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(DIR) Post #AEUojN1jgbDRus1D0q by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T13:21:57.794999Z
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Sorry guys, but you cannot escape national socialism. That pendulum go swinging.
(DIR) Post #AEUp1CDebkJxbp5pVA by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T13:25:11.626159Z
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We simply never learn our lesson. If we did, we would realise that Left politics doesn't work.
(DIR) Post #AEUp3wdkzEDCA0c4n2 by Lumeinshin@pleroma.skyshanty.xyz
2021-12-17T13:25:41.098745Z
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@sim but what you can do is point it toward being a bit less shitty than it can bewe can keep the black turtlenecks, theyre cool
(DIR) Post #AEUpEbbTXc8q6Ld5VI by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T13:27:36.495378Z
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@Lumeinshin Do I want to know why when it comes to those black turtlenecks?
(DIR) Post #AEUpVJG10MY47nYZt2 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T13:30:35Z
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@sim And gambling, overeating, alcoholism, drug addiction, etc. are similar pitfalls.
(DIR) Post #AEUpg367QUMFBy34vQ by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T13:32:34Z
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@sim We need something better however.Hitler won the argument about diversity and eugenics, no doubt.The USA cruised on "we beat the Nazis!" for eighty years and now people are tired of hearing it.
(DIR) Post #AEUpj4RsrLscFcfbJQ by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T13:33:07.482214Z
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@amerika Yeah, those are the common bad habits. We know those are bad habits, but still fall for them. Now there are people that rely on that for their livelihood.
(DIR) Post #AEUpkG0pLsCsP8a2Pg by Lumeinshin@pleroma.skyshanty.xyz
2021-12-17T13:33:19.809669Z
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@sim because turtlenecks are cozyand the blackshirts is a cool aestheticalthough mosley wasnt for natsoc reeeally, more a unique english fascism(i still need to read more on mosely tbh)video added to show marches but also look at those old english buildings and the clothes
(DIR) Post #AEUqAdjLn6JFUgzBJ2 by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T13:38:06.436817Z
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@amerika Hitler got to power because the allies that won against Germany in the first war decided to exact heavy fines on the German people. Rome did the same and paid the price for that. It's probably time for the global elites to be knocked down a peg so that they stop interfering in the affairs of other countries and stop making our countries sick.
(DIR) Post #AEUqg2RFybi36OUium by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T13:43:46.941839Z
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@Lumeinshin Okay, I admit they do at least dress smartly. Same... I don't know much about this guy, if anything.
(DIR) Post #AEUqhEnpUbjdjpcnNA by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T13:43:57Z
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@sim This is why localizing costs is so important.Free healthcare? You wreck yourself, you die, and we bury you. It's up to you to stay healthy.Free drug treatment? No way. It's your job to stay off drugs.Social security? Nope, you have to save your own money, and if you gamble it away, die penniless in a ditch.Seems brutal but it's the only way to discourage these pitfalls.
(DIR) Post #AEUqjFdtLF3gvCw7jk by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T13:44:20Z
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@sim I agree, but I think the "elites" are a front.It's the voters.
(DIR) Post #AEUr5Pru0Cfl0Y3iKm by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-17T13:48:22.090290Z
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@amerika @sim The new global democracy order has voted and 70% of the votes are for 'fuck whitey and take his shit' (only because i give the third worlders the benefit of the doubt when i assume that not every single brown person would vote for that)
(DIR) Post #AEUr5RvWLiktOLldFg by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T13:48:22.421351Z
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@amerika This might seem like a crazy proposal but I'm just testing it out... what about the people selling this stuff have to contribute towards treatment when people become addicted to it? What will happen?
(DIR) Post #AEUrCKHDBtEBgzByCm by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T13:49:35Z
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@dew_the_dew @sim I think that's about the right ratio. A quarter of them have no interest, the rest are just human detritus like we see in all societies and vote for free stuff on impulse.
(DIR) Post #AEUrFMat20fjkRqKyO by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T13:50:08Z
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@sim At this point, I'm against all treatment programs.People need to fix themselves or die out.Only that kind of responsibility encourages people to stay away from it in the first place.
(DIR) Post #AEUrIWlHgVRu9SDPOK by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T13:50:44.197383Z
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@amerika How come?
(DIR) Post #AEUrQWT0fFXtYPTolk by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T13:52:08Z
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@sim We're in democracies.Whoever gets the mosts votes wins.Psychotic people like Merkel, Obama, Biden, Blair, etc., always get elected.The voters like to blame the elites as a way of shunning their own responsibility.Same way if the vote favors something insane, everyone goes, "oh well, that's how the cookie crumbles I guess" and memory holes it.
(DIR) Post #AEUs0YcU8aWqej5vhA by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-17T13:58:41.735935Z
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@amerika @sim memory hole it or come up with post hoc rationalizations for why 'it was the right thing to do' as cope.
(DIR) Post #AEUs7RCi6icxgRJsIq by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T13:59:55.383195Z
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@amerika I'm not completely against treatment programs, but then I like the idea of a second chance for people that are sincere. There are also children that get into this stuff at too early an age to be making decisions like that. But I'm also sympathetic to the idea of letting people face the consequences of their actions. We shouldn't be subsidising everything and definitely not for life.I'm just thinking about the ingredients that kept me away. I think we need to stop normalising bad habits, that makes it easier to quit it.
(DIR) Post #AEUshEQx43VgVC354i by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T14:06:24.660928Z
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@amerika I suppose this also depends on whether you think we are living in a democracy. Whether those votes even count. I suspect that the system works in a way that the people you mentioned aren't really calling the shots. They are puppets. Vote them out and you just get another puppet on the throne. Politicians have to play the political game. So yeah. Gotta change the system first.
(DIR) Post #AEUsoD26fduwBWkqxs by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T14:07:36Z
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@sim I agree, which is why I'm against legalization but in favor of decriminalization.However, I think we should keep consistent: if you make this choice, you are on your own.Treatment programs attract grifters and work for no one who wasn't going to be able to quit on their own.It might make sense to allow over-the-counter apomorphine cures or something of that nature.
(DIR) Post #AEUt9RfHStCHe7CijQ by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T14:11:28Z
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@dew_the_dew @sim There's a lot of that justification behavior going on these days.
(DIR) Post #AEUtBKxlLyV5RJkdHc by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T14:11:51.088252Z
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@amerika That makes sense. Besides, I think the best treatment program is being in the community. Gives you values and culture, gives you direction, gives you a goal to work towards and something to focus on outside of yourself. It also gives you other relationships with those around you, that helps with bouncing back.
(DIR) Post #AEUtEE3HVMH0sGi4Ei by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T14:12:20Z
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@sim A good point. Treatment programs direct you to think more about being addicted, when what you really need is a broom and a few hours a day of doing something useful.
(DIR) Post #AEUtJRYIjq0WC0htvk by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T14:13:17Z
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@sim I think the votes count, but when the voters choose criminals, you end up with a Tammany Hall type situation.
(DIR) Post #AEUtNWQaYLAMTM2oXA by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-17T14:14:03.073999Z
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@sim @amerika I actually heard a segment on NPR about heroin/opiate users and how it's not like the drug makes them feel 'good' but more like a complete lack of social anxiety and a general feeling of love which makes sense given what we know about pair bonding and oxytocin. It's filling a void in their heart or brain chemistry, or as a salve for alienation depending on how you look at it. People in a healthy culture that engenders them with a sense of belonging do not need this.
(DIR) Post #AEUteb4CYhUvmaiOAK by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T14:17:08.385427Z
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@amerika Yeah. People turn to addiction as self-medicating. Give them something else and some support in the local community, there is less of a need to turn to addictions. Also, lots of people just want to feel useful and appreciated, give them that chance instead.
(DIR) Post #AEUtjvSk9fD2UGjeEa by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T14:18:06.137026Z
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@amerika I've wondered why criminals are chosen so often.
(DIR) Post #AEUtyWRHTSm5Do0l6G by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T14:20:44.420155Z
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@dew_the_dew @amerika Yes. The treatment program should be a healthy culture providing a sense of belonging in the local community.
(DIR) Post #AEUu7omSeLxwiILo5A by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-17T14:22:25.088109Z
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@sim @amerika Instead it's a bunch of total fuckups who have to be there to get favorable court treatment, and then you get the fuckups who stick with it just to talk to other fuckups about how fucked up they are and then you have the people who aren't really that fucked up and get tired of talking to all the fuckups all the time and leave the program because they didn't really need it.
(DIR) Post #AEUuVV8tJeASky8Rqy by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T14:26:42.040444Z
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@dew_the_dew @amerika There is something wrong when that is essentially what it becomes. In the end, I decided against joining a group for my own fuckups because I knew it wouldn't support me. Not always a good thing to dwell on with others, can enable each other. I'm doing better now.
(DIR) Post #AEUuhKDVlKOoLYvzJw by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-17T14:28:50.071661Z
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@sim @amerika I guess it's still better as a social outlet than a bar or a traphouse. Kind of like /mlp/ has its own containment board?
(DIR) Post #AEUv1xsW0o9r96xIIq by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T14:32:34.019125Z
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@dew_the_dew @amerika Yeah, it can be. I mean, it can also be a good outlet to learn about the fuckup itself and you need some kind of diagnosing for some things. Internet can help with these things too. It might help you on the off chance with finding somebody who genuinely wants to change so you can support each other. Not something to stay in though.
(DIR) Post #AEUv3oUjs2TCcfiQi0 by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T14:32:52.249680Z
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@amerika @sim So if they fall down on the streets we leave them fallen down on the streets and just carry walking on byNow is that humanity?
(DIR) Post #AEUvHc4mq6KaA49n6G by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T14:35:21Z
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@dew_the_dew @sim A solid observation. It's about what we'd expect if we treat opiates as what they are: anaesthetics.They have anxieties, and drugs relieve those.Where does the anxiety come from? I say civilization decay.Some people are just going to use drugs regardless, and can't be saved no matter what we do. Natural selection!
(DIR) Post #AEUvORyOnh9er2Qg0e by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T14:36:37.678544Z
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@EmmaFaber @amerika I don't see what is wrong with individuals choosing to volunteer to help them get back up. It just wouldn't be at the state level in this example. Personally I like the idea of bringing back local community for this support.
(DIR) Post #AEUvPIapA4my3Go67c by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T14:36:39Z
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@EmmaFaber @sim Yes, and in fact a better world than the other way.Compassion blinds us to the need for people to take responsibility for their own happiness.When we bail people out of crises of their own making, that subsidizes them and encourages them to make more bad decisions.There's a place for charity, but it involves actual external misfortune and not self-victimization.
(DIR) Post #AEUvSuN59utS5W6Hnk by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T14:37:25Z
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@EmmaFaber @sim I could end the drug problem in the West overnight: go after the users.If there were serious penalties for using drugs, people would stop experimenting.The hardcore element will continue anyway.We have a drug problem because keeping drugs illegal has made them valuable, and there's no actual risk to users.
(DIR) Post #AEUvVpT1qgCHkNH5hQ by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T14:37:57Z
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@sim Same reason that most people on the internet are popular: they present nice simple, easy answers that are interesting.Criminals know how to manipulate.
(DIR) Post #AEUvbVy3GEAH0WUpvM by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T14:38:55Z
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@dew_the_dew @sim Once Leftists got some power, they started trying to make the courts into "rehabilitation" instead of their primary purpose, which is to find bad people and separate them from the population.A century of murder, rape, theft, and graft later, we're realizing that our ancestors had it right: crime is not a mistake, it's how you show that you are a risk to normal people and need to be isolated.
(DIR) Post #AEUvgCBCG8zb5GsQfw by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T14:39:50Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber If someone falls over in front of me because he shot up heroin, I'm going to say "Darwin laughs" and move on.If someone falls over because he got hit by lightning, of course I'm going to try to help.Compassion is an abyss. It just subsidizes dysfunction.
(DIR) Post #AEUvkc7Rl6nagzEIs4 by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-17T14:40:38.062440Z
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@amerika @sim Also the penitentiary system isn't very effective outside of Quaker or Quaker-adjacent cultures.
(DIR) Post #AEUvlyER1uIfYz94QS by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T14:40:52Z
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@EmmaFaber @sim Consider also this compassion:A child born poor, abused by both parents, lives in filth and disaster.He makes a "mistake" and sexually assaults a woman.Under compassion, we see this as a temporary thing... and decide to "rehabilitate" his ass.Then he gets out and does it again.Save the good... let the bad die.
(DIR) Post #AEUvrN0AMawBpk2uC8 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T14:41:50Z
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@dew_the_dew @sim I'm at the point where I think we need to analyze each person busted for anything and give them a life sentence if we are not in error.You start down that path, you're lost to us.This sends a strong signal: don't screw this up.It also ensures that the relatively small group that does most of the crime is kept away from healthy people.
(DIR) Post #AEUvrfadFknnU3FHX6 by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T14:41:54.727253Z
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@amerika It still seems like most voters don't vote for them to take the role they have prior to the ballot box. Just left with a select few people.
(DIR) Post #AEUvyhs5AXpAaQlNGS by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-17T14:43:10.836853Z
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@amerika @sim If you're going to do that you're going to need some sort of forced prison labor so you're not just paying for their food and housing.
