one).All of the probability-based goofery demonstrating that the wager is not just a binary choice between Jesus or nothing, that's just for fun. But it's a huge waste of time to go beyond the ethical premise. If there were a Heaven, with God lording over it and a Saint Peter standing at the gate, you most certainly couldn't just lie your way in.Worse, you cannot as part of a Pascal's Wager argument presuppose any part of your religion to be true, because the whole wager hinges on dismissing the whole question of truthfulness to identify the course of action most likely to produce an objectively desirable outcome regardless. It's a gambit for getting an atheist to, while remaining an atheist, publicly engage in Christian worship for reasons of personal gain and nothing else.It's a complete and total poison pill through and through.
(DIR) Post #AFAh5ZOG8XE6U2FMcC by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T18:14:13.437587Z
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@shitgrifter @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @PorkCow @ShtPoastAnon The harshness is directed at Pascal's Wager, not Christianity. It's a poisonous temptation, not a worthy addition to the toolbox.
(DIR) Post #AFAh7muappUezzQcXA by servant_of_the_anime_avatars@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-06T18:14:37.434866Z
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@sickburnbro @Insomnolant @Nike @LouisConde >belief does not rely on reasonThose two are inseparable. You can not reason without faith (even the statement "1+1=2", is inherently nothing but a deduction from unjustifiable axioms) and you can not have faith without reason.If you have faith without reason you could just believe in everything, since the division between truth and falsehood can only be determined by reason. Without reason, whatever might true today might be false tomorrow, and vice versa or you could believe in obvious contradictions, with no way to tell.
(DIR) Post #AFAhdtIqblJm5U55cW by sickburnbro@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:20:24.094698Z
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This is the crux of why the west is falling apart.Why be good to your fellow man?What is good?
(DIR) Post #AFAhsaiXzUAwn06yem by sickburnbro@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:23:05.018763Z
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reason cannot tell you these things.
(DIR) Post #AFAiWjw58WvExkaQoS by natsock@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T18:30:19.465444Z
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@mkultra @Insomnolant @Nike @LouisConde What's her name?
(DIR) Post #AFAiZBfgzG7zYw5UMy by Insomnolant@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T18:30:46.614591Z
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@natsock @mkultra @LouisConde @Nike Starbucks
(DIR) Post #AFAid8ClojZFyBRLns by mkultra@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:31:29.671012Z
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Its the clan murray coat of arms.
(DIR) Post #AFAieuPg49Fhm4KDC4 by branman65@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:31:48.638852Z
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Heaven is better then whatever desert hell they were stuck in.
(DIR) Post #AFAifcxYRYUjvsVt6e by natsock@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T18:31:56.326017Z
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@Insomnolant @LouisConde @Nike @mkultra will bing search it thx bro
(DIR) Post #AFAiiB0snt2Q7xHmEK by servant_of_the_anime_avatars@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-06T18:32:24.051113Z
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@sickburnbro @Insomnolant @Nike @LouisConde >This is the crux of why the west is falling apart.It is? The idea is very old, the Catholic Church practiced it for long over a thousand years (Aquinas), but it is even older, stoics conceived of morality as life in union with God (the Gods), which to them meant necessarily in union with perfect reason. And you can certainly find similar ideas everywhere between Aristotle and now.>What is good?How could you know without reason and faith?
(DIR) Post #AFAilEVwFBBDr0GkNM by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:32:55.092305Z
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That was a long row to hoe just to say "Yes, thats correct"
(DIR) Post #AFAir4AVcb8HVN1kES by sickburnbro@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:34:00.758577Z
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we have said that belief is a servant of reason. That's what trickled out from the Enlightenment.
(DIR) Post #AFAixGK1LeuIw4QlN2 by sickburnbro@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:35:07.054880Z
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I mean, in theory we have tons or reason now, why is the world so bad now?
(DIR) Post #AFAj6IKlEmF1mX5GGu by Insomnolant@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T18:36:45.618548Z
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@sickburnbro @servant_of_the_anime_avatars @Nike @LouisConde We live in a world dominated by the irrational belief that men can become women through sufficient injury, that people groups who developed in vastly different environments are identical, and that sexual acts with waste removal orifices is healthy and good.Fuck off with this "tons of reason" shit.
(DIR) Post #AFAj7Yux45XLVMcGVk by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:36:59.634095Z
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There are Hadith that present many people going "into the fire" or describing specific people who have very severe torment. Mohammeds uncle died a mushrik, and the Hadith describe him as having the least punishment of all muskrikim, namely that he wears sandals so heated by the fire that his brains boil.I doubt I'd want to go to Islamic hell.
(DIR) Post #AFAj8CFAqpszTNNSwi by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:37:06.373393Z
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Sure thing man
(DIR) Post #AFAjLcrDDKflmHZakK by sickburnbro@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:39:30.695703Z
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But that's plain to see. We have tons of engineering and science. That is all based on logic and reason.How could reason possibly do this if we started from a position of belief and reason?
(DIR) Post #AFAjWPF4AwfSjhs4fY by Insomnolant@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T18:41:28.565629Z
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@sickburnbro @servant_of_the_anime_avatars @Nike @LouisConde Having "tons of engineering and science" does not mean shit regarding people living according to logic or reason. Quit being retarded.
(DIR) Post #AFAjYVoghcPBhpXMEy by servant_of_the_anime_avatars@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-06T18:41:51.857520Z
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@sickburnbro @Insomnolant @Nike @LouisConde I guess, but again, both need to exist together, necessarily. If your faith is blind, sooner or later, you will run into a wall.That utilitarians, or others, tried to have purely rational morality, which failed disastrously, is true, but certainly does not mean you should abandon reason.
(DIR) Post #AFAjeoATNxYwMKjGLI by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:42:59.828725Z
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"Bhudism has reincarnation">um well ackshullay Bhudism has reincarnation
(DIR) Post #AFAjfXi24293bRmCOm by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T18:43:08.132598Z
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@Godcast @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @PorkCow @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran The other reason to not double down on this particular specialty of Pascal's Wager is that it implicitly makes the claim that out of all the world's religions, the Christian version of Hell is the most sadistic, and therefore the most urgent to consequentially avoid with an insincere plea deal. I can't imagine you want that on your plate.
(DIR) Post #AFAjhPB4kshxipFW8O by sickburnbro@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:43:28.302994Z
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Indeed. But what I am talking about here is specifically we have decided that reason is the master of faith. And what is bad has all pretty much come from that.
(DIR) Post #AFAjkjSZnp6nUl1P0q by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:44:04.381848Z
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Don't be mean to dk Myles.
(DIR) Post #AFAjsN9UctUCcpjr4i by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:45:27.100053Z
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the principle of the argument isn't entirely wrong in that e.g. Buddhists really do regard hell as temporary rather than permanent, but framing it as "just getting punished a bit" is a) not strictly correct in that there is a whole discourse about hell (TLDR, the "hell wardens" who appear to be torturing the hell beings are just projections of their own minds, so putting this in terms of "punishment" as though there is some kind of external agency willing the infliction of harm or at least physical/mental suffering is already begging basically all of the relevant questions at stake re: God qua punisher-in-chief).b) downplaying the duration and extent of the torment to a degree that fundamentally misrepresents Buddhist teaching. actually I've known people who got put off Buddhism because they thought it was going to be about nature and drugs and stuff but then they go to a traditional Buddhist teaching environment and the first thing they're hit with are weeks and weeks about how many hells there are, how terrible hell is, all the different kinds of torments in them, and on and on, to the extent that they were profoundly dissatisfied because "they thought it was going to be different from Christianity" when it comes to hammering on about hell and how you absolutely do not want to end up there under any circumstances
(DIR) Post #AFAk1sRbeUwsHZk8a8 by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:47:09.903703Z
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The claim that Hell is the worst possible option is quite explicit, and there's no room in Heaven for an insincere expression of faith. You're under the mistaken impression that this is a high pressure sales tactic. It's not. It's a dire warning of the consequences of sin.
(DIR) Post #AFAk2IFnh0xCKUQ4n2 by servant_of_the_anime_avatars@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-06T18:47:14.786233Z
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@sickburnbro @Insomnolant @Nike @LouisConde I would say it was a perverse version of reason, but I guess that is pretty much my point. Both need one another, abandoning one in favor of the other will inevitably lead you astray.
(DIR) Post #AFAk60fyzKYiyIREX2 by CenturianFrend@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:47:54.987119Z
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I found my way back after my first kid was born, there has to be a creator when He gave me a being so god damn perfect. Then it happened two more times.
(DIR) Post #AFAkDLlMzCDmOlSSbA by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:49:14.616210Z
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Debating eschatology between these two camps is pointless if it neglects ontology and theology proper.
(DIR) Post #AFAkDeqg1gkvaj5T0a by sickburnbro@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:49:18.047621Z
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I certainly think that reason helps faith, but when I look at people like the Jesuits, I think it causes a lot of issues.
(DIR) Post #AFAkERLViLwO0FsljU by Insomnolant@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T18:49:26.207789Z
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@servant_of_the_anime_avatars @Nike @LouisConde @sickburnbro He's looking at kikes using the pretense of reason to justify their evil beliefs and actions, and claiming "Ah yes, this is actual reason."It's not worth interacting with.
(DIR) Post #AFAkKvTYbbErBcjs5Q by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T18:50:33.740321Z
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@Godcast @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @PorkCow @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran Pascal's Wager intentionally dispenses with the presupposition of truth. That's what the wager is all about. It is nothing if not a cynical attempt to convince a nonbeliever into professing a false belief for a material reason. Reinserting the presupposition defeats the whole purpose of Pascal's Wager.
(DIR) Post #AFAkMBOctndmqv22EK by sickburnbro@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:50:50.218664Z
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You're making a ton of assumptions that aren't in evidence at all.
(DIR) Post #AFAkQvuLuZhyGS8WUy by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:51:42.004952Z
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You have an ungrounded and irrational faith that the laws of physics will hold from moment to moment. Or that minds exist independently of your own. Or that experements are replicable. Or that your observations ate veridical. Or a hundred other points of faith you wake up carrying, all of which other cultures may or may not hold to
(DIR) Post #AFAkS5Cup1kBOaMqn2 by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:51:54.417112Z
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your fundamental problem is that with one potential exception all the actions of body, speech, and mind that would fall under the category of "sin" are also proscribed as for example in the canonical list of the ten non-virtuous actions including killing, speaking falsely, speaking divisively, sexual misconduct, and so onthe sole exception would be "belief in Jesus Christ" as some kind of abstract propositional statementin other words, you say hell is a consequence of negative actions, I agree. you stipulate to the specific negative actions, including malicious (etc.) mental states, and I agree. what you're proposing is that someone who lives by the rules we can both stipulate to, and purifies their mind of all selfish or otherwise negative tendencies and habits, is nevertheless damned to an eternity in hell because they are unwilling to assent to some propositional statementtrue or false?
(DIR) Post #AFAkWh3w1GUpxYMiUy by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:52:42.226443Z
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I agree it's fundamentally about ontology
(DIR) Post #AFAkYphsqosrLg4U5o by servant_of_the_anime_avatars@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-06T18:53:07.625961Z
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@sickburnbro @Insomnolant @Nike @LouisConde But look at LGBT Pastors, they certainly have a lot of faith, probably more in social justice than in Jesus Christ, but their faith is totally incoherent and contradictory. Reason prevents this.
(DIR) Post #AFAkbCMhZwHkCYI8zA by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:53:33.287563Z
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False. I don't assert that anyone escapes hell by following the rules because I don't assert that anyone can or could.
(DIR) Post #AFAkfkEzZVg4QIqy7U by sickburnbro@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:54:22.600784Z
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This is a very good point and I think reveals more carefully the difficulty of reason.
(DIR) Post #AFAkiBTlGuDHTpvObY by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:54:48.511530Z
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if hell is the result of not following the rules but also the result of following the rules then why bother following the rules?
(DIR) Post #AFAkm1OKidHpLvDQBc by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:55:30.535751Z
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I disagree. Pascal writes in his Pensees that the point isn't disingenuousness or insincerity as a "get out of jail free" card. It's more a matter of *seeking* this religion out and *deciding* that one wants to believe in it.In other words, if there is any probability of this particular religion to be true, and the consequences of it being true are so stark in comparison to any other system of belief (I am of the opinion that Pascal used atheism as an example, not a restrictive either-or), then which life and faith you pursue ought to be informed by these consequences. It's not bad faith for someone to say they seek Christ out of self interest, even if they have trouble believing at the start.
(DIR) Post #AFAkr7wdmUUV7phHX6 by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:56:25.997740Z
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Faith in Christ isn't merely a propositional statement. Further, doing good doesnt negate doing bad. Curing cancerAIDS doesn't negate that hooker i killed behind an Arby's in Wichita in 1992, for instance.
(DIR) Post #AFAksWvaNeLCtksAT2 by sickburnbro@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:56:40.625815Z
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They certainly have a lot of faith, more than most christian pastors have nowadays it seems. I would argue that their faith has a lot of reason, and that's in part why we were here, because reason was unable to prevent this descent into madness.
(DIR) Post #AFAkubD3QqMyl01vSy by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:57:02.351943Z
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"rule following", which kind of cheapens the nature of sanctification, but I'll let it ride as terminology is about worship of the law giver and demonstration of a changed life and renewed mind. Its not about earning rewards and escaping punishment.
(DIR) Post #AFAkxumx5ttMLhOzNg by RoyalJohnny242@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:57:39.394137Z
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They probably processed her into Arby’s meat so it wasn’t wasteful? I guess?
(DIR) Post #AFAl7YCRvw0xBevHVY by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:59:20.036464Z
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none of this addresses any of what I said, with the partial exception of "faith in Christ" not being "merely" propositional, but we can table that for nowthe more pressing matter is your basic lack of understanding as to my position. to wit: actions may or may not "negate" each other. actions cause effects. suffering is the result of non-virtuous action. happiness is the result of virtuous action. these effects may or may not partially or in whole somehow offset each other, but that is entirely irrelevant to the question here.now, would you like to respond to what I actually said?
(DIR) Post #AFAl9zJ47e1npuBCHg by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T18:59:50.043416Z
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You're assuming the Wager is the only argument ever offered ever, which is patently untrue. You also assume that new believers can't look further into the truth claims of Christianity and find they made a better choice than they initially thought. Your argument also begs the question in favor of unbelief when you call Pascal's Wager "cynical."
(DIR) Post #AFAlCzXhhWFtRASVvM by sickburnbro@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:00:23.090530Z
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This is also the kind of thing that leads people to say "this is why people shouldn't learn to read"And I get how they are feeling. I think this is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.But I'm going to tell you, if that baby turns its head around all the way and has glowing eyes and says "join us", that baby's going out with the bathwater.
(DIR) Post #AFAlDlHkCA0fVZMRiC by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:00:31.409315Z
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it may not be "about" those things but those are explicit goals, no?
(DIR) Post #AFAlPCPjfeg4pfYL6O by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:02:34.100253Z
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Because God gave them to us
(DIR) Post #AFAlSTBDnAgdhRK7A8 by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:03:10.891420Z
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ok but in this hypothetical God is damning you whether you follow the rules or not
(DIR) Post #AFAlWVfgTHbEaJUyLw by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:03:54.736354Z
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You asked if i agreed with a true or false statement. I pointed out your framing of the question is incorrect
(DIR) Post #AFAlanLgglemZKBl7A by PorkCow@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-06T19:04:41.508154Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Godcast @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @Robert_Edwardly @Senpai-kun @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran If you hypothetically followed all the rules you'd go to Heaven. No human has been perfect except Jesus, though.
(DIR) Post #AFAlfokau9N2MdEXc8 by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:05:35.535260Z
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OK, forget about propositional statements. replace "faith in Christ" with whatever formulation is acceptable to you. what changes? how does this affect the argument?
(DIR) Post #AFAliHtPWeKhKHXF68 by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:06:01.971277Z
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Yes, following God's law is the right thing to do even if we were condemned.
(DIR) Post #AFAlj6ypaFyJlrSn7w by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T19:06:11.417825Z
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@Godcast @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @PorkCow @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran There is no Pascal's Wager without ceding the presupposition of truth, albeit temporarily and only for the sake of argument. There is no wager when you continue to argue for the presupposition. There's no point in offering a "what if" selection choice when you are still going with "it is."Pascal's Wager is a complete and total loser. It belongs in the garbage bin, or more appropriately the Talmud.
(DIR) Post #AFAljiK2kLvNaMfkpM by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:06:14.277805Z
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lmao
(DIR) Post #AFAlqpgHmkkcR3TFDs by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:07:35.059357Z
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Your parents brought you into this world knowing you'd die one day. They still love you, you still love them. The fact that you're condemned to death the moment you're born has no effect on the love you have for the people that gave you life.
(DIR) Post #AFAlvKR1NxJkyVTUfI by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:08:22.751399Z
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So what you're saying is, you prefer to bet on nonbelief and you hope you're right, but the wager bugs you so you're attacking it.
(DIR) Post #AFAlvXOJDLs99rJ0k4 by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T19:08:25.701625Z
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@Dadbolgainz @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @PorkCow @Robert_Edwardly @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran But your parents wouldn't condemn you to certain death if they could help it. I think. I hope.
(DIR) Post #AFAm1YilBOrT1Ik6u8 by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:09:31.184069Z
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It doesn't matter. It's the reality of our existence. We can't change the rules, so we figure out how to live in a way that conforms to the laws of nature (God's law).
(DIR) Post #AFAm44LmYZAphDBxkO by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:09:58.596334Z
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that's all nice but also metaphorical and irrelevant. we're not talking about the bittersweetness of life or whatever we're talking about an eternity of unfathomable torment. and we're talking about "following the rules" even when it literally makes no difference whatsoever (again, this is in the stipulated hypothetical) as to whether your rule-following will get you out of this tormentthat's absolutely sadistic
(DIR) Post #AFAm49gWirjqEzw6HA by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T19:09:59.616457Z
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@SuperLutheran @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @PorkCow @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon There is no preference because belief is not a selection choice on a menu of options. That is the other significant problem with Pascal's Wager - one does not simply will oneself into believing unproven claims about the nature of the universe.
(DIR) Post #AFAmFHRUDlh3UACpd2 by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:11:59.296350Z
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The only thing we know about "hell" is that it is a separation from God. We do our best to live according to God's law and repent for our sins in the hope we avoid that punishment. I don't see how that's sadistic.
(DIR) Post #AFAmJRNVDpo1SWKIEq by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:12:45.114982Z
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It's not about willing oneself to believe or not, it is about seeking belief, and what one chooses to seek. That most definitely *is* a choice, and you're saying - especially with that "unproven" presupposition - that you've placed your bet but you're unhappy that you had to. It's okay to admit it man, it sounds like a bad feel.
(DIR) Post #AFAmOljYy1X42VBZRI by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T19:13:43.173353Z
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@Dadbolgainz @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @PorkCow @Robert_Edwardly @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran Nature sucks. Most of it is inhospitable and animals are almost always sadistic sociopaths without our guidance. Making nature conform to civilization has been our greatest gift to this world.
