Post AF43pUdhyova3CprOK by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
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(DIR) Post #AF3wyrS3ppZHjDuJdI by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-03T12:09:16.296808Z
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I love #PeerTube as a project, and have been running an instance basically forever, but my experience on finding stuff to watch is almost as difficult as it is to find people who want to be part of my instance.Make no mistake: I can basically afford to run my instance for years to come, and plan to keep it on for some time. But, I feel as though my attempt to make a little community for video creators just isn't really progressing in any way. It feels really frustrating.Making videos is fun, but it also feels like a lot of effort for very little payoff in my case. Every now and then, I make a new effort, but it just feels like I'm politely speaking into the void.Maybe I'm just bad at this.
(DIR) Post #AF3xPC93WHfLRAZhE8 by christoffer@snabelen.no
2022-01-03T12:11:45Z
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@sean commercialization is the big factor I think
(DIR) Post #AF3xPCYE0hnahELnSS by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-03T12:14:00.145215Z
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@christoffer yeah, it's hard to get people to switch off of places like YouTube, which remains a massive hub of millions of hours of monetized content.
(DIR) Post #AF3xY1lFUqEbq1eQCW by lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net
2022-01-03T12:13:59Z
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@sean You know Sepia Search ?
(DIR) Post #AF3xY2B7wcw18Hl5XM by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-03T12:15:37.595291Z
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@lienrag I do, I wrote a big article about the content situation on PeerTube a while back, and SepiaSearch was something I touched on.Sepia is...not very good for discovery.https://deadsuperhero.com/peertube-content-wasteland/
(DIR) Post #AF3y81LuUeBIzmxhaK by otyugh@pouet.chapril.org
2022-01-03T12:22:06Z
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@sean I love the peertube's idea too. As a user thought, using old computers most of the time and having an unstable connexion, peertube is problematic. I very often need to stop watching from peertube and look for the equivalent on youtube because I'm stuck loading a video. Even when I need to extract it, I can usually find more appropriate lightweight format from some heavyweight website than the equivalent peertube video.To that point selfhosted htlm5 directdownload video felt better. :(
(DIR) Post #AF3yAK4pqYUVeF4aK8 by eviloatmeal@linuxrocks.online
2022-01-03T12:19:50Z
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@sean Discoverability seems to be one of those extremely difficult problems. It's a pain point in smaller projects I've been involved with, and even the biggest projects in the world, like Youtube and Netflix, take the stance of "if we just shove enough recommended content down the user's throat, maybe we won't need to implement discoverability." It's something you notice as soon as you're actually trying to search for content on these platforms.
(DIR) Post #AF3ynpBa7Q2ZQM43LU by espen@fed.im
2022-01-03T12:26:42Z
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@sean @christoffer I'd agree that PeerTube feels like the "odd" one in some respects. Maybe it because there is no sharing by default between instances?
(DIR) Post #AF3ynpa2eTbeeDVaTI by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-03T12:29:36.575410Z
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@espen @christoffer Maybe. As an admin, you kind of have to make an effort to follow a bunch of other places first, just to ensure that you and other people on your instance have something to watch.My instance follows 40 others, and it still feels like a slow trickle sometimes.
(DIR) Post #AF3ywLNCKZ3pZHYmky by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-03T12:31:14.757904Z
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@otyugh On the bright side, this is somewhat improved when instances use ObjectStorage to host their videos. A decent amount of instances support this now, so a lot of videos load better than they used to.
(DIR) Post #AF3zx5lpvU8hQB0OEC by otyugh@pouet.chapril.org
2022-01-03T12:42:31Z
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@sean I mean there is the bandwith issue, there is also the optimisation of the videoreader, my computer fan goes out of control and I can't do anything else.And the videos format available... When you get like me with 100 to less ko/s you can't just go for most peertube video without screaming in pain most of the time because the only option is 720p and can get extra-heavy (sometimes >1Go for <1h videos)So yeah, I wish I used peertube most of the time. In practicality, I can't :s
(DIR) Post #AF407MT4hUcs6S7tvE by otyugh@pouet.chapril.org
2022-01-03T12:43:44Z
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@sean But it wasn't the issue you were pointing out, sorry for the unrelated enduser-rant. You were talking about the creator's community.