(DIR) Post #AEUwAE0c1StTReFGgi by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T14:45:15.937838Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber Seems fair to me. Especially when someone is a complete stranger. Only so much you can do.
(DIR) Post #AEUwRPKz9kzjVEy4no by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T14:48:20Z
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@dew_the_dew @sim The real costs of prison dwarf anything their labor will provide.I favor making prison suck the way the Norwegians, Danes, and Swedes do, but with a twist.Make it safe but utterly boring.
(DIR) Post #AEUwUK9CuQ7WH7qj4a by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T14:48:52Z
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@sim Voters believe promises at face value. They "trust." This is a mistake!
(DIR) Post #AEUwgqYuDblKHXqCrg by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-17T14:51:09.504066Z
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@amerika @sim Exercise bikes that generate electricity that runs crypto miners, or maybe a prison TV show and the prison makes money off eyeballs. That would be interesting.
(DIR) Post #AEUwvfJmJ0iPkkpbNI by surya@poa.st
2021-12-17T14:53:50.215494Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @sim sounds a bit like China’s social credit system…incoming new world order
(DIR) Post #AEUx1bgWj5ZUDsIxvM by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-17T14:54:54.643897Z
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@surya @amerika @sim There are a lot of things that China is doing right that we are completely whiffing on.
(DIR) Post #AEUx86OjRtnDDO4wdc by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T14:56:04.487427Z
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@amerika @sim let us remind ourselves of exactly what you said and how now you are trying to shift your goal posts"At this point, I'm against all treatment programs.People need to fix themselves or die out.Only that kind of responsibility encourages people to stay away from it in the first place"
(DIR) Post #AEUxA8wmwRtxhUyvDM by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T14:56:25Z
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@surya @dew_the_dew @sim You've got that backward: the NWO is here, and makes its money off of "compassion" for the hopeless.Fear of attacking that because it will be seen as bullying the hopeless is what keeps it in power.
(DIR) Post #AEUxCMVFVps0K39sRs by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T14:56:48Z
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@dew_the_dew @surya @sim China accepts the reality of power; the democracies are running from it because all of our power systems are corrupt.
(DIR) Post #AEUxFjJn8ttBx2PB6e by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T14:57:25Z
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@EmmaFaber @sim The statements are consistent.I'm against treatment programs.
(DIR) Post #AEUxcoJEkgik5i9RPk by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T14:59:37.963594Z
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@sim @amerika @EmmaFaber Yeah, guess I'll be moving into a local community full of nice rich people, pretty fucking sharpish. And then building a big fucking wall to keep any not-rich motherfuckers from moving in and dragging down our local community resource base. And then staying put right there forever. Coz of course no-one in America ever had to move anywhere for a job or study or family or anything 🙄
(DIR) Post #AEUxcon0xyXXa45DpQ by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T15:01:36Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber Non sequitur. This isn't about money.
(DIR) Post #AEUxhvaZ79wC7FhFw0 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T15:02:30Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber Also, if you're moving from California, Mexico, or New York... please don't move here.
(DIR) Post #AEUy3oYhvrl0gSGQwC by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T15:06:31.019078Z
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@amerika @Quellist1 @EmmaFaber Yes, I'm confused on the point being made and how it relates to this. I assume wealthy people are already in their own communities away from me anyway.
(DIR) Post #AEUyrmFKnv2PzV1hqq by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T15:15:30Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 I got over my resentment of wealth very quickly in early life.It's good that there are wealthy people.As long as we're making the competent wealthy, we all benefit.Are we doing that? Lots of people are getting rich from government now.We're seeing the loop here:* "Be compassionate" -> now you have rapists wandering the streets* "Redistribute wealth" -> now you have terrible people getting richThis is why Leftism is a dead end.
(DIR) Post #AEUzDTONaGRrt2bQBM by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T15:19:28.047139Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Getting rich off the government is a problem. Funny how the government will waste millions on contracts and won't have much to show for it.
(DIR) Post #AEUzL5OMhStJlgE4gq by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T15:20:46Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Not to mention all the regulatory creations. We spend a ton of money and it doesn't work out well.
(DIR) Post #AEUzM8F3ad4EtdN3ho by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T15:19:01.953164Z
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@amerika @sim Free healthcare? Look, you get MS or your kid gets leukaemia? Fuck you, should have paid attention and chosen better ancestors.Free drug treatment? You signed up to serve your country in the military, got fucked up in combat and needed drugs to relieve chronic pain, ended up with an opioid habit that a major corporation connived to feed? Fuck you, dumbass - make better choices!Social security? Your lost your job when the big local manufacturer got closed down by competition from abroad, the whole damn town imploded and there was no decent waged work within a fifty mile radius? Six months later, hitching a ride in a flat-bed truck to some desperate day labour out of town, you were in an accident and shattered your leg? Because you lost your medical cover with your job, the hospital bills bankrupted you? Fuck you! Be luckier! Go die penniless in a ditch.Seems brutal, but it's the only way to ensure that all those millionaires and corporations don't have to pay taxes on the money they make from ordinary citizens' custom and labour. Hey, the super-rich have feelings too, asshole. Get back in that fucking ditch!Libertarianism - You know it make sense 🤪
(DIR) Post #AEUzPNhMZy8lhdA0ES by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T15:21:33Z
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@Quellist1 @sim Libertarianism would mean no wealth transfer programs whatsoever. This means lower costs and higher quality, so people could actually afford medical care and their own retirement programs."Someone might suffer" is the warning of the charlatan. Don't fall for it.
(DIR) Post #AEUzTK9ThtbtrUBtvk by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T15:22:19.956696Z
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@Quellist1 @amerika Uh... anyone a libertarian here?
(DIR) Post #AEUzaSA8K2lMjVtfJg by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T15:23:36.256776Z
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@amerika @sim No it isn't.. you would leave anyone on the streets to die and you would be judge jury and executioner as you walked by "this one I will help, this one I won't?"and is why socially most of us don't work on that principleAmericans like to see other Americans suffer& they all dread getting ill becos of the cost of medical billsso it causes PTSD among the entire population& is why America is mentally ill as a societyUnnecessary stress that is easily solvable by having a national heath care system
(DIR) Post #AEUzdLtM5oIM9bQo9g by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T15:24:08.686665Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 I wish I knew a better way that does work out for this.
(DIR) Post #AEV0YWYL7yrTizra4G by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T15:34:28.619956Z
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@EmmaFaber @amerika National health care system means that you outsource supporting someone to the health care system. You are still choosing who you walk by, who you will personally help. But then again, that's just nature because it is impossible to help everyone who falls and needs support yourself. Better for small local communities to support each other, then the health system is for operations that need to be done. The things you can't do in a community setting.
(DIR) Post #AEV0pKieNWFNwihWnw by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T15:37:30.281702Z
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@sim @amerika No it does not work like that health care is free at the point of entry you go through the doors and someone will be there to help you
(DIR) Post #AEV1GrUUdsBzP8CpEG by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T15:42:28.315247Z
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@EmmaFaber @amerika Someone will be there, yes. Whether they will be helpful is another matter entirely. I know because I have to deal with this. Have you tried to get support for mental health issues on the national health service?
(DIR) Post #AEV2BXlgdvu2k3HAtU by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-17T15:52:44.021890Z
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@EmmaFaber @amerika Also, I have noticed that having the state take over things allows people to outsource to the state and be more likely to do that than taking responsibility. Much more likely to walk by someone, thinking the state will be there to support them instead. Or handing them off to them. Sometimes this is a good thing and you may want this, like in an emergency where an operation is required. Other times, maybe having the local community there or having someone personally stop is better than having someone go through the hoops set up by the state to get support.
(DIR) Post #AEV2DcrUfyCJ7Pz8M4 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T15:53:05Z
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@EmmaFaber @sim You're not judge, jury, and executioner if you simply refuse to get involved.Their destiny remains intact.If you subsidize everyone, you get a lot of defectives, and that's why America is mentally ill as a society.Why are medical bills so high? Because you made care "free" starting with Medicare and EMTALA, thus made it an insurance-based industry.https://www.healthline.com/health-news/policy-ten-administrators-for-every-one-us-doctor-092813
(DIR) Post #AEV2MCUs4MCrxJUZxA by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T15:54:01Z
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@EmmaFaber @simYou know what "free" stuff does, primarily?Hire a lot of bureaucrats and lawyers.My way offers you more money and less pain.Your way increases the pain, and is the cause of our healthcare crisis in America now.There wasn't one, before we started regulating.Then in came the free stuff, and now it's a crisis.Free stuff ain't free. In fact, it's expensive and creates corruption, therefore is immoral and stupid.
(DIR) Post #AEV2NAWisbL48QouAa by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T15:54:47Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 The better way is to use markets and culture.Get government, unions, and other parasites out of the picture, and costs go down and quality goes up.Most people can't admit that unions drove labor offshore.They want to blame "politicians."It's comical how stupid they are.
(DIR) Post #AEV2QCk16Rg9s6UAzY by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T15:55:20Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber In fact, it's lazier: "I don't want to spend my time helping my neighbors, let government do it paid for by someone else's taxes i.e. time."
(DIR) Post #AEV2SfQpP4EvQtgVpA by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T15:55:48Z
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@EmmaFaber @sim That's a fantasy."Free" doesn't exist.Someone pays for it.The costs just come to you in other ways.Ambulance rides only cost $10k when insurance is involved.
(DIR) Post #AEV2WUDD3lARnI8U08 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T15:56:29Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber Socialized medicine does really well with very basic care where there's no doubt about the diagnosis: broken arm, birth control, etc.It performs horribly for anything else, which is why this city is full of refugees from European and Canadian healthcare systems.
(DIR) Post #AEV2ZSUFvi8HJRWh7I by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T15:57:00Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber The state replaces culture and caring.Even more, you make anyone with wealth into a self-interested person at that point because you're trying to take everything they own.
(DIR) Post #AEV3St9sT52LxXQS1o by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T16:07:03.236199Z
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@amerika @sim of course you are the judge and juror and executioner if you decide who you you will help and who you will leave on the street to die and you said you yourself you are willing to make that decisionSocialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.😂 and that is how true brainwashing works Oh dear
(DIR) Post #AEV3YXj5479zE4aVUW by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T16:08:03Z
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@EmmaFaber @sim I have no obligation toward someone on the street.If I intervene, I am making myself judge, jury, and executioner.Otherwise, I did nothing to cause the situation.In the meantime, free stuff from government ruins everything good, so I must oppose it both morally and practically.
(DIR) Post #AEV5766nq0ubf5iyX2 by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T16:25:31.794331Z
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@amerika @sim The only money the government has is the peoples and if the peoples health is not considered their first priority then everything else will fail and that is what we are are seeing http://factmyth.com/factoids/the-us-is-the-only-very-highly-developed-country-without-universal-healthcare/
(DIR) Post #AEV5CeYhBJcdxDQ6lc by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T16:26:31Z
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@EmmaFaber @sim You confuse method and goal.If free markets provide better healthcare, then socialized medicine is the enemy.In fact, that's what history suggests.The more we regulate, the worse it gets.
(DIR) Post #AEV6cZ8y2KvmdwJ1xA by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T16:42:25.272276Z
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@amerika @sim nope it is no surprise America is on a downward spiral when the people feel abandoned there is no reason for Americans to be mentally tortured as they arebut I am afraid the propaganda against socialism has taken them down that route..and I think Hillary would have taken them a long a totally different route but it is all too late now..
(DIR) Post #AEVHacBypWrF0yzHqC by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T18:20:43.528964Z
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@amerika @sim @EmmaFaber What's comical is how so many "proud Americans" have the empathy range of a rattlesnake when it comes to standing by their less fortunate fellow Americans.What drove labour offshore was an inability to compete with foreign labour costs in poorer or more repressive countries (or latterly in American prisons). Since in those countries people could and did live on a couple of dollars a day, competition was never going to be an option. But I guess you think all those American blue collar workers should have been prepared to settle for third world wage and just starve?
(DIR) Post #AEVHaccZEg7oLRQWHY by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T18:45:16Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber Historically, labor went abroad after costs rose here. Otherwise, it's easier to produce domestically and cost-effective even if more expensive.But costs rose a lot.The industry that kicked it off was the auto industry, which had just been held hostage by unions for a decade. They finally tired of the charade and starting making parts abroad.
(DIR) Post #AEVHgF61c6Sp7ZsxVo by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T18:06:59.581241Z
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@sim @amerika @EmmaFaber And that's supposed to be a good thing?By definition, wealth and opportunity are both unevenly distributed. If local community is the only way you pool resources, then rich local communities will pretty soon become paradise enclaves, poor communities will become slum and war zones. And then the big fucking walls will go up because guess what, most people prefer a paradise enclave to a war zone.Plus you're still not explaining how you build an interstate freeway or a nuclear power station or an international airport at "community level."Get real. It's the 21st century. You're not living in an episode of Little House on the fucking Prairie.
(DIR) Post #AEVHgFdhatP0o1dr0K by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T18:46:11Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber If the poor areas turn into warzones and slums, then something's wrong with the people there.Your way leads to every place being poor because you're taking money away from the people who can generate more of it....gosh, just like the Soviets.