(DIR) Post #AFAmPaV8DRI9UVpGWe by DeadlyTurtle@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:13:51.951657Z
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I think theres elements to this that are beyond man's comprehension. We need God's grace to gain eternal salvation and theres a certain way we must think and act in order to live in that grace.
(DIR) Post #AFAmQA45zR3Xn5SBNo by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:13:56.061306Z
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The argument presupposes "a balance of deeds" view of morality where doing enough good negates, or makes up for any bad you've done. This isnt the case. Doing good is good, but we are still condemned by our sins. Faith in Christ is a confession of whose side you're on (among other things) and if you're not with God, you're against Him. Why shouldn't God condemn His self-declared enemies?
(DIR) Post #AFAmWWnmMrhs2rrEI4 by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:15:07.226831Z
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On what grounds is it "sadistic"?
(DIR) Post #AFAmYh6B3W2mYjUoZU by James10550088@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:15:30.735232Z
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Dropping a comment so i can mute. Sorry Louis.
(DIR) Post #AFAmZ8xHUBZ4xFY6am by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T19:15:35.218311Z
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@SuperLutheran @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @PorkCow @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon You can't put the word "proven" in sarcasm quotes if faith is a major component of your practice. Either faith is a virtue or it is not.
(DIR) Post #AFAma2IRjCAuaosHia by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:15:45.240661Z
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>The argument presupposes "a balance of deeds" view of morality where doing enough good negates, or makes up for any bad you've doneit explicitly does not, as I was at pains to state multiple times upthread: "may or may not offset" and so onthere's a whole soteriology here where this becomes even more explicit in terms of mere "good karma" not being enough to attain liberation, but it's not possible to have that discussion until you stop misrepresenting and inventing my arguments
(DIR) Post #AFAmbstbeNdW158ZSy by James10550088@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:16:04.984819Z
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The hellthread not Louis
(DIR) Post #AFAmg4yYgC5KdjSCHY by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:16:50.762414Z
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it's sadistic (and extremely stupid) to expect someone to follow a rule once it's already been definitively decided that the consequences for not following the rules will be applied whether the rules are followed or not
(DIR) Post #AFAmgG0jeRMWrfYahc by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:16:52.728508Z
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A very enlightened response. Hopefully in the next reincarnation of this discussion you'll have something more substantial
(DIR) Post #AFAmiAsLiOMVW7Y4eW by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:17:13.521365Z
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On what grounds?
(DIR) Post #AFAmj4H3kDo9KgX5Iu by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:17:23.202352Z
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on the grounds on not being a sadistic psychopath
(DIR) Post #AFAmjgvS2UhFCxisXQ by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:17:29.997589Z
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I feel like it was somehow skipped over that the hypothetical of "but if you follow the rules you'll still be damned" is completely irrelevant because the standard is perfect sinlessness, and no one but Christ has done that. I have no idea why we're arguing over a hypothetical that presupposes a pelagian anthropology.
(DIR) Post #AFAmpoQP4PeOCi7Rtw by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:18:36.193324Z
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Maybe I can, maybe I can't. But either way, the point still stands: the wager bugs you because you don't like the implications, and the fact that no one can escape having to take a bet here.
(DIR) Post #AFAmq6reVq8tOR0SsC by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:18:39.527735Z
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because by Myles allowing the argument on this ground I've already won, only he's not quite as bright as you so he doesn't understand this
(DIR) Post #AFAmtgEJTsaDwiJBNQ by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:19:18.325102Z
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Don't be mean to Myles dk
(DIR) Post #AFAmv7JiG0miFEWFeK by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:19:33.581059Z
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Accepting Christ and repentance of your sins is all that is required for salvation.
(DIR) Post #AFAmwg9SEFDMZVSvcu by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:19:48.669525Z
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>the wager bugs you because you don't like the implicationsno, the wager doesn't "bug" me at all in fact. I tend to agree with Christians who think it is best relegated to the apologetic scrapheap
(DIR) Post #AFAn00S1DESwOjjfA8 by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:20:25.468550Z
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Remaking someone into a bettle because they called ghandi a nigger is sadistic
(DIR) Post #AFAn5X7fAQzJAvqkYS by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:21:26.759636Z
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Under Christianity you can live a life completely free of sinful actions, give away all your money to help people in need, never hurt a fly, hell you could just sit in a room with food and water until you die meditating for 70 years without thinking anything bad, but if you don't believe the Jesus story and beg a dead Jew on a stick from 2000 years ago for forgiveness because some woman ate fruit given to her by a talking snake, you are punished the same as a guy who raped and murdered thousands of children in his basement. In fact that guy can go to heaven if he sincerely repents and accepts jesus at the last minute before he dies.
(DIR) Post #AFAn6ZYTboSp0ct4Ea by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:21:38.053224Z
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it's not. what I'm calling "sadistic" is the hypothetical where someone who has already been damned is still being expected to follow the rules
(DIR) Post #AFAn9vmrPJYkpTDUX2 by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:22:13.416800Z
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Oh they can say it belongs in the garbage, but all of them took Pascal's advice in spite of their apologetic preferences. It's like a game that you have to play as soon as you hear of it, there's no no going around it.
(DIR) Post #AFAnAKK0BkKWvCuIWO by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:22:18.785766Z
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You havent "won" anything. You beg the question in favor of the hypothetical being "cruel and sadistic" but never bothered to substantiate that idea.
(DIR) Post #AFAnC65y3KSpNXBduy by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:22:38.025151Z
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You have a clear and easy path to salvation, why not just follow it? Instead you're revolting against they very being that gave you life. It's very simple.
(DIR) Post #AFAnCGIO80LD0x4hfM by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T19:22:39.814344Z
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@SuperLutheran @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @PorkCow @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon No, there is no "maybe" about it. If you get offended about a doctrine of faith being classified as unproven, then you are at odds with the concept of faith. Faith requires unproven claims, or else it would just be material observation. You can't have it both ways.
(DIR) Post #AFAnF8PHulcnPtfj8K by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:23:10.550578Z
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Because I would rather burn in hell forever than beg forgiveness from a worthless fucking KIKE.
(DIR) Post #AFAnFCntZDgX3NDR2m by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:23:11.704090Z
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>Under Christianity you can live a life completely free of sinful actionsNo, you can't.
(DIR) Post #AFAnI40QjXskdVRRei by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:23:42.548284Z
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Perhaps.The wager is still upsetting you tho.
(DIR) Post #AFAnJDJhbMU7nq0L3I by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T19:23:55.187595Z
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@Dadbolgainz @LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @PorkCow @Robert_Edwardly @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran Presupposition of truth.
(DIR) Post #AFAnJTcMzivMMMrTN2 by Zealist@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:23:57.622614Z
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that's kinda the point of Jesus you can't nobody can do it.
(DIR) Post #AFAnJuBMEGMMkPQmW0 by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:24:02.677293Z
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There are levels of punishment and reward in Christian eschatology, so you're wrong. Also, the kike on a stick guys hang out in this area over here (not this thread).
(DIR) Post #AFAnKg7S05ktQByL5c by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:24:11.066708Z
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Living a life free of sin isn't possible, which is why God gave his only son to atone for our sins. God gave us an out, specifically because he understood that we men aren't capable of living up to his expectations.
(DIR) Post #AFAnKwxnNF8JfAaMts by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:24:13.986628Z
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Then you fundamentally misunderstand the nature of ultimate authority
(DIR) Post #AFAnP3VF0CoD6SBfIO by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T19:24:58.560067Z
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@SuperLutheran @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @PorkCow @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon I've made it crystal clear that I have contempt for the cynical, Jewish nature of Pascal's Wager, yes. Only a Jew thinks he can trick God.
(DIR) Post #AFAnPHBu6texYXFQ6C by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:25:00.544236Z
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Alright bud, you're super edgy and I'm a pagan now. You win, you can leave now.
(DIR) Post #AFAnSbZmm7AFeG0OvI by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:25:36.980294Z
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Do you believe gravity will still work five minutes from now?
(DIR) Post #AFAnT2IhPkXWX5DdXU by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:25:39.368982Z
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I guess my point is, this is why I put it in terms of "convince me of your cosmology" which is a slightly grug way of getting at "convince me of your ontology." I say causes have effects and when the cause runs out the effect runs out. I say painful experiences are the results of negative or non-virtuous actions. I say hell is a very painful experience that is similarly and by extension the result of non-virtuous actions. I say when the effect of any one particular non-virtuous action is experienced, that particular non-virtuous action is not by itself the cause of any further suffering.convince me otherwise
(DIR) Post #AFAnUi1xkSwmFIBjtI by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T19:25:59.576290Z
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@Dadbolgainz @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @PorkCow @Robert_Edwardly @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran Why did God only have one son, anyway? Is he some a Boomer or what?
(DIR) Post #AFAnXQuLroHA0cvXzU by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:26:26.387503Z
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I'm not being edgy, I believe what I said with 100% conviction sincerely and with more passion in my heart than you have felt from anything in your entire life.
(DIR) Post #AFAncM6z7ubga8BRWi by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:27:20.046401Z
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Well, technically, all believers are sons and daughters of God. But there's only one, unique, monogenes. There's only one "only begotten". Which is because of the nature of God, which is to say, triune.
(DIR) Post #AFAncxEN7PV5hkvMg4 by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:27:26.290060Z
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Too bad you still had to place a bet, huh?
(DIR) Post #AFAnevB3ixLBuoJRS4 by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:27:47.106135Z
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He sent a part of himself to earth, to live as a man. The ultimate sacrifice. As he lived as a man he suffered unfathomable humiliation. God brought a part of him down to our level. That is huge.
(DIR) Post #AFAngCbiPCbUGMOLT6 by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:28:00.988485Z
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You're not authorized to speak for what people in this thread are passionate about guy.
(DIR) Post #AFAnhTh6MWqvXwWGKe by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:28:17.864890Z
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Wow, Odin is proud I'm sure.
(DIR) Post #AFAnimv4Mv9dSig3qi by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:28:31.955968Z
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He called into question the sincerity I believe, so i did the same. Eye for an Eye.
(DIR) Post #AFAnjS2FV8G6yrLsES by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:28:39.687440Z
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That's partialism Patrick. He sent himself. Undivided and one in essence.
(DIR) Post #AFAnn0YRcEjSuQ6gxU by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:29:18.274142Z
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FatherSonHoly spiritAll one and all three at the same time
(DIR) Post #AFAnoBnXIZBC4MjH7I by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:29:29.854313Z
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I think we just would prefer it if you didnt rush in here and call our belief system stupid and evil when it's off topic.Seems like a small ask.
(DIR) Post #AFAnqLRWPTBsYtSaPI by DeadlyTurtle@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:29:53.363514Z
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Dont be a bitch, DK. Myles is arguing with you in good faith and he showed you respect, you should do the same to him.
(DIR) Post #AFAnqNXGd4yV3IACdk by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:29:53.927474Z
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the idea doesn't need any substantiation, if you can't see the problem with expecting people to follow rules even though there is literally no benefit to them then there is no point in engaging further
(DIR) Post #AFAnrqfDogPNgJaLAm by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:30:08.454262Z
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Well, first, all the proof for a cosmology sits squarely with the Standard model. Ie no multiverse, no reincarnation, etc. Secondly, you fail to distinguish between different kinds of causation. Third, you're smuggling a moral supposition into a statement of causality in your last paragraph
(DIR) Post #AFAnsqtYRUiEgilf7Y by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:30:21.260072Z
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Why should I treat your beliefs with reverence when Christians never treat my beliefs with reverence in kind?
(DIR) Post #AFAnumHQZVW4xDquLw by Chance@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:30:42.451426Z
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because your beliefs are gay
(DIR) Post #AFAnwS0guDvKfQp0hk by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:31:00.153283Z
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No ones asking for reverence nnnnguy, we're asking for you to not find threads about Christianity and raid them.
(DIR) Post #AFAnxGvpa3L6b7wLi4 by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:31:09.438977Z
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Thank you for proving my point.
(DIR) Post #AFAnyZSu9vKWMs1tMu by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:31:23.581271Z
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>you're smuggling a moral supposition into a statement of causality in your last paragraphwhich supposition? why does it matter? so what?
(DIR) Post #AFAnzwNWSCWvinAIHQ by Chance@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:31:36.047943Z
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bad, immoral, and incorrect beliefs do not deserve reverence. simple as. case closed.
(DIR) Post #AFAo0YxJ1bjTMmCPKa by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T19:31:45.243417Z
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@Robert_Edwardly @LorgarAurelian1488 @Dadbolgainz @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @PorkCow @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran They cry out in offense as they proselytize to you.
(DIR) Post #AFAo3xY62lwKVh1kpc by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:32:16.263531Z
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I WANT TO GO BACK TO TALKING ABOUT ONTOLOGY AAHHHHHHHHHHHH
(DIR) Post #AFAo4ukXw7xI7OJ1vc by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:32:31.788905Z
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(DIR) Post #AFAo6CpyAnpOVNSUUK by sickburnbro@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:32:46.095662Z
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guys, it's thursday, and this is where I'm checking out.
(DIR) Post #AFAo6xVMfEGxF5BCOe by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:32:54.542142Z
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go for it
(DIR) Post #AFAo7PGRSIyNKuPg1Y by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:32:59.169464Z
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I agree, which is why I am not a Christian. You can't even take 2 seconds of mild criticim without acting like whiny Jews and spirit queers.
(DIR) Post #AFAo7XC7yEH7vqSLPU by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T19:33:00.853285Z
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@Robert_Edwardly @LorgarAurelian1488 @Dadbolgainz @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @PorkCow @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran It's a public platform. There is no special rule that only you get to talk, that a thread's topic cannot shift, or that anyone has to be extra specially respectful to you in particular.
(DIR) Post #AFAoB6031QvWkNVJlQ by Chance@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:33:39.396102Z
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im sorry youre wrong about everything
(DIR) Post #AFAoBF4HJ4ess6YK6i by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:33:41.013590Z
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Which of us popped into who's mentions, dweeb?
(DIR) Post #AFAoDQ8t6TYnnUkPXE by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:34:04.161433Z
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>kike on a stick>Mild criticism
(DIR) Post #AFAoJOKik6sBvL85Lc by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T19:35:09.423892Z
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@Robert_Edwardly @LorgarAurelian1488 @Chance @Dadbolgainz @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @PorkCow @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran Every scratch is the deepest of wounds.
(DIR) Post #AFAoJpUZlZnc9iwpxQ by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:35:11.289286Z
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I've completely lost my point. I'll post something coherent when I've regathered it
(DIR) Post #AFAoMF5FaYfW6cFjJA by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:35:40.016205Z
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I was enjoying a (mostly) civil discussion with people I respect.
(DIR) Post #AFAoOxkWUfVPDGr3xo by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:36:06.039452Z
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You are right I apologize. It's actually 2 sticks tied together. Like are you mad that Jesus is a Jew? Are you denying he was nailed to some sticks? Like why do you find this so problematic?
(DIR) Post #AFAoQbPoVBXwWZwxqS by Chance@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:36:27.506672Z
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>jesus was a jewwrong
(DIR) Post #AFAoTSmz1yFadh9T28 by RoyalJohnny242@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:36:57.805859Z
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FRENS NO FIIIIIIIIGGGHHHHTTTTT
(DIR) Post #AFAoVr1zs0COP7JXyy by Nocturn_Adrift@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:37:24.535312Z
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>In fact that guy can go to heaven if he sincerely repents and accepts jesus at the last minute before he dies.Don't be fooled: God will know if a repentance is genuine or not. But know that God will judge all in equal fashion. Those who follow his commandments better are rewarded better in the afterlife.I would recommend reading these:>2nd Conrinthians 5:10Judgement is still based on both the good and bad we have done.>1st Peter 4:17The Christian is not exempt from judgement>Romans 2:2-11God is impartial and treats all under the same system>Ezekiel 18:21-24God states that He looks at people as they are, not who they are.>Hebrews 6:4-6If a Christian doesn't turn from his sins, God has nothing else to offer. He has rejected Christ. He has essentially crucified himself instead of Christ.
(DIR) Post #AFAoWIoUZo28ZLD9ou by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:37:29.345790Z
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Oh so you are saying Jesus was not a Jew, well you might want to have a word with literally every other Christian outside of online far right sperg websites.
(DIR) Post #AFAoYDg6dl27DnCdlo by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:37:49.083081Z
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My friend, kindly leave.
(DIR) Post #AFAoYFczOJjDGhlBBo by Chance@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:37:49.688354Z
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dont care faggot lol
(DIR) Post #AFAoagOgpn0ms5EOMi by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:38:16.899097Z
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>I say when the effect of any one particular non-virtuous action is experienced, that particular non-virtuous action is not by itself the cause of any further suffering.This is an "ought" statement. "I say when the effect of any one particular non-virtuous action is experienced, that particular non-virtuous action *ought* not by itself be the cause of any further suffering." This is the way you *think* it should be (and I'm inclined to agree), but observably isn't. Negative effects of harmful causes can, and observably do, long outlast their causes.
(DIR) Post #AFAocKbep5zVrq5Bjs by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:38:29.011328Z
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man I'm not entirely unsympathetic to your deal but this is just about the worst possible way to pursue your point, it's needlessly antagonistic and for no benefit
(DIR) Post #AFAoepz58FpJlNEaGm by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:38:58.537164Z
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it is not an "ought" statement. where did I say that it is? you're inventing again.
(DIR) Post #AFAogVtgmnJA2lVkIq by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:39:20.113896Z
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This is why I said "you're smuggling in a moral proposition."
(DIR) Post #AFAohaJ9s8tg0rw1AG by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:39:31.242938Z
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how so?
(DIR) Post #AFAoiHmOFKpUpywTCK by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:39:39.052083Z
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Sorry I'm in a bad headspace from making a twitter account and arguing with libtards until I get banned on Jan 6th lol. I should be more civil among friends. I've also been drinking lol.
(DIR) Post #AFAok3T2Qgi51ojZJ2 by rikkatakarada@gearlandia.haus
2022-01-06T19:39:58.386275Z
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@Chance @PorkCow @DK_Dharmaraj @Dadbolgainz @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LorgarAurelian1488 @LouisConde @Robert_Edwardly @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran @shitgrifter @Senpai-kun Jesus was, in fact, a jewish man. Just because he was the messiah for christianity does not take away the fact that he was a jew.
(DIR) Post #AFAom8rzJYJiMYOobY by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:40:20.583891Z
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happy Insurrection Day, plz do not antagonize le Christians lol
(DIR) Post #AFAopS5uIKG4r5UKGG by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:40:56.287638Z
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Amazing this started a religion hellthread somehow lol
(DIR) Post #AFAoqByjhJr3AAUFTE by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:41:04.710990Z
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Because you made a statement of how you think things should be, not now they actually are. As I pointed out, the negative effects of harmful actions continue long after their causes cease.
(DIR) Post #AFAoseZsL1sWRN23Si by AnimeTradCath@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:41:31.626200Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Dadbolgainz @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @PorkCow @Robert_Edwardly @Senpai-kun @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran your premise is wrong for Men don't act like Saints without Faith in Christ that leads them to become a Saint.
