Post AErpaSW7rGdNryhs0W by Kluehouse@kiwifarms.cc
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(DIR) Post #AErjXaq1rgZ75DGaES by RustyCrab@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T14:42:10.897545Z
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Translation software is the first application I can think of that are under lock and key in a server room for entirely unnecessary reasons. I thoroughly believe that Terry Davis was right and compilers will some day be illegal to have without a license. There will be right wing terrorist organizations who exist for the sole purpose of infiltrating companies and leaking code just so they can not be moderated by tyrannical trannies for once.
(DIR) Post #AErk0Xp29pKK7vbdOC by Kluehouse@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T14:45:52.959236Z
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@RustyCrab Its possible although I wonder how much making code licensed actually works to stop people. Part of the reason people use twitch and twitter and youtube and etc etc is the majority of dissident right can still use it but if that becomes impossible it drives people to create places that can.
(DIR) Post #AErk0YPBzOFZw4WVkW by RustyCrab@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T14:47:23.416219Z
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@Kluehouse who on the dissident right can use twitch? That's not be being a smartass. I can't think of a single account.
(DIR) Post #AErkFLN6jKRpr9bIJM by PunishedD@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T14:50:03.632353Z
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@RustyCrab @Kluehouse YouTube is being used solely for the free bandwidth and the recommendation algorithm at this point. No other site has solved or subsidized the bandwidth issue to the same extent.
(DIR) Post #AErkN6Cn0Czp8RTLVY by deprecated_ii@poa.st
2021-12-28T14:51:29.473479Z
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@RustyCrab hardware is the real problemthey can't stop me making software, they can however require that all software that runs on a CPU be "trusted"
(DIR) Post #AErkYj0f4KhUfcLLCi by RustyCrab@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T14:53:33.963054Z
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@PunishedD @Kluehouse peertube and Dlive both solved it with P2P assisted servers. It works wonderfully. The problem now is that youtube is actually the MOST permissive site of any of the tech giants, as hard as that is to believe. One day they'll become as iron fisted as the rest, but until then, there's no opening.
(DIR) Post #AErkaTWHdCAPCxy7UG by Kluehouse@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T14:51:48.577793Z
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@RustyCrab Its generally only very small accounts and they do have to be careful. And I guess it depends on who you count as being on the dissident right. My definition might be different than yours. The one that springs to mind is the Goodolboyz podcast don't know if you'd consider them dissident right though.
(DIR) Post #AErkfrza4Q3iYYFEWW by RustyCrab@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T14:54:51.368015Z
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@Kluehouse I've never heard of them so I can't comment. My definition is generally anything even slightly right of republicans, who are centrist at this point.
(DIR) Post #AErl1vgl0XqMOJxW6q by deprecated_ii@poa.st
2021-12-28T14:58:52.233968Z
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@RustyCrab ultimately people who want to communicate freely are going to have to learn to get by without wasting the massive amount of computing power, storage, and bandwidth we do now
(DIR) Post #AErmaFp4kuxIdVmUCG by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2021-12-28T15:16:14.445266Z
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@deprecated_ii @RustyCrab i don't think that'll really take off outside the mobile device/chromebook space. and even for consumer use, folks lose a lot of love for them when faced with the choice of buying a real PC or driving into the office every day cause their VPN application don't run on a chromebook.it won't really work in the business market either. there's a lot of very expensive software that's been bought and paid for or developed in house or by a contractor years ago that nobody's gonna pay for again just so they can use fancy pants trusted-only computers. millions of dollars and months of migration to replace a big ERP system is not the same as telling grandma to buy a $9.99 app that'll run on her shitty chromebook.
(DIR) Post #AErmutRFAwRhIGTWl6 by RustyCrab@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T15:20:00.531360Z
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@skylar @deprecated_ii S T A D I A
(DIR) Post #AErnJZ1yBhKPEwPwmW by RustyCrab@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T15:24:28.086985Z
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@skylar @deprecated_ii really, stadia's failure was in not understanding their target audience at all. "Gamers" who can't run games aren't that way because they can't get a powerful PC or a console. They just don't care about playing AAA titles and other stuff that requires time investment. They literally just want to hop on for 5 minutes and play Candy Crush.