(DIR) Post #AEVHl7fEfo4XWEgLK4 by otso@pleroma.karjalazet.se
2021-12-17T17:46:48.774992Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber @sim
(DIR) Post #AEVHl84l8uUMnOcj6e by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T18:47:12Z
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@otso @EmmaFaber @sim At 50% tax rate minimum with American military protection.When the latter goes, so does that little dream.It's also worth noting that what works for a mostly-Nordic nation of five million is not going to scale.
(DIR) Post #AEVHmZCzkUxVEiA3nc by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T18:47:27Z
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@EmmaFaber @sim Socialism never does anything but kill societies.
(DIR) Post #AEVI0qTaLT54qRjJ1k by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T18:50:04Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber Also, if we removed the taxes, unions, regulations, and excess laws governing labor, we would be doing better than your "muh free money" program.Costs would be lower and quality higher, as it was before this exercise.
(DIR) Post #AEVIHbvrfk3cf1x3r6 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T18:53:04Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 To Leftists, charity and volunteering doesn't exist.Only their primary goal: wealth transfer, meaning government does everything.We're talking about culture.These people are talking about how to serve the system.
(DIR) Post #AEVIMRhj7x0GO3e0TA by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T18:53:57Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber I don't think you understand much of how this world works.If you want to build any of those things, you get investors and set up a bond drive or sell stocks or other instruments.No single community is going to fund those, and it's probably unwise to have federal government control them.
(DIR) Post #AEVIU0xCT73HjrUUCW by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T18:55:18Z
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@EmmaFaber @sim Americans are mentally tortured because the "solutions" that you suggest are failing.In fact, they've always been failing, but now it's just more obvious.Socialism doesn't work.Hillary is a criminal who just wants to see what she can steal.Luckily, there are socialist countries for those who want such things.
(DIR) Post #AEVIVAlJUGKCRqU0fY by Clariana@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T18:55:32.547456Z
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@amerika @sim So we get funeral costs?Win!
(DIR) Post #AEVIcyUN0EM8hSHJSK by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T18:56:54Z
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@Clariana @sim I don't know who else is going to bury the corpse.
(DIR) Post #AEVIg96lybXCVJkkWe by Clariana@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T18:57:31.949013Z
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@amerika @sim Lemme guess... You're a young ignorant male with zero real life experience...
(DIR) Post #AEVIj64HjhHPwazqYS by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T18:58:00Z
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@Clariana @sim Swing and a miss.
(DIR) Post #AEVIleagLx4japMwzI by Clariana@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T18:58:31.390373Z
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@amerika @sim But why would you bury the corpse? That's so expensive! Just leave those undeserving corpses laying around dude!
(DIR) Post #AEVIosJZmeEF1gu75k by Clariana@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T18:59:06.382924Z
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@amerika @sim What else are you going to say?
(DIR) Post #AEVIqgFXc1Y8BbsTLs by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T18:59:22Z
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@Clariana @sim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGDTwit60xo
(DIR) Post #AEVItQmjZ96z5miNgu by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T18:59:54Z
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@Clariana @sim Without good faith, there's not much point saying anything of substance, is there?I mean, you just discredited yourself.How's the weather there?
(DIR) Post #AEVIvyozzQnvEYzQ9o by Clariana@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T19:00:23.667928Z
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@amerika @sim Oh BAD pop music! Totally persuasive dude!
(DIR) Post #AEVJ578kQmuPdiaBWK by Clariana@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T19:02:02.517436Z
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@amerika @sim Your ideas are frankly ridiculous and take no account of human experience so I'm assuming they come from a tainted source.
(DIR) Post #AEVJBaBRMSKVSBvUtE by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T19:03:11Z
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@Clariana @sim Did I mention that I think Brexit is wonderful and Nigel Farage is a hero?Carcass is a UK band.
(DIR) Post #AEVJCwUTuRTKvZTtEO by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T19:03:24Z
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@Clariana @sim You projected, you failed.
(DIR) Post #AEVJDDNf737PJLQBSi by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T19:03:30.448281Z
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@amerika @sim America is built on the hatred of women and is as religiously fundamentalist as any Islamic stateand it never got to grips with it's own racism or sexism and now it is reaping what it sowed a society that hates each other and who are going to tear each other part and wreck everythingand socially that is what America have created for themselves
(DIR) Post #AEVJMuSOKF0NW3Fwm0 by Clariana@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T19:05:15.576630Z
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@amerika @Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber I'm pretty sure you're WRONG about Richard!
(DIR) Post #AEVJU0ZhyeIYWA40GW by Clariana@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T19:06:32.570479Z
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@amerika @sim Who cares? They are bad and generic and using them to make a point (?) only puts on display your intellectual and cultural limitations. As does this statement, of course.
(DIR) Post #AEVMb8yXRUtwSdluNM by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T19:41:23Z
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@Clariana @sim They're credited as one of the inventors of their genre, so...Me: 2You: 0I wish you luck in all your future endeavors.
(DIR) Post #AEVRUOWzhwgiRxUOoa by Clariana@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T20:36:14.525701Z
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@amerika @sim Love it! You invent the game, invent the rules and NATURALLY, proclaim yourself the winner...Just how pathetic, childish and lacking are you?
(DIR) Post #AEVVOp7WKwT6zgAnR2 by otso@pleroma.karjalazet.se
2021-12-17T21:12:29.110900Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber @sim
(DIR) Post #AEVVq3yNDvj4sPsqAa by otso@pleroma.karjalazet.se
2021-12-17T21:16:57.469636Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber @sim "with American military protection" not joking??
(DIR) Post #AEVVq4ObeOi4Bm9n3g by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T21:24:57Z
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@otso @EmmaFaber @sim Nope. American military is a big deterrent in Western Europe. I make no other claims on it.
(DIR) Post #AEVVtYtwgk7bfWTrtY by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T21:25:35Z
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@otso @EmmaFaber @sim See, one-factor analysis... will tell you almost nothing.Lots of people in the UK can't afford houses or are living in genteel poverty because prices are all artificially inflated.
(DIR) Post #AEVWjvc9UGCPAc80SO by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-17T21:35:05.070214Z
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@amerika @otso @sim well there are thousands of Americans now in their 50's living in camper vans after losing their homes because they couldn't pay their medical bills or lost them because their investments went down the tubethose Americans are parking up in Wal-Mart car parks and working at amazon and they turn up everyday to see if there is any work for them these are people in their 50's and 60's, who have only ever lived in houses now running their hearts out working at amazonamazon makes billionsand they are doing these homeless people a favour by screwing them into the groundyou really have a disgusting idea of humanity
(DIR) Post #AEVc9i9ydGwmk43yRU by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T22:35:42Z
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@EmmaFaber @otso @sim ...because we drove up the cost of medicine by making it an insurance concern, while using it to provide free care to illegal aliens.Remove insurance, and cash-pay works better... as it did in the past.
(DIR) Post #AEVcE4PDrfZUtXGxgu by otso@pleroma.karjalazet.se
2021-12-17T21:31:51.683329Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber @sim I don't know anything about UK, never been there, only once when in school.Great Britain is not part of the free world nor is USA and Israel.
(DIR) Post #AEVcE4qAFV7eF5sTgW by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T22:36:32Z
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@otso @EmmaFaber @sim The UK is a lovely place.Its health system is a disaster, as is Canada's.As a realist, I could never emulate those.I am also not impressed with European healthcare in general, based on the horror stories people tell when they come here for care they can't get back home.That'll bankrupt ya.
(DIR) Post #AEVcI336qne7qTpI12 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-17T22:37:15Z
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@otso @EmmaFaber @sim And to add, following up on the rape stats which @EmmaFaber posted yesterday, I wouldn't ever invite the US Army into my country.But, Eurasia is a billion people, and Asia three billion. Europe needs "bulk" to stand them off.
(DIR) Post #AEVsvP9mBhNuyGjW3k by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T01:43:41.007752Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber Yeah. Just like the whole idea that dropping litter is okay and you don't need to put it in the bin because somebody else is paid to pick it up. Don't want to put them out of a job. It's lazy.
(DIR) Post #AEVt52s3tsXIkV2oTI by Jar@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T01:45:24.863997Z
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@sim @amerika @EmmaFaber Ugh do people really think like that? :cat-meme-3:
(DIR) Post #AEVtRzpRNSxdyRlJRo by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T01:49:34.375064Z
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@Jar @EmmaFaber @amerika Yes. But perhaps it was more of a teenager/young person attitude over here. Although it is amazing where you will find litter, in hedges, on the roadside, and even by the bin itself. Amazing. On saying that, there are people who will go out of their way here to help with litter picking when those are organised. So you get the best of both worlds. People will be people.
(DIR) Post #AEVtb6fNKBcfmqOkhU by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T01:51:13.197309Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber Yeah, that has been my experience with it. It's great for those things that need more support if it is physical. But we're still a long ways off for anything else. I hope with the research that it gets better.
(DIR) Post #AEVtqFqrSLkQcNzgTA by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T01:53:57.445490Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber Yeah, it is very difficult to convince people to care. Especially when they think things like, "I pay taxes so that's my part done." That's not really the right attitude that we want people to adopt in a community.
(DIR) Post #AEVv01oEcVl7uszQBs by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T02:06:55.732887Z
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@Quellist1 @EmmaFaber @amerika You really are moving those goal posts, aren't you? I don't know what this has to do with the point I was making about using community to support those with addictions and bad habits. That it gives them the values and direction they are lacking right now. Do you really think it costs a lot of money to do this? What you speak of is happening now. Bringing community back helps the poor and working class. Gives the power back to the local community to make the changes their area needs. If you really want to, you can support funding into that instead of whatever we have right now.
(DIR) Post #AEVvhmSl2Tb33uo4sC by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T02:14:50.165427Z
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@amerika @Quellist1 @EmmaFaber On the other hand, you can always tempt local business to contribute some income and labour to support the local community. I'm sure they would want to support it. I really don't think it costs a lot, unless you are paying people a lot of money to do things.
(DIR) Post #AEVw5dvcQCTjXigVhA by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T02:19:08.014287Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Oh, when you put it like that then I can understand where the confusion is.I don't think people realise that the state has come between people caring about their neighbours. It enriches itself, taking on more roles while the local community is impoverished in this way. There are just some things the state should not be replacing.
(DIR) Post #AEVwvyHQ03Rbijpj3Q by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T02:28:35.534681Z
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@Clariana @amerika Tell me again how starting out in the thread with the following is good faith or contributing: "So we get funeral costs?Win!"Amerika came into the thread to contribute to it. It only devolved to childish responses when you came into the thread with that attitude and he responded in kind. We were doing well until then.
(DIR) Post #AEVwzBFAG2sqnNJEfY by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T02:29:09Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Old way: we have a duty to charity in our local community among the deserving.New way: government took half or more of my wealth in order to give to the worthless.
(DIR) Post #AEVx0iDh8d9hMKLu4G by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T02:29:26Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 The magic words: "tax deductible."
(DIR) Post #AEVx3wvCvwnXpCFTeq by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T02:30:00Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 To normal people, you argued for more civic activity.To Leftists that says you're cutting off the free money train.
(DIR) Post #AEVx5uzh4UsQQRHmaW by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T02:30:21Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber Once you take that tax money, they have no reason to care, and not enough extra money to make a difference in all but a few cases.
(DIR) Post #AEVx6mdvbdYIoZWA9w by antares@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T02:30:33.665710Z
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@sim I'm just going to throw it out there: some doctors are just greedy butchers and may leave you in worse health than when you came through the door.I don't want to be forced to pay into this system by the government.
(DIR) Post #AEVxAbd4UsgjoXwKEC by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T02:31:13Z
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@Jar @sim @EmmaFaber It's union-think. You pick up litter in a union plant, you'll get beat, because that's someone else's job. It also gives him the right to take anything that looks like litter, so it's an entitlement too.
(DIR) Post #AEVxSOyqGQUBnTbmnQ by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T02:34:27.773083Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 I would like to bring the old way back, having a duty to charity in our local community. I'm just not sure how best to go about bringing community back or convincing people to care again. I'm not sure if we can reverse this now. A lot of damage has been done in the span of a short time.
(DIR) Post #AEVxX7BhqMHG3vsBO4 by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T02:35:19.104869Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Yeah. I think that happens with charity right now, right?
(DIR) Post #AEVxv1nBYUpsHKo2Yi by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T02:39:36Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Yes, but most of the money goes to salaries because how charities are constituted.
(DIR) Post #AEVxweHRwWSjw9jccC by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T02:39:55.981056Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Exactly. I would think that people would want to support the local community and empower them to support and care for each other. It has nothing to do with wealthy communities which probably already do things like this. I care about the lower classes getting community back in their neighbourhoods, finding ways to incentivise this and figuring out why we lost it.
(DIR) Post #AEVyE7VkW8OtW7kplI by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T02:42:18Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Wealthy people donate a ton of money across America.It's basically all that's left for them to do with their money that has any meaning for them.Proles don't understand the difference between wealth and income.