(DIR) Post #AFAou3iOMbNugygaJc by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:41:45.080630Z
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Shit really makes me want to just put the fedora back on
(DIR) Post #AFAoyOKFfwuTm0SbXE by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T19:42:34.012795Z
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@AnimeTradCath @LorgarAurelian1488 @DK_Dharmaraj @Dadbolgainz @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @PorkCow @Robert_Edwardly @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran @shitgrifter In other words, only devout Christians are ever morally good people.
(DIR) Post #AFAp0UaNN73Flf0JiS by Chance@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:42:56.175817Z
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Wrong
(DIR) Post #AFAp0tu5EyfcI1PuPA by AR-15@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:43:00.729209Z
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Yeah lmao. I had a dream once that I sent out a mass text to my friends that was simply this image and telling them to Google "Orthodox Gigachad" and the next day they all converted. Wish I could do that with Poast just so I don't have to see these kinds of threads anymore.
(DIR) Post #AFAp460IhzI8gdqfaK by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:43:35.808896Z
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for the third time: this is not a statement of "how I think things should be." it is a statement of how things are. your assertion that things are somehow otherwise is ludicrous and does not carry any weight because your example is invalid. the negative effects of harmful actions do not "continue long after their causes cease." they produce effects, which effects are in turn the causes of second-order effects, which are in turn the causes of third-order effects, and so on
(DIR) Post #AFApACZTCk1anBD5sm by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:44:42.051439Z
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He's exactly right. Jesus was jewish. That's really not up for debate. If you want to make a tangential point about how the jews today aren't the same ethnic group as the jews in Judea two thousand years ago, go for it, but Jesus was a jew.
(DIR) Post #AFApAmO22kGXs88T3I by MeBigbrain@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:44:48.257754Z
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Not respecting pagans is part of Christian doctrine.
(DIR) Post #AFApCR9jwt2CbdF0Zk by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:45:03.342358Z
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It's all good
(DIR) Post #AFApFV5jm0j9gEpUiO by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:45:38.905899Z
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>judging a religion based on which made-up version of the afterlife is better or worse>If you are not a follower of assrapism then after you die you get excruciatingly assraped for all eternity. With retarded thinking like this is it any wonder that the White man allowed the material world to go to shit, in order to secure his place in this phony jewish-constructed afterlife?
(DIR) Post #AFApIOOj7JH9my5gfI by Crankenstein@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-06T19:46:10.783964Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @PorkCow @Chance @DK_Dharmaraj @Dadbolgainz @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @Robert_Edwardly @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran @shitgrifter @Senpai-kun Jews are descendents of Judah which Jesus is not.
(DIR) Post #AFApJN7TM4ie77UGjw by rikkatakarada@gearlandia.haus
2022-01-06T19:46:21.439705Z
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@Chance @PorkCow @DK_Dharmaraj @Dadbolgainz @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LorgarAurelian1488 @LouisConde @Robert_Edwardly @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran @shitgrifter @Senpai-kun then what do you suggest he was? he wasn’t christian, because christianity did not exist at that point.
(DIR) Post #AFApKmT6asiX1PHH2O by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:46:36.692570Z
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Too bad it doesn't say anything about not respecting niggers.
(DIR) Post #AFApP0uop2YqzEG6bo by Crankenstein@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-06T19:47:22.650706Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @PorkCow @Chance @DK_Dharmaraj @Dadbolgainz @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @Robert_Edwardly @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran @shitgrifter @Senpai-kun I have no idea where the notion of Jesus being a Jew comes from but it is a point only christ-cucks believe.
(DIR) Post #AFApVsZyDN0R9vmTFw by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T19:48:37.117120Z
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@HyperboreanWave @SuperLutheran @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @PorkCow @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon >hyperboreanwave has joined the partyWe have all done this to ourselves. It is time for us to reflect and repent.
(DIR) Post #AFApXtafQSpusI4ICG by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:48:58.971340Z
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No, it's a statement of you you *think* things are. Much like your assertion that condmenation to hell is "sadistic," you haven't bothered to substantiate your assertion.Whoa, let's pump the brakes. Last time we talked you denied "[causes] produce effects, which effects are in turn the causes of second-order effects, which are in turn the causes of third-order effects, and so on" was the case, insisting that any effect has a *necessary cause.* If causes can go out of being, they aren't necessary for obvious reasons.
(DIR) Post #AFApb7PaUkoIbqQGh6 by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:49:33.887304Z
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Neither did Paul, but he identified himself as a jew.
(DIR) Post #AFApcu359JlJkBkMWe by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:49:53.213035Z
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You ever have one of those days where you just want to argue with everyone and get into a flow state, and you see an argument you want to jump into and piss people off. Well I'm having one of those days. The level of pearl clutching and sanctamonious bullshit i've seen today has worked me up into a fervourouse rage. Sorry for derailing your civil discourse.
(DIR) Post #AFApejFkG62AqBXZS4 by Chance@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:50:12.987748Z
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Trans-jew 🤔
(DIR) Post #AFApiIRPszgUqNhVpI by Crankenstein@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-06T19:50:51.713657Z
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@Godcast @PorkCow @Chance @DK_Dharmaraj @Dadbolgainz @Donald_McRonald @LorgarAurelian1488 @LouisConde @Robert_Edwardly @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran @shitgrifter @Senpai-kun In which verse?
(DIR) Post #AFApkA4NywBfSXol28 by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:51:11.469063Z
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I'm not the one cheering for my supposed "brothers in Christ" to get viciously murdered over a petty theological dispute like the christian in the OP. I don't think any White people, even White traitors, should be tortured by our enemies.
(DIR) Post #AFApkdLl7QJcGpAXdg by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:51:15.352640Z
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I never said that "condemnation to hell" is sadistic. what I said was sadistic was expecting people to follow the rules even when it is already a done deal that they are going to hell>Whoa, let's pump the brakes. Last time we talked you denied "[causes] produce effects, which effects are in turn the causes of second-order effects, which are in turn the causes of third-order effects, and so on" was the case, insisting that any effect has a *necessary cause.* If causes can go out of being, they aren't necessary for obvious reasonswould you care to rephrase this word salad?
(DIR) Post #AFApnBb8kwV34Ha3Y8 by AGARTHA_NOBLE@goyim.app
2022-01-06T19:51:43.984595Z
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@shitgrifter @LouisConde unless it's not really religious, but a cover for ethnic conflict.
(DIR) Post #AFApoBBPmglG4S1O3k by WalrusAurelius@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T19:51:55.165480Z
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@Senpai-kun @PorkCow @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @ShtPoastAnon @shitgrifter The biggest part: It assumes that you can convincingly lie to an omniscient being. It's one thing to tell someone who wants to be a part of the Faith but doesn't feel anything to "fake it till ya make it" as encouragement to stick with it, it's another to suggest to someone "just lie and say you believe things and you'll get to Paradise", which is what Pascal's Wager says and why I have not used it in any real argument.
(DIR) Post #AFApp3McLFoA6pg61A by Chance@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:52:02.341477Z
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The Jews made it up to derail Christianity
(DIR) Post #AFAppAuCInpPV0RVpY by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:52:03.446254Z
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gotquestions.org/was-Paul-a-Jew.html
(DIR) Post #AFAptwJDzy8Dg3QAIS by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:52:57.435055Z
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Respectfully what is your cope for John 19:3
(DIR) Post #AFApvRGcNoIzytute4 by loghdub@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:53:14.152633Z
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So, Super and Myles may disagree on some of this but,Myles' statement sounds a lot less cruel / retarded when it's understood that "God's Law" is essentially dharma because God isn't the Jade Emperor ruling from a cloud throne but is the source and order of all things. Furthermore, while there is a legal component to sin, there is a karmic nature to it that usually gets neglected, especially in Protestant and some Catholic understandings of it (as their soteriology is almost entirely legalistic in nature). Like in Genesis, when God says don't eat from the tree of knowledge or you'll die, He doesn't say "or I'll kill you", He says you'll die. The mortality that came from eating the fruit was partially a punishment, but also a natural consequence of adharmic actions (and it was a mercy, but that's another topic).Which leads to hell. Death by Holiness is a thing showcased and warned about in the OT quite a lot. If you're corrupt, the unhidden presence of God is going to hurt. Actually, it'll kill you. But at the end of all things where death is done away with, you can't actually die and God is no longer withdrawing Himself from anything or from anyone - because in the beginning that's how it was supposed to be. Hell is basically then perpetual death by holiness. Whether or not that coincides with some cosmographic isolation idfk.
(DIR) Post #AFApxOXpTYy87Jtqls by rikkatakarada@gearlandia.haus
2022-01-06T19:53:35.078838Z
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@Chance @PorkCow @Crankenstein @DK_Dharmaraj @Dadbolgainz @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LorgarAurelian1488 @LouisConde @Robert_Edwardly @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran @shitgrifter @Senpai-kun if you said the romans, it almost would have made sense.
(DIR) Post #AFAq0whgvhZsvcCpge by loghdub@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:54:13.920278Z
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Oh, missed the important part. tl;dr Christ saves you from your karma because if He didn't there's a lot of demonic buttfucking to go around.
(DIR) Post #AFAq3MFWvEB8jiBScK by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:54:39.801265Z
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sure I get all this, and thank you for it. my thing here is more, specifically, that Pascal's Wager is terrible apologetics
(DIR) Post #AFAq6DpSgZ5hUPM9hI by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:55:11.161108Z
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Maybe because he is referred to as "King of The Jews" in the Gospel of John. I'm fairly certain this whole descendant of Judah thing is a cope for Christians who want to reconcile their anti-semitism with being saved by a Jew.
(DIR) Post #AFAq6qQfAhQZCn3OxU by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T19:55:17.997335Z
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@HyperboreanWave @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @PorkCow @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran What if our enemies want to stick the vax in us?
(DIR) Post #AFAqAKAr2L7qKJJpJ2 by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:55:55.684135Z
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Lol facts
(DIR) Post #AFAqCRrFRJsGjjA24W by Crankenstein@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-06T19:56:18.635271Z
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@Godcast @PorkCow @Chance @DK_Dharmaraj @Dadbolgainz @Donald_McRonald @LorgarAurelian1488 @LouisConde @Robert_Edwardly @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran @shitgrifter @Senpai-kun That says he was from the tribe of Benjamin which was in the nation of Judah. Ergo, not a Jew.
(DIR) Post #AFAqF6vth8dKhvbZj6 by loghdub@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:56:47.550664Z
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I don't like the wager or for that matter Anselm's argument because they both reek of the kind of stuff the smug know-it-all at the philosophy club would say. Even if it seems logically put together, something seems fundamentally wrong and dishonest about it.
(DIR) Post #AFAqNAZW35p0JIylG4 by Svantovit@detroitriotcity.com
2022-01-06T19:58:13.017211Z
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@GodcastI wouldn't make that wager, given what we've seen the world plunge into over the last couple of years.Sounds like the next climate change phenomenon, tbh.@PorkCow @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran @shitgrifter @Senpai-kun
(DIR) Post #AFAqPwmZm2T4PcPcUi by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:58:44.871063Z
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I'll start fasting rn
(DIR) Post #AFAqR0IkAzoxcCxj9s by johnnyappleseed@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:58:56.568485Z
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I've heard you say something similar before: that without death human beings become evil or would very likely become evil given enough time (I can't remember exactly but was one of those two things). Is that what you meant by death being merciful?
(DIR) Post #AFAqRDBQHWgnZGdZ3I by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:58:58.355111Z
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Which is an assertion you never bothered to substantiate. On what grounds is it sadistic?Most of that "word salad" is a direct quote from you lol. Last time we talked, you explicitly asserted that existing effects have *necessary* causes. I even made sure we were on the same page when I asked you what you meant by "necessary," and you agreed that a necessary cause was a cause that must exist and couldn't not exist. Now you say that causes can go out of existence, which is in direct contradiction to said causes being necessary causes. If a cause can go out of existence, it's perfectly valid to posit that they didn't have to exist at all, making them contingent (i.e. unnecessary). Further, you bring up different levels of causation, which is a point I brought up to refute your assertion that all causes with effects are necessary before you bowed out of the conversation.
(DIR) Post #AFAqSaLzcUeLifEhpQ by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:59:12.885113Z
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Like all these people were literally related and so incestuous that the difference between the different tribes was less than the difference between Germans and Austrians.
(DIR) Post #AFAqSvX2say7P1ZKTI by Boomerman@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:59:16.219055Z
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Turns out christians just picked the fedora up and put it on themselves
(DIR) Post #AFAqVknPFj2OyRZMlk by Nocturn_Adrift@poa.st
2022-01-06T19:59:48.039453Z
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I think given the right context, the phrase:"Jesus isn't a 'jew'" isn't incorrect.As per Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9, this is meaningless. I think the question one needs to ask is:"What do you mean by 'jew'?"That is all that really needs to be said. Maybe a better version of the statement is:"Jesus isn't what *you* call the Jews."
(DIR) Post #AFAqVsC7kDy7v8Bhlg by Crankenstein@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-06T19:59:45.482004Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @PorkCow @Chance @DK_Dharmaraj @Dadbolgainz @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @Robert_Edwardly @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran @shitgrifter @Senpai-kun I don't know of a John 19:3.
(DIR) Post #AFAqX5hb0chu6SUOjg by RET394@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-06T20:00:02.563594Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @PorkCow @Crankenstein @Chance @DK_Dharmaraj @Dadbolgainz @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @Robert_Edwardly @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran @shitgrifter @Senpai-kun > with being saved by a Jew.wait. so is Jesus pro x or pro antivax?answer retarded #sodium @sodium
(DIR) Post #AFAqXWmUKXfC5RzBbs by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:00:06.617066Z
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The definition of "jew" had changed into a catch-all term for "hebrew" or "israelite" much as it has today. Paul says explicitly "I became a jew that I may preach to jews".
(DIR) Post #AFAqYJ6gekLDxznzl2 by loghdub@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:00:08.429185Z
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To the best of my knowledge, the teachings of the Fathers basically say that our mortality is also a mercy because our mortal nature allows us malleability. Unlike the angels, who are "stuck in their ways" as their nature as immortals is unchanging, for us, our mortality permits our redemption.
(DIR) Post #AFAqYUTQOY47DhWoE4 by Nocturn_Adrift@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:00:13.030742Z
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I think given the right context, the phrase:"Jesus isn't a 'jew'" isn't incorrect.As per Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9, this is meaningless. I think the question one needs to ask is:"What do you mean by 'jew'?"That is all that really needs to be said. Maybe a better version of the statement is:"Jesus isn't what *you* call 'the jews'."
(DIR) Post #AFAqZzcW4tb46pUsoC by loghdub@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:00:28.903561Z
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To the best of my knowledge, the teachings of the Fathers basically say that our mortality is also a mercy because our mortal nature allows us malleability. Unlike the other gods, who are "stuck in their ways" as their nature as immortals is unchanging, for us, our mortality permits our redemption.
(DIR) Post #AFAqi5LseSZMCbZgZc by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:02:01.736603Z
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I got into that explicitly when I mentioned that DK fails to understand the nature of ultimate authority.
(DIR) Post #AFAqkwVvy0mVf2diJk by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:02:32.767974Z
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The way they look to bitch and argue about anything does remind me a lot of 2010s militant atheists trolling Christians so basically yea
(DIR) Post #AFAqmPE0hpVyznxBVw by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:02:48.229241Z
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If you took Jesus Christ DNA and put it up against Ben Shapiro DNA I bet an entire Bitcoin it would have more in common than a white Englishman and a white Frenchman selected at random.
(DIR) Post #AFAqnN1gMnIwSweBd2 by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:02:59.094350Z
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I gotcha bro
(DIR) Post #AFAqoRuDi495tCffnc by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:03:10.747678Z
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It's pointless hair-splitting. There's really no getting around the fact that Jesus was a member of the same ethnicity that God chose as his people to carry out His will.
(DIR) Post #AFAqpoR5QeLa3Sh6gq by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:03:25.097495Z
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>If a cause can go out of existence, it's perfectly valid to posit that they didn't have to exist at all, making them contingent (i.e. unnecessary)noeffects are produced by causes. "when this arises, that arises; when this does not arise, that does not arise." you are playing a semantic game, conflating the "necessity" that a particular effect be produced by a particular cause, with the "necessity" that the cause exist. it is necessary for an effect to be produced by a cause. it is not necessary for that cause to exist at all times. in fact, it is logically contradictory. otherwise, future causes would cause past effects
(DIR) Post #AFAqxU23Ap9R5edpke by Boomerman@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:04:48.671281Z
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Now let me tell you about some spergy doctrinal bullshit that happened a 1000 years ago too show you just how christian i am
(DIR) Post #AFAr0ZHa6o40F8NQye by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:05:22.189245Z
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You're the one who agreed to the terminology we were using. Do you want to walk that back now?
(DIR) Post #AFAr8DBc96vu1tEMU4 by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:06:43.830500Z
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walk what back? the whole point of my earlier critique was to attack the idea of inherent existence
(DIR) Post #AFArBtkaLmNcuNLVeC by loghdub@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:07:24.978067Z
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The thread was jumbled so I didn't follow it well. That being said, the Ultimate Authority thing is something to be handled with care, I've found. It's too easy to do the calvinist thing where "muh sovereignty" becomes a theology-terminating-cliche that shuts down any examination of doctrine that should raise an eyebrow.
(DIR) Post #AFArDF5iUVbHNws3bk by philmchawk@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:07:39.636337Z
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My parents cannot change the laws of nature. The christian god supposedly can though.
(DIR) Post #AFArFrgVyLIDezKjSK by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:08:08.029630Z
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Ahem.Muh sovereignty.
(DIR) Post #AFArJJEa066PyJuRcm by TinTin@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:08:45.430224Z
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Hard endorse
(DIR) Post #AFArKimcUm1dV5VMGG by Nocturn_Adrift@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:09:00.604209Z
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How is it pointless?Jesus literally names the modern Jew out in Revelation 2:9 and Rev. 3:9 and calls them out as devil worshippers.>..I KNOW the blasphemy of those who say they are the Jews and are not, but ((THEY)) ARE a synagouge of Satan>Indeed, I will make ((THOSE)) of the synagouge of Satan, who say they are Jews and aren't, but lie—indeed I will male them come and worship before your feet, and know that I have loved you.
(DIR) Post #AFArLWeX57GWAU6bb6 by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:09:09.188030Z
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>he worships jewish myths>calls the beliefs of others gayBruh your god said that you need to give me all your money, get cracking bud
(DIR) Post #AFArMyQ7KPD8Zq3Mci by Boomerman@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:09:25.004681Z
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Muslims got it right with charlie hebdo. If christians had half the morale certainty of those guys shit wouldnt be so bad but theyre happy to endlessly argue with people who hate them and want them dead. Youll never convince the piss christ guy that jesus is legit by explaining the 12 tribes of isreal to him and how jesus isnt a kike.
(DIR) Post #AFArObKc8tozY1FtZI by philmchawk@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:09:42.777889Z
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Man you must really like youtube banning people who follow the rules. Leftists confirmed the real christians once again.
(DIR) Post #AFArQJSPZN2egticRE by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:10:01.044548Z
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Shouldn't you be kissing nigger feet?
(DIR) Post #AFArRCyZ9WRUsYBZh2 by LouisConde@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:10:07.107990Z
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Would it be too much to ask that the metaphysics argument be tabled? The autism was supposed to be directed outwards, not to start friendly fire.
