Post AECWU8LVPluprVXAzA by cantinto@outerheaven.club
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 (DIR) Post #AECSLoxdCjfFbh9E36 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2021-12-08T16:46:19.809517Z
       
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       @xjix Also: You can quite easily learn to repair it or even build your own.
       
 (DIR) Post #AECSS5Btm3cTgIo69g by Stellar@mk.absturztau.be
       2021-12-08T16:47:31.504Z
       
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       @xjix@mk.toast.cafe bikers are ultimate assholes
       
 (DIR) Post #AECSvCyXuU24DsRw4u by Stellar@mk.absturztau.be
       2021-12-08T16:52:47.024Z
       
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       @xjix@mk.toast.cafe you're right
       
 (DIR) Post #AECTAcU7LjjNgLZ8NM by eris@rats-at.work
       2021-12-08T16:54:59.694692Z
       
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       @Stellar @xjix good, fuck car drivers
       
 (DIR) Post #AECTjSxCmEQsG3mrb6 by vorpuni@mastodon.tedomum.net
       2021-12-08T17:01:52Z
       
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       @xjixBecause it's the freedom to not freeze your ass or get wet, and the freedom to do cross-continental travel for cheap with your friends and/or family. Bikes are great for urban plebs
       
 (DIR) Post #AECUXvduO3C5iJp8Qy by otyugh@pouet.chapril.org
       2021-12-08T17:10:58Z
       
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       @xjix Ivan Illich wrote a lenghty book and made speeches on this, comparing how cars couldn't even hold a candle to plain ol' walking (considering how much time the average person must work to pay and maintain a car ; making the whole "speed" in cars an illusion).Meanwhile there are modern velomobile that can go for the average user to 35km/h on flat roads. I wonder if I'll see they day when I'll consider buying one without looking like a fool. https://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/09/the-velomobile-high-tech-bike-or-low-tech-car.html
       
 (DIR) Post #AECUmKyL0d8mKHFYky by otyugh@pouet.chapril.org
       2021-12-08T17:13:34Z
       
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       @xjix Ivan Illich wrote a lenghty book and made speeches on this, comparing how cars couldn't even hold a candle to plain ol' walking (considering how much time the average person must work to pay and maintain a car ; making the whole "speed" in cars an illusion).Meanwhile there are modern velomobile that can go for the average user to 35km/h on flat roads. I wonder if it'll ever be a regular thing to witness one day. Sanity say yes, my whole life says "not a chance".https://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/09/the-velomobile-high-tech-bike-or-low-tech-car.html
       
 (DIR) Post #AECVleEjzxkVjr9pXE by why@shitposter.club
       2021-12-08T17:24:41.356631Z
       
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       @xjix with a car, you can go anywhere you want
       
 (DIR) Post #AECVvnADf8sCJysbJY by lain@lain.com
       2021-12-08T17:26:28.659915Z
       
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       @xjix because it's better
       
 (DIR) Post #AECW4bIb94008500B6 by 11backslashes@social.unx.pw
       2021-12-08T17:27:19.816669Z
       
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       @Stellar @xjix cagers can eat my u-lock.
       
 (DIR) Post #AECWU8LVPluprVXAzA by cantinto@outerheaven.club
       2021-12-08T17:32:43.049824Z
       
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       @xjix bike can't get you across the state in 2 hours. Cars can.But high speed rail could do it better.
       
 (DIR) Post #AECWjPpigBm6RRxB3Y by diresock@freespeechextremist.com
       2021-12-08T17:35:29.751929Z
       
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       @xjix Because the only way your determination and breakfast can move you at 60mph is off a cliff.
       
 (DIR) Post #AECWxsKBXuX2rP69wG by Abraxas@poa.st
       2021-12-08T17:29:08.105517Z
       
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       @xjix cope seethe dilate
       
 (DIR) Post #AECYbTvtkkSEkSBik4 by lain@lain.com
       2021-12-08T17:56:23.946013Z
       
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       @xjix i think of airplanes as fish that swim in the air and they are also machines
       
 (DIR) Post #AECYkISjlj97mPkejQ by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
       2021-12-08T17:58:02.193832Z
       
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       @xjix @lain Well, car is short for horse-less carriage.
       
 (DIR) Post #AECZ4LcHkgLvLymKga by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
       2021-12-08T18:01:04.599364Z
       
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       @xjix @lain Bicycles didn't lead to planes. Garage goobers making bicycles funded their pet project to make a plane as a fun side project.
       
 (DIR) Post #AECZ5h9p9HUuS26mzA by hj@shigusegubu.club
       2021-12-08T18:01:54.349779Z
       
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       @thendrix @lain @xjix my other horse-less carriage is a horse-less cdrriage
       
 (DIR) Post #AECZL4ZeMvPbQ6WN3A by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
       2021-12-08T18:03:56.609245Z
       
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       @xjix @lain That's still not a direct iteration of design.. I own quite a lot of tech & civ focused history books if you want to barrow them. Swords didn't beget firearms either.
       
 (DIR) Post #AECZQPDR3DJgt3fnsW by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
       2021-12-08T18:05:38.989603Z
       
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       @xjix @lain Yeah, I think that's the difference.
       