(DIR) Post #AF40S6Oxd7SCM65m3E by espen@fed.im
2022-01-03T12:43:44Z
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@sean @christoffer Yeah, I took a look at that with mine and figures I couldn't be bothered to find decent instances with interesting stuff. And even when I did find channels with interesting stuff, the following thing was all or nothing. You either followed everything on the entire instance or nothing. I think maybe the last bit has changed but still it requires more effort thank I want to put into it. Ideally, I'd be able to follow/watch videos from any instance on my account, as long as I knew where a particular channel was located and the admin had not specifically banned that instance.
(DIR) Post #AF40Z96zx3k8mw36Dw by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-03T12:49:27.908813Z
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@otyugh That's okay, you pointed out an important issue, too.Maybe I'll look into adding some lower resolution options for my instance, just keeping the problem you described in mind. 🙂
(DIR) Post #AF40gqeqRnF5s2YMhk by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2022-01-03T12:50:51Z
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@sean Peertube as a video distribution platform is fine, now we need the equivalent of proper decentralized search/recommendation for such decentralized content. That's the whole benefit of centralized platforms and as long as we don't crack that problem there is virtually no adoption to be had.
(DIR) Post #AF40qprgFaJCJ6Jr9M by 404zzz@stereophonic.space
2022-01-03T12:52:40.266205Z
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@sean can you post the link to your videos? I was looking for some good stuff to watch.
(DIR) Post #AF40tHu4ySXjqYbuzY by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-03T12:53:04.913631Z
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@espen @christoffer Yeah, that's fair. I try to do a good job running @spectravideo, and only block the really nasty instances. If you're ever curious about having an account, it's not a problem for me to hook you up.It doesn't magically fix any complaints, mind you. 😛
(DIR) Post #AF412Crj4gFApOlLbE by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-03T12:54:43.126055Z
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@404zzz I mean, it's nothing amazing, but I've got a decent bit of stuff here: https://spectra.video/c/deadsuperhero/videos
(DIR) Post #AF41E59ZZdq0NslzbE by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-03T12:56:51.896002Z
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@boilingsteam Yeah, I actually feel like a simple, optional recommendation algorithm could actually be a good thing for discovery.Maybe that could start off as a plugin? :thaenkin:
(DIR) Post #AF41MT1OiUH0j6wo3E by tio@social.trom.tf
2022-01-03T12:48:47Z
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Yah almost no one will use peertube. Same story with the fediverse itself. Very very few compared to the big online giants. I think one cool idea would be to have an invidious plugin for peertube so it can showcase and display youtube videos in your peertube. This way will at least incentivize people to use peertube and maybe getting familiar with it may make some use it for their own personal videos. So in a way to merge youtube with peertube via invidious or something similar.
(DIR) Post #AF41MTWaqVE8HrXifw by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-03T12:58:18.826837Z
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@tio Kinda reminds me of the Twitter and Facebook bridges that Friendica used to have. Not a bad concept by any means, could actually make for a pretty cool plugin.
(DIR) Post #AF41nKh7mfxsigH8ka by otyugh@pouet.chapril.org
2022-01-03T13:03:12Z
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@sean Mwell, I might be very niche though. Have you stats on what's the usual choosen resolution ?I'm to the point where I usually don't even watch the videos, I just automatically extract audio, and convert it to mp3 for later listenning in car (I figured most channels could be used as podcasts). Most video are of people talking with some obligatory "dyanmic" effect theses days ^^...I think I'm pretty niche tho.
(DIR) Post #AF42EtyEjk6vweQRBw by 404zzz@stereophonic.space
2022-01-03T13:08:12.755893Z
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@sean huh that's some good stuff. Huh by the way nice game you were building!
(DIR) Post #AF42sZz0TAPpXPhmvQ by 404zzz@stereophonic.space
2022-01-03T13:15:23.496943Z
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@sean BTW I should join peertube I mean not necessarily to make videos and all, but to comment and interact there seems to be some untouched goodness there.
(DIR) Post #AF43pUdhyova3CprOK by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2022-01-03T13:26:02Z
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@sean better make it a separate fediverse infrastructure so that it would not be specific to a single platform
(DIR) Post #AF441jXaP40zk0oBiy by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2022-01-03T13:28:14Z
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@sean problem is... You cant have a recommendation system without individual user tracking (thats how you build recommendations !). I need to check again but the Mastodon API for example does not include much tracking by design so that would require a lot more capabilities to make it work.