(DIR) Post #AFArV2ApG04QXCkDCq by Nocturn_Adrift@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:10:52.552681Z
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How is it pointless?Jesus literally names the modern Jew out in Revelation 2:9 and Rev. 3:9 and calls them out as devil worshippers.>..I KNOW the blasphemy of those who say they are the Jews and are not, but ((THEY)) ARE a synagouge of Satan>Indeed, I will make ((THOSE)) of the synagouge of Satan, who say they are Jews and aren't, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and know that I have loved you.
(DIR) Post #AFArWw4Aw0reAkXZDs by philmchawk@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:11:10.810681Z
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>You have a clear and easy path to salvation, why not just follow it?If Mormons created super hell would you convert because it is worse than hell?
(DIR) Post #AFArZ4orMWdhtlOiJc by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:11:35.760343Z
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Hitler had the same observation more or less lel.
(DIR) Post #AFAra8LjiqYl8YHO5I by loghdub@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:11:45.663187Z
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It's too late
(DIR) Post #AFArd540Oc6zoYOJM0 by Crankenstein@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-06T20:12:19.691363Z
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@Eris @Chance @DK_Dharmaraj @Dadbolgainz @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LorgarAurelian1488 @LouisConde @PorkCow @Robert_Edwardly @Senpai-kun @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran @shitgrifter Okay, I looked it up. Mary was of the tribe of judah, so I was wrong. Egg on my face lol.
(DIR) Post #AFArfElXIKxUU4mSAa by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:12:42.723696Z
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If I engaged with you calmly and honestly would you stop drawing false equivocations?
(DIR) Post #AFArfYmcrziKZFRbe4 by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:12:45.629152Z
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Expecting people to get vaccinated for a health crisis isn't torture, but sure ya I don't think you should be forced to get this particular vaccine. In a Nazi state I would see no problem with forcefully vaccinating people for the good of the volk.
(DIR) Post #AFArgk3URjZxogtbZA by philmchawk@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:12:59.289201Z
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Of course we can, look at how Muslims react to their faith being humiliated vs chiristians. One clearly believes and are passionate while the other isn't. Hell bugmen react more outrageously than christians do when their shit is mocked.
(DIR) Post #AFAriftMtcmhU35DRw by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:13:20.431822Z
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The reason I lean towards the Jews today being basically the same Jews from 2000 years ago is that they haven't really changed all that much. Like who needs to be told not to sacrifice your children to Moloch like 6 times? Who even needs to be told once? Why do they need volumes of pages worth of rules telling you not to do sick and perverted shit that wouldn't even occur to anyone besides a disgusting fat Jew. This is my thought process on the matter.
(DIR) Post #AFAritrkwPoUp6R7se by Crankenstein@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-06T20:13:22.807823Z
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@Eris @Chance @DK_Dharmaraj @Dadbolgainz @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LorgarAurelian1488 @LouisConde @PorkCow @Robert_Edwardly @Senpai-kun @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran @shitgrifter Apparently I have a shit memory.
(DIR) Post #AFArmExayCTp79lDDk by Boomerman@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:13:59.116995Z
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Hitler was literally right about everything
(DIR) Post #AFArvcCvuEy7oyPAI4 by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:15:40.802640Z
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I don't think Jews were responsible for Mao, pol pot, the people who actually came up with moloch worship (it wasn't Jews) or john wayne gacy. I don't think they told nero to fuck castrated boys or marry a horse.
(DIR) Post #AFArwU1Rp9rqizRksy by philmchawk@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:15:49.182652Z
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It isn't a false equivocation and it is a legitimate question. In your mind hell is the worst thing ever, if another religion start "hell+" would you convert? Hell Mormons even believe in jesus so it wouldn't be heretical and you might even be able to convey covering both hell and hell+ because of that. So again I ask would you convert if Mormons had super hell? If the answer is no why would anyone convert to christianity because of hell?
(DIR) Post #AFAs0E9clOG4fX3Yq8 by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:16:30.452455Z
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Mormons don't believe in the correct Jesus.
(DIR) Post #AFAs2Ma6P1s1NsSZRA by RET394@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-06T20:16:26.112041Z
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@Crankenstein @Eris Crank that egg is where we live. No one can put it in your face.Its egg world. I watched that video 2yrs ago, when it was made, was first. Not schizo.Not the not first viewer.
(DIR) Post #AFAs3FTGKA4xcagNua by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:17:03.564476Z
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No, and your question shows how little you understand Christianity and religion as a whole.
(DIR) Post #AFAs4SKfzUm5ngF5RQ by johnnyappleseed@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:17:16.230222Z
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Well at least on poast and some parts of the fediverse you're probably NOT arguing with people who want you dead.But I agree that it would be better if Christians could develop a better firend-enemy-distinction.
(DIR) Post #AFAs82XnoTBOyg5hiq by philmchawk@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:17:55.525977Z
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Oh God, when Mormons outbreed christian to the point they have similar numbers we are going to have another 30 year war over this horseshit aren't we? But anyway you avoided the question.
(DIR) Post #AFAs98dUeK8iA1HD28 by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:18:07.425391Z
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>probably not arguing with people who want you dead.Correct, its always with a guy who basically has the exact same beliefs as them otherwise lol
(DIR) Post #AFAsBXcEkKfSDGpoGG by Crankenstein@kiwifarms.cc
2022-01-06T20:18:33.361743Z
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@RET394 @Eris Aren't you a bot?
(DIR) Post #AFAsCaGAOwdShe0bNw by dharmadudebro@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:18:44.475802Z
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From a theological standpoint the Jesus of the latter day saints is no different than Jesus of other protestants. the only differences is in terms of prophets/ other organizational elements of Mormonism.
(DIR) Post #AFAsEzAekllEXhZnyy by philmchawk@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:19:10.657697Z
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Then how can you possible believe hell and/or hell being super bad convinces anyone to be christian?
(DIR) Post #AFAsG1YHO0gWDV7Zgm by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T20:19:21.966621Z
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@philmchawk @Robert_Edwardly @Dadbolgainz @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LorgarAurelian1488 @LouisConde @PorkCow @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran Well to be fair he only avoided the premise. He did say no, so he wouldn't convert for super hell. He's just refusing to take that to its logical conclusion as to why fear of Hell wouldn't scare a nonbeliever into converting.
(DIR) Post #AFAsGHjrCjS8Q2f2xM by LouisConde@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:19:24.795872Z
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Narcissism of petty differences
(DIR) Post #AFAsIB80kjIEUprULg by Boomerman@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:19:38.310338Z
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9 times out of 10 theyre arguing with someone who will never ever believe in christ or Christianity. If youre explaining youre losing and sperging about the conference of niciea or how jesus wasnt actually a jew will never change that. You either believe or dont you cant be halfway christian you either have faith or dont.
(DIR) Post #AFAsIlIuFhOmh3EhKS by TinTin@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:19:44.219921Z
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Because they were/are the most disgusting, depraved race God could stomach not to utterly genocide. That's the reason they were 'chosen', that God would be glorified in a people who deserved most of all to be blotted out. And in the moment they still totally rejected him.
(DIR) Post #AFAsNNbDoRzAcg0MaG by TinTin@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:20:41.848358Z
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There *are* differences between the Judeans of Christ's era and the Jews of our modern age but there is definitely a continuity.
(DIR) Post #AFAsPPXLa1klD9A32O by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:21:02.609153Z
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Mormons don't believe in the Trinity and think Jesus is an exalted man, so no. Big no.
(DIR) Post #AFAsQ5oqNMhkLZfc8m by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:21:11.122252Z
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Make sure you gentiles give away all your money and live a life of poverty, also pay your taxes. Don't forget you can't get into heaven if you are rich. If Jews attack you, just keep being nice to them and do whatever they want and they will totally reciprocate eventually. ~Sermon on the mount, lazy Pagan speg summary~
(DIR) Post #AFAsQtHwRy5xm0f2nY by Boomerman@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:21:19.866959Z
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Its insecurity. Christianity is based on faith the whole point is you cant prove it so if youre constantly trying to prove it it just makes you look retarded.
(DIR) Post #AFAsS5bK9pZKFYIZHc by johnnyappleseed@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:21:32.753752Z
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It is funny how it be like that, because the trend of arguing with people who agree with you on 80-90% of your issues is something you see in a lot of groups. You see it with tankies and other communistsYou see it with Nazis and other authoritarian rightwingersNarcissism of petty differences is a helluva drug (and by helluva drug I mean it's meth that makes you stay up for 48 hours responding to people in hellthreads)
(DIR) Post #AFAsSgVaw5yEiUu0zQ by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:21:39.150544Z
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Thankfully, no religion has attempted to hack Pascal's Wager in this way, as they would be mocked for their bad faith attempt at "winning." If you have to add to your beliefs to get out of the losing corner of the Wager, then you're just playing rhetorical games, not actually seeking faith as Pascal described. So no, I'm not gonna wear the magic underwear if the mormons make up superhell
(DIR) Post #AFAsWgiG7PSSVajdA0 by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:22:20.190604Z
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If you don't know what you're taking about, kindly stop talking(typing). Mormon doctrine is radically different than biblical Christianity
(DIR) Post #AFAsavFzzA7em6XH7o by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:23:04.231179Z
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Pascal's wager only works out if there is only one God that you have to believe in that will send you to hell for not believing in it, and that one God is the same one in the bible and not some other God.
(DIR) Post #AFAsbCP8ESWrxLwJDk by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T20:23:11.747286Z
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@SuperLutheran @philmchawk @Dadbolgainz @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LorgarAurelian1488 @LouisConde @PorkCow @Robert_Edwardly @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon Pascal's Wager is only shitty when someone else pulls it, then?
(DIR) Post #AFAse9kkXvYabOSep6 by mkultra@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:23:41.697126Z
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40gay avi.Acts like a queer on the TL.Checks out.
(DIR) Post #AFAseWfDMfnNet33tA by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:23:44.369451Z
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>stay up for 48 hours responding to people in hellthreadsNo need to call me out like that bro...
(DIR) Post #AFAsgo6NV8IsJxqFIu by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:24:09.000520Z
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Also the old testament literally has the jewish god instructing the jews to genocide their racial enemies, they are the exact same people back then as they are today.
(DIR) Post #AFAsiOEwcrNygubTGK by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T20:24:29.706887Z
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@mkultra @LorgarAurelian1488 @Chance @Dadbolgainz @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @PorkCow @Robert_Edwardly @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran Oh no you don't. Everyone's at fault for this one.
(DIR) Post #AFAsllADqsnCen09Q0 by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:25:06.026219Z
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If you believe in all of the Gods, well maybe the real one isn't one that will get mad at you for worshiping other gods so you get into heaven, but if you pick the wrong one , then you are just as fucked as the guy who didn't pick any. It's kind of like playing the lottery with your soul.
(DIR) Post #AFAsnOLNfQjMSdzzKi by MeBigbrain@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:25:23.842792Z
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Shouldn't you be getting your 7th booster?
(DIR) Post #AFAsnbOL9jp2vaU2Fc by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:25:26.219752Z
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I don't believe that the threat of hell is the reason anyone should become a Christian. Never said anything of the sort.
(DIR) Post #AFAsp2fRENNhoOARl2 by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:25:41.806206Z
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Everyone stop what you are doing. Theology be damned this is now a thread about me making mongoose have a stroke because I play a tabletop game
(DIR) Post #AFAsr15C5qTRTb9jqC by dharmadudebro@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:26:01.662588Z
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No need to be hostile but from a purely historical standpoint and theological stand point Mormonism is broadly a rejection of the puritanical elements of the Congregational church as well as various more purtanical protestant sects.
(DIR) Post #AFAsskVSh83ye3Gj8i by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:26:18.651646Z
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Yeah that really does sound like the same Jews Hitler was talking about.
(DIR) Post #AFAsuPS9wPcdvdW2nA by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:26:31.310611Z
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Sadder words never said, McNabb was right again
(DIR) Post #AFAswAZiEFQiMct7CK by nugger@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:26:51.271066Z
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IF YOUR ON A TRAJECTORY OF FALLING AWAY, IT EVENTUALLY BECOMES COMPOUNDING AND SNOWBALLING WHERE YOU CANT CLIMB OUT OF IT -- BECAUSE YOU STOP WANTING TOWITH AN INFINITE LIFE IT WILL BE AN INFINITE FALLING AWAY AND MAN WILL BE INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM DEMONDEATH IS THE FINAL ATTEMPT TO BOOTSTRAP A RETURN, WHERE AT LEAST IN THE FINAL MOMENTS OF LIFE THERE COULD BE A REALIZATION THAT THINGS HAD GONE WRONG AND A MOVEMENT OF WILL TO RECONCILE EVEN IF IT IS AS LITTLE AS "I WISH I DINT BEAT MY KIDS BLOODY" -- IT PUTS THE GUY ON THE TRAJECTORYDOESN'T ALWAYS WORK, FROM WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD
(DIR) Post #AFAswUeLaj1McnD6CO by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:26:56.315600Z
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I mean, those are the literal words of jesus christ in his most important speech ever. All christians can do is quote the muh sell your swords bit, which clearly doesn't refer to his followers rising up against their oppressors because they never actually did that.
(DIR) Post #AFAswtF29ycwtWYjiK by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:26:58.890441Z
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Mormans reject the Bible, therefore they aren't Christians. It's pretty simple.
(DIR) Post #AFAswuIyCpN0C1POUK by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:26:59.115098Z
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Still not orthodox theology proper
(DIR) Post #AFAsyNTlDt4Wxq9nRQ by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:27:20.180456Z
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I mean, those are the literal words of jesus christ in his most important speech ever. All christians can do is quote the muh sell your cloaks for 2 swords bit, which clearly doesn't refer to his followers rising up against their oppressors because they never actually did that.
(DIR) Post #AFAt1379OXcWfmr5FI by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T20:27:52.040076Z
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@Dadbolgainz @dharmadudebro @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LorgarAurelian1488 @LouisConde @philmchawk @PorkCow @Robert_Edwardly @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran Which Bible?
(DIR) Post #AFAt4FhV3WLQZrNuOO by mkultra@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:28:24.895188Z
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The onus is on the "40k is aesthetically based" crowd to prove that their game is somehow better than Bolt Action which literally allows you to play as Leon Degrelle's unit of SS guys and shoot literal communists in game. Bolt Action was designed by the same people, is one the same scale, and plays better. I've not heard any substantive arguments, so I'm just assuming 40kids are mongoloids.
(DIR) Post #AFAt4ogIzxBZ4I5wtE by dharmadudebro@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:28:32.708545Z
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They don't though they have both the Old and new testament as cannon along with the book of Mormon. So you clearly don't know mormonism either.
(DIR) Post #AFAt59ASpXC2bcMJfs by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:28:34.959222Z
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Sadder words were never said: the truth came forth from Floating Head
(DIR) Post #AFAt5SHtk7QfuAz1Oq by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:28:39.768008Z
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>when you derail a discussion of your religion because you know it's so humiliating
(DIR) Post #AFAt9N496DoartPyCW by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:29:21.774102Z
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Oooga booga bix nood where is da white wimmenz at
(DIR) Post #AFAt9kv6PUqEqnN5RA by mkultra@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:29:26.402883Z
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I will literally sperg out until the literal SS guys wearing runes, iron crosses, and swastikas show up in the legit GW lore. Until then, save ur money and buy plastic SS men.
(DIR) Post #AFAtAF8y2Vl2aU5aDI by ShtPoastAnon@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:29:31.626318Z
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no fool, it is you that has rejected mormonism and the word of john smith, in your next life you shall be reborn, born again, a nigger.
(DIR) Post #AFAtAX9d4myyRkXMkC by TinTin@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:29:33.272855Z
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that is..........an extremely slanted reading of the early history of mormonism
(DIR) Post #AFAtAdkMZ7vmtPlmpk by nugger@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:29:34.923589Z
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I CANT STOP ARGUINGI JUST CANT STOP ARGUINGIM GONNA WAGE WAR ON PEOPLE WHO AGREE WITH ME 99%IM GONNA HAVE ARGUMENTS WITH GARDEN VARIETY FREE MARKETISTS WITH 2009 TAKES EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THIS WONT MATTER AND I WONT CONVINCE THEMWHAT IS THIS SPIRIT OF DIVISION AND HOW DO I GET RID OF IT
(DIR) Post #AFAtBPlQ2VIRoadJ8y by johnnyappleseed@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:29:44.408190Z
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Thank you for that, I was trying to think the argument for men becoming demons if given eternal life on earth but couldn't put it into words.
(DIR) Post #AFAtJ1kLDet9dvl6zg by Boomerman@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:31:06.728189Z
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What the fuck did you just say are you saying [eceleb] was right about [controversial topic] better call you a kike fed before spewing a bunch of shit i dont actually know.
(DIR) Post #AFAtJpIOzoFVJl4VO4 by mkultra@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:31:15.423409Z
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Heres your space marine collection right here:us.warlordgames.com/collections/german-waffen-ss/products/waffen-ss-starter-army
(DIR) Post #AFAtKM8GuUkn9taNg8 by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:31:21.115201Z
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He told his apostles to buy swords because he was about to be arrested :As soon as they finished the discussion about the swords, they went to the Garden of Gethsemane, where Jesus prayed and where a group of armed soldiers came to arrest Him. When the apostles saw that Jesus was about to be arrested, they asked, “Lord, shall we strike with the sword?” (vs 49). Without waiting for an answer, an apostle drew a sword, and blood was spilled.The servant of the high priest had his ear cut off and he was standing there bleeding. Jesus intervened, saying, “‘No more of this!‘ And he touched his ear and healed him” (vs. 51). Read those words of Jesus again, “No more of this.” No more fighting. No more bloodshed. In Matthew’s account, Jesus makes a more general statement, “All who take the sword will perish by the sword” (Matthew 26:52).Then Jesus asked the leaders of the Jews an important question, “Have you come out as against a robber, with swords and clubs?” (vs. 52). In other words, you’ve come out here with weapons as if I was some sort of violent criminal. The swords had served their purpose. For those who chose to see Jesus as a criminal leader, a couple of swords amongst twelve men was enough for them to say, “See! He’s a criminal.” But those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, know Jesus was not a man of violence nor a criminal. He was the One healing the pain caused by violence, saying, “No more of this.”
(DIR) Post #AFAtLoD00c0mWcUQXg by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T20:31:36.459974Z
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@nugger @loghdub @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @PorkCow @Robert_Edwardly @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran The revolutionary spirit is all about attacking tomorrow's rivals before defeating today's enemies.
(DIR) Post #AFAtNFMeWvcF2KgtRg by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:31:52.709762Z
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“Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.” (Deut. 4:2.)“What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.” (Deut. 12:32.)“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:“And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” (Rev. 22:18–19.)
(DIR) Post #AFAtP5AXPJf5zltpOC by Turdicus@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:32:09.001172Z
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relax and uplug fren, sometimes its nice to put it down for a bit
(DIR) Post #AFAtPuYOMO2vMWS69Q by dharmadudebro@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:32:18.992540Z
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Certainly puritanism runs in the vains of the latter day saints (they after all reject coffee and Liquour) but I do think they are ultimately a rejection of various aspects of American puritanism such examples include their emulation of temples similar to those of christ's time.