(DIR) Post #AEVyEEgdq2Gxlvu8DA by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T02:43:06.685365Z
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@antares That sounds fair. It's hard to know how to hold them accountable so they don't leave people in worse health.
(DIR) Post #AEVyLHJiSQalxNXUeG by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T02:44:23.073816Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Yeah. I think we need a better model at this point.
(DIR) Post #AEVyY6I6lMgHWbtw12 by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T02:46:42.087910Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Yeah. Not to mention that when you look at wealth, a lot of it is tied up in assets like property. They don't have that money spare to hand on them.
(DIR) Post #AEVzFRfPAEsuGySysS by antares@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T02:54:32.190531Z
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@sim I scrolled through this thread observing that healthcare is understood as a beneficial resource when it is entirely possible for it to be corrupt and harmful to society.I don't have any particular faith in socialism, capitalism, or so on political -ism from the 20th century or earlier if money is truly the root of all evil. I just know shit is fucked.
(DIR) Post #AEVzgkXT6fUGccm33Q by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T02:59:24Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 A lot of it has to do with how our laws regarding conducting business are organized. If everything is corporate, charities will be too.The less we regulate them, the less it costs to run one and the simpler it is, therefore the more money goes to the goal.
(DIR) Post #AEVzsF2G3rAqOIegtc by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T03:01:30Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Idiot Leftists look at Bezos, Zuck, etc. and figure, "Oh, he's worth $200bn? That's $625 for each American!"
(DIR) Post #AEW1B9D036BZmAG62C by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T03:16:10.068652Z
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@antares Yeah. I think that healthcare is beneficial, we do need it. But we're doing it wrong and I don't know how to do it right, if it can be done right. Certainly, I don't think it needs to do everything it does right now and the model it is based on is corrupt. It's crazy how much social healthcare will pay for managers while claiming that it needs more money.That sounds fair. I'm not happy with the state of modern politics. I think there is too much emphasis on the economy and money, it eclipses the very things that have meaning in our lives. What is the point in having a good economy if it leads to the loss of culture, community, beauty, etc.? If it destroys what we should be preserving and passing to our children?
(DIR) Post #AEW1PeNMxzeOUf1ZVg by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T03:18:47.373934Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 That is unfortunate. I don't think charities should be using the corporate model but it seems they are. It is certainly more paper work to set up a charity than it should be.
(DIR) Post #AEW1jjTRipGi62RVKa by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T03:22:25.153541Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Perhaps we need to look at our wealth model in general. My personal favourite is thinking that the west is rich while it is sunk into debts that no sane person would get themselves into or be allowed to get away with. But somehow people will see the spending as nothing.
(DIR) Post #AEW2CuBayQrjiX0I9w by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T03:27:40Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 All those clever rules to limit corporations... non-profits are corporations, just cannot distribute money.
(DIR) Post #AEW2F4Ny1UNlvhp42y by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T03:28:03Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Our wealth seems entirely to be based on usury and spending of tax money.That's a dead-end economic cycle like the Soviet Union.
(DIR) Post #AEW2nxVXaQeojZ09eS by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-18T03:34:23.097589Z
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@amerika @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 reading about mmt makes me want to claw my eyes out
(DIR) Post #AEW36fz4xlXLt5k7k0 by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T03:37:45.744687Z
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@amerika @sim @Quellist1 When I think of all the American companies clawing all the money in?and then I think you stupid fucking bastards
(DIR) Post #AEW3rWvIT9bzObJcf2 by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T03:46:13.700502Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 I'm guessing they weren't thinking that charities would become corporations.
(DIR) Post #AEW3zT6IZ6kXrCFM7E by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T03:47:40.386486Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Yeah. I'm not sure why we have to be in debt to be considered successful. Maybe a scale problem?
(DIR) Post #AEW43Ss1MagcIjTSIC by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T03:48:21Z
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@dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 It's speculation made into finance. No wonder there's so much corruption.
(DIR) Post #AEW44kQTZqBh2TCaSu by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T03:48:36Z
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@EmmaFaber @sim @Quellist1 Clawing it in, and paying most of it right back out.Lotta salaries riding on that.
(DIR) Post #AEW47i4Ao5g2aaBNFQ by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T03:49:08Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 I don't think anyone was thinking. They just reacted to perceived needs by writing laws all over the place.
(DIR) Post #AEW48GQh2rtRAGyq4O by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T03:49:15.725783Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Is this the part where we go back to the gold standard?
(DIR) Post #AEW4BubU8SoKdBleGe by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T03:49:50Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 When an economy is based upon selling debt as a commodity, it makes sense for government to keep debt.It's a circular Ponzi scheme: Keynesian socialism "pump priming" keeps consumerism afloat and provides massive tax revenues, so government can continue leeching.
(DIR) Post #AEW4DCtJd0bldej1AO by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T03:50:09.356499Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Especially when they take on government contracts.
(DIR) Post #AEW4E1uTwQqPs2fAZ6 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T03:50:16Z
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@sim @dew_the_dew @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Or just totally stop taking on debt.
(DIR) Post #AEW4Fns96WKsuePrCC by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T03:50:36Z
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@sim @dew_the_dew @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 We're in sort of permanent wartime mode, borrowing money to beat the Germans or Japanese.
(DIR) Post #AEW4HLWrSGLraRCDLc by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T03:50:53Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 True. Not to mention how shareholders benefit.
(DIR) Post #AEW4OMflbKwdA1hy7c by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-18T03:52:10.022011Z
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@amerika @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 except it's the war on poverty and the war on drugs and now the war on racism and sexism
(DIR) Post #AEW4QMwNZluaZSQzEO by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T03:52:31.742384Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Keynesian again? I've heard we are following his model. Just didn't know this was involved with that. Selling debt doesn't sound like a good thing, like it would become circular as you mention.
(DIR) Post #AEW4So7FVfKPQtgIdc by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T03:52:58.528553Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 That could work too.
(DIR) Post #AEW4aGHVBq2eoU20lE by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T03:54:18.561729Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Are we still in the cold war?
(DIR) Post #AEW4axk1bfPJbOhtgm by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T03:54:25.818667Z
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@amerika @sim @Quellist1 no, we are talking, google, amazon, twitter, FBhttps://www.statista.com/topics/1001/google/#dossierKeyfigures
(DIR) Post #AEW4e1JglpEfYjqY1A by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-18T03:54:59.986454Z
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@amerika @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 i have a feeling that the fed would try to destroy us if we somehow forced the government to stop borrowing
(DIR) Post #AEW4qyT0g0ouUBNpWy by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T03:57:20.564704Z
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@amerika @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Shareholders involved too? If I didn't know any better, we're getting into anti-capitalist territory. Ha.
(DIR) Post #AEW4sGPZRdbUQgODHE by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-18T03:57:34.382056Z
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@sim @amerika @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 we're in a larger era called the 'post war era' (lol) of which the cold war is a subset. the origin myth of the post war era, that defines our values, and the lines on the maps, and pretty much everything else is that we beat the nazis who were trying to holocaust all the jews and therefore nationalism is bad and white nationalism is even worse, the worst thing ever, the ultimate evil. our tree of life is poisoned.
(DIR) Post #AEW4tYK0LAgaGaOthw by buttered_poasties@poa.st
2021-12-18T03:57:48.364579Z
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@dew_the_dew @amerika @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 @sim destroy the fedkikes instead.
(DIR) Post #AEW4x197d0jKX5xk5w by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-18T03:58:25.864495Z
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@buttered_poasties @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 @amerika @sim oy vey
(DIR) Post #AEW5PAZ0CxHRqgUYCW by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T04:03:31.377908Z
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@dew_the_dew @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 @amerika Post war era is such a funny phrase because we're still going to war in the Middle East. Or interfering in the affairs of other countries, especially within western countries themselves. Nationalism bad. Internationalism good. Empires are bad except when it is the international empire we're working towards. All about that scale. The bigger the scale, the better.
(DIR) Post #AEWkfcqs2GXRJmqq80 by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T11:26:48.192103Z
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@amerika @sim @EmmaFaber "My way?" And what pray, do you conceive is "my way?"Meanwhile, what you're saying is that anywhere poor areas suffer, y'know, the usual privations of a poor area, it's because the people there simply did not have the fine moral character that you, good sir, popped out of the womb with. There are good people and bad people, and obviously anyone suffering privation deserves it because they fall in the latter camp.Jesus fucking Christ, I was wrong, you're not living in an episode of Little House on the Prairie - you're living in some medieval Calvinist cesspit by way of a 1950s superhero comic. All hail the Elect!
(DIR) Post #AEWmDpAErfjfIvmWKO by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T11:13:51.644212Z
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@sim @amerika @EmmaFaber You can't tempt local businesses to contribute if they are in the process of failing and shuttering due to economic factors beyond their control.https://www.businessinsider.com/10-american-cities-that-are-dead-forever-2010-9?r=US&IR=TAnd NB those are *cities* the article talks about. Similar processes act on small towns with a totality that's cataclysmic. Suggest you watch the movie "Nomadland" to get some sense of how this works.
(DIR) Post #AEWmDpYhOjIkWnE3SC by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T12:03:17.005693Z
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@Quellist1 @EmmaFaber @amerika I would want to support local businesses so they don't falter, try to revive the high street again. Just as I want to revive the community. I want to reverse the trend of centralising into large corporations. It's not going to be easy though.
(DIR) Post #AEWojVDUlROEc5XPRA by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:31:24Z
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@dew_the_dew @buttered_poasties @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Or as we say:"Oi McVeigh!"
(DIR) Post #AEWomrm5LoeHRbJyEK by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:31:59Z
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@dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 In my view, we're all being taken for a ride by American Civil War, which was itself an attempt to bring the French Revolution to America.Equality by government.The sane recognize that equality is a fiction of the human mind, like a winning streak at poker.
(DIR) Post #AEWoolxrvIBi0Jk2ym by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:32:20Z
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@dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Octopus tentacles?
(DIR) Post #AEWoxL3vJZXfAresdc by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:33:53Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Fine distinction time: I'm pro-capitalist, but I see it as only an economic system, which means that it needs to be balanced by the other parts of civilization: culture and authority.Government is the largest economic actor in our society, and yet the ill-educated and illiterate talk about "muh capitalism."Most of the bad effects of the markets track back to government action.But I trust nothing in an absolute, so being pro-cap is not the same as "cap alone."
(DIR) Post #AEWp2VUDz8icx6QP3o by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:34:50Z
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@EmmaFaber @sim @Quellist1 True for those too. I don't like any of those companies but a lot of people have their retirement wealth riding on those stocks in part.Are we gonna talk about BlackRock here? Because that's the argument I'd craft, if I were not me in this discussion.
(DIR) Post #AEWp9sAs1xmLLPstqC by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:36:11Z
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@sim @dew_the_dew @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 The Left is currently claiming the GOP is allied with Communist Russia in some of their propaganda... so yes.But the question is what really was the cold war?We had two heads of the hydra, democracy and communism, warring it out.Both were Leftists. That's post-Enlightenment jive.I think we're still in Athens-v-Sparta, because that's where this debate was first left unresolved.But we're also still stranded in postwar lore incl Cold War.
(DIR) Post #AEWpCQtJvPDPb1td3o by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-18T12:36:38.970087Z
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@amerika @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 most of the 'pro' poker players are in debt to their stakers and make money off wearing logos on televised events. it's a great game and i love to play but the variance is absolutely brutal. the one thing that separates the long term winners from the long term losers is bankroll management, which is much more conservative than most with a gambler mentality are willing to adhere to. like to play 1/2 no limit profitably you should have about 20 to 40 grand behind in order to handle the swings without tilting and losing more and you would probably end up making about 20 bucks an hour over the long term.
(DIR) Post #AEWpEZMdOV60SAcu4u by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:36:59Z
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@sim @dew_the_dew @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 They fear nationalism. Why?It's localized, particular, case-by-case, and not One Big Rule for everyone, applied by world government.Leftists want a third world society where a warlord gives out gifts and keeps everyone in line.None of their policies work, but we dump money on them relentlessly.
(DIR) Post #AEWpIAgB76ER3MUA08 by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-18T12:37:41.154952Z
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@amerika @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 federal reserve rule 34
(DIR) Post #AEWpKDPZvTPm6ehCG8 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:38:02Z
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@sim @dew_the_dew @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Some economists argue that some debt is useful in the Keynesian model.I think it's not an economics question solely, but it's an important economics question. When you become debt-based, it contorts everything else.Government is a huge market distortion and I'd take it out, because I want a situation where quality wins out over quantity.
(DIR) Post #AEWpOJE0Fp4tIJEXTs by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:38:46Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 All market socialism -- the system almost every nation on Earth uses -- is Keynesian in part.It taxes and distributes the money in order to stimulate the economy and take in more taxes, therefore be able to borrow more.
(DIR) Post #AEWpSS6nAP0y0MpuQC by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:39:30Z
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@dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Forever wars.The French Revolution created a society which could not feed itself, so their solution was to militarize and mass mobilize, leading to the disaster of the Napoleonic Wars.Same thing happening now.Forever wars are a way of keeping our citizens obedient.And now we have... the war on COVID-19!
(DIR) Post #AEWpWtF8Du5NJrqx6G by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-18T12:40:20.789571Z
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@amerika @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 oh god i can't believe i forgot the war on old people dying. we have to jab everyone until nobody ever dies again.