(DIR) Post #AErnXE7aj066ReYtdY by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2021-12-28T15:26:55.421719Z
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@RustyCrab @deprecated_ii well that and the pesky speed of light in fiber getting in the way
(DIR) Post #AErnmd8K0v7sMTFSrY by sapphire@goyim.app
2021-12-28T15:29:42.534158Z
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@skylar @RustyCrab @deprecated_ii plus services had been doing the same thing for a decade and all of them failed massively
(DIR) Post #AErnvlol5vNXtzSLaa by RustyCrab@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T15:31:22.398152Z
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@skylar @deprecated_ii Apparently it worked fine for people living in the big cities, which was the only audience they cared about. Now, by "fine" i mean the only people who could tell a difference are the ones who already had a real computer.
(DIR) Post #AErouQOZMC9N7t82QS by PunishedD@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T15:42:20.084804Z
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@RustyCrab @Kluehouse I don't view P2P as a full solution, only a decent one. YouTube's responsiveness and availability still outclasses the other alt platforms.Wasn't there a DLive stream about a month ago, where the site operators asked people not to log in and watch the video, because they were getting overwhelmed?
(DIR) Post #AErpBAlUitFXZZq0Gm by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2021-12-28T15:45:21.395602Z
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@RustyCrab @deprecated_ii that's the mistake they always make with their fancy-pants cloud shitworks great in some soyfaggot's $8000/mo studio apartment in SF that offers amenities like gigabit fiber and a complimentary bum dying of a heroin overdose while shitting in the vestibulebut it sucks shit over DSL or fixed wireless or mobile data cause everyone was too dumb and lazy to consider bandwidth and latency and write their software to gracefully handle intermittent connectivity problems.
(DIR) Post #AErpQtqVObaNjSgGwa by RustyCrab@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T15:48:12.162891Z
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@PunishedD @Kluehouse I don't keep up with DLive anymore since they trooned out, but their solution worked better than anything else on record for the hardware they had. The only way to look at it is through resource efficiency. It's not fair to compare anything else to youtube in terms of raw power. The remaining problem is a market one. That's where the banks and payment processors serve as the real stopping power for big tech.
(DIR) Post #AErpaSW7rGdNryhs0W by Kluehouse@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T15:49:12.318925Z
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@PunishedD @RustyCrab Well I have no idea what'd be perfect but P2P seems really interesting. Stuff like Urbit is cool and interesting for this reason. Especially since it seems like P2P stuff is more in line with what the internet was supposed to be. Urbit has a high barrier to entry though. Also seeing its incredibly unlikely that there is a political solution P2P seems to hold a lot of promise
(DIR) Post #AErpf85vDTzDygg2QS by RustyCrab@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T15:50:46.499125Z
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@Kluehouse @PunishedD They've been trying to shut down bittorrent since the 90s with very little success, so yeah it's not some new radical idea. P2P has stood the test of time.
(DIR) Post #AErqFJadxCJQ3VIkDY by Kluehouse@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T15:56:19.147746Z
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@RustyCrab @PunishedD Only Problem is P2P is not exactly easy to setup and Run or at least it seems that way.
(DIR) Post #AErqKsbHDKoO5NFcbQ by RustyCrab@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T15:58:19.216284Z
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@Kluehouse @PunishedD It's not easy to program for, that's for sure. The problem with P2P is that the uptime is piss poor and unreliable. It's hard enough to program edge cases for a server with %99.9999 reliability.