(DIR) Post #AFAtQVstZ7Qp8pKUkK by professionalbigot69@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:32:19.300293Z
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IT’S CALLED YOU’RE NOT YOURSELF WHEN YOU’RE HUNGRY.HAVE A SNICKERS
(DIR) Post #AFAtZEU7cs4Hmetqk4 by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:33:43.238628Z
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There were temples similar to those of Mormons when Jesus' ministry was going on? Fascinating.
(DIR) Post #AFAtZN1jrliCHEgoFc by Ottovonshitpost@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:33:45.599977Z
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Maybe you could look at a retard, say "this is not worth my time", react to his super serious post with :5870_open_eye_crying_laughing: and carry on
(DIR) Post #AFAtbqZiygo6Uwlbxw by dharmadudebro@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:34:06.058065Z
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cool but explain why Mormons include the old and new testament. your reciting of scripture to own a faith I am not a part of shows you have no understanding of Mormonism or their beliefs.
(DIR) Post #AFAtdqh7VOOxRnBGi0 by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:34:20.537875Z
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Shit I might have to become a Mormon. Burning for eternity in hell I can deal with, being reincarnated as nigger sounds terrifying.
(DIR) Post #AFAtfRfnVNASQMK6tM by nugger@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:34:41.923750Z
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THESE MEN HAD SUFFERED FOR CHRIST AND DIED A BLESSED DEATH EVEN IF WE ARE NOT TO CALL THEM MARTYRS OR SAINTS IN THE ECCLESIAL DEFINITION BECAUSE OF OUR DIFFERENCES -- THAT MUCH IS PLAIN TO ALLIM GONNA ASSUME THIS KID IS NOT AN EVIL RETARD BUT IS "BEING IRONIC" AND MAKING FUN OF SOMEONE ELSE'S POSITION -- LIKE "OH YOU DONT RECOGNIZE THE SAINTS OF MY TRADITION -- WELL BOOM THIS IS HOW YOU LOOK TO ME"THESE ARENT PROBLEMS THAT COME UP IN REAL WORLD THIS IS A DISEASE OF THE ONLINE AND IT WILL PASS AWAY WITH THE PASSING OF THE ONLINE
(DIR) Post #AFAti57lnVOXMJfFce by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:35:05.335067Z
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YES YOU CAN
(DIR) Post #AFAtiQhHafHOGXRPOK by TinTin@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:35:10.435061Z
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that isnt what I mean. I mean ascribing theological or anti corruption reasoning to the foundation of mormonism is a very pro mormon reading of how things fell out. Also at least afaik Smith came from the Methodists who are at least in an anglo context as close to the opposite of puritan you can get without becoming a quaker/unitarian
(DIR) Post #AFAtiXaRySyPdNIYDI by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:35:11.860311Z
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Christians are told very explicitly not to add or change scripture, mormans added, changed and ignored parts of scripture and that makes something other than a Christian.
(DIR) Post #AFAtj0jfbGa02Mpp6u by dharmadudebro@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:35:19.065408Z
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Mormons since the 19th century have been basing their temples off of those of the ancient levant.
(DIR) Post #AFAtkPvjPevCSy9BUO by Jackuu@beefyboys.club
2022-01-06T20:36:03.150988Z
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@nugger @LouisConde The passing of the onlineCan’t happen soon enough
(DIR) Post #AFAtlOAhR8XtIlbz9M by dharmadudebro@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:35:50.708637Z
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But The Mormons believe that God instructed these additions soo....
(DIR) Post #AFAtm8J7u8cQODuMfg by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:36:03.825346Z
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Yes. Those events are fairytales so I don't really care about the "jesus healing people" part, what is important is the message: that jesus tells his followers to not resist persecution, and in his sermon on the mount speech explicitly tells his followers to serve their enemies.
(DIR) Post #AFAtpZXh6Npfj5MVRw by SaltWraith@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:36:50.776218Z
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I think that fate is reserved for wiggers like Ethan Ralph and Baked
(DIR) Post #AFAtqVfUzWXQ05SYfQ by mkultra@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:37:01.405203Z
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I like gatekeeping, and 40kids need to be gatekept.
(DIR) Post #AFAtsN2A45zrnfwmSO by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:37:19.762847Z
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Joseph Smith was a convicted con artist and fraud who pulled a bender and made his own freemasonry with blackjack, and hookers. Acting like he was a good faith practitioner of a quirky new protestant denomination is naive at best.
(DIR) Post #AFAtsvWTpsS2lYOTR2 by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:37:28.115827Z
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Mormans also don't believe in the trinity.Any person or group that claims "God said so" needs some evidence to back it up. Mormons don't have any evidence. It's clearly a cult created by a degenerate weirdo.
(DIR) Post #AFAtvPDKPqdTQkcLxo by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:38:03.080937Z
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Good luck with that.
(DIR) Post #AFAtwYT3UqP2Q5WPpo by nugger@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:38:15.092680Z
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SLITHERING INTO THREADS LIKE PSYCHO MANTIS "HMMM SO YOU LIKE CASTLEVANIA??? LET ME TELL YOU WHY YOUR GAY"
(DIR) Post #AFAtwq1MEYwUrOhYA4 by philmchawk@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:38:18.546054Z
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>has attempted to hack Pascal's Wager in this waychristianity did lmao. Might not have been named at the time but that is exactly what it did.
(DIR) Post #AFAtwvz63shPM7gpTE by RaHoWaJoe@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:38:18.727898Z
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Should go with the Konflict SS.I would have done that myself had the local Bolt Action community not threatened my life and pre-banned me from all stores.
(DIR) Post #AFAtyvR14n7IEKhMZ6 by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:38:40.646482Z
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The only difference between a cult and a religion is how long ago the guy who created it died, and how many people his followers killed for making fun of them.
(DIR) Post #AFAu0Eua9BtYvU9cOW by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:38:55.482382Z
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Lol did you fail to conceal your power level or something
(DIR) Post #AFAu17DwDRSpN9cq3s by MeBigbrain@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:39:00.766282Z
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Lmfao you're the one that brought up niggers you retard. I'd be embarrassed of being a pagan too, though.
(DIR) Post #AFAu2glzWvL5urIu6i by TinTin@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:39:22.086399Z
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yeah................I at least respect the level of salesmanship that says "hey look bro I was in the woods bro and an angel came and showed me these tables bro and even though it wasnt english I could read it also no one else can see it sorry but its totally real" even if I think its slimey
(DIR) Post #AFAu2xBOWFAMoHJPvM by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:39:24.968412Z
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No, God is real and his Word is truth and law. That's the difference.
(DIR) Post #AFAu57koBd7AAuuajA by mkultra@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:39:44.366029Z
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I will win on this.
(DIR) Post #AFAu88sOTDIIWatn0q by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:40:11.671477Z
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The difference between Islam and Mormonism, is that Mohammed murdered and beheaded way more people.
(DIR) Post #AFAu8B845v1BVmFKiW by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:40:13.106911Z
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K
(DIR) Post #AFAu8thiMjg7l5GQOO by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:40:25.634655Z
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Kissing nigger feet is directly related to your religion, what do vaccines/boosters have to do with Paganism?
(DIR) Post #AFAu90xvMrnuHNty88 by dharmadudebro@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:40:27.906134Z
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I view Mormonism as a both a continuation of Puritan spergery in that like Methodism puritanism also comes from the Church England and was prominent in America like puritanism. I also view it as rejection of purtitanism because I think much of the practices of The mormons can be considered a idoltry/gaudy from other sects of protestants. I am neither for or against the mormon I criticize them from a historical rather than theological perspective.
(DIR) Post #AFAuDIjFGa7AWt50BE by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:41:10.061202Z
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Imagine being one of the guys who let smith have their wife lmao
(DIR) Post #AFAuFHfy9TZvqLUceO by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:41:26.730397Z
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The muslim argument is pretty similar to the mormon one too. Basically that the bible was right, but humans fucked it all up so God sent an angel to talk to them and fix all the stuff they screwed up.
(DIR) Post #AFAuI9FtuoUUb2fJjM by TinTin@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:42:06.040078Z
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I think you're stretching the word puritanism much farther than it has right to go here but ok
(DIR) Post #AFAuKwbrO9qkFFGnTc by TinTin@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:42:33.216218Z
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John Goldman moment
(DIR) Post #AFAuLCoV8vT6V5J7Oy by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:42:37.463228Z
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imagine being one of the guys who let David Koresh have their wife :D
(DIR) Post #AFAuMO8YWnsxuQFfIO by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:42:52.722207Z
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Fuck off, you in particular are the perfect example of an ill-informed shit eating faggot. I am so tired of seeing your annoying bile spewed all over poast. Fuck off you low IQ nigger.
(DIR) Post #AFAuNua7Nxmmp7s0J6 by ItsSkyDragonz@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:43:10.605441Z
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“HMMM YOU PLAY LEAGUE OF LEGENDS? ARE YOU ALLOWED WITHIN 100 FEET OF YOUR LOCAL PLAYGROUNDS? DIDNT THINK SO!
(DIR) Post #AFAuP7RX3ITv0DQhpw by dharmadudebro@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:43:24.805356Z
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Wait till you hear I trust in the work of Amida Buddha.
(DIR) Post #AFAuSRKZZBJfYHl3aa by MeBigbrain@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:43:54.750667Z
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Niggers and their feet have nothing to do with Christianity. Point to me where niggers are mentioned in the Bible.The vaccines are made up bullshit that only retards buy into, so the comparison to paganism is 1:1.
(DIR) Post #AFAuTChZRUdgTDsaSe by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:44:02.535163Z
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Christians added to scripture before Mormonism, also where in the bible does it actually say that?
(DIR) Post #AFAuWTUTTjmZPOJUjQ by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:44:42.432747Z
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Don't know a ton about Waco tbh
(DIR) Post #AFAuXr7P7GQaykBHiC by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:44:59.933862Z
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Bruh the people on your side (anti-vaxx) are niggers and rednecks, you are the low IQ one here lmao.
(DIR) Post #AFAuaCCNi9Z8wAco6K by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:45:25.270138Z
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If he is a low IQ nigger my only question is, when are you going to doxx him so you can wash his feet?
(DIR) Post #AFAucUPOygM3zfoD6u by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:45:47.848960Z
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The pope and various other religious figures wash nigger feet, and your god jesus christ himself washes the feet of various disgusting people.
(DIR) Post #AFAuhz3uR8mMVlNMS8 by hourmutt@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:46:30.431415Z
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@philmchawk @SuperLutheran @Dadbolgainz @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LorgarAurelian1488 @LouisConde @PorkCow @Robert_Edwardly @Senpai-kun @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon extraordinary
(DIR) Post #AFAulNqOkoLOExg3Bg by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:47:03.925243Z
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Basically David Koresh was Jesus returned, all of the women had to get impregnated by him, all the other men were forbidden from having sex with any of the women, including ones they were legally married to years before joining the cult.
(DIR) Post #AFAulXOPFjtXr2epwe by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:47:06.421608Z
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I'll wash both of your feet right after I finish baptizing you until the glory of God burns like white hot iron in your lungs.
(DIR) Post #AFAummkjd6VXmahFwG by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:47:21.021043Z
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Using anti White slurs while appropriating pro White imagery. Identity crisis or just retarded?
(DIR) Post #AFAuqdJieZuJg0tYVk by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:48:01.344341Z
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Ok schizo, you have no power so this is pure bluster.
(DIR) Post #AFAurEz8bY1UVBYehs by TinTin@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:48:03.884894Z
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yeah what the feds did was evil but I Koresh the individual did kinda deserve it
(DIR) Post #AFAuwYNztqOW7YiedE by mkultra@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:48:59.490510Z
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this but unironically
(DIR) Post #AFAuwvp4lKikoCZ6X2 by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:49:05.733546Z
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Objectively the White people who are on the anti-vaxx side are the low IQ ones. I am not saying that high IQ = being moral, but he was the one to make claim regarding IQ so I simply rebuked it.
(DIR) Post #AFAv7v106btjUONkAK by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:50:50.663209Z
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yeah he was def fuckin around with some 13-15 year olds too.
(DIR) Post #AFAv8HcK4Wp9aW0rOS by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:50:54.135874Z
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Would you want a Christian who will stay a Christian be on your political side?
(DIR) Post #AFAvE6Xs9KlQzFhu4m by MeBigbrain@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:51:44.772670Z
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I don't care what "The pope and various other religious figures" do. Christ washed the feet of people, not niggers.But if we're going to pick random zio-ops and claim they represent the religion they pretend to represent...
(DIR) Post #AFAvItF12d9XAmAXQ0 by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:52:38.087689Z
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Are you conflating being against mandatory/coerced injections of experimental mRNA gene therapy with being against vaccines in general? Thread too long for me to catch up on it all. Nigger cattle do what they're told when power attempts to exert its will upon them, proud White men make their own decisions. Sounds to me that not only are you the former, you're embarrassed by it and want everyone to be like you so you don't have to feel the shame anymore.
(DIR) Post #AFAvJua7XkT5cTWmYq by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:52:48.051738Z
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Oh don't get me wrong I love Christians, mainly because I love arguing with them. Christians like it too. That's why they slit into 500 different factions of Christianity so they would have people to argue with over religion. We totally should work together.
(DIR) Post #AFAvLism0lw9ul7GBU by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:53:12.010534Z
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I've literally been through this with this guy already. He's either incredibly stupid or a literal kike. Either way its a waste of time.
(DIR) Post #AFAvNemCFTyhl6xhaq by professionalbigot69@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:53:32.128548Z
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quit typing like a redditor, for your own sake
(DIR) Post #AFAvORxZNzBsIZeyci by mkultra@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:53:45.536730Z
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You enjoy shitflinging, clear difference.Get off twitter.
(DIR) Post #AFAvPw3QyqXvvP6xXM by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:54:08.674613Z
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The very fact that we all like to argue over religion instead of beheading each other and enslaving each other's children is what sets us apart from sub human animals and people who post on reddit.
(DIR) Post #AFAvSSYL7fxbIQlqMq by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:54:33.915609Z
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Christ washed the feet of judas like the bitch he was, and now Whites wash the feet of niggers and their other enemies.
(DIR) Post #AFAvTCOgftZVTobmi0 by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:54:39.440873Z
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I'm almost positive that superlutheran and I could forcibly baptize every edgy pagan on poast into submission.
(DIR) Post #AFAvVm5kvxUulQyvPk by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:55:06.243340Z
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That's something I can get behind
(DIR) Post #AFAvcoWmHAAyLUyf44 by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:56:48.091076Z
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Bro you retarded American christcucks couldn't even stop niggers from overrunning your cities and instead you ran away like the bitches that you are, what the fuck are you talking about?
(DIR) Post #AFAvgYMsIc6ZNy81q4 by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:57:34.585216Z
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I was already baptized, didn't take. I asked too many questions in sunday school. You have no hope of saving me.
(DIR) Post #AFAvoatimGHXY3KIAy by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:59:00.135912Z
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I'm talking about a new kind of baptism, one where we dunk you until the bubbles stop and then bring you back up and ask if you're ready to repent.
(DIR) Post #AFAvqOb9TfybytV2mW by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:59:23.304179Z
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If you think you can do better at baptizing me, I'll let you try if you let me take you into the woods and take mushrooms so you can talk to the demons.
(DIR) Post #AFAvr4dlAN1CN92ig4 by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T20:59:30.105000Z
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The anti-vaxx shit has the backing of mainstream conservatism and jewish money, you acting brave when it comes to that is hilarious. How about you actually fight for your race instead of doing what the jews tell you?
(DIR) Post #AFAvvr27BWNVcOiLjc by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:00:26.540774Z
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Been there done that many times.
(DIR) Post #AFAw38ON2j9nU1azXU by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:01:49.406191Z
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>when your people have been chased out of the cities your ancestors built so your only way of flexing is to attack other White people on the same side of the struggle as youPathetic
(DIR) Post #AFAwA8IhmUV5E8Haxk by Shadowbroker2135@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:03:05.853482Z
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I think a lot of that are Fed lies. Saw one of the girl's testimonies and she was reading off a paper with the tone of a book report.
(DIR) Post #AFAwFjk00TVwnGinBI by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:04:08.126891Z
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The ones you took are different and a lot more fun, than the ones I am referring to I am sure.
(DIR) Post #AFAwMNZGqNjg3Is2eu by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:05:18.109475Z
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norsemyth.org/2019/05/on-inclusive-heathenry.html?m=1Go be inclusive somewhere else, dork
(DIR) Post #AFAwOCkA3kad3nppp2 by RoyalJohnny242@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:05:39.436733Z
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A lot of the people who spread stories about Koresh were people who got kicked out of the church for being assmad about Koresh becoming the guy in charge. Like George Rodin who stole a corpse from the morgue to try and revive it to prove he was the better fit for leader
(DIR) Post #AFAwQfB1JgOFp7ZQn2 by DeadlyTurtle@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:06:06.026420Z
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G E TH I SA S S
(DIR) Post #AFAwSm2il8abhJh9Xc by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:06:29.490231Z
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Oh haha, probably.
(DIR) Post #AFAwVN4O46aN76iFzU by MeBigbrain@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:06:56.983589Z
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Pagans?
(DIR) Post #AFAwcBNnumrWtX2iqO by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:08:11.575753Z
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Your god told you to give me all your money, so please do so.
(DIR) Post #AFAwegtjiJVHDSAudU by RoyalJohnny242@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:08:37.893082Z
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Also Koresh called the cops when the fat retard Rodin brought a corpse to the church/building and tried to pull a Lazarus.I’m not gonna go full Koresh defense force, he was sleazy when it came to polygamy but the claims of being a diddler are largely ZOG agitprop to justify the mass murder of a bunch of civilians
(DIR) Post #AFAwgzwrr5yasZjvs0 by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:09:03.625666Z
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Lol you haven't read the Bible, and I'm pretty sure you haven't read the eddas either.
(DIR) Post #AFAwskQpN8VSEJM8dk by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:11:10.336853Z
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My favorite story from the Edda is when Thor made loki play tug of war with a goat using a rope tied to his dick
(DIR) Post #AFAwuBaTtS6uk1YbXk by Dadbolgainz@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:11:26.561686Z
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I bet he's either read the FBI welcome packet or the Talmud though. Maybe both?
(DIR) Post #AFAwufNP8dTZ89faKG by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:11:31.359183Z
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It's right here man, I don't know what to tell you:Eye for Eye38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[h] 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.I am asking you for all your money, so if you refuse to give it to me you are violating the explicit commandments of jesus christ.
(DIR) Post #AFAx3VWv7IhRCMKvEu by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:13:06.824162Z
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Also the time Loki turned into a Horse and got raped by another horse and got pregnant.
(DIR) Post #AFAx9Ouyc3oqQfOmuW by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:14:11.615047Z
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As a nonbeliever who does not bother to read all the Scriptures anyway, you are wholly unqualified to interpret that text, let alone establish an application for it. You keep acting like you have all these little gotcha verses, it's not a good look.
