Post AF48FVbJQaZsNVNKoy by loweel@boseburo.ddns.net
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(DIR) Post #AF1qxP96bM39bp2l4C by clacke@libranet.de
2022-01-02T10:27:36Z
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Hong Kong has detected dozens of covid cases, all imported. Extensive contact tracing and mandatory testing has been performed and no local spread has been detected. It is suspected to be mostly omicron strain. Restrictions for air cargo personnel have been tightened. People who can work from home are recommended to do so.Over the last two years HK has had 12667 known covid cases and 213 confirmed covid deaths. https://www.coronavirus.gov.hk/eng/#hongkong #covid
(DIR) Post #AF1qxPlkHgxTXf7cIK by nosat@liberdon.com
2022-01-02T11:52:20Z
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@clacke213 deaths is insignificant from a public health perspective, no action is required life should go back to normal with resignations and prosecutions of public servants that caused more harm with oppressive restrictions.
(DIR) Post #AF1u0PgxKNl2290FhA by clacke@libranet.de
2022-01-02T12:25:56Z
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@nosat It is the result of action.
(DIR) Post #AF1y4xNWQJvDUAKpHM by clacke@libranet.de
2022-01-02T12:47:44Z
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Had the rest of the world acted on the first warning like the people of HK did even before their government did, there wouldn't have been an omicron strain to import.
(DIR) Post #AF1y4xlyxNUIi1mMPA by nosat@liberdon.com
2022-01-02T13:12:09Z
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@clacke š¤£ , if I had not robbed you of your wallet then someone else would have robbed you of your wallet and car, so you need to be thankful for my actions.Corona - The simple truth in under 6 minuteshttps://peertube.biz/w/59cDzfpMKq1KhTXmxuAmh8
(DIR) Post #AF21crxPNxiCNdz05Y by clacke@libranet.de
2022-01-02T13:50:40Z
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@nosat That video is wildly inaccurate. To just take the worst lie, a bad influenza season kills 1000 people in Sweden and ends in February. The covid-19 season never quite ended and will soon pass 15000 Swedes. Flu seasons don't generally swamp intensive care units and delay other urgent care.In Hong Kong, thanks to awareness and measures since 2003, flu deaths in any given year are kept at around a tenth of what Sweden has in any given year. These two years flu deaths have been near zero and covid deaths have been a hundredth of Sweden's.
(DIR) Post #AF22065L1Zg4rElfN2 by nosat@liberdon.com
2022-01-02T13:56:07Z
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@clacke "These two years flu deaths have been near zero and covid deaths have been a hundredth" This is because flu deaths were fraudulently marked as covid deaths.You need to look at aggregate death stats to see that there was no spike in excess deaths, which means there was no pandemic.
(DIR) Post #AF24KBW8jjwtPD0hrE by clacke@libranet.de
2022-01-02T14:21:55Z
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@nosat In Sweden there were excess deaths on similar levels as the covid deaths in the first year, but in the second year you'd get a "scorched earth" effect because so many old people died, so in the second year the net effect was about balanced out. Once the pandemic is past us, Sweden will have a deficiency in deaths as the remaining people will have a higher projected longevity.That doesn't mean nothing, that means thousands of life-years lost.
(DIR) Post #AF252r9ZIRmNHLknFQ by valhalla@social.gl-como.it
2022-01-02T14:18:24Z
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In Italy there have been 15% excess deaths in 2020 compared to the average in 2015-2019. And this includes the fact that deaths in the age range 0-49 was *lower* than average, with significant less traffic and work accidents.Source in Italian: https://www.istat.it/it/files//2021/03/Report_ISS_Istat_2020_5_marzo.pdfThat report was published on 5th March 2021, I'd expect a similar report for 2021 to arrive around the same time this year.
(DIR) Post #AF26g00AQrNTyAaKjA by clacke@libranet.de
2022-01-02T14:48:23Z
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@nosat The graph in the thumbnail shows that interventions came too late to be effective, which is exactly what I said.
(DIR) Post #AF2xON0fRfKFgaIXLs by nosat@liberdon.com
2022-01-03T00:39:12Z
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@clacke It shows interventions came after the peak, meaning it was already in natural decline.
