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 (DIR) Post #AESsDHtBGT2WDO3QJs by nekojanai@fedi.nekojanai.xyz
       2021-12-16T14:50:27.426075Z
       
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       So as long as the server itself is not open-source the entire Telegram eco-system cannot be considered open-source, even though there is an open API and official open-source clients.Same eith other services that claim that they are "open source".If critical infrastructure used to make your product work isn't open source, your product isn't open source.
       
 (DIR) Post #AESsDIGDsnTHMqppEe by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2021-12-16T14:51:33.142003Z
       
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       @nekojanai seem to recall mtproto having questionable security designotherwise.. i dunno. i guess you could implement the backend somehow
       
 (DIR) Post #AESsVZbK9OYiMOQAvQ by a1ba@expired.mentality.rip
       2021-12-16T14:54:52.430637Z
       
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       @icedquinn @nekojanai if only mtproto wasn't undocumented fucked up protocol
       
 (DIR) Post #AEStEbOmJVTsy01Zzs by cyastis@mastodon.social
       2021-12-16T14:58:58Z
       
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       @nekojanai It's just like how Richard Stallman was saying the entire stack needs to be free software for something on top to be truly "free"Both the clients and the servers need to run open source software for it to be really open source.. that said, I think having open source clients could facilitate the creation of independent open source servers in the future - without proprietary anti-spam features for example
       
 (DIR) Post #AEStEbp0jySsHMIWsy by nekojanai@fedi.nekojanai.xyz
       2021-12-16T15:00:27.171519Z
       
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       @cyastis "in the future" how long has telegram been out there now? Where is my fully functional open source server?
       
 (DIR) Post #AEStEcAzQG2tNWa58y by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
       2021-12-16T15:02:57Z
       
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       @nekojanai @cyastis im the future, as in, when the official servers become unavailable or unbearable
       
 (DIR) Post #AEStJnmJiJdWoFVvOK by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
       2021-12-16T15:03:55Z
       
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       @nekojanai at least they ship a source tarball that distros can package. It's better than nothing.
       
 (DIR) Post #AESu19bcR4F2xTBKu8 by cyastis@mastodon.social
       2021-12-16T15:11:42Z
       
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       @wolf480pl @nekojanai Theoretically an unofficial open server could always be created given our understanding of the open APIThat said, I think it practically makes sense to avoid unnecessary effort and stick to open standards like ActivityPub, XMPP, Revolt and Matrix and all