(DIR) Post #AEWpczD4x32pYxneNc by pyrate@poa.st
2021-12-18T12:41:26.892000Z
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@dew_the_dew @amerika @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 @sim Is it time for a fifth boosters? Experts say, yes you will take another jab!
(DIR) Post #AEWpgjmuETYMtGLXQu by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-18T12:42:07.552795Z
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@pyrate @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 @amerika @sim oh you're fully vaccinated? lol not for long!
(DIR) Post #AEWphDydzOlgWM4KtU by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T11:03:39.482267Z
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@amerika @sim @EmmaFaber What, you mean like this one? 🤪 https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/trump-scam-charity/
(DIR) Post #AEWphEMkXm3Bj7LaT2 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:42:12Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber I don't trust Dreher; he's a Benedict Option cuck.I haven't seen anything excessive from the Trump charities so far.Are we looking into the Clinton Foundation?I'll let you in on a secret:I don't like people who have a habit of arguing on the internet.They're point-scorers who always obscure the issue.If you can grow up and have an adult discussion, I'm interested, otherwise... toddle off.
(DIR) Post #AEWppEuaOlpZjgzc4O by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-18T12:43:39.749485Z
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@amerika @Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber PRIMITIVE
(DIR) Post #AEWqGufhFDXP4RDx6O by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:48:38Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber http://www.city-data.com/city/Buffalo-New-York.html40% whitehttp://www.city-data.com/city/Flint-Michigan.html36% whitehttps://www.city-data.com/city/Hartford-Connecticut.html15% whitehttps://www.city-data.com/city/Cleveland-Ohio.html32% whitehttp://www.city-data.com/city/New-Orleans-Louisiana.html30% whitehttp://www.city-data.com/city/Albany-Oregon.html80% whitehttp://www.city-data.com/city/Allentown-Pennsylvania.html29% whitehttps://www.city-data.com/city/Galveston-Texas.html47% whiteWho wrote your list, the Klan?There's a practical reason for Galveston, dying, too. Let's see if you're clever enough to spot it.
(DIR) Post #AEWqNB88xoprr1W9JI by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:49:45Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber Let's see: we talked about volunteering, and you had a panic attack about lack of wealth redistribution.We know your way.Poor areas suffer because poor people are dumber.The Elect, or those chosen by God, are the smarter people.They have a duty, but that's to provide a functional society, not hand out money, which is the mentally lazy solution.
(DIR) Post #AEWqQfUcX79stHh9Ki by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:50:23Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Number one way to support local business is to cut or remove their taxes.The more you tax, the more you get big corporations because only they can handle the load.
(DIR) Post #AEWqThw5uEqDKvzkG0 by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T12:50:57.762705Z
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@dew_the_dew @amerika @sim @Quellist1 Apparently according to men, men are civilised demanding to see millions of women and girls being raped and tortured for their own personal male amusement it is sad but most men get off on seeing women being torturedand that is not because men are civilised but because they absolutely aren't men are only part human and the part of them that isn't human sticks out like a sore thumb
(DIR) Post #AEWqUQdtgk1VzWpLdo by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T12:08:50.511809Z
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@sim @amerika @EmmaFaber That's admirable. But support for local businesses is only possible in a crisis context via intervention at municipal or state (or in the US federal) level. That's the whole point of economies of scale and risk distribution. It's why nation states work! If you want to work at local level, what you primarily have to do is get the vote out and hold municipal and national governments to account.
(DIR) Post #AEWqURBveDFHh4kWga by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:51:04Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber That's completely not true.If you have lots of healthy local areas, they can each have functional infrastructure.Economies of scale refer to benefits of iteration, not centralization.As usual, Leftists have zero economic understanding.
(DIR) Post #AEWqXNCExPdUAkILRI by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T12:33:59.332491Z
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@sim @EmmaFaber @amerika Further to that, the tragedy of modern America (in the humble opinion of this outsider) lies in this obsessive nostalgia for a down-home small town Eden that never was (unless you're a racist, of course - during the 1920s, membership of the KKK was drawn almost whollly from rural and small town populations!). Life in a (prosperous) small town can be nice, sure. But it isn't the whole game, hasn't been even the majority game now in America for a hundred years. The US is a massive urban and industrial superpower, with all that implies, and the sooner the non-urban population can come to terms with that, the better the chances of creating a genuinely equitable society.
(DIR) Post #AEWqXNaLVmuzNVZb0q by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:51:37Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber > that never wasOop, there's the begging-the-question fallacy that I knew was going to be there.Urbanization hit 50% in 2007 worldwide.
(DIR) Post #AEWqepuAcNHvEmOx3Q by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:52:57Z
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@pyrate @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 This is their new forever war, joining:* Drugs* Racism* Poverty* SexismAs targets. It's the way they justify taking half of everything and wasting most of it just so they can take kickbacks.https://www.amerika.org/politics/we-live-in-a-federal-tammany-hall/
(DIR) Post #AEWqhrIlsh4wRELjrU by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:53:29Z
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@dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 If someone made that as a film, I bet it would tear up the charts.
(DIR) Post #AEWqnvN1fPtWnJERhA by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-18T12:54:37.828893Z
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@amerika @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 gayniggers from outer space would have to make a cameo
(DIR) Post #AEWqsDGr3V0jTCOH0S by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T12:52:17.615335Z
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@amerika @sim @EmmaFaber If you accept that government is the largest economic actor in society, and you acknowledge that the engine of capitalism needs to be balanced by culture and authority - then I fail to see where, except for within government, you are going to locate those two things.You're right that government action has precipitated most of the disastrous impact of capital systems in the last century - and those specific actions can summarised in the single word "deregulation". When a government steps back from regulating corporations, those corporations will behave in exactly the same way people will behave if the law steps back from policing them - worse, though, because (a) a corporation's reach and impact is far greater than any individual and (b) though American law has - insanely - given corporate bodies the legal attributes of a person, they do not possess any of the evolved moral perceptions inherent in humans. In effect, what US law has done is hand power to a class of super-rich sociopathic non-human entities. And then we're surprised when they poison the water and soil with impunity, destroy inconvenient communities and hide the truth from view.You're right that "capitalism" is not the problem - any more than "fire" is the problem. But you'd also (rightly) consider a nation that refused to create fire brigades and fire safety regulations to be insane.
(DIR) Post #AEWqsDffZErOiA05gW by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:55:20Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber Government is currently the largest economic actor. That is the mistake.Regulation is a separate issue, but also imposes costs.Fire brigades make sense at the local level.I prefer common law to regulations. That is, if the experts point out that something should be done for a solid reason, and a builder doesn't do it, and a fire breaks out, let them be sued.They fear that and prefer regulations.
(DIR) Post #AEWqz11B0fDNUmIi9o by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:56:37Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber Also, I believe you simply misunderstand legal personhood. It's a legal construct that allows them to interact in a system designed for people, including to be sued.They are super-rich because of your taxes.Here's my solution to environmental issues:https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/toledo-ohio-just-granted-lake-erie-same-legal-rights-people-180971603/https://www.half-earthproject.org/
(DIR) Post #AEWr4TMT3b4yqgrUGm by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:57:34Z
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@dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 No one here has watched the movie.At first you think it's about race, then you realize that it's not.It's not about homosexuality or sexism either.It's a brilliant postmodern look at Otherness and scapegoating.Almost as good as "Repo Man," funded by Mike Nesmith (RIP).
(DIR) Post #AEWrAN5nHHDF8xsL5s by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T12:58:39Z
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@EmmaFaber @dew_the_dew @sim @Quellist1 > most men get off on seeing women being torturedDo they actually?I think you confuse bloodlust with lust.Most of our bloodlust is for other men.
(DIR) Post #AEWrKFrozpGnd93KvA by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:00:27Z
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@dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 They're transitioning to pills or suppositories now.
(DIR) Post #AEWrNOS1XPV37bTzHc by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:01:01Z
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@dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 I am a primitive Cro-Magnid Supremacist.Death to the 'Thals and Dennies!
(DIR) Post #AEWrbJXAcFObvTWmcS by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-18T13:03:33.344267Z
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@amerika @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 ROOT
(DIR) Post #AEWrqMHqfAVoo8XDlo by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T13:02:22.471263Z
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@amerika @sim @EmmaFaber Worldwide.In America, the tipping point was between 1910 and 1920.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization_in_the_United_States"that never was" refers to the Edenic illusion - i.e. bad shit went down in small towns just like it did elsewhere (and very notably if you didn't happen to be white).
(DIR) Post #AEWrqMiR4JmO8aySDA by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:06:15Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber Yes, the point being it's recent.I think you mistake us for Utopians.Bad stuff happens everywhere, no matter what you do.All you can do is protect the good people and yeet the bad.Diversity is a failure everywhere it has been tried, no matter what groups are involved.
(DIR) Post #AEWsTfUtAnxxgINXw8 by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T13:11:19.846492Z
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@amerika @sim @EmmaFaber Nope - I understand it only too well. Basically, any indicted executive can claim that he was acting to maximise company value for shareholders, *and that as an officer of the company this is his only moral duty in law*Most successful corporations are super-rich because they found a way to give people something they want or need. But yes, more recently, it's also because they have become good at rent seeking and lobbying.The Erie bill of rights is interesting, but it will hinge entirely on how successful corporations are in maintaining their lobby stranglehold. Cf the use of asbestos -
(DIR) Post #AEWsTfuPduNmxSJvii by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:13:21Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber Non-sequitur. Corporate personhood is necessary in a legal system that inherits most of its rules from common law, which focuses on persons. It allows a business to act as a person so that it is subject to certain laws and has certain rights.You are confusing it with the nature of corporations themselves as organizations and piercing the corporate veil. The executive is acting with fiscal duty to the shareholders.
(DIR) Post #AEWsZ87YB9j1u54C7k by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:14:20Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber The average corporation is a business down the street.Why incorporate? To separate assets, mostly, so that we don't impoverish all principals if the company goes bankrupt, as over half of them do.I think your second paragraph is backward. Most super-rich corporations are that way because of regulation which made it impossible for their competition to enter the market.
(DIR) Post #AEWsfIVAUnaxpx3RyK by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:15:27Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber If you think about it, this is the same argument the Left uses for progressive taxation.$1k to a poor man is different than $1k to a rich man, and even "30% of your income" is different to a rich man, since that still leaves him with a huge amount.Companies either get big or perish.That makes them go public.Shareholders -- these are regular folks like us -- are only concerned with more value. Think of your retirement fund.
(DIR) Post #AEWsmX92S3gJHL9cJc by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:16:17Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber As far as asbestos, this one makes my point, I think.The lawsuits over asbestos devastated industry.This also put a lot of people out of work, but it created a business risk case for avoiding asbestos.They fear lawsuits much more than regulation.
(DIR) Post #AEWssR6BqKsEGUdVgm by pyrate@poa.st
2021-12-18T13:17:51.379602Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 anal suppositories*
(DIR) Post #AEWssWImUwusOzZ8Vc by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T13:14:22.138389Z
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@amerika @sim @EmmaFaber Unclear what you mean here - if it's that non-white people cause poverty, then I'm out and you are beneath contempt.If it's not that, then you are going to have to explain yourself better.
(DIR) Post #AEWssWjismT1kYAeVE by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:17:50Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber Who wrote your list, the Klan?Almost all of those cities are high diversity. You seem to be alleging that diversity killed them.And you didn't address the Galveston question.Albany is the interesting one. I suspect corruption.
(DIR) Post #AEWt50JajhSgxdtiEK by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T13:17:20.955681Z
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@amerika @sim @EmmaFaber Corporate personhood is absolutely 100% not necessary. They are not human entities and should not be regulated as such - a separate body of law is vital.And senior executives of corporations should go to jail for the rest of their natural lives if they sign off on illegal destructive acts (or help to lobby for legality of said acts).
(DIR) Post #AEWt50jTBUA6Fu0NZA by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:20:02Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber Yes, we already have that.No corporate officer can endorse an illegal act knowingly.Also, if they act outside of the law and not for the interests of the corporation, they are personally reachable.Without corporate personhood, corporations would not have participation in the legal system.We already have a separate body of law for them dealing with exactly the issues you list.
(DIR) Post #AEWtBNqCBFFBf9BpOC by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:21:14Z
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@pyrate @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Government loves to humiliate people."Here, shove this up your ass. Then suck this penis. Now repeat this insane dogma. Send your kids to drag queen story hour. Wave the flag when we bomb Islamic crazies. Don't be a Nazi."
(DIR) Post #AEWtOuG2xxqbxzjJ1k by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T13:23:42.652927Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @sim @Quellist1 > most men get off on seeing women being tortured>Do they actually?Yeah they do actually seeing women being raped and butchered is what unites the brotherhood together it is what they can all agree on in the name of their manhood and is why it is their all time favourite blood sporttearing into the femalebecause the female is the prize trophy they are all afterand every day of their miserable porn sick male lives they all dream about sticking their bayonets inter her, over and over again and it's the one thing men never get sick of repeating over and over again every day..