(DIR) Post #AErrlULHc2SOck1QQq by Kluehouse@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T16:07:14.522295Z
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@RustyCrab @PunishedD Yeah that's my impression. Which is why Urbit is really interesting but it has a high barrier to entry and I'm not setup to use it as actual programming for this stuff is not something I've ever done. I'm really only been thinking about this stuff because it seems like there is going to be an attempt to regulate Social Media platforms soon to try and disrupt right wing stuff. Whenever a bunch of Articles on a topic appears in "credible" new sources its a safe bet something is going to happen soon.
(DIR) Post #AErscNYnYgamwCZ1Em by RustyCrab@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T16:23:53.508913Z
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@Kluehouse @PunishedD I know next to nothing about urbit, but everything has a high entry bar when it first comes out
(DIR) Post #AErtWCOWG9psWZNBDs by Kluehouse@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T16:29:56.427958Z
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@RustyCrab @PunishedD Fair enough. My adoption of new stuff depends on a need. Most of the stuff I look at is small enough that it doesn't get smashed.
(DIR) Post #AEruKwlK8hNKoKEoXg by RustyCrab@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T16:43:09.063208Z
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@Kluehouse @PunishedD I'm for anything that can offer a reasonable solution. Randomly, I wonder if video streamers could do something like fediverse where they could run their own streaming servers, but the servers could allow other servers to use each others bandwidth if they had some to spare.So let's say poast TV has a 10 GB line but it rarely reaches 1 GB/s of usage. Another less powerful server could use the remaining bandwidth as a load balancer if needed.
(DIR) Post #AEry1z8LUxBMToDhse by PunishedD@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T17:24:32.662391Z
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@RustyCrab @Kluehouse It's a good idea, if you can figure out how to do decentralized load balancing. Also assuming the line lease allows it.It doesn't fully solve the reliability issue, when graph does a movie night that 10 gig line will start to get fully used up. Kind of like what happens with kiwi farms' bandwidth when @josh streams. Fundamentally this creates a hierarchy with one payer and several freeloaders. That's always been the risk with P2P though; It relies on a relatively smaller number of seeders (bandwidth or now money) to support leechers.This isn't really an objection to your idea, just a starting point for exploring where the weaknesses might show up. I'm really interested to know if there is anything like a defederated load balancer right now, I don't think torrents really implement that model.
(DIR) Post #AEs76qbLY0ZD3LB7VA by Kluehouse@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T17:51:12.706464Z
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@PunishedD @RustyCrab @josh I'd assume you'd force the people watching to contribute a small amount in order to receive especially since unlike with torrents you aren't doing something technically illegal. Then again I'm not really sure how this works or if that even makes sense since this isn't what I do. One question I do have however is if any of the open source stuff has compression built into it and to what degree. In linear Algebra there is something called Principal Component of a Matrix that basically lets you chop a matrix into tiny pieces and long story short it lets you send an image that is good enough while using a lot less bandwidth. This helps keep things cheaper. A lot of companies like Netflix and Google also have proprietary software developed along these lines that makes it even better. For example do torrents apply even a basic level of compression using Principal components for certain things? I can't answer this question because I have very little knowledge of how current software functions. It could be one of the major hurdles that P2P things face for images and video is access to proprietary Linear Algebra software. Just using barebones principal components cuts things down to an 8th or a 4th from raw stuff. And the propriety stuff is even better. That could be a game changer. I only have guesses though because I haven't done any work with transferring data via the internet.
(DIR) Post #AEs76r6Xg1WKc5m27s by RustyCrab@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T19:06:16.024035Z
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@Kluehouse @PunishedD @josh given the file sizes of torrents and the fact that they compress well after you download them, I want to say no, but I can't say for certain. Video compression wouldn't really be in the same problem space as peering I don't think. That would pretty much just be on the streamer and client side.
(DIR) Post #AEs7DUjPG3ojFe7NGS by RustyCrab@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-28T19:07:28.171078Z
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@Kluehouse @PunishedD @josh but also one reason torrents are popular is you don't really have to worry about file size. It would be NICE IF THEY DID but the system itself is efficient enough that it doesn't matter