(DIR) Post #AF44DDoYBeduooDn16 by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2022-01-03T13:30:19Z
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@sean the other intermediate option is to have rss like feeds sharing organized by topics across instances. Thats not as good as recommendation systems but taht would be a hell of a lot better than the nothingness on Peertube right now
(DIR) Post #AF44Dtl8EkrcuMweWG by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-03T13:30:26.524947Z
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@boilingsteam Yeah, I figured that maybe there might be an ethical way to do it, where the admin doesn't actually get any insight to said stats and the data doesn't go anywhere...but, you have a point.
(DIR) Post #AF44PdViTV67zNKcYy by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-03T13:32:34.330774Z
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@404zzz haha, thanks. I constantly pick up new ideas and put them back down after a while. On a happy note, I've gotten a lot of practice in this year with pixel art and programming.
(DIR) Post #AF44ahxQHWryxxZQzQ by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-03T13:34:34.208270Z
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@404zzz well, if you'd ever like an account, I run Spectra, and we keep a pretty chill environment. It's at least a good place for user accounts, if all you want to do is watch something.Let me know if you're ever interested, it's an open offer with no pressure intended.
(DIR) Post #AF44i1K6g7BB3UfRjs by 404zzz@stereophonic.space
2022-01-03T13:35:53.601283Z
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@sean ohw that's nice of you. But I just created an account on Diode and even subscribed to you. :02smile: Anyway thanks a lot!
(DIR) Post #AF44s3SRb5QiZTLt5c by ilja@ilja.space
2022-01-03T13:37:33.216225Z
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@sean > but it also feels like a lot of effort for very little payoffThis. I've had some ideas for video's, but in the end I just do something else because it feels like too much work. I know it's a matter of "just get starting", but there are other things I like to do as well, and then I end up choosing the other thing
(DIR) Post #AF44v48NXTUXXOP0HA by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-03T13:38:14.383170Z
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@404zzz Oh, right on! Diode's a great place and I like the DIY community and the admin over there.
(DIR) Post #AF454rkeQrm61rydhg by lnxw37a2@pleroma.soykaf.com
2022-01-03T13:40:01.254511Z
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@sean As an occasional viewer, I think PeerTube needs more content. Whenever I've looked, almost anything that might be interesting is in French, while the English language stuff is either excessively political or it is "Dr So and So proves that HIV doesn't exist, promotes his super health formula" garbage.> Maybe I'm just bad at this. No, I see this same sentiment from people hosting Pleroma, Mastodon, and GNUsocial. Sort of "I wanted to host a community of people who would interact with one another" and wound up with a tiny group of individuals who almost never communicate with each other. If you give them the place and the tools to make it happen, it is up to the users to actually do so. (Though attracting users is something that almost all of us could improve on.)
(DIR) Post #AF459J7WcKTK4RnI2K by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-03T13:40:49.322611Z
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@ilja Same. I don't even think that's necessarily a bad thing. I have a lot of interests that all kind of fight for my attention. Sometimes it's good to just follow your stream of consciousness and not worry too much about other plans.
(DIR) Post #AF45MKErloqjIuR31E by 404zzz@stereophonic.space
2022-01-03T13:43:10.384791Z
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@sean ohh I see nice!
(DIR) Post #AF47TgdF6xN2gsTVgW by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2022-01-03T14:06:54Z
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@sean you could do recommendations in an pseudo anonymized way, as in having one's viewing data without having access to their identity or profile and replacing their id with a random hash. Again, norhing like that is implemented on the fediverse afaik
(DIR) Post #AF49IQoxku56NPiZPM by mmu_man@m.g3l.org
2022-01-03T14:27:17Z
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@sean for finding videos I admit I still watch most on yt because of recommendations, while the peertube content I watch I pass by over here on Mastodon.As for searching for content, did you try https://sepiasearch.org/ yet? @Framasoft made it to address this fragmentation.
(DIR) Post #AF4AW0SIg8ICc79dfE by mmu_man@m.g3l.org
2022-01-03T14:40:57Z
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@sean @Framasoft yet, PeerTube doesn't pretend to replace all of youtube, just the video part, but there's the communication and monetization which aren't really addressed, probably also to allow for different solutions to this than just cloning a inherently broken model.