(DIR) Post #AEWtvDWcrkFyzRtKSG by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:29:32Z
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@EmmaFaber @dew_the_dew @sim @Quellist1 > seeing women being raped and butchered is what unites the brotherhood togetherI don't agree. We unite for the hunt, which is generally some large tasty creature in nature.With women, we do not want to share with the group.
(DIR) Post #AEWtvpYjSMWKwzAY0u by pyrate@poa.st
2021-12-18T13:29:40.446821Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 i haet the antichrist.
(DIR) Post #AEWu05ICtyAMuBT4uO by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T13:29:13.039614Z
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@amerika @sim @EmmaFaber Since the article is not mine, and I had no idea of the ethnic make-up of those cities until you went away and found the percentages and posted them, it's hard to see how I'm implying anything except what the article says, which is that it's macro-economics in action."Macro-" here carrying the additional meaning of "too big for any of you poor bastards at the "local community" level to do anything about.
(DIR) Post #AEWu05fbUysi4kPlNQ by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:30:22Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber The data goes against that idea. We're seeing local communities fail.You're arguing that a nation needs to subsidize this failure instead of recognizing that it exists for a reason.For example, Galveston.Gonna touch that one yet?Hint: IT'S A TRAP!
(DIR) Post #AEWu6BdCFRYaIkCB6W by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:31:30Z
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@pyrate @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 I don't think it's the antichrist doing this to us, but I may just like the book and song.
(DIR) Post #AEWuBGJEHbkiG2HBDM by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:32:26Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber We should also talk about the effect of unions on Detroit and Flint here.What turns company towns into ghost towns?Lee Iacoca, of course.
(DIR) Post #AEWuac0SkYnOn3aODA by pyrate@poa.st
2021-12-18T13:37:02.634474Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 No, to me the government is acting as if it is the supreme authority of the land. They must guarantee safety to a level at which no one ever dies, and the only way to do so is to take control of literally every aspect there is to life. Effectively this is the subversion of individual free will and spirituality. What they have in North Korea, they want for the world over. Tight obedience to the one world state before family and most importantly, before God. Fuck these tyrants.
(DIR) Post #AEWucPJ4wEdnyw9K8e by pyrate@poa.st
2021-12-18T13:37:22.144811Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 What do you think?
(DIR) Post #AEWushl06l6Hq0yssq by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T13:36:47.434767Z
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@amerika @sim @EmmaFaber Oh, great - litigation culture rules! Anyone with a spare few million can go to court. What are you, a corporate lawyer?In other developed nations, asbestos was simply regulated out: "This is bad shit - you can't use it anymore. Deal with it."That's what - properly functional - government does.
(DIR) Post #AEWusi8kgS6D1g5qu8 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:40:16Z
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@Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber https://www.asbestos.com/mesothelioma-lawyer/states/That was done, but the real kicker was the asbestos lawsuits, which produced such fear that companies self-regulated.Yes, I prefer litigation to permanent bureaucracy. It's more efficient and less destructive, but more damaging to actually culpable parties.
(DIR) Post #AEWuv7QzbyDu3Om1WS by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:40:41Z
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@pyrate @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 It's the classic Asiatic tyrant model, and it appeals to weak people because they like solutions that appear absolute.
(DIR) Post #AEWuwn6MBBVlZVv0nQ by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T13:38:32.250416Z
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@amerika @pyrate @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber Oh, look this is my stop. Lovely talking to you. Btw, you, uh, you've a got a bit of foam there in the corner of your.....Never mind. Have a very Merry Libertarian Xmas.
(DIR) Post #AEWuwnY0WNd4xGr5tY by pyrate@poa.st
2021-12-18T13:41:02.965941Z
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@Quellist1 @amerika @EmmaFaber @dew_the_dew @sim > Jesus Christ would you look at the time.
(DIR) Post #AEWuyq8Bt1RJXyklmq by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:41:22Z
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@pyrate @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 If good exists, it's as a goal: order, balance, harmony, and so on.Evil is the absence of this: disorder, imbalance, disorganization, and the like.We've just made evil into a value through egalitarianism.
(DIR) Post #AEWuzzAnkmiNsdWMDI by D00B@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-18T13:41:37.904026Z
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@amerika @Quellist1 @sim @EmmaFaber they used to make blue asbestos cig filters.
(DIR) Post #AEWv30Gc8xTc8og8jg by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:42:08Z
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@Quellist1 @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @EmmaFaber One observes many nasty people on the internet being nasty and wonders for what reason.
(DIR) Post #AEWv8xcgt1OBg8qTsO by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T13:43:14.305971Z
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@pyrate @amerika @dew_the_dew @sim @Quellist1
(DIR) Post #AEWvEEkocZBaG2A5RI by pyrate@poa.st
2021-12-18T13:44:12.359783Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Good example of this are the dialogues released from Epstein's case. They prance around the world acting as if they can do anything without impunity.
(DIR) Post #AEWvGJ0rl2522seiEC by TomAltihill@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-18T13:43:31.914203Z
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@D00B @amerika @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 @sim every day I'm more in favor of returning to tobacco pipes
(DIR) Post #AEWvGJsOY0tkithSfA by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:44:28Z
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@TomAltihill @D00B @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Already there:https://write.as/nicotiana/It seems silly to me to inhale smoke at all.
(DIR) Post #AEWvIz6yCvb5Bsmvmy by pyrate@poa.st
2021-12-18T13:45:03.714182Z
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@EmmaFaber @Quellist1 @amerika @dew_the_dew @sim > in Piss Earth, no one is more anarchist than a Nazi.
(DIR) Post #AEWvK35UuRdRoQbgem by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:45:10Z
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@pyrate @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 They can, since they had money and connections to the organized Left.When we hide the need to be good, people accept evil and hang out with it.
(DIR) Post #AEWvMxC7HDsmP55Vxo by D00B@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-18T13:45:46.814190Z
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@TomAltihill @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 @amerika @sim I smoke stogies man like 1 a week love it.
(DIR) Post #AEWvOI8mstXLenAWnY by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:45:58Z
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@EmmaFaber @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 Anarchists seem like mental health cases, but I like the idea of leaving people alone if they're harming no one.Again, the idea of women-only spaces seems the sane one from the spinsters.They and I both know the difficulty: most women want nothing to do with it.
(DIR) Post #AEWvPPEA1PpjvRDIFk by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:46:11Z
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@D00B @TomAltihill @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 A good cigar is a good friend.
(DIR) Post #AEWvq9U6f3k8v1QRIO by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:51:02Z
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@pyrate @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Leftists want the third world system: everyone equally poor with a warlord ruling them all.Genghis Khan was big into religious tolerance and accepting people despite their odd personal habits.Their only solution is to steal all the money and use it to fund their silly little plans.
(DIR) Post #AEWvvamsZs012pngqO by D00B@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-18T13:52:02.578626Z
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@amerika @TomAltihill @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 from top to bottom we have:macanudo inspirado naranja gigante rocky patel decadeKristoff VengencePistoff Kristoffrocky patel edge maduroand the CAO MX2 (maduro times 2)
(DIR) Post #AEWw0T3ek6rWWJyLvE by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:52:51Z
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@D00B @TomAltihill @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Some tasty looking sticks there!Are you aging these?
(DIR) Post #AEWw45KOubLy57Wt7Y by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T13:53:33.923870Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 You men see women as a target because you are predatory and the lie you men try to maintain, is that you men herding women into cages is you men protecting womenbut we don't want you men protecting us in your male protection racket All we women want is for you men to stop attacking us? So what part of that don't you porn sick control freaking nutjobs get?I know it's awkward but what part of that don't you porn sick control freaking nutjobs get?
(DIR) Post #AEWw4AgYzd3IhIw9rM by D00B@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-18T13:53:35.604868Z
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@amerika @TomAltihill @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 link me to this. The RP's are always aged. the edge is 10 years I believe and so is the decade.
(DIR) Post #AEWw5eGAWQbUi5INUW by pyrate@poa.st
2021-12-18T13:53:51.517763Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Their system will not work though. It is predicated on the fundamental belief that all people are equally capable. This is the Great Lie.
(DIR) Post #AEWw8exAOrW3jIqLKq by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:54:22Z
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@EmmaFaber @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 There's nothing to "get."You're having problems and you blame the only other party in the room, denying the individual variation in doing so.Thus you become what you detest.Very sad, really.
(DIR) Post #AEWwBzDbVl49Rw7NYW by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T13:55:00Z
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@pyrate @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 I do not believe they care.They want power so that they can retaliate against others.Beyond that? They have no concerns.I mean, look at their behavior in this thread... it's a pathology.
(DIR) Post #AEWwRxfr1Lu7IEwv2G by surya@poa.st
2021-12-18T13:57:53.138602Z
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@pyrate @Quellist1 @EmmaFaber @amerika @dew_the_dew @sim LMAO
(DIR) Post #AEWwjBcaPzsRTNdODY by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T14:00:59.484842Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 You see, I say if you men cannot control yourselves around women, then it is you men who should be locked up not women but you want a Saudi Arabia type world don't you? and you have already said it you want women to have a tiny fraction of the world, while the rest of it belongs to you men and you men will do all the policing in it and you men will protect women in it by denying them any free space.. who do you want to protect women from? it's not you and your road kill crew is it?you are only part human and is why you think that waycos you are crazee parasitic nutjobs
(DIR) Post #AEWwt9Vt6vivpZFlZo by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T14:02:48Z
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@surya @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Leftism seems to be a mental health issue and it comes to the surface when you poke it with facts.
(DIR) Post #AEWwxPaHIm6EpdL04W by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T14:03:33Z
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@D00B @TomAltihill @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 The aging drives out the ammonia flavor and brings out the natural sweetness. In my experience, almost all tobacco is aged, but the heap aging they use for cigar leaf is among the best (it has a slight fermentation effect).
(DIR) Post #AEWx06zCuAGk1JHlc8 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T14:04:01Z
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@EmmaFaber @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 > I say if you men cannot control yourselves around womenWhich men? They're different.
(DIR) Post #AEWx23H5fvsN5WZk9I by pyrate@poa.st
2021-12-18T14:04:24.852882Z
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@EmmaFaber @amerika @Quellist1 @dew_the_dew @sim You want to project that we are just a bunch of lust sick coom brains who only desire the objectification of women. I only speak for myself. I desire women who compliment me, to be my other half. Dependent on my protection (financial security...) as I am dependent on her ability to create. Explain to me this pandemic of single and lonely professional women putting off their subconscious desires to have a family thus leaving them depressed and miserable as they age and become less desirable to younger men. I blame it on this radical egalitarian idea that resolves to break apart family units and to discourage the creation of anymore stable families.
(DIR) Post #AEWx9TPqsgCyBuDEfY by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T14:05:44Z
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@pyrate @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Everything the Leftists want has turned out to be destructive, mainly because they have this superstitious pathology."All men are bad, remove men, and we have paradise!"No, you have single lonely women working go-nowhere-do-nothing jobs and owning cats and dildos.
(DIR) Post #AEWxDDLyXixRX4BPpw by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T14:06:25.584374Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 Can you prove that? when we have entire cultures of men raping and caging women in and virtually your entire male history is nothing but that?
(DIR) Post #AEWxa6u4gqNYBk3BUe by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T14:10:30Z
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@EmmaFaber @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 Yes, of course.Not all men participated. In fact, you're talking about statistically a very small group.Then we look at the bell curve...
(DIR) Post #AEWxd3cLMbvmrkA6lM by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T14:11:05.403334Z
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@pyrate @amerika @dew_the_dew @sim @Quellist1 Who says women have subconscious desires to have families? Are men putting off their subconscious desires to have families? after all men never put off their desires to have sex do they?
(DIR) Post #AEWxjOHhR9vohWWfeC by pyrate@poa.st
2021-12-18T14:12:14.811309Z
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@EmmaFaber @Quellist1 @amerika @dew_the_dew @sim You're arrogant to assume you speak for all women.
(DIR) Post #AEWxsIlvIm62D6ubOS by pyrate@poa.st
2021-12-18T14:13:51.407594Z
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@EmmaFaber @Quellist1 @amerika @dew_the_dew @sim namely basic biology states an organism will desire reproduction. Literally because Science. Most* of us rather like breathing, eating, drinking and fucking.
(DIR) Post #AEWxwzc3xi7GEnXKvQ by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T14:14:41Z
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@pyrate @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 It's the same problem of egalitarianism."All men are the same" translates to "all women are the same."Find one whore, then you assume all women are whores.
(DIR) Post #AEWxxjDAQbXBeuF6VU by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T14:14:49.791087Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 No the large majority of men are involved and were involved because if some men had not got the majority of other men's approval it would have occurred and not occur anywhere but it occurs everywhere across your entire male history and is still prevalent to day So you stupid nutcase, what you got to say now?
(DIR) Post #AEWy0DOr9uO9rktc6i by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T14:15:15Z
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@EmmaFaber @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 > No the large majority of men are involved and were involved because if some men had not got the majority of other men's approval it would have occurredThrough what mechanism, voting?
(DIR) Post #AEWy554lXDlFUtopii by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T14:16:09.271977Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 No the large majority of men are involved and were involved because if some men had not got the majority of other men's approval it would not have occurred and wouldn't occur anywherebut it occurs everywhere across your entire male history and is still prevalent to daySo you stupid nutcase, what you got to say now?