(DIR) Post #AF2xaudsE7MnTBcJpw by lxo@gnusocial.net
2022-01-02T16:48:17Z
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meanwhile, in Brazil, there's another epidemic going on, of H3N2 influenza. thanks to high covid-19 vaccination coverage, death counts have been much lower than at the worst of the pandemic, but because the flu shots didn't cover for H3N2, it's spreading a lot and evolving to severe cases and deaths, with counts higher than those of covid-19and, since the Brazilian government has taken an anti-science, conspiracy-theory-based stance throughout the pandemic, conspiranoids in Brazil are spreading rumors that it's the covid-19 cases that are being miscounted as influenza. oh joys...that reminds me of a technique my uncle and I have developed to seek truth in political rumors we got from our non-overlapping social media bubbles. we'd tell each other about what passed for news in each of our bubbles and try to find the common elements in the conflicting narratives. that was likely to be true. everything else was uncertain.
(DIR) Post #AF2xav32iXV2jFOQ4G by nosat@liberdon.com
2022-01-03T00:41:26Z
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@lxo Independent analysis of Pfizer vaccine trial data uncovers skewed methodology and shows no risk reduction benefit.https://peertube.biz/w/orf98w7YoB3uv8wXjGQ6z9
(DIR) Post #AF2xgSpSY326wjgQee by clacke@libranet.de
2022-01-03T00:42:24Z
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@nosat Exactly, so they couldn't lower the peak and save lives, unlike Hong Kong, which acted in January.
(DIR) Post #AF2y4skro8x4IvB8gy by nosat@liberdon.com
2022-01-03T00:46:52Z
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@clacke This is speculation, have you compared previous flu seasons for HK vs other places, it is possible HK always has lower flu death rates.They acted early because they had protests and it was a great excuse to implement martial law.
(DIR) Post #AF30D5MqzvG1e9zCnA by nosat@liberdon.com
2022-01-03T01:10:46Z
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@valhalla @clacke Is there an English version?You piked the country with the highest death rate in the world. Italy also has the highest elderly population in Europe. Most countries experience no or minimal change in death rate.They were killing old people in mass by putting everyone one ventilators in Italy.You need to look at aggregate avg for the word or continent an you will see there was no change.
(DIR) Post #AF3g6NXLF82k2rNNz6 by valhalla@social.gl-como.it
2022-01-03T08:55:32Z
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I don't think that there is an English version, since it comes from an Italian agency.There should be an EU wide data collection, but I don't know whether they published reports or where to find the data. It was quoted in the report, but only with a few example countries (which all had an excess death rate, some lower than Italy, some even higher).(And I choose Italy because that's where I live, and where I know where to find this kind of data)
(DIR) Post #AF3gEsBFC8V9Ow5gCu by valhalla@social.gl-como.it
2022-01-03T09:01:35Z
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btw, what do you mean āputting everyone one ventilatorsā?in the first few months many people died because they started to informally try to keep the very old (80+) from entering hospitals to save the limited spaces for the merely old (60-80) who had bigger chances of survival, and there was a lack of medical staff per ICU compared to the standard (the former no longer happens, the latter I believe still does).
(DIR) Post #AF3j2X93sRJoY6sT8i by lxo@gnusocial.net
2022-01-03T08:45:30Z
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interesting. what's the explanation for the natural decline? (sorry if it's in the video, video doesn't really work for me, and I even gave it a try but couldn't get it to play, neither on the browser, nor with a youtube-dl download that was weird, it used to support peertube.
(DIR) Post #AF3j2XdC4PQC3YyX6e by nosat@liberdon.com
2022-01-03T09:33:03Z
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@lxo Weird, it as a direct download option on lower right o video frame.
(DIR) Post #AF3j4Ps5tKGWZMq4R6 by nosat@liberdon.com
2022-01-03T09:33:26Z
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@lxo Weird, it has a direct download option on lower right of video frame.
(DIR) Post #AF3tVvDmRO4L9wjkGG by clacke@libranet.de
2022-01-03T11:30:15Z
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@nosat Hong Kong normally has about 10% the flu deaths Sweden has, because HK people and institutions are just more careful. In the pandemic HK has had less than 2% the covid deaths Sweden has, even though HK was hit first.Until the second or third wave it looked like the pandemic would actually save lives, as the measures stopped the flu season in its tracks.When the epidemic hit, before it was a pandemic, people masked up and limited contact immediately, without a word from the government. Then the companies had people work 100% from home where possibly, while figuring out a measured strategy.Limiting outdoor crowds was the authoritarian move, but that came much later. Border controls weren't instituted for weeks, even in the face of medical unions demanding border controls, because the government was worried about the economy.