(DIR) Post #AF4DycGK0Uu3q9sxKS by hankg@social.isurf.ca
2022-01-03T14:01:55Z
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I haven't tried to use PeerTube as a primary platform for a couple of years. Back then, and sounds like still, content discovery was completely insufficient. That was even on-instance, and I was on a larger one. Finding stuff across federated instances was even worse. Still I posted some videos to a new instance (old one died) as well as YouTube last year: https://tube.tchncs.de/c/hanks_source_code_visualizations/videos?s=1
(DIR) Post #AF4Jn8zX5uEdb8wg2C by ARCONITE@letsalllovela.in
2022-01-03T14:59:09.529330Z
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@sean i'm sure it helps to have creators who post somewhat consistently. i have a ton of content ideas that i haven't been able to execute, mainly for personal-struggle reasons. gonya keep at it this year and see if i can do more than a video or two. want to get into freestyle a bit if i can. might start a punk band with some rapcore features and possibly do some shows at the vegan community center venue.big dreams, maybe i hit some of these.
(DIR) Post #AF4WOMLta6LvCSuwr2 by anjum@mstdn.io
2022-01-03T18:46:04Z
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@boilingsteam Yes! Finally, someone gets it. PeerTube doesn't need to be replaced as a whole just because it's missing discovery.
(DIR) Post #AF4YYp3ju4Wr2PXfWK by NoOneSpecial@bitcoinhackers.org
2022-01-03T19:10:21Z
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@boilingsteam @sean couldn't you just scrape people's likes?
(DIR) Post #AF4b2qWdDWUMBFV4mu by zleap@qoto.org
2022-01-03T19:38:11Z
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@sean I have made a good few videos but a lot are part of tutorials, so very short and form part of blog posts to complement written text and screenshots.I am happy to boost your content if it helps.
(DIR) Post #AF4blhJKK7GedJfDeK by zleap@qoto.org
2022-01-03T19:46:17Z
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@sean Nice interview on decentralisation and the fedi, I have made a blog post and linked to your peertube blog and mastodon.Will publish later
(DIR) Post #AF4bxbvSAeGvPHB5XM by msh@coales.co
2022-01-03T19:48:27Z
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@sean @espen @christoffer peertube seems to rely on a steady stream of newly posted content in order to create momentum. As an admin you can add instance-level follows which is helpful to get the streams populated if said servers are active enough, but searching old content prior to federating seems to be pretty weak.That is kind of a weakness with all of fedi, but it is much easier to toot on Mastodon or post a pic in Pixelfed than it is to prepare and upload a video to Peertube (or to any video platform in general) so that steady stream of new stuff drives engagement with the former.I am hesitant to advocate for anything algorithmically because it is fraught with unintended consequences but a federated human-driven search/recommendation engine would REALLY help the user experience in Peertube and fedi overall and I think ActivityPub could accommodate it.
(DIR) Post #AF4cqzHT2Si3lgsdyC by christoffer@snabelen.no
2022-01-03T19:58:27Z
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@msh @sean @espen I think one big missing thing with peertube is that isn't doing much influencing of how i should be used as wellThey just release it for the world to do whateverBut no matter what they do there will be a meta and stuff.They really should get like a page for content creators, businesses and non-profits so that they can influence things.
(DIR) Post #AF4dkqwfDWJi8HmwT2 by drwho@hackers.town
2022-01-03T20:07:10Z
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@sean Same. There pretty much is no useful search engine.
(DIR) Post #AF4dkrQnPUQ5djt0Qy by mmu_man@m.g3l.org
2022-01-03T20:08:34Z
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@drwho @sean even https://sepiasearch.org/ ?
(DIR) Post #AF4g207CZnRBP71QKu by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-03T20:34:04.745965Z
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@mmu_man @drwho Someone else brought up SepiaSearch earlier in the thread, so I'll bring up my point again: as an effort, I respect Sepia's attempt to solve a core problem with the platform. However, as a solution to the discovery problem, it's not very good.https://deadsuperhero.com/peertube-content-wasteland/​
(DIR) Post #AF4g8KogWR8hLUNgXI by mmu_man@m.g3l.org
2022-01-03T20:35:14Z
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@sean @drwho that was probably me already.
(DIR) Post #AF4gMPW5qNzNydOfGC by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-03T20:37:46.582720Z
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@mmu_man @drwho The main issue is that Sepia's searching is really just an aggregation of metadata, filtered by categories and keywords. On the surface, this sounds fine...but, when it comes to searching for videos that are actually created specifically for the PeerTube platform, this solution quickly falls apart.
(DIR) Post #AF4m8VoAFsU5A0baq0 by christoffer@snabelen.no
2022-01-03T21:40:50Z
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@msh @sean @espen And by that I mean something like https://developer.elementary.io/https://www.youtube.com/creators/https://www.facebook.com/creatorsit's too bad that the fediverse isn't like on this. Pixelfed is one of the projects that also would benefit from something like this, but peertube more so.Makes the onboarding much better, let's peertube make top creators use big features faster and it lets them set the meta.