(DIR) Post #AEWyajxXa5MVGwXHUW by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T14:21:52.679946Z
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@amerika @pyrate @dew_the_dew @sim @Quellist1 to demonise women and to separate themselves from the female men invented the word whore and associated it with the word female to demolish the image of the female "she is separate to us guys, she is not one of us males, she is on the other side of our apartheid, she is a filthy dirty whore, kill her boys, demolish her, humiliate her, wound her, trash her, it's the only way we men can score"
(DIR) Post #AEWyza71KTzByIob4a by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T14:26:22.000037Z
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@pyrate @amerika @dew_the_dew @sim @Quellist1 why don't you just shut the fuck upYou are arrogant to presume you can speak on behalf of any women anywhere in the world
(DIR) Post #AEWzPOpftEOgW80qoK by pyrate@poa.st
2021-12-18T14:31:02.550327Z
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@EmmaFaber @Quellist1 @amerika @dew_the_dew @sim > just shut the fuck upYea, good talk. You don't have a counter argument, so you resolve to beat me over the head with your unhinged belief structure that all wahmen are the perpetual victims of men by their existential circumstance.
(DIR) Post #AEWzt6tFADjhYbqi6i by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T14:36:24.234934Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 now the majority of men were against women having the vote but as luck would have it.. WWI turned up and men killed off many of those men who were anti women's equal rights but that was not men's intention.. but being so very few of them leftmen had to let women have the vote because at that point many women were doing men's jobs that dead men left vacated for women and their equal rights the death of so many men was an absolute god send
(DIR) Post #AEX0EOhA9yOSrOLhXU by pyrate@poa.st
2021-12-18T14:40:15.634238Z
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@EmmaFaber @amerika @Quellist1 @dew_the_dew @sim > the death of so many men was a god send. Seek help.
(DIR) Post #AEX0tACkwKAFn9Z77Q by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T14:47:35Z
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@pyrate @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Scapegoating is addictive. Let's look at some of them:* Jews: Nazis* Nazis: Jews and Leftists* Negroes: the KKK* the KKK: Negroes and carpetgbaggers* Poors: the Rich* the Rich: the stupid (mostly poors)* Feminists: men* Incels: women* Christians: SatanistsIt's interesting how much can be seen with this.It's the eye-for-an-eye loop: blame the other side, instead of working toward an Order that helps you.
(DIR) Post #AEX0vgHQegavqox33o by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T14:48:03Z
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@pyrate @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 That's why I like the idea of "Woman Island" (for a simple term for it) or the woman-only neighborhood, society, or continent.It lets them test this theory.
(DIR) Post #AEX17EQO2zC8vweJQe by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T14:50:09.320843Z
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@pyrate @amerika @dew_the_dew @sim @Quellist1 hmm hm? in men's long history of tyranny not all men were entitled to vote but not because they were men but because they did not own land or propertybut no women were entitled to vote whether they owned land or property or not but because they were womenAll women are the perpetual victims of men by the very fact they are surrounded by men who want to deny them their equal rights and tear into them and men have a very long history of itand it doesn't matter today if those men live in other geographical places and are openly abusing women because those men are a threat to all women everywhere across the world and just because men's rights have been tamed a bit in the west, western men have still found ways to circumvent laws or remove laws entirely that would prevent them hurting women now men have it on line, on tap in every bedroom of the world they all avidly watch women being raped and butchered and women watch men watching men rape and butcher themyou men enjoy hurting women and you are all one of the same
(DIR) Post #AEX1BE3FNQ2gvzjKnA by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T14:50:51Z
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@EmmaFaber @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 So a bunch of heavily armed men, who normally would just rape these women, gave them the vote?I don't think that's consistent.Why not see democracy for the virus it is?
(DIR) Post #AEX1VmUb2EuLXkKAIS by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T14:54:35.921237Z
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@amerika @pyrate @dew_the_dew @sim @Quellist1 women don't want to live on an island women want the whole world you men go and live on an island because if you think it is good enough for women, then it should be good enough for you, shouldn't it? you are about limiting women's world to a fraction of it because you are a stupid ignoramus self important prick
(DIR) Post #AEX1dhTrYL44Jel0oy by pyrate@poa.st
2021-12-18T14:56:02.240708Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 They're proposing sending an all-female crew on the first missions to Mars. Funny, the poetic irony of how we sacrifice a group of females to a male god of war.
(DIR) Post #AEX1lEJNt1AMAORjpA by pyrate@poa.st
2021-12-18T14:57:23.949762Z
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@EmmaFaber @amerika @Quellist1 @dew_the_dew @sim You cannot have life with the other half. "Woman Island" is the experiment to prove this. In less than a generation all inhabitants would die out and the island would once again be barren.
(DIR) Post #AEX1tVmsnOZsgRC2We by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T14:58:51Z
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@EmmaFaber @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 > men's long history of tyrannyA couple questions:1. Tyranny is generally rule for the purpose of maintaining one's own power only. Are all male leaderships of this nature?2. Are all tyrannies equal, or are some better than others?In other words, would you rather be in Genghis Khan's society or our present day one?
(DIR) Post #AEX1weYQensik4vkZM by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T14:59:27.399979Z
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@amerika @pyrate @dew_the_dew @sim @Quellist1 that list is so laughable especially with you putting feminists on itWomen criticising men and pointing out all the crimes men havehappily committed against the female sex is not women being anti men or scapegoating men men are guilty of male tyranny and hatred towards the female sex and murdering millions of them in a holocaust no like otherno matter how much you cry babies curl up into little ballsand cry male victimhood, your male history is a witness to everything
(DIR) Post #AEX1x4XG3mOTJyaBM0 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T14:59:29Z
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@EmmaFaber @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 > you men go and live on an islandNo, we fought and died for these lands.Besides, the novel experiment needs to be the isolated group; we're the control group.
(DIR) Post #AEX2I601oOcvwX43bE by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T15:03:18Z
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@pyrate @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 They're doing it for political reasons. They'll all be minorities too, no doubt, whether sexual or racial.But, it's not a terrible idea in and of itself. I think same-gender crews make more sense than mixed-gender crews.I guess homosexuality might stir that up a bit. "Hello Mars Lander, we can see you clearly... OH MY GOD WHAT ARE THEY DOING?"
(DIR) Post #AEX2MCcn7aYXeJ9bHc by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T15:04:01Z
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@pyrate @dew_the_dew @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 I am of the religion of steelmanning.For the sake of keeping it interesting, let us assume not.Instead, we have a thriving community for women only (and maybe their children).Good or bad?And, will most women choose it, and are they right or wrong for choosing so?
(DIR) Post #AEX2RQgYGu4yhnPB7w by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T15:04:57Z
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@EmmaFaber @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 Emma, I enjoy your posts and your energy.However, I'm not an egalitarian. I understand the value of social class and caste, as well as individuality.I don't think it makes sense to blame all men or all women for something that clearly varies with class, caste, and individual.I say this plainly now to avoid simply bleat-repeating it at you later ;)
(DIR) Post #AEX2a2IEKZuxf08IM4 by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T15:06:34.319660Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 if you think it is good enough for women, then it is good enough for men isn't it?because if it not good enough for men then it isn't good enough for anyone is it? the only thing men ever fought for collectively were their own self interests, and their own vanityand pillaging land and raping women and girls was a male sportmen never protected women because if men wanted to protect women they would not have denied them their rights but men wanted to rape women and have them at their male mercy and that is where you want women right nowyou and your sexes problem is you ain't human and you can't think along human terms..
(DIR) Post #AEX2gxVAXkAipMUBaC by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T15:07:48Z
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@EmmaFaber @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 > the only thing men ever fought for collectively were their own self interests, and their own vanityI agree.This is true of all groups.Our self-interests include love and family.At least, for the good men.The low-IQ, insane, criminal, perverse, promiscuous, incompetent, and retarded?I have no idea, but probably not the same.
(DIR) Post #AEX3DVmIdkw2Os1MS8 by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T15:13:42.482786Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 I don't look at individuals, I look at collectives and what men have done collectively to women over the centuries and it is horrifying, like the Taliban in Afghanistan is horrifying and horrific and i am not going to let you play any of it down by saying "well you know some of the Taliban ain't so bad?"Sorry but you are a lying mother fucker trying to fill the thread with your subterfuge.. "oh not all men are like that"
(DIR) Post #AEX3ITdQ2Iq7CWEcN6 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T15:14:33Z
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@EmmaFaber @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 He's not trying to speak for all women; you are.Also, beware of Mary Daly... that's an Irish name.
(DIR) Post #AEX3QfsuNL4fVfOA2i by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T15:16:03Z
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@EmmaFaber @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 > "well you know some of the Taliban ain't so bad?"Taliban is an ideology, so they've already selected themselves.What you're doing here is like going in to a prison wing and saying, "See? All the men here are anal rapists, therefore all men are anal rapists."Or doing the same at an anal rapist convention.
(DIR) Post #AEX3i8TrJFXL7azwrA by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T15:19:14.194663Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 ALL WOMEN of the world DUE TO THE FACT MEN DO NOT KEEP IT A SECRET THEY WANT TO ABUSE THEM are suffering from PTSD and Stockholm syndrome but women never forget men are civilised
(DIR) Post #AEX3p676Va1Po7fsMi by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T15:20:28Z
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@EmmaFaber @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 And do we all have Stockholm Syndrome from democracy (as well)?
(DIR) Post #AEX4VrWccibz0x0Bgu by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T15:28:13.950803Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 Men's history of abuse is horrific and your attempts to bring in subterfuge and red herrings to deflect attention away from your sexes horrendous crimes against humanityare not going to be sufficient for us to take our focus off themMEN'S CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY committed every day
(DIR) Post #AEX5IFN7GVYUsDcxNY by EmmaFaber@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T15:36:58.423701Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 Subtefuge try to stay focused at least for one minute
(DIR) Post #AEX5Wlec2OJb36jdbM by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T15:39:35Z
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@EmmaFaber @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @Quellist1 Well, no, it's a legit question.If you think it's all Stockholm Syndrome, the question is what other varieties we are all suffering from.And then, how that influences this debate.Have modern people been sodomized by democracy, equality, socialism, and individualism?
(DIR) Post #AEX695PX1y1tKNx8y0 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T15:46:30Z
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@cowanon @dew_the_dew @pyrate @sim @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Those definitely are not helping. Dysgenics must also have played a huge role. It's basically a zombie wasteland out there.
(DIR) Post #AEXAXL1l1IoSWoeVRQ by Quellist1@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T10:59:01.954609Z
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@Clariana @amerika @EmmaFaber @sim I get that a lot 😀 Basically, it's what happens when you maintain an unattractive allegiance to facts. All stripes of ideology get huffy with your ass sooner or later.
(DIR) Post #AEXAkYvkdjEpPe9HvM by Clariana@spinster.xyz
2021-12-18T16:38:07.536022Z
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@sim @amerika A shitposter is asking moi about a thread devolving... Will wonders never cease?
(DIR) Post #AEXBLglkSV2qRFAnvk by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-18T16:44:50.116285Z
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@Clariana @amerika Funny, I thought somebody from spinster would be less inclined to make assumptions based on instance names given the reputation that it has on the fediverse. Such wonders spinster keeps bringing as this isn't the first time somebody from there has pointed out the obvious.
(DIR) Post #AEXPxd7RsORhTrJEpM by likho@writing.exchange
2021-12-18T19:28:33Z
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@sim @amerika ..?If someone takes on debt they can't pay, they get foreclosed and their stuff seized.How do you seize anything from a country with nukes and a big military?
(DIR) Post #AEXgHZq5NbA4Mkimtk by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-18T22:31:25Z
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@likho @sim You ruin the value of its currency. This is what the Left are hoping to do.
(DIR) Post #AEY1oXp9zRiai6qkXA by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-19T02:32:42.657259Z
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@likho @amerika Well, I assume it would come from within so you don't need to worry about nukes so much. I suppose you could also devalue the currency rate, make their currency mean so little they can't trade. That would create an internal crisis. Although they might decide to nuke you... but if wealthy countries all agreed to it then it is just another part of the worldwide currency rate. Investors could also decide that a country in debt is a bad risk and avoid investing there. Which plays into the current model. The economy means a lot to governments, they are obsessed with it.
(DIR) Post #AEY2q9wdqN9tBQgPlA by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T02:44:10Z
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@sim @likho When the economy goes bad, the voters panic.Therefore, as Clinton said, the economy is job one.On top of that they graft the graft.
(DIR) Post #AEY3G6S7RzmbshmG4O by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-19T02:48:52.693389Z
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@Quellist1 @EmmaFaber @amerika Thanks. Yes, I'd like to see more decisions devolved to the local level as I think people there know better what the local community needs rather than at a national level. I still need to figure out how I would do things. Holding government to account would be a good start.
(DIR) Post #AEY3WK5uUxlWp97j7Y by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-19T02:51:49.126049Z
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@amerika @likho In that case, they really would have to do something if their currency went down. If we're talking government debts, the currency rate is the best bet to use. Especially with a sudden spike.