(DIR) Post #AFAx9g5Wm5MNgJSxDU by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:14:14.755104Z
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I am not a Pagan, but at least Paganism doesn't have the gods telling you that you need to serve your enemies.
(DIR) Post #AFAxBJWzc0LGIk5oY4 by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T21:14:32.571250Z
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@SuperLutheran @HyperboreanWave Should someone have to fully read every scrap of Christian literature before they are eligible to reject it? If so, does the same rule apply to, say, Islam?
(DIR) Post #AFAxHd6ziySulcwaRs by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:15:39.968829Z
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Are you saying that the bible isn't saying what is explicitly written therein? Then all of christianity is a sham and my interpretation of the bible is equally valid as yours.
(DIR) Post #AFAxLKKNVOErfRy0bQ by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:16:17.854297Z
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Question. Would you rather the entire white race go extinct and Christianity live on through non-whites, or The white race dominate the world but they worship the Gods of Rome.
(DIR) Post #AFAxQLzak8zqHKdoWG by CosmaruCiorilor@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:17:15.576653Z
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the 1st case never existed, exists or will existsame for the 2nd one
(DIR) Post #AFAxW2B7KBMsZ0jzM0 by MeBigbrain@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:18:16.985123Z
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Both are impossible.
(DIR) Post #AFAxX5EZRtkiKXrAGG by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:18:28.169760Z
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What a fucking retard lol
(DIR) Post #AFAxdFpIym78v5ytYO by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:19:35.101348Z
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Of course not. But if someone is going to claim they know what Christian belief is or what the texts say, I think it's fair to expect that they should be able to back up their claim with real knowledge.
(DIR) Post #AFAxeZUvKMXADd4mAa by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:19:49.610553Z
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Or are you saying you're more of an authority on christianity because you've read the bible (in which I can read it and be equally an authority?) or because you've spent more time reading it and are higher up in the hierarchy? Then clearly the pope knows more about christianity and is a higher authority than you, and he's out kissing nigger feet and telling Europeans to welcome shitskins, so christianity is an evil religion.
(DIR) Post #AFAxkZADTx0Qv8FUXY by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:20:53.441499Z
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I have backed up the claim, I have quoted you the exact text of the bible.
(DIR) Post #AFAxoIONmQas3xeZBw by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:21:34.825699Z
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Nah to both points. You're grasping at straws here to excuse your wannabe rhetorical points
(DIR) Post #AFAxoVKFh60wAuox3g by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:21:36.234270Z
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Are you saying non-whites can't be Christian? Then why were they all Italians at first.DOOOISSH
(DIR) Post #AFAxue4870V91FCxKC by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:22:42.160164Z
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Saying "nah" isn't an argument.
(DIR) Post #AFAxz9jEKe9eNVaDce by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:23:32.979684Z
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Also>grasping at straws>when jesus literally tells you to be a bitch and kowtow to your enemies
(DIR) Post #AFAy25G7PF0dNvMXVw by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T21:24:04.784392Z
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@SuperLutheran @HyperboreanWave @Chance @Dadbolgainz @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LorgarAurelian1488 @LouisConde @MeBigbrain @PorkCow @Robert_Edwardly @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon I've seen more than one Christian on poast say that they would rather their daughter date a non-white Christian than a white atheist, if you want a less far-fetched example to go with.Those guys are massive unforgivable faggots, right?
(DIR) Post #AFAy26lhnHs04B9HO4 by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:24:02.730586Z
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Actually I have more authority than the pope and I'm much more qualified than he is.
(DIR) Post #AFAy5xCBKOSpXDMmhM by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:24:44.803545Z
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Throwing a text at me thinking that you've somehow put out a gotcha isn't backing up anything
(DIR) Post #AFAy7ak1maYATQyjya by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:25:04.451043Z
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By what metric? Because the voices in your head say so?
(DIR) Post #AFAy98HIa0bwm8H9Wa by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:25:20.352336Z
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Oh cool, can you please make a proclamation to start the Crusades and retake Jerusalem then, If so I will renounce the old gods and pledge my life to become a Paladin.
(DIR) Post #AFAyBoI5LfsHedv7nU by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:25:50.258832Z
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I'm throwing text from the bible at you, which if you're a protestant should be everything you need.
(DIR) Post #AFAyEjlQdRtSU42cAC by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:26:20.883610Z
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Wrong kind of Protestant for that, sorry
(DIR) Post #AFAyG57GjXgGzptjEG by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:26:36.174522Z
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Nah
(DIR) Post #AFAyHWtYwCC3ROB3MO by nugger@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:26:52.044067Z
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AH WERE HAVING THIS THREAD AGAINI ONLY SAW THE OTHER BRANCH OF ITCOULDN'T OF KNOWN
(DIR) Post #AFAyMzdfUruK2GLe9Q by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:27:48.803883Z
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Sorry fren, sometimes I just can't help myself
(DIR) Post #AFAyPis2IUoitlN0Vc by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:28:21.044047Z
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Well the pope is infinitely higher up in the church hierarchy than you and is more knowledgeable about doctrine than you (since he has the entire catholic church vouching for his knowledge of it, while you have basically no one), so again by what metric other than the literal text of the bible are we going here?
(DIR) Post #AFAyS6VTOEhwmdx4t6 by nugger@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:28:46.645493Z
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I KNOW IT ALL TOO WELL BROTHER HH
(DIR) Post #AFAybOXrgys1KrV7aK by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:30:27.407157Z
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It's kind of funny that as a Protestant Super Lutheran makes Catholic arguments like non-experts educated by the Church being not qualified to read the bible. Pretty funny for a guy who names himself after Martin Luther who translated the bible so everyone could read it for themselves instead of having the church read it for them.
(DIR) Post #AFAylWQ7GfooeghnhA by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:32:17.245321Z
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"This lyin bitch ass pope, says right here I can divorce this bitch and cut her head off, I startin my own church nigga"~Henry the 8th after reading shit from Luther
(DIR) Post #AFAyrtcru1imMci3ua by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:33:24.076988Z
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The pope might think he's that much higher up but he's not and I find it pretty funny.As for the metric, I do solemnly declare that one must interpret Scripture with Scripture, resting upon a hermeneutic according to the Christocentric principle of the Inspired Word, with all due deference to context given in each pericope selected, and in such fashion as to not violate the revelation given in previous works of the Bible. Such should also be interpreted according to a thorough knowledge of the histories and Biblical languages should they be endowed with the charismata which places them in the teaching office of the Church, having been examined and verified to possess both mediate and immediate call.
(DIR) Post #AFAz01Tkabtb2IJtfk by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:34:54.349671Z
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Ain't I a stinker?(And Luther too btw, his writings on teaching authority are pretty eye opening)
(DIR) Post #AFAz2jQMAn0HuQ1Yhs by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:35:23.878036Z
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Okay, and the pope has infinitely more of that wordsalad than you, as vouched by the entire catholic church hierarchy. Meanwhile if we are actually just going by what the bible actually says instead of requiring some mystic knowledge then right here jesus tells you to give me all your money.
(DIR) Post #AFAz9T9T4VrXT5KyPo by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:36:36.462733Z
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None of what I said is word salad. You should read up on it (after, of course, reading the Bible)
(DIR) Post #AFAzJegx1MZi9er7i4 by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:38:25.156551Z
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The pope and all the lower rungs of the church that support him are much more educated in that word salad than you, and so in terms of that word salad his knowledge of christianity trumps yours.
(DIR) Post #AFAzUifaZT5vg5UipM by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:40:27.582017Z
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Like bruh they've been autistically studying Latin and all this other useless shit for millennia, you have nothing on them.
(DIR) Post #AFAzV2Ctvq1yGuE5tA by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:40:30.420876Z
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Actually, no they're not, and they don't trump anything. They're not even orange, dude.
(DIR) Post #AFAzWNaVvLEgsAuciW by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:40:41.076664Z
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Did you do a Godcast on this topic. I need something to fall asleep too. I always fall asleep to the Godcast, you have very soothing voices and usually don't talk about things that make me angry in my sleep and punch my wife by accident.
(DIR) Post #AFAzb9Pm2yWUMaAE4W by ArkyShrugger@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:40:34.922682Z
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HW doesn't realize the size and stature of the windmill he's tilting at.
(DIR) Post #AFAzbsd7wAwUb1l1dI by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:41:42.223282Z
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>when you have no actual argumentSorry bro but jesus told you to give me all your money, this is an inescapable fact
(DIR) Post #AFAzcJVxyuG1ydcBii by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:41:46.876569Z
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I never fall asleep to FTN for obvious reasons.
(DIR) Post #AFAzgVulouaNarDfTk by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:42:26.191276Z
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On most of the topics discussed, yeah.
(DIR) Post #AFAzply9V0LrzZDTRQ by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:44:12.815059Z
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This is the first time I've heard a protestant going against sola scriptura and appealing to some mystic knowledge, so it's pretty funny to me.
(DIR) Post #AFAzrqoMT2AZaYcyae by gruglife@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:44:38.256458Z
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That insanely loud break music always jolts me back awake when I try to.
(DIR) Post #AFAzwHGW3NUqnDuKW0 by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:45:25.972903Z
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I'm pretty sure I have it on good authority that this isn't the meaning of the text. But I'm also having a little fun upsetting you
(DIR) Post #AFAzxCOzcX9601JP8q by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:45:32.563348Z
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yeah and the loud ass fucking Koshertified comercial
(DIR) Post #AFB00RIYh2Qh4GqbWC by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:46:11.363499Z
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The pope has infinitely more authority within christianity and his interpretation of it would be close to mine.
(DIR) Post #AFB0Dp91LRyIn2lhsu by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:48:36.366571Z
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Bruh i already told you that I have higher authority than that Argentinian in the Vatican. If you don't believe me, that's fine, we can let bygones be bygones, but I'm not gonna be under the pope here.
(DIR) Post #AFB0Ibp6IhVevGjUZM by WalrusAurelius@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T21:49:07.681446Z
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@johnnyappleseed @loghdub Your ability to repent is a function of your mortality. If you were immortal *and* fallen you would be like the demons, which is why such people receive the same punishment as them at the Final Judgement.It is only because you *can* die that you become able to Live Eternally in Christ.
(DIR) Post #AFB0JYEd7wOS5F7hPk by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:49:38.233635Z
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By who's word, that of the voices in your head? Then I can easily say that I have more authority than you.
(DIR) Post #AFB0VqLNcmYliq8qjA by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:51:51.827389Z
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Oh I'm perfectly in line with Sola Scriptura. Not the goofy version of it we see with our fundie friends, but even so
(DIR) Post #AFB0leYNEFFhmvl42S by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:54:43.516646Z
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Okay, and using Sola Scriptura jesus tells you to give me all your money, it's right there in the text of the bible.
(DIR) Post #AFB0vd3be9RM2l7jWK by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:56:31.263966Z
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This is why I chose to worship the God who is the Father of the White Race and who's blood flows through my veins, and not one who made a deal with Jews to rule the world.
(DIR) Post #AFB0ya7V1WI1npLvUm by ArkyShrugger@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:55:07.327115Z
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It's not mystic knowledge, it's LCMS doctrine on how to understand scripture, going back to Martin Luther. Another word for it is exegesis. When you read your own opinions into scripture it's called eisegesis.
(DIR) Post #AFB0yaX1Uchr4zIJHM by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:57:03.537424Z
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Okay, and what the text of the bible says is jesus telling you to give me all your money. If you need some "super special" way of reading the bible then you're not actually reading the bible and are just deferring to some established church canon, which the catholic church has infinitely more of authority regarding than you.
(DIR) Post #AFB0ybMQPVp5ePLMOm by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T21:57:03.633448Z
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@ArkyShrugger @HyperboreanWave @SuperLutheran Why can't the bible just say what it means without me having to have an excrement interpretation
(DIR) Post #AFB146YFs4tzpqV7gG by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:58:03.122504Z
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Because then all the priests would be out of jobs.
(DIR) Post #AFB15Zws3jfBIXiZBQ by TinTin@poa.st
2022-01-06T21:58:18.579139Z
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>made a deal with jews to rule the worldwow its like you didnt read a word I said.
(DIR) Post #AFB1NFWWjloZADp0Hg by CosmaruCiorilor@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:01:31.113331Z
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Aye , the people that call Lord Jesus a khazar (as referring to the current ethnic group of people that are known today as jews & who are also mix of God knows what) are wrong.But the ancient Israelites and the Jews/Judeans of Judea were scummy people as well. There is a passage in Ezekiel (forgot where) that states that if the prophet were to spread God's message to any other people except the Israelites, these other people would've repented (implying ancient Israel was the worst people God suffered to live at that time).Yes the Son of God came to Earth and He did so through the Judeans/Jews, the worst people who lived at that time and belonging to their race.tl;dr Jesus was not khazar, but He was still born to the worst ethnicity to live on Earth at that time: jews/judeans
(DIR) Post #AFB1ZRRMG0sjb7DYBc by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:03:43.253022Z
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Oh I read what you said. I dunno why you think he didn't make a deal with Jews to rule the world because he did.Isaiah 60:14New King James VersionAlso the sons of those who afflicted you Shall come bowing to you, And all those who despised you shall fall prostrate at the soles of your feet; And they shall call you The City of the LORD, Zion of the Holy One of Israel.
(DIR) Post #AFB1cMMfaJg8izPrVY by TinTin@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:04:14.442679Z
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on a serious note how the fuck do you get "rule the world"? Upon rejecting Christ the jews were justly crushed by Rome and scattered. Since that point they havent ruled the world til 1945, and the jews of that era have absolutely no interest in God or the covenant they broke
(DIR) Post #AFB1deCqjfMGLhR9JA by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:04:28.935198Z
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There is also a bunch of stuff about all other nations being slaves to the jews and everyone bringing them gold and money.
(DIR) Post #AFB1lYH2fxrSGbAPs8 by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:05:54.308309Z
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@HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun google.com/amp/s/reporter.lcms.org/2021/three-year-bible-reading-guide-updated/amp/Tbh this sounds like it's right up your alley. Could really help clear up the confusion you're feeling right now
(DIR) Post #AFB1llzpekPgpHDrzU by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:05:54.721116Z
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The Jews ruling the world today still believe in the old covenant, else they would be Christians. Considering they rule the world now, looks like their God lived up to their bargain.
(DIR) Post #AFB1p8jPaGSkCs9Cue by TinTin@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:06:33.508461Z
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you cant be serious
(DIR) Post #AFB1qUET85cfBEJgLQ by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T22:06:48.138327Z
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@CosmaruCiorilor @Nocturn_Adrift @Chance @Dadbolgainz @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LorgarAurelian1488 @LouisConde @PorkCow @rikkatakarada @Robert_Edwardly @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran I like to be a full flavored anti semite, not just a diet anti judah limited brand.
(DIR) Post #AFB1tL2XlMFnXV69pY by TinTin@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:07:10.994840Z
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>"pagans" not agree completely with jewish revisionism about their own history challenge (impossible)
(DIR) Post #AFB1vdRGKOOtBHku4e by shitgrifter@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:07:37.936008Z
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@TinTin @LorgarAurelian1488 @Chance @Dadbolgainz @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @PorkCow @rikkatakarada @Robert_Edwardly @Senpai-kun @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran can you dumb fuck retard gorilla Niggers untag me from this fucking clusterfuck
(DIR) Post #AFB20oKzEZ74QmHvMG by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:08:35.062677Z
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Martin Luther is just a guy, his interpretation/reading of the bible is not any more valid than anyone else's.
(DIR) Post #AFB22ClXtZSQU3NLhA by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:08:54.730267Z
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Let me help you friend:
(DIR) Post #AFB28r60rUdHIq7VnU by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T22:10:07.407439Z
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@shitgrifter @TinTin @Chance @DK_Dharmaraj @Dadbolgainz @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LorgarAurelian1488 @LouisConde @PorkCow @Robert_Edwardly @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran @rikkatakarada You'll have to mute the whole thread because it has broken into way too many branches for tag etiquette to be practical now.
(DIR) Post #AFB2GGBXykmz8vEueG by shitgrifter@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:10:41.303887Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @Chance @Dadbolgainz @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @PorkCow @rikkatakarada @Robert_Edwardly @Senpai-kun @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran @TinTin already done and my notifs still look like this. Just fucking untag me it isn't that Herculean of a task.
(DIR) Post #AFB2TIyku4FbZWTcWm by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:12:51.787147Z
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The entire old testament is Jews revising their own history, and without that the New Testiment doesn't make any fucking sense. I don't believe in this shit, you do.
(DIR) Post #AFB2UgG3pzbC3oE8no by ArkyShrugger@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:12:29.712578Z
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If I have to give you all my money when you ask me for it. you have to give it back to me when I ask for it back. Jesus says.
(DIR) Post #AFB2UgjU4b8PX3zdfE by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:13:07.548301Z
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@ArkyShrugger @SuperLutheran @Senpai-kun I am not a christian so I don't have to do what jesus tells his followers to do.
(DIR) Post #AFB2XOMwnwvjRok0rQ by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T22:14:33.475766Z
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@shitgrifter Yeah I've always wondered why that it considered adequate for a thread mute.
(DIR) Post #AFB2evSmA04k783lHU by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:15:00.296466Z
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Most of the time i talk to Christians about the bible its like arguing with a Schizo Hairy potter fan who thinks everything JK Rowling wrote isn't cannon but actually fan fiction some troon wrote on Tumblr is what really happened at Hogwarts
(DIR) Post #AFB2sJqYoWGxVFZTaS by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T22:18:20.406214Z
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@LorgarAurelian1488 Dusted off the old bible is harry potter bit. Now we've reached 2010 fedora nostalgia.
(DIR) Post #AFB2tqH3jdK2MegxwO by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:17:13.322058Z
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It's like nigga if you don't believe in the shit then how come every bible has it stapled on and I gotta ignore 5/6ths of the fucking thing to get to the shit you are talking about tacked on to the end?
(DIR) Post #AFB30cOLkQi7KtKicC by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:18:31.297966Z
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@ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran Moreover the whole point of the quote was that christians shouldn't do things because they expect reciprocal exchange, that's the literally the problem here.
(DIR) Post #AFB34lOEEeJoOwFkbg by jamesrourke@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:14:53.599887Z
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@Boomerman @LouisConde @Vsolid Been saying this for years.
(DIR) Post #AFB3LLyFzlxQUN12UC by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:21:30.873074Z
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@HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun Methinks you're starting to be a bit more honest
(DIR) Post #AFB3RjlWRN4E1Y6ScC by TinTin@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:22:43.660817Z
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its not about ignoring it, its about not taking the word of rabbi jewsteingoldenblatte who treats it the way you treat a marvel film on the matter
(DIR) Post #AFB3TlIphCz9N3eKOG by LorgarAurelian1488@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:23:14.283401Z
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I would never compare the Bible to Harry potter, I have more respect for it than that because it was written by men.
(DIR) Post #AFB3ZwHJnmLV9Gt1hg by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:24:28.152548Z
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@SuperLutheran @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun The White race is being genocided because we do nice things for non-Whites with no expectation of reciprocal action on their part, and "coincidentally" that's exactly what jesus tells you to do, and ignore your natural desire for self-preservation. And amazingly christianity was created by the very same people that are at the top of our society and orchestrating this genocide!