(DIR) Post #AF4rhzldMJqhz2A1jc by rennerocha@chaos.social
2022-01-03T22:44:54Z
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@boilingsteam @sean this reminds me when we had "planets" of blogs of certain topics that were a merge of several RSS feeds from different blogs for a certain subject (like https://planetpython.org/). I liked that, but RSS is something that people are not using much anymore ...
(DIR) Post #AF4rmEVQVG9eqvbIUC by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-03T22:45:39.917892Z
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@rennerocha @boilingsteam Yeah, I was a huge fan of Planets for a long time. I used to read Planet Ubuntu, Planet Gnome, and Planet KDE every day to catch up on development news.
(DIR) Post #AF4shzmbOuf3zCB4vQ by ARCONITE@letsalllovela.in
2022-01-03T22:55:52.044461Z
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@sean @rennerocha @boilingsteam the curated content aggregation method is one of my long standing favorites. i've been a paying subscriber to hype machine for years and years and it still is worth it. all of this, powered by music blogs and rss.https://hypem.com/xj9
(DIR) Post #AF4sizNaO1UR1YwyXY by rennerocha@chaos.social
2022-01-03T22:48:00Z
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@sean @boilingsteam maybe something like that, but with a nice UI would be one solution to find content on PeerTube instances. I don't like following entire instances, because sometimes just a few users are really producers of content that my instance visitors would be interested.
(DIR) Post #AF4t1cFib0Tend9V8C by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-03T22:59:40.433338Z
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@rennerocha @boilingsteam Yeah, I hear you. If it helps, it's also possible to follow specific channels with your instance, so that a given channel's catalogue and new videos show up on your instance.
(DIR) Post #AF4tGtecBC5D755Fui by rennerocha@chaos.social
2022-01-03T23:02:15Z
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@sean @boilingsteam Yeah! It was introduced in version 3.4. My instance was stuck in 3.2.1 for a while 🙂 Today I upgraded to 4.0, so we have this option now!
(DIR) Post #AF5vMQrAYTKebSgQBU by herag@dobbs.town
2022-01-04T11:00:33Z
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@sean the one great weakness of peertube for me is the federation. Same with Mastodon actually. For some reason, when I search for a creator or video, it will give me a few results, sure, but once I looked for a creator I knew was somewhere on peertube and no matter what I search, he was nowhere to be found. When I found him, following him from my own instance was not an easy task...... if the devs of of peertube could fix this, it would be infinitely more useful.
(DIR) Post #AF61TC8UHfNAhSOKw4 by vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de
2022-01-04T12:07:38Z
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@christoffer @sean YouTube has got popular by exploiting kids, teens and young adults into thinking they can get "instant stardom" and ad revenue (although other than a few outliers it seems that even popular YouTubers don't make much more than working in a shop or food service) - this is probably not a road that an "alternative" video sharing service would want to go down (and it might not even be technically or logistically possible)
(DIR) Post #AF626WhtjcJZnHi2bo by bhtooefr@snack.social
2022-01-04T12:09:09.667805Z
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@sean I think a lot of the problem really is YouTube sucking air out of the room.Some creators I follow (…on YouTube) have lamented that their videos, that get tons of traction on YouTube, don’t get anywhere near the same traction on the alternative centralized video platforms - to say nothing of PeerTube. (Sometimes they’re covering content that YouTube doesn’t allow, so they’ll make an exclusive release for the alternative platforms only, and it still doesn’t get traction, so it’s not even a case of YouTube being more convenient, it’s just YouTube being the only stop for most viewers.)