 (DIR) Post #AECZjY62FzgxvqL9do by Hyolobrika@fedi.club
       2021-12-08T18:09:06.531185Z
       
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       @xjix can't go as far. then again electric bicycles exist
       
 (DIR) Post #AECc6njMUkRQzPwxrU by cereal@shitposter.club
       2021-12-08T18:35:44.580058Z
       
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       @schnappi @xjix have fun working an hour a day just to get to work faster, lel
       
 (DIR) Post #AECcGRKYdHvCPewbDs by cereal@shitposter.club
       2021-12-08T18:37:29.108521Z
       
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       @schnappi @xjix are you 8 and afraid of the dark? smh car cucks
       
 (DIR) Post #AECcQNsCLGqaaNQABE by cereal@shitposter.club
       2021-12-08T18:39:16.923564Z
       
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       @schnappi @xjix sounds like merrifat is afraid of using body to propel
       
 (DIR) Post #AECcXLV5Yv35Fnvo8W by cereal@shitposter.club
       2021-12-08T18:40:32.432466Z
       
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       @schnappi @xjix I don't even live in a city, urbancuck
       
 (DIR) Post #AECcanN0OrjoYhnNFQ by cereal@shitposter.club
       2021-12-08T18:41:09.778146Z
       
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       @schnappi @xjix so you just roll downhill, fatass?
       
 (DIR) Post #AECd4UXywpPMrs5dS4 by cereal@shitposter.club
       2021-12-08T18:46:31.836711Z
       
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       @schnappi @xjix you're the one living on a mountain so you need a car to get to work.
       
 (DIR) Post #AECdZmattoSNoiNMLA by cereal@shitposter.club
       2021-12-08T18:52:11.147453Z
       
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       @schnappi @xjix > implying none of these exist in flat rural areasTruly a deluded merrifat. As if sun or anything else touched those balls in a decade.
       
 (DIR) Post #AECeC1VYtjzd4l74hE by cereal@shitposter.club
       2021-12-08T18:59:05.809930Z
       
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       @schnappi @xjix which is why you're busy sperging so hard at the thought of people using a bike you fail to type properly. Sad case of sad cuck.
       
 (DIR) Post #AECeGTHbZcp6NOhpGC by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
       2021-12-08T18:59:52Z
       
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       @xjix bikes can't carry big heavy items
       
 (DIR) Post #AECnE3E4NhCoZPyO3M by lelouchebag@shitposter.club
       2021-12-08T20:40:18.541846Z
       
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       @xjix The only thing is winter
       
 (DIR) Post #AED00ZV0tMVi0vnjFY by wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org
       2021-12-08T17:06:42Z
       
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       @xjix Downside: wheelchair users can't cycle. (Though if roads didn't take up so much space, maybe they wouldn't need to as much.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AED00ZuXMSvXI5k728 by klardotsh@merveilles.town
       2021-12-08T17:31:38Z
       
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       @wizzwizz4 @xjix sure they can! multiple options.https://www.freedomconcepts.com/product-lines/adaptive-bikes/ (including some handbikes)https://www.mobilityaccess.com/duetand others in similar styles. American roads are shit for them, but American roads are shit for everyone regardless with little meaningful change in sight in most areas.
       
 (DIR) Post #AED00aKlmvuWbS13vE by wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org
       2021-12-08T17:36:17Z
       
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       @klardotsh @xjix Hm, true. There are other mobility issues that render self-powered vehicles difficult for some people, but this would work for most. And electric vehicles are getting better.
       
 (DIR) Post #AEEBun7yha919Vzr28 by csepp@merveilles.town
       2021-12-09T02:50:34Z
       
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       @xjix @Hyolobrika Plus an e-bike with no battery can still be a functional bike. A car with no engine is just a metal box on wheels.Although that box could come in handy in extreme weather. Hmm. Is there something like a snow-velomobile?
       
 (DIR) Post #AEK0sUmdmzGN1rImG0 by clacke@libranet.de
       2021-12-12T08:15:26Z
       
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       @wolf480pl @xjix Cargo bikes are available. For the really difficult stuff there is taxi, which is cheaper than owning if used infrequently.
       
 (DIR) Post #AEK1B2hmPMgVRns8LA by amolith@mk.nixnet.social
       2021-12-12T08:13:58.066Z
       
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       @xjix@mk.toast.cafe why is the automobile considered thebultinate symbol of freedom again?big engine go brrrrrrrtoxic gasses go whoosh
       
 (DIR) Post #AEK1B37er9Nuk3yng0 by amolith@mk.nixnet.social
       2021-12-12T08:17:40.706Z
       
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       @xjix@mk.toast.cafe but more seriously there are some situations where large vehicles are more suitable. For example, there's no way I'm going to ride a bike 3 hours to a gig with my double bass and amp on my back or ride a bike an hour down the mountain pulling a truckload of wood behind me to keep my house warm for the next couple weeks ​:shibalaugh:​
       
 (DIR) Post #AEK1FePa9s43YBYdgO by GNUxeava@mk.absturztau.be
       2021-12-12T08:20:24.613Z
       
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       @amolith@mk.nixnet.social @xjix@mk.toast.cafe excess of anything is bad. You just need to find a balance and most of the time things will work fine.
       
 (DIR) Post #AEK2L2ySMYSH8E0U5o by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
       2021-12-12T08:32:35Z
       
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       @clacke @xjix if you live in a city that might work, but in the countryside, where you need to get a car-trunk-ful of