(DIR) Post #AFB3xTaa7TfP7W7Vmy by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:29:11.237791Z
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@HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun >Jesus tells people to be nice for niceness' sake>White Christians don't genocide themselves for 1900 years>bad stuff happened in the 20th century, therefore it's all a jewish plotLmao you're pretty silly dude
(DIR) Post #AFB4B9e742MHK2IJ1c by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:32:18.897561Z
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@SuperLutheran @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun Genocide ourselves with what? We've only created the technology needed to import massive amount of shitskins + built up the incentives to do so recently. If we had the same technology now as we did 1000 years ago then White genocide would have started 1000 years earlier.
(DIR) Post #AFB4Gi26dpwvQ4AKBM by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:33:25.904840Z
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@SuperLutheran @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun Genocide ourselves with what? We've only created the technology needed to import massive amounts of shitskins + built up the incentives to do so recently. If we had the same technology as we do now 1000 years ago then White genocide would have started 1000 years earlier.
(DIR) Post #AFB4TOUebHoQaDZDns by hapa_sympathiser@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:36:04.485234Z
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what, so did Jews foresee the creation of globohomo technology and just bide their time?
(DIR) Post #AFB4Tp9fTQ4JGwxLLE by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:36:12.952981Z
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@SuperLutheran @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun Spaniards created the El Goblino race in the Americas hundreds of years ago due to muh christianity.
(DIR) Post #AFB4Y0DAJ9l8inaIFc by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:37:01.929267Z
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@hapa_sympathiser @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran Technological improvement is natural and a good thing. The jews for example have massively benefited from technological advancement.
(DIR) Post #AFB4dLCZh2xfGoqzmi by hapa_sympathiser@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:38:02.504788Z
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ok and
(DIR) Post #AFB4lfwUSqHtueIwzY by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:39:32.425609Z
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@hapa_sympathiser @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran Technology has allowed the globohomo hellscape envisioned by christianity possible, and likewise it has allowed for the jews to have an ethnostate in hostile territory despite being vastly outnumbered. If you have a shitty morality then technology is a curse, if you have a good morality (like the Nazis did) then it's a boon.
(DIR) Post #AFB4nkBTfGKbeCIj7g by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:39:53.642117Z
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@hapa_sympathiser @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran Technology has allowed the globohomo hellscape envisioned by christianity to be possible, and likewise it has allowed for the jews to have an ethnostate in hostile territory despite being vastly outnumbered. If you have a shitty morality then technology is a curse, if you have a good morality (like the Nazis did) then it's a boon.
(DIR) Post #AFB4nyst0fNBEsiajA by Godcast@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:39:57.913549Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @PorkCow @Senpai-kun @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran that's not what you were saying the other week. The opposite, in fact
(DIR) Post #AFB4xHbSmZHNtw0KB6 by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:41:38.829440Z
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@hapa_sympathiser @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran This is why a lot of retards rail against technology, since they can't actually name the real problem.
(DIR) Post #AFB4ywX65nzJ8DknAm by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:41:56.240082Z
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So...most migrants are coming to our countries on boats. Lots of boats. So let's talk about boats for a second.Boats have been around for thousands of years. Big boats that can go across entire oceans have been around for five hundred years. Yet, curiously, the Church never advocated for racial suicide using migrants and boats.Around the same time as we started using boats across oceans, Jgang had a heavy hand in the slavery business putting africans in America...using boats. And they're still basically doing that.And still during this time in the 19th century, we weren't genociding ourselves, let alone using semi-Christian rhetoric to do it. No Christian church nor denomination was advocating for racial suicide - with or without boats.But suddenly, the past hundred years demonstrate to you that the BOAT RACE SUICIDE PLAN just wasn't viable until now - and this proves somehow that Christianity is all a plot by jews.
(DIR) Post #AFB50D5s0O9ImecfCa by hapa_sympathiser@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:42:10.423465Z
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so back to super's point, if christians were racist for 95% of their history then it doesn't really seem like a christian problem
(DIR) Post #AFB54xYPD1fG2IEbUu by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:43:02.059999Z
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@hapa_sympathiser @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran Christianity has never been racist, christians just lacked the tech needed to flood their countries with infinite shitskins. The tech was developed and it promptly happened.
(DIR) Post #AFB5AS2HJ1a81OpGGO by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T22:44:01.627284Z
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@hapa_sympathiser @HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @SuperLutheran More to the point, Christianity is a non-factor in racial politics.
(DIR) Post #AFB5Eyco59AkFm4O4e by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:44:49.952366Z
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You should pull the meth needle out of your arm for a sec and realize how much of a faggot you are. You pagang niggers are just the twitter internet tradcath phenomena but more niche and with less outward catboy posting. Please shoot yourself
(DIR) Post #AFB5IDprzA3IIUj9qC by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:45:25.608731Z
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I hate you infighting autistic religious faggots
(DIR) Post #AFB5JazNO5A6OapRxY by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:45:40.017056Z
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So why doesn't ANYONE in the Church talk like that for 1800 years? Literally NO ONE in our history was like "yep, Christian kalergi plan, that's us!" Until the 20th century when lots and lots of subversive agents started pouring into the churches.
(DIR) Post #AFB5QcHUyt7yQleZ6G by philmchawk@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:46:56.774596Z
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One of these is happening and the other happened.
(DIR) Post #AFB5TNrv1UribF0Z6m by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:47:26.912421Z
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@SuperLutheran @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun 1) Most shitskins come to the west via planes (or long-distance vessels), the refugee crisis is a drop in the bucked compared to the natural gradual browning of the west via never-ending brown immigration2) It's more than just the technology needed to bring them here, it's also the technology needed to sustain them here. There have been vast advances in technology needed to produce and efficiently transport food for example.
(DIR) Post #AFB5ZBevKaNOTBhGpk by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T22:48:29.833479Z
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@Vsolid @HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @hapa_sympathiser @SuperLutheran The bible fights will continue as long as people with secondaries and priors see white nationalism primarily as a vehicle for settling old scores.
(DIR) Post #AFB5amfNDyYnXFfWmO by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:48:44.624443Z
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@SuperLutheran @ArkyShrugger @hapa_sympathiser @Senpai-kun They did:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicut_JudaeisSicut Judaeis (Latin: "As the Jews") were papal bulls which set out the official position of the papacy regarding the treatment of Jews. The first bull by that name was issued in about 1120 by Calixtus II and served as a papal charter of protection to Jews. It was prompted by attacks on Jews by the First Crusade, during which over five thousand Jews were slaughtered in Europe. The bull forbade Christians, on pain of excommunication, from forcing Jews to convert, from harming them, from taking their property, from disturbing the celebration of their festivals, and from interfering with their cemeteries.
(DIR) Post #AFB5nlxHBECJ5tEgwi by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:51:02.538986Z
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"Don't go messing around with the jews" does not equal "let's go flood our countries and commit racial suicide." Come on, you're smarter than this, don't be a dummy
(DIR) Post #AFB5o2756XY1CvwkS0 by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:51:07.301294Z
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@Vsolid @ArkyShrugger @hapa_sympathiser @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran I'm not pagan, but go off troon
(DIR) Post #AFB5pqDKJh5ksjjJjc by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:51:28.266367Z
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Oh so you just dont believe in anything cool. Then shut the fuck up.
(DIR) Post #AFB5tx7oYzCPTU712u by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:52:14.982791Z
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@Vsolid @ArkyShrugger @hapa_sympathiser @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran I believe in the White race and our need to see it survive and flourish, that's infinitely more important than jewish fairytales.
(DIR) Post #AFB5xDPsRtfks07IFE by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T22:52:50.401579Z
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@Vsolid @HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @hapa_sympathiser @SuperLutheran Two_sonnenrads_fighting.jpg
(DIR) Post #AFB5zpXbfo73gsykme by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:53:14.700214Z
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No you dont you believe in starting shit online with people who would otherwise have no issues defending you. You are extremely online.
(DIR) Post #AFB62yWyhoTYRPBVNQ by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:53:52.846890Z
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@SuperLutheran @ArkyShrugger @hapa_sympathiser @Senpai-kun Yes it does, it's the beginnings of it. In 1960s the jews and their puppets weren't talking about the need for dismantling the White race, they were talking about how Whites need to stop being mean to shitskins. You asked for an example of christianity being anti-racist and this is an example of it being anti-racist 1000 years ago.
(DIR) Post #AFB6Gkez4eJNTXUxQ8 by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:56:21.136194Z
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@Senpai-kun @ArkyShrugger @SuperLutheran @Vsolid @hapa_sympathiser No more sonnenrad wars
(DIR) Post #AFB6PpaW7aGNMijq7c by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:57:53.823514Z
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@HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @hapa_sympathiser Nice goalposts shifting, but no, "Don't go around killings jews" does not equal antiracism. And besides, if it took 1100 years for such a statement to be produced, I'm pretty sure that means it's not some jewish antiracist conspiracy.
(DIR) Post #AFB6rhFKjG47bQ7K0e by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:03:02.829975Z
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@SuperLutheran @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @hapa_sympathiser Threatening excommunication for people who righteously kill jews after having enough of their oppression is anti-racism, every jewish pogrom was fully justified and if you don't think so that's exactly the kind of anti-White christcuck mindset I'm talking about. YOU are goalpost moving, you were talking about the effects of christianity seeping in only in this century but here is a clear example of it taking place 1000 years earlier.
(DIR) Post #AFB6xlXlfGDwfTdLwe by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:04:07.550326Z
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@SuperLutheran @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @hapa_sympathiser Threatening excommunication for people who righteously kill jews (or even just otherwise harass them in to gtfoing) after having enough of their oppression is anti-racism, every jewish pogrom was fully justified and if you don't think so that's exactly the kind of anti-White christcuck mindset I'm talking about. YOU are goalpost moving, you were talking about the effects of christianity seeping in only in this century but here is a clear example of it taking place 1000 years earlier.
(DIR) Post #AFB76zQRQCEgKObZwG by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:05:46.708480Z
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@SuperLutheran @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @hapa_sympathiser >christianity is based, how come the White race was based and racist for thousands of years under christianity???>uhhh not being mean to jews is actually a good thing and something that the church was right to threaten people with excommunication forYou people are literally just proto-antifa
(DIR) Post #AFB7ccHizdSHpEbo6i by ArkyShrugger@poa.st
2022-01-06T22:36:09.622522Z
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I'm no exegetical whiz, but God expects us to be smart and not suicidal, as well as generous to our neighbors. If you ask me for something, I need to evaluate your need versus my need to keep it. He allows us to have property, and commands us not to covet the property of others. If you just want to get richer from me, I'm free to decline.
(DIR) Post #AFB7f9jTbfwO8lngf2 by philmchawk@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:11:16.244978Z
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The only difference between christianties start and civil rights was that MLK didn't come back 3 days later.
(DIR) Post #AFB7qFuEzfLgTO7zxQ by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:13:59.216261Z
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@HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @hapa_sympathiser irishtimes.com/news/historian-claims-hitler-personally-approved-officers-of-jewish-descent-to-fight-for-nazis-1.58495en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_AgreementMan, Hitler and the Nazis were HUGE CUCKS for protecting and working with so many jews! Didn't even take them 1100 years, my goodness you should drop all of your political beliefs because he clearly didn't hate jews enough for your liking
(DIR) Post #AFB7uEeVb4Wlk7fQEC by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:14:42.659025Z
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@Vsolid @ArkyShrugger @hapa_sympathiser @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran I'm fine with people praying to whatever fairytales they want, but it's clear that christianity as an institution now is entirely pozzed, and in fact always was since the writing of the bible.
(DIR) Post #AFB83KyBTjNvwTD6CO by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:16:21.263601Z
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Have you considered that it is a RELIGION and not an institution lmao. I fucking assure you not a single christian in our thing respects "christian" institutions. If you believe that you are insane, which is why I think faggots like you are just acting in bad faith. Thus, seethe, dilate, kill yourself. Faggot
(DIR) Post #AFB86B3an4Hs4D5u40 by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:16:52.167321Z
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@SuperLutheran @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @hapa_sympathiser Was the church rounding up jews and planning to deport them to Madagascar? Hitler was seeking to solve the jewish question, christianity facilitated it for thousands of years.
(DIR) Post #AFB8FXTApXNMBVWWSe by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:18:33.584209Z
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@Vsolid @ArkyShrugger @hapa_sympathiser @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran Okay, and christians can pray to their jewish god in the privacy of their bedroom or w/e, I'm not demanding that they stop. However christianity needs to be cleansed from public life since it has been a complete traitor to our race.
(DIR) Post #AFB8MBDTxtcxC9LoCe by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:19:45.603395Z
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yes it is lol I was specifically doing a madhyamaka thing. explain the supposed contradiction
(DIR) Post #AFB8ZVh98c9OTLaA7M by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:22:10.131162Z
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@HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @hapa_sympathiser Nonono, throughout all of our conversations, your implied standard is rabid, almost mindless bloodlust against jews. Hitler didn't feel that way, so you should hate him as a race traitor.
(DIR) Post #AFB8fGg5sqQpdSprXc by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:23:06.011423Z
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I have never been betrayed by a white christian nor slighted by one, and many great men of history were white christians. Same with pagan or faithless. You faggots however spring out of nowhere to just agree and amplify jewish narratives about white christians with different packaging thinking you're slick. You don't get to call anyone a race traitor. I hope you die.
(DIR) Post #AFB8gDQtR0KTrPB3XU by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:23:22.386420Z
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@Godcast @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @PorkCow @Senpai-kun @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran
(DIR) Post #AFB8lJ202yB8fhxdbs by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:24:18.071150Z
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@Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @PorkCow @Senpai-kun @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran @shitgrifter
(DIR) Post #AFB8sZRPQxszapJHgu by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:25:36.911517Z
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@SuperLutheran @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @hapa_sympathiser What? There's a difference between state policy and the actions of lowly peasants. If the peasants were fed up with jewish parasitism then they were fully within their right to go and kill the jews in their area, or otherwise harass them in to GTFOing. This is not the best solution, a better solution would be what the Nazis did which is a humane and organized removal of jews from Europe, but I'm never going to condemn one of my White brothers for harming their oppressors.
(DIR) Post #AFB8sn2OskCRlJiVea by AR-15@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:25:39.289184Z
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Hitler lost because he let his friends put priests in camps but consult with occultists. This faggot wants to do the same thing only entirely on purpose.
(DIR) Post #AFB8vOYYMMaAhezxce by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:26:07.558193Z
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@SuperLutheran @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @hapa_sympathiser What? There's a difference between state policy and the actions of lowly peasants. If the peasants were fed up with jewish parasitism then they were fully within their right to go and kill the jews in their area, or otherwise harass them in to GTFOing. This is not the best solution, a better solution would be what the Nazis did which is a humane and organized removal of jews from Europe, but I'm never going to condemn one of my White brothers for punching-back against their oppressors, unlike you and other christians it seems.
(DIR) Post #AFB9089ukhYzINjR2G by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T23:26:58.920231Z
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@Vsolid @HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @hapa_sympathiser @SuperLutheran You don't have to hope too hard for that. He's already jabbed so it's a matter of time before the blood clots kick in.
(DIR) Post #AFB94Zqzj2QKLd0Drc by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:27:46.767009Z
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@Senpai-kun @ArkyShrugger @SuperLutheran @Vsolid @hapa_sympathiser just two more weeks right?
(DIR) Post #AFB97k7Q181N3KC6fw by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T23:28:21.450714Z
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@HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @SuperLutheran @Vsolid @hapa_sympathiser Depends how many boosters are you on
(DIR) Post #AFB9CLYukGMCL8FabI by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:29:11.367349Z
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@Senpai-kun @ArkyShrugger @SuperLutheran @Vsolid @hapa_sympathiser I'm going to get the booster soon, does that mean I'll be down to one week?
(DIR) Post #AFB9CqtYFaHhW790ZU by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:29:16.792071Z
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@AR-15 @ArkyShrugger @hapa_sympathiser @HyperboreanWave @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran This take is as insane and delusional as everything this faggot has been saying so I hope you're joking instead of pretending any part of WWII being lost had anything to do with make believe tales about muh satanic hitler and muh poor priests that suffered no persecution.
(DIR) Post #AFB9GeGN9pAjUwd3Gi by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:29:55.742389Z
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@Vsolid @AR-15 @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran @hapa_sympathiser These are your brothers in christ bro, they're schizos.
(DIR) Post #AFB9ICz1YPvlTEG4C8 by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:30:14.036778Z
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@HyperboreanWave @AR-15 @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran @hapa_sympathiser Look whos talking.
(DIR) Post #AFB9LDs4i2U55pRepE by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:30:47.506856Z
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@HyperboreanWave @Senpai-kun @ArkyShrugger @SuperLutheran @hapa_sympathiser You need a boost of vitamin D. Go outside
(DIR) Post #AFB9N8EUdyWwBWqE9Q by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:31:04.986738Z
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@Vsolid @AR-15 @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran @hapa_sympathiser A secular National Socialist, aka someone like Hitler.
(DIR) Post #AFB9QjLH81SS98jIBM by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:31:47.328311Z
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@Vsolid @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran @hapa_sympathiser I go outside everyday bud
(DIR) Post #AFB9VSJHsexmlp3LGK by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:32:37.989366Z
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@HyperboreanWave @AR-15 @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran @hapa_sympathiser Adolf Hitler well known for going out of his way to start shit with people that believe basically everything he does and in his lunacy deciding the best course of action is to completely erase 2000 years of white history. Sure nigger.
(DIR) Post #AFB9Z5iZorsprPcDQ0 by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:33:17.966028Z
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@HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran @hapa_sympathiser Walmart does not count
(DIR) Post #AFB9cDMzpHtOSf0iiO by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:33:51.549379Z
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@HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @hapa_sympathiser If it's "antiracist" or "protoantifa" for the Church to say "hey guys, knock it off with all the jew killing," then it's double super uncool antiracist and antifa for Hitler to be willing to WORK HAND IN HAND WITH JEWS. Going by your standards, they were all evil cuck race traitors.
(DIR) Post #AFB9iPjGmtsKWwNvkG by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:34:50.446961Z
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@Vsolid @AR-15 @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran @hapa_sympathiser Uhh ya pretty much, Hitler went out of his way to eliminate christianity from public life and the sectarian religious divisions within Germany.
(DIR) Post #AFB9lmvuyLB1MguTya by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:35:29.895407Z
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@Vsolid @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran @hapa_sympathiser I am a computer programmer, so I'm much more high status than most people including you probably.
(DIR) Post #AFB9x8FO4FSceeQSQK by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T23:37:38.691163Z
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@HyperboreanWave @Vsolid @ArkyShrugger @SuperLutheran @hapa_sympathiser Need Doopiss comic edit of Atlas but he's labeled "computer programmers" instead of "landlords."
(DIR) Post #AFB9xBD13WLXqAL6e0 by AR-15@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:37:37.599972Z
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You and I know better but he might not. I was curious to see what he would say to this but he didn't respond so now I'm the retard.