(DIR) Post #AF3u3VK9EUFagbjEEy by nosat@liberdon.com
2022-01-03T11:36:31Z
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@clacke That is a nice narrative you have created for yourself. Have you considered that people in HK are just healthier in general and the severe flu (covid) did not affect them as much just like every year.My issue is that person to person virus transmission as never been scientifically proven, it is just a theory.Virology in general is pseudoscience, having no scientific basis.https://noagendatube.com/videos/watch/23765a3e-aa89-45d5-889a-d1d59e108df9
(DIR) Post #AF3uQsEwCK3MQ3R1n6 by clacke@libranet.de
2022-01-03T11:40:40Z
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@nosat Ok, you just lost the last tendril of a connection to solid ground. Germ theory and virology are the rock foundation of longevity increases in the 20th century.It was interesting talking to you.
(DIR) Post #AF3unwiTijMcxmFoMy by nosat@liberdon.com
2022-01-03T11:44:54Z
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@clacke Chronic illness has skyrocketed in the last 100 yearsYou are so confident that you will not even look at the information.Have a good one . š
(DIR) Post #AF3v3GaA8rBYv5faIi by lxo@gnusocial.net
2022-01-03T11:12:04Z
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to me it's just "javascript required", and it's far too much javascript for me to audit just to try to watch a video
(DIR) Post #AF3v3H16WgjiGeH6IK by nosat@liberdon.com
2022-01-03T11:47:40Z
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@lxo No problem, here is the direct download linkhttps://peertube.biz/download/streaming-playlists/hls/videos/2189aeda-7311-43d1-a117-4d4a5678ad67-480-fragmented.mp4
(DIR) Post #AF3vEtThrtQWjrC6q0 by loweel@boseburo.ddns.net
2022-01-03T11:47:12.193765Z
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@nosat @valhalla @clacke keep ongoing, pls. Italians are very happy when some stranger explains them what they have seen, telling them how it was according with local TV. really, they will love you.
(DIR) Post #AF3vEttEKzqM118Uca by nosat@liberdon.com
2022-01-03T11:49:46Z
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@loweel @clacke @valhalla and they will suffer more if they do not wake up to the fraud
(DIR) Post #AF3vs2b3toOKJUIkkq by loweel@boseburo.ddns.net
2022-01-03T11:53:20.275677Z
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@nosat @clacke @valhalla well, you know, Italy is the fashion country. Tin foil hat is not that popular.
(DIR) Post #AF3vs3489jdxldty40 by nosat@liberdon.com
2022-01-03T11:56:50Z
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@loweel @clacke @valhalla then take yours off and start looking at evidencePfizer vaccine trial data shows the injection has no benefithttps://peertube.biz/w/orf98w7YoB3uv8wXjGQ6z9
(DIR) Post #AF3w3pB7c8zOAimrJI by nosat@liberdon.com
2022-01-03T11:58:59Z
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@Nil01 @clacke past life expectancy data is skewed due to high birth mortality rates, people lived the same duration in the past as they do now, only with far less illness
(DIR) Post #AF3wPf4tqcXFDWI0au by loweel@boseburo.ddns.net
2022-01-03T11:57:33.522925Z
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@nosat @clacke @valhalla Oh, look, there is a video on peertube saying things.Incredible. Must be true.
(DIR) Post #AF3wPfYg3uM2hsDn0a by nosat@liberdon.com
2022-01-03T12:02:55Z
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@loweel @clacke @valhalla oh look there is a guy on TV with a suit on, must be true
(DIR) Post #AF48FVbJQaZsNVNKoy by loweel@boseburo.ddns.net
2022-01-03T13:53:19.372445Z
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@nosat @clacke @valhalla oh, look, I studied math , and the numbers you show in the video make no sense. Must be an idiot, without any skill in statistics, who made the video.
(DIR) Post #AF48FWBpEpmiCkSUjY by nosat@liberdon.com
2022-01-03T14:15:32Z
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@loweel @clacke @valhalla name calling and proclaiming your high intelligence does not debunk the video