(DIR) Post #AEY4RgNwIJ6GSouKv2 by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-19T03:02:11.630366Z
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@Quellist1 @EmmaFaber @amerika I'm not sure now. Haven't we moved on from the industrial era? I think a lot of that has been outsourced to other countries. Workers in the US have better pay and working conditions now that was hard earned. I don't think we want the industrial era back again. I think the US is more about the office environment and technology, right? I think you would need a mixture for things to be well. Otherwise, imagine losing all the small towns and villages to urbanisation and creating cities. Where are you getting your food sources from? Urbanisation is actually bad for mental health. It has been a disaster. It has probably triggered a lot of people to commit suicide and feel isolated. We're just not built for this sort of lifestyle.
(DIR) Post #AEY4giALxI0iKZie8W by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-19T03:04:54.637841Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 Makes me wonder how we resolve this so that we can move on.
(DIR) Post #AEY4oFDLTst4r5i88W by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T03:06:14Z
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@sim @dew_the_dew @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 I think it begins with the final end to the American Civil War.I want to elaborate, but it's time for me to head off into the void.
(DIR) Post #AEY8art7IPHMYv7sjg by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-19T03:48:40.491926Z
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@amerika @dew_the_dew @EmmaFaber @Quellist1 No problem. Maybe we can start another thread to better discuss this.
(DIR) Post #AEYio7aBqpuPLwtNs8 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T10:34:26Z
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@sim In my view, modernism is not the industrial era but the individualist era, and industrialism just means technology after the internal combustion engine (or its earlier steam-driven equivalent).
(DIR) Post #AEYj0IbMi0SN0EFU1Y by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T10:36:37Z
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@sim @dew_the_dew Adding to this:The French Revolution and American Revolution were at odds.The French wanted total equality; the Americans wanted to limit what they saw as inevitable, the rise of the Republic.Abraham Lincoln wanted the French method, and to apply it using the at that time new socialist ideal of government-enforced equality.We fought WWI to remove aristocracy, WW2 to remove non-democracy, and now have market socialism and civil rights.
(DIR) Post #AEYjUospFccHoGy8um by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-19T10:42:09.826550Z
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@amerika Yeah, I had a sense that we'd already moved on from that era. Although maybe it was meant how you said it than what I imagined hearing industrialism. But then I read a book or two from the 1800's on what life was like for people back then. I would not like to be working class/poor back then.
(DIR) Post #AEYkIS5eGmAnb5dKb2 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T10:51:06Z
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@sim I wonder how much of it is true.I used to read books written for academia or mass consumption and take them literally.Now I see cherry-picking everywhere: "this one incident was bad, so assume that this was the norm."Somehow everyone survived.
(DIR) Post #AEYl8bG3QeUN5aMnAW by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-19T11:00:33.483158Z
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@amerika Oh, no doubt what I read was cherry-picked. But at least one of them pointed to other sources from people within my country at the time when discussing what life was like for the working class. I suppose it is worth considering that we survived because we had lots of children back then to keep us going as a species. I don't doubt that children were hit around a lot to keep them awake or expected to work long hours. This is documented stuff.
(DIR) Post #AEYlL3retdHHHltixk by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T11:02:47Z
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@sim Maybe it's documented, but was it being true everywhere documented?They always take the worst case scenario as the norm. That's why I'm skeptical.As far as the industrial revolution itself, the problem seems to have been that the machines could do a lot, but not the whole thing, so we needed labor.Generally, I see labor as having low-quality results across the board. Every job I've had, most of the people have been useless.
(DIR) Post #AEYnI1XnGbkx82HlGC by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-19T11:24:40.060600Z
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@amerika Good point. Who can say? Especially at this point. Can only say that there were reports in different areas looked at but not everywhere. That's true. Thing is, you can't treat people like machines because they aren't. Yet we still have this ridiculous notion that we can do this, especially through targets and productivity. There is less training now too, if there is any offered then it is usually through online courses or something. I get the feeling that the way we work has changed and it treats us as disposable machines.
(DIR) Post #AEYnbZKDtT3BOvG2NM by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T11:28:11Z
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@sim In my experience, low-quality labor is always treated badly, but this has more to do with the labor itself than the masters.It's not a nice realization, but nothing about the bell curve is nice. It's just consistent.We should ask, what are jobs there for?My cynical view: to create economic activity that seems justified as necessary, so that it can be taxed, so that we can keep the Keynesian circular ponzi scheme going.Jobs are jails because they're not necessary.
(DIR) Post #AEYoy580QonIMRqGpM by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-19T11:43:28.648267Z
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@amerika It's hard to know what the answer is. Depending on the lifestyle that we want, some jobs are going to be necessary to sustain that. But as you've pointed out to me, so many are not necessary, in fact they are downright wasteful. (Looking at you, China!)
(DIR) Post #AEYqI8vs64HvuDIQIy by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T11:58:16Z
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@sim It's basically like school. There is real stuff to do, but only about ten percent of the students can do it, so you need some way to keep the rest occupied.Most jobs are mostly make-work because we have politicized our economic system. Remove that, and there are fewer jobs, but people can buy a lot more with what they have, making homesteading possible.
(DIR) Post #AEYtSwXenx8MWboNcm by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-19T12:33:52.456022Z
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@amerika Management is perhaps the worst culprit for politicising the economic system. No wonder managers are dropped so easily when things begin to fail. Probably there because the university expanded and they needed roles for these students to take on after education. That and socialism.
(DIR) Post #AEYvIvlV2OIJ81diqW by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T12:54:27Z
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@sim I agree. When we create layers of rules, we create layers of managers. The more we try to improve the system, the more we make it moribund.
(DIR) Post #AEZ3vL5e7ySUJGt9lI by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-19T14:31:03.615820Z
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@amerika Yep. Then the round of layoffs happen and the cycle repeats itself.
(DIR) Post #AEZ5Wi6NdInuLfcElc by verl@social.verl.xyz
2021-12-19T14:43:43.268006Z
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@sim @amerika every entity eventually gets bloated by useless middle men managers. compare the early imperial period of rome to the late. the former was built around great amibition of the julio-claudians, who were tired of the bureucratic red tape of the senate. the latter itself was bureaucratic and devoid of passion. you see it today with how the elite put in a senile man as President. Just as Roman generals fought each other to put their figure head in power, so too do the elite do the same for the same goal: nothing more than prestige and power. no ambition. the power is now an end, not a means to an end. no more passion to act, but just to hold. that spells the death of an empire.
(DIR) Post #AEZ5axoRABJcETFdS4 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T14:49:43Z
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@sim In addition to @verl interesting comment, I'll add this:Committees are the problem because they try to represent many different interests through compromise.The more different interests and external demands you have, the more managers you have to balance all of the neurotic "needs."
(DIR) Post #AEZ5mTadM8WJyQHh44 by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-19T14:51:52.113224Z
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@verl @amerika Those are some good comparisons. I did wonder why anyone thought it would be a good idea to have senile Biden in power. Also a good image that explains what happens. Makes me wonder how a business can avoid that.
(DIR) Post #AEZ5scqPrQWoPhbB3o by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T14:52:07Z
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@verl @sim Why do I like this comment? Well, for starters, we're talking ends-over-means versus means-over-ends, a concept that does not get talked about enough.When the ends (goals) consist of maintaining power, you have a tyranny, no matter how soft its methods.These have basically become a loop: the ends have become the means, since civilization itself is not an end but a result of sanity, culture, and a few other things.
(DIR) Post #AEZ5ueek603cbz6dMG by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T14:53:18Z
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@sim @verl Biden is almost certainly a figurehead, sort of like a ceremonial CEO, to a large political machine.Tammany Hall is the key to American politics.
(DIR) Post #AEZ6n4p11p2xOtrTnc by verl@social.verl.xyz
2021-12-19T14:54:48.884896Z
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@amerika @sim He also doubles as a form of psychological warfare, a way for the elite to say "we can do whatever the fuck we want. we put a fucking dementia ridden skeleton in as president and you cant do shit."
(DIR) Post #AEZ6n5bw5wB7qckY3E by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T15:03:08Z
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@verl @sim "We'll do something horrible and make you support it to remind you that you are cucked and subjugated."
(DIR) Post #AEZ6rot5hOzpQg1sy8 by verl@social.verl.xyz
2021-12-19T14:53:36.795338Z
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@sim @amerika That's the great question, how to minimse bloat. There have been some who have taken a good guess: Ataturk selflessly removed his dictatorial powers after 'modernising' Turkey so as to not create a regime of autocracy, and hell even Pleroma itself represents an attempt to fight back against the bloat of centralised platforms.
(DIR) Post #AEZ6rpNDtN6Cw87ww4 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T15:03:57Z
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@verl @sim Ultimately, I don't believe in systems; I believe in people.Although I hate humanity generally and worship death, there are good people out there.As long as they have the power, all is good.When we rely on systems... well, that bad love those, since they can manipulate them easily.
(DIR) Post #AEZ7hFKz7PYwENbB3I by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-19T15:13:20.032718Z
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@verl @amerika Somebody actually removing dictatorial powers? Not sure if I should be impressed or not... haha. Decentralised software is an interesting attempt. I would actually say that the fediverse has succeeded so far, what we see now is following on from GNU/Social and what came before it. Standing on the shoulders of giants.
(DIR) Post #AEZ7nqRA60WZ1ydNxo by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-19T15:14:31.333829Z
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@verl @amerika Yeah. I'm actually disturbed that this is a possibility. Maybe I shouldn't be but there you go.
(DIR) Post #AEZ88HjkJ1DdUW4cKm by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-19T15:18:13.209174Z
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@amerika @verl I'm not even from the US, and even I feel insulted by this. When I'm not laughing at them for their incompetence.
(DIR) Post #AEZ8TRrDsAlcxdf78i by verl@social.verl.xyz
2021-12-19T15:15:11.705172Z
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@sim @amerika Yes, Ataturk was one of those rare types of men who didn't let his ego control him.
(DIR) Post #AEZ8TSKI861GPnGKRs by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-19T15:21:57.973940Z
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@verl @amerika Yeah. Seems like one of those rare types people hope for when it comes to bringing in their political utopias.
(DIR) Post #AEZ8dMhDuvBtqiiJRA by verl@social.verl.xyz
2021-12-19T15:15:59.516345Z
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@sim @amerika It really amounts to how much power you believe the President has, i.e how powerful is the deep state.
(DIR) Post #AEZ8dN6kO1bj7sehDk by sim@shitposter.club
2021-12-19T15:23:49.983590Z
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@verl @amerika Yeah. It also just seems to be a part of the system in the US. Tends to end up with old men leading, whether they can or not. Biden doesn't seem to know when to step down.
(DIR) Post #AEZKyiguXC5Zb3W5wG by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T17:42:07Z
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@sim @verl Our big question is: what is success?Do we want it to be as big as Facebook, or remain "our thing" for those who walk away from the normienet?
(DIR) Post #AEZL7AVgzIT0C0IXCa by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T17:43:35Z
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@sim @verl Also, despite the Right-wing jizzing over this: Biden is getting the Dan Quayle treatment, and probably is not as incoherent or incontinent as reported.
(DIR) Post #AEZL8BSgw2V3QwNWls by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T17:43:09Z
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@sim @verl Biden is a careerist. He spent decades waiting for his chance, and now he's next in line, so to keep the gang/cult together, they are using him for now.Dunno how long he'll last. Pelosi or Hillary could have him whacked.
(DIR) Post #AEZLAAqMClVy5xOfEe by Federale@poa.st
2021-12-19T17:44:13.588199Z
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@amerika @sim @verl Maybe...
(DIR) Post #AEZLBDeDGTQF57DNpY by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T17:44:23Z
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@sim @verl Put anyone on a microphone for an hour a day and they'll say something that sounds kind of dumb and terrible. He hasn't had voice acting classes like other candidates, and seems to get a little foggy sometimes, but it's also all over-reported.
(DIR) Post #AEZLDjsSPFVbcT4xgu by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T17:44:50Z
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@verl @sim In my view, the president has little power EXCEPT for the vast amount of indirect influence he wields through prestige.
(DIR) Post #AEZLRpJF0UeeWLKB8q by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T17:47:23Z
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@sim @verl Democracy is nothing but humiliation. Well, that and low grade background anxiety that never lessens. Like having a headache at all times.
(DIR) Post #AEZLWlEBbqQnJHJSkK by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T17:48:14Z
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@verl @sim I agree there was some hubris -- or megalomania, narcissism, egomania, or solipsism -- there.He was not a sociopath like Stalin and Lenin.
(DIR) Post #AEZLetfa6foRoC0SQ4 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-12-19T17:49:45Z
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@Eris @sim @verl Yep. I always figured that this one came straight from Beijing.
(DIR) Post #AEZLkoqwvZyGbj9Dai by tinfoilhat@area51.tinfoil-hat.net
2021-12-19T17:50:50.181570Z
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@Eris @amerika @sim @verl He's a Lizardman now
(DIR) Post #AEZQl9FJbfX5csWLke by Alex1488@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-19T18:45:52.503562Z
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@Eris @amerika @sim @verl bUt ErIs, iT's juSt A vIsUAl gLitCH!