(DIR) Post #AFB9xC71hH9KdsXpwm by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:37:37.572912Z
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@HyperboreanWave @AR-15 @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran @hapa_sympathiser The SS legit had belt buckles enscribed with Gott mit uns lol. Himmler was supposed to be the most spergy of the crew too. You are off your rockers or a shill. To erase christianity from public life in Germany, the birthplace of Protestantism effectively, in less than 10 years is an absolutely fucking ridiculous thing to believe. Thats holocaust levels of coping on fedora juice, you would have to believe the libtard Psyker Hitler Mind Control narrative.
(DIR) Post #AFBAEh3ftU9lXgJyrI by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:40:49.126325Z
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@SuperLutheran @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @hapa_sympathiser Yes, just like leftists and antifa you feel the need to lie about what a White Nationalist is actually saying. Christcucks showing themselves to be proto-globohomo as always.Again, there was nothing immoral in European peasants, after being continuously oppressed by jews, from "harming" (as per the text of the bull) let alone killing, their jewish oppressors. That doesn't mean there is anything wrong with "working" (i.e. telling them to get in cattle cars) with the jews such that this oppression is ended.
(DIR) Post #AFBARNHKkI6rxekzGy by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:43:04.732683Z
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@Senpai-kun @ArkyShrugger @SuperLutheran @Vsolid @hapa_sympathiser I'm just stating facts, it's not my fault most people are too stupid to get in to a career where I can basically do nothing all day from home and get paid six figures for it.
(DIR) Post #AFBAm66nmID4n6iDlA by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:46:51.151541Z
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@HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @hapa_sympathiser Lol nice projection
(DIR) Post #AFBAo9IYtE4tGMBuDo by WhiteTemplar@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz
2022-01-06T23:43:57.471100Z
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@HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @SuperLutheran @Vsolid @hapa_sympathiser @Senpai-kun
(DIR) Post #AFBArh4JmzP8rtDdZ2 by Vsolid@poa.st
2022-01-06T23:47:51.915929Z
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@HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran @hapa_sympathiser >sockwearerexplains a lot
(DIR) Post #AFBBYEh99qK5JwfNh2 by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T23:55:33.339636Z
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@HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @SuperLutheran @Vsolid @hapa_sympathiser I took a hefty pay cut to dislodge myself from the system. I can see how a married man might be trapped by obligation but I think a bachelor has less of an excuse to stay plugged in after 2020.
(DIR) Post #AFBBkZ4dDR4201WvMu by wypipo@shitposter.club
2022-01-06T23:57:33.637491Z
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@Senpai-kun @HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @SuperLutheran @Vsolid @hapa_sympathiser I live in a cabin in the middle of nowhere, never been happier
(DIR) Post #AFBCD8DO9fMl62FQOW by nameredacted@poa.st
2022-01-07T00:02:56.589791Z
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@Vsolid @HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @hapa_sympathiser @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran Sometimes I think it would've of been better to keep bible written only in latin so that you have to dedicate your life to the church or at minimum learn latin before you get to claim you fully understand the ins and outs of christianity. It would at least cut down on all the bible fights in our circles.
(DIR) Post #AFBH3mkB799lfYwoNs by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-07T00:57:07.359467Z
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@Vsolid @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran @hapa_sympathiser You're using a product developed by programmers rn bud
(DIR) Post #AFBHFaJZ9SoKb07tWy by HyperboreanWave@poa.st
2022-01-07T00:59:23.144276Z
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@nameredacted @Vsolid @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran @hapa_sympathiser This is another thing WN christians don't want to talk about, "muh christianity wasn't gay before", but that was at a time when most people couldn't actually read it.
(DIR) Post #AFBHkGCvxVdnDDeSG0 by MelGibsonafter4Beers@poa.st
2022-01-07T01:04:49.248390Z
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@LouisConde Checkmate atheists
(DIR) Post #AFBHsfV1oAgRyD7lIG by nameredacted@poa.st
2022-01-07T01:06:24.190865Z
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@HyperboreanWave @ArkyShrugger @Senpai-kun @SuperLutheran @Vsolid @hapa_sympathiser I don't buy into that medieval european's couldn't read shit, they couldn't read latin because you basically had to become a priest or a monk to learn.
(DIR) Post #AFBdRz6P1127wLHrG4 by SethApex@poa.st
2022-01-07T05:02:30.119963Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @SuperLutheran @Donald_McRonald @LouisConde @PorkCow @Senpai-kun @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon >Capacity for awakening is an inherent feature of the nature of the mindMaybe within the material universe where there is a difference between potentiality and actuality, but we have no way of knowing if that state of affairs carries on or if it doesn't. And if people are capable of changing their mind after this life, why couldn't it go the other way? Why can't people go from "liberation" and fall back into attachment? How did we come to be not liberated in the first place? Where did souls in the dharmic cycle come from and why weren't they made liberated in the first place? If we are all stuck in the cycle until we achieve Nirvana, and that's the only way out, why does the cycle exist in the first place? Why bother testing people when there is only one answer and they have infinite attempts to get it right? A real test would have a right answer and a wrong one, and no do-overs. So if life is meant to be a test, then it might as well be a real one. So if you're right and I'm wrong, and the test does have do-overs, then I get do-overs until I get it right. But if you are wrong and I am right, then you don't get a do-over and you better hope that a life full of pretending like evil is just an illusion of attachment is good enough when you stand in your judgement.
(DIR) Post #AFBe8ufrM3W0etLFSq by SethApex@poa.st
2022-01-07T05:09:49.466022Z
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@Senpai-kun @PorkCow @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran @shitgrifter Hell isn't sadistic. God gets no pleasure out of people going to Hell. People go there because they decide to choose themselves over the love of God. They are then consumed by the sins through which they have defined themselves, as opposed to those in heaven who have chosen to let the love of God define them and are thereby consumed by that.
(DIR) Post #AFBf6RgsFCSE8tCfz6 by SethApex@poa.st
2022-01-07T05:19:46.285598Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @SuperLutheran @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @PorkCow @Senpai-kun @shitgrifter @ShtPoastAnon What makes you think that the cause ever runs out when we are talking about a reality beyond the material realm's conception of space and especially time. There is no end to Hell because there is no end to a sin that has not been resolved before the person dies. They have chosen to define themselves in that moment in terms of that sin, and if they are taken then, they will continue in that state eternally, just as the man who defines himself by the love of God and dies in that state of grace will continue in that eternally.
(DIR) Post #AFBgiyQP5RoqcmR2Aa by SethApex@poa.st
2022-01-07T05:34:29.297639Z
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@Senpai-kun @PorkCow @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran @shitgrifter Material observation is based on a number of unprovable claims. Besides questions of the reliability of your senses, the scientific method itself, also known as induction, is actually just a special deductive arguement with a hidden premise, that the future will resemble the past. We take this unstated and unprovable premise on faith, because it always has held and we don't have very good reason do doubt it. But under a hyperskeptical perspective, the premise just doesn't actually stand up to scrutiny. So what if the future has so far resembled the past, maybe it won't tomorrow? We have no reason to assume that it will, the ground could drop out from under your feet when you get up tomorrow. The only grounding we could possibly have to believe such a premise is that there is some entity or force outside of the universe keeping things consistent. We call this entity God and we assign to him the attributes that he would have to have to be this entity. That's what we call natural theology. And if you would like to continue to believe in your "material observations" you actually need to believe in something like Him to justify all those beliefs.
(DIR) Post #AFCXE9aWpLQNqAMNEG by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-07T15:32:03.349502Z
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@SethApex (detagging the hellthread)>What makes you think that the cause ever runs out when we are talking about a reality beyond the material realm's conception of space and especially timethere are a lot of key terms there that need to be unpacked in order for us to proceed, starting with "cause," "reality," and "material realm." "space" and "time" are maybe even a further category>There is no end to Hell because there is no end to a sin that has not been resolved before the person diesthis is a claim, not an argumentas for the argument, I think we need to be careful to define our terms. I am defining "cause" as something that has one and only one effect. once the causal power of the cause has been exhausted, it itself cannot produce any further effects. however, we need to be careful to distinguish first-order from second-order (which is to say n-order) causality. causes (1) produce effects (2) which themselves produce further effects (3). the effects at time 3 are directly caused by the effects at time 2, not the effects at time 1, but the effects at time 1 are in some abstract or metaphorical way contributing to the causal characteristics of the effects at time 3.on this note, for the purposes of this discussion, it is worth highlighting that Buddhists very much had an internal debate along these lines. it has in the past been taught by some Buddhists that certain beings (particularly those in the lowest hells) are beyond salvation. the idea essentially is that there is something about the causal makeup of a being in these kinds of hells that prevents them from ever being able to escape. as a movement, however, the Mahayana rejected this perspective approximately 1500 years ago.
(DIR) Post #AFCw1Xla7SYNuwc6ue by Keeeth@eveningzoo.club
2022-01-07T20:08:00.112233Z
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@MelGibsonafter4Beers @LouisConde 640x480 is the way it’s supposed to be.
(DIR) Post #AFHcz1UiokTZgpa5WS by SethApex@poa.st
2022-01-10T01:27:56.840003Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj It is actually pretty common for causes to have multiple effects. But I'll humor your strange definition.The the cause is your orientation towards or away from God at death and the effect is the continuing in that direction for the rest of eternity. I fail to see how this doesn't meet your 1 cause and 1 effect notion. Additionally while our positions, yours of reincarnation and mine of judgement are both claims, the whole point of this thread is that siding with my claim is a safer bet because, at worst, if I'm wrong I get another go around to get it right. If you're wrong, at worst, you end up in Hell for eternity.
(DIR) Post #AFHcz1zYy597EU0iau by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-10T02:31:11.123004Z
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@SethApex one cause may have "multiple effects" metaphorically or in terms of conceptualizing the variegation of its causal power. But the principle is that a cause is only active in the present moment, and once it has exerted its causal power, it can no longer exert any causal power. So your example is invalid because you're talking about a cause that continues producing effects even after it has ceased. Non existent (because no longer existent) causes cannot produce effects.
(DIR) Post #AFIb1Pbu7YPcJRub7g by SethApex@poa.st
2022-01-10T03:48:35.289767Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj the orientation of the person toward or away from God does not cease when he dies, if anything that is when he is locked into it. The people in Hell prefer it there to being in the presence of God.
(DIR) Post #AFIb1QI5ai9kQHeHsO by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-10T13:43:55.657380Z
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@SethApex>the orientation of the person toward or away from God does not cease when he diesThis is an assertion, not an argument. It's also self-contradictory and illogical, for the reasons outlined above
(DIR) Post #AFIhVns94z4JyLNq5Y by SethApex@poa.st
2022-01-10T14:20:15.071142Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj You are asserting that the cause of being in hell ceases at death. All I'm saying is you could be wrong and if you are you won't have the chance to regret it.
(DIR) Post #AFIhiGv2uTgxXBgZQe by JustJohnny@poa.st
2022-01-10T14:58:54.521079Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @SethApex No it's not illogical or self-contradictory, and it doesn't matter if something is logical or not faggot. Things exist which are illogical, their being logical or not has no bearing on whether they exist.
(DIR) Post #AFIhz5q9M2VY62Pt6O by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-10T15:01:56.915317Z
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@SethApex >You are asserting that the cause of being in hell ceases at deathNo. This is where greater familiarity with Buddhist teaching would be helpful. I am, pointedly, saying basically the opposite of this. What I am saying is that the cause of being in hell is negative actions (karma just means "action"). Actions have results. Causes have effects. The result of negative actions of sufficient gravity is rebirth in hell. However, once those results have been experienced, the causal power of the actions which created them is exhausted. A cause cannot continue to produce effects even after it has already produced its effect.What you are asserting is an unprincipled exception to these rules. You are saying that there is one very special cause, "the orientation toward God of a human [but not any other type of sentient] being at the time of death," which can continue producing effects indefinitely, even after it has already produced its effect (namely, the moment of rebirth in hell after the moment of death)
(DIR) Post #AFIjXIlRuQ2vyp5rQO by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-10T15:19:19.989149Z
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@JustJohnny @SethApex >things exist which are illogicalsuch as? we could say that e.g. tranny shit is "illogical" and I would agree, but that's not the sense we're using "illogical" here. tranny shit has a well-established causal history
(DIR) Post #AFInPxSD8pSFg1qgUa by hourmutt@poa.st
2022-01-10T16:02:49.667894Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @SethApex What exactly is your objection here? That there is an indefinite effect at all or that that an indefinite effect is produced by a definite cause?
(DIR) Post #AFIoD2OtXTtpCwhVIW by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-10T16:11:41.438841Z
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@hourmutt @SethApex I don't quite understand what you mean by "indefinite," but assuming you mean "of non-momentary duration" then I object to the idea that any phenomenon (whether "cause" or "effect") could exist for a non-momentary duration
(DIR) Post #AFIrTvlVlHDDPl1gS8 by hourmutt@poa.st
2022-01-10T16:48:22.002718Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @SethApex How does this work practically? If there is an instantaneous force on a ball (surely a momentary cause) that causes it to start rolling down a ramp, what exactly is the effect of that initial cause? Is the rolling that proceeds then a series of infinite momentary causes and effects?
(DIR) Post #AFIs99AKqOCmqdI5Mu by cirnog@poa.st
2022-01-10T16:55:48.896839Z
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@Senpai-kun @PorkCow @DK_Dharmaraj @Donald_McRonald @Godcast @LouisConde @ShtPoastAnon @SuperLutheran >one does not simply will oneself into believing unproven claims about the nature of the universe.Yes one does, it's called the axiomatic method and it's the basis of all mathematical and scientific thought. You take some claim that is by definition unproven and explore it's consequences to determine your belief in it.
(DIR) Post #AFIsFU3W5XGTNI7gno by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-10T16:56:57.560087Z
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@cirnog I'm sorry you had to see this even though it's a week old lol, it's gonna get bad if you keep scrolling
(DIR) Post #AFIsMTaSEHtPwprbl2 by cirnog@poa.st
2022-01-10T16:58:13.470277Z
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@Senpai-kun Oh no is this THAT hellthread? I never saw the beginning of it just random posts on my feed
(DIR) Post #AFItMf0zq8hJLUvjpw by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-10T17:09:27.715839Z
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@hourmutt @SethApex >is the rolling that proceeds then a series of infinite momentary causes and effectsthe short answer is yes. a slightly longer answer is that, strictly speaking, the only candidates for "cause" or "phenomenon" are momentary partless or elementary particles. so while we can speak metaphorically of the force or the ball or the person who pushed the ball (etc.) as "causes," strictly speaking in terms of a more refined analysis we would have to drill down into what specifically we're talking about
(DIR) Post #AFItX9gydcUrNvZRVw by Senpai-kun@shitposter.club
2022-01-10T17:11:21.633871Z
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@cirnog Trust me if you see DK and Godcast in the tags you're gonna need a hazmat suit.
(DIR) Post #AFItclWNPynE9pHtJ2 by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-10T17:12:22.260510Z
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@hourmutt @SethApex I should add, "in the context of this example" to the preceding explanation. there are of course immaterial phenomena, but these are still momentary and partless (i.e., ontologically simple and unique)
(DIR) Post #AFItulatsxWFb1zGIS by cirnog@poa.st
2022-01-10T17:15:37.595271Z
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@Senpai-kun BAIL OUTABANDON THREAD
(DIR) Post #AFIumMr64zwYVY7cOG by hourmutt@poa.st
2022-01-10T17:25:18.814669Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @SethApex In Catholic philosophy we often abstract causes and effects. We would refer to the ball rolling down from it's intial to its final potential as a single effect and the pushing as a single cause even if it's not instantaneous. It's not that it's not a series of infinitesimal causes and effects, it's just more useful to "integrate" it and speak of it as a single phenomenon for telelogical purposes.On a somewhat related note, I'm interested in the Buddhist conception of the will. How does a sentient being produce an effect on the world? Does that will persist across reincarnation?
(DIR) Post #AFIyXipEVt5K7SWQ9A by JustJohnny@poa.st
2022-01-10T18:07:29.226665Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj @SethApex Good example, you're saying so.ething can't exist if it's illogical and we see that illogical things exist, you yourself made a statement which contradicts itself. You said something like 'God can't exist because it's not logical for him to exist' reality doesn't follow this rule. Actually the existence of God is more logical than thinking that our existence and the universe came into being from rocks banging together in a way that is not possible to reproduce and scientifically is impossible.
(DIR) Post #AFJDafs3S9dl8ZhvfM by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-10T20:56:05.650850Z
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@hourmutt @SethApex >We would refer to the ball rolling down from its initial to its final potential as a single effect and the pushing as a single cause even if it's not instantaneousSo, obviously this kind of abstraction may have a heuristic purpose, for example with respect to ethical analysis. We can talk about someone who pushed a boulder down a hill in order to kill someone at the bottom of it as a certain kind of moral agent, the pushing of the boulder as a certain kind of action, the death of the person at the bottom of the hill as a certain kind of result or effect, and so on. Heuristically, conceptually, as an abstraction, that's fine. But from a Buddhist perspective the ontological considerations are never going to be negated or superseded by the practical "usefulness" of the heuristic fiction. It's always the other way around: concepts (paradigmatically including universals) have no ontological reality of their own, and are only "designatedly existent." Any "utility" ascribed to them must therefore be circumscribed by their lack of reality in comparison to "substantially-existent" particulars>On a somewhat related note, I'm interested in the Buddhist conception of the will. How does a sentient being produce an effect on the world? Does that will persist across reincarnation?As you rightly guess this is an enormous topic. For a reasonably brief overview, I'd check out Maria Heim's "The Forerunner of All Things," which skews Theravada but it's a presentation of classical Buddhist theory so it's fine (the Mahayana perspective isn't so much different as recontextualized by Buddha Nature theory, which is a whole other giant can of worms).The shortest answer I can give you is that "will" (iccha) is 1) something that Buddhist analysis from the very beginning is keen to problematize in various ways and 2) something that is not generally a major focus of analysis as a category. for example it is deliberately excluded from the list of the five "bundles" or "heaps" or "aggregates" that comprise the psychophysical continuum of a sentient being, being instead generally subsumed under the broader category of mental "formations" or "complexes"as for the will persisting across reincarnation: no. generally speaking rebirth is seen as a strictly causal process, the idea being that one is "swept up" or "propelled" by one's karma. as the aggregate of formations changes, so does the will change
(DIR) Post #AFKhJ53zh3FDbOdoWG by SethApex@poa.st
2022-01-11T04:14:12.230188Z
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@DK_Dharmaraj have you ever dealt with an addict?
(DIR) Post #AFKhJ5Ua6CVmvr52xc by DK_Dharmaraj@poa.st
2022-01-11T14:03:46.215694Z
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@SethApexI'm not entirely sure what purpose this example is supposed to serve, but assuming it's something like "addicts keep behaving a certain way" I'd ask you to read the poast belowTLDR in terms of causal analysis we're talking about a series of momentary causes and effects. "Addiction" is precisely the kind of useful heuristic fiction mentioned here, but has no ontological reality of its own, separate from the momentary physiological and psychological processes that comprise it. Put slightly differently, the idea here is that "addiction" is like any other latent psychophysical formation, it necessarily exists in a causal series with the preceding moment being the cause of the present moment and so on.poa.st/@DK_Dharmaraj/posts/AFJDadWF1ZbwGXuHcu