(DIR) Post #AF626X8U8la97k9H3A by bhtooefr@snack.social
2022-01-04T12:14:04.405518Z
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@sean Worth noting that Fedi itself has shown that this isn’t an insurmountable problem - the text-based Fediverse manages to be quite active despite being much smaller than Twitter and Facebook, as an example.Video takes a lot more work to do well, though, and that naturally means that at least some people will want more reward for their work - whether that’s payment (from ad revenue, from sponsors, and/or from patrons) or just dopamine (from an upload doing numbers). So, if the viewers aren’t on PeerTube…
(DIR) Post #AF62xGTQovignM5f3A by bhtooefr@snack.social
2022-01-04T12:23:13.494945Z
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@sean Oh! Another difference between the text-based Fediverse and video that I just thought of:A video ends up being a standalone thing - it can have a comments section, but the content is the video.Microblogging, OTOH, borders on a chat medium - due to longer messages, it’s slower-paced than channelized chat mediums like IRC/Discord/Matrix or instant messenger/MMS group chats. So, the content on text-based Fedi is arguably conversations, not just a single standalone posting. I wonder if that difference is also a factor.(There may be an opening for using Fedi technology to implement a Vine/TikTok clone, given Vine’s critical existence failure and TikTok’s ownership, although if you’re trying to attract users to a service based on it Not Being Owned By China, you’ll only get people whose personality is that they’re opposed to China. Which basically means you’ll get anarchists and chuds (and whichever one you get the most of early on sets the whole platform’s direction).)
(DIR) Post #AF6ARSZZ6JCMgaIwHA by TerryHancock@mastodon.art
2022-01-04T13:16:27Z
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@seanI think one issue may be a microcosm of the fragmentation issue commercial streaming is going through. As a video producer, my inclination is to self-host up my own peertube, rather than submit to another. But there needs to be some aggregation and curation of "channels" to make this more appealing to viewers.As a user, YT's search is REALLY appealing: I just type in "blender python import STL" (say) and I get tutorials to solve my problem. I haven't been able to do that with PeerTube.
(DIR) Post #AF6ASqT9jtAh5by2E4 by TerryHancock@mastodon.art
2022-01-04T13:22:08Z
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@seanI actually host videos on Vimeo at present, BTW. And that has the same problem: much better technical interface, but nothing like the discoverability of YT. I can relate to the feeling of shouting into a void.I feel like PeerTube will allow an upgrade relative to my Vimeo experience, via federation. But I do think I'll have to have something on YT as well, even if they are just summaries or trailers for deeper content on PT.
(DIR) Post #AF6OQNajX9qeJ1EJpQ by Hyolobrika@mstdn.io
2022-01-04T16:26:12Z
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@lnxw37a2 @sean That's just the nature of federation though, isn't it? If people can talk to the entire network then there's nothing stopping them from ignoring their server-mates. Hypothesis: on a federated network, people will choose nodes based on their policies rather than their culture.
(DIR) Post #AFYChKUjaw6c2sfdKq by Nyla_Smokeyface@tech.lgbt
2022-01-18T02:16:03Z
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@sean May I ask why you're not interested in cross posting content to YouTube?
(DIR) Post #AFYChKw1xRwLPXRQsi by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-18T02:26:42.446665Z
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@Nyla_Smokeyface I actually don't have a problem with doing that. Some people want to get their stuff out to the greatest number of audiences, and I have no disrespect for people who take this approach. I even do that sometimes.It's just that I think something that could give PeerTube a lot of staying power is exclusive creators and videos, and that an active community of people making videos in this space would be a big step towards making the video part of the fediverse healthy and active.
(DIR) Post #AFYDTF9AmTAtMMQrho by Nyla_Smokeyface@tech.lgbt
2022-01-18T02:35:13Z
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@sean Yeah that's what I figured. That is really admirable!Maybe you or other creators could crosspost *some* content to YouTube and advertise that you post all videos to PeerTube? Or hell, even upload videos to PeerTube first and upload to YouTube a week later or something
(DIR) Post #AFZSAaunJfgjqBETEe by msh@coales.co
2022-01-18T16:54:48Z
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@sean @Nyla_Smokeyface I would use Youtube as a gateway to a peertube channel. Instead of outright cross-posting I would put only partial content on Youtube, tailored to appease the Gods of the Algorithm and Content Matching.I would then link to or mention the full-featured or re-cut stuff available on Peertube. That way you could find an audience and have a way to deliver content that is interesting, in-depth etc without being buried by the clickbait or suppressed/altered/removed due to copyright actions.(note I am not talking about willful/flagrant disregard of copyright and spreading of hateful or manipulative content here...I mean things like uncut recordings of live streams, in-depth coverage of a topic, archival footage or other fair-use examples of clips with music/imagery caught by false positives in content matching and so on)
(DIR) Post #AFZvPIT556VFdudHP6 by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2022-01-18T22:22:25.763401Z
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@msh @Nyla_Smokeyface Yeah, this is my mindset as well. I've been thinking about maybe doing delayed releases to YouTube, featuring only a handful of bigger videos that I want to get out into the open, with the emphasis that "if you want to see more, come to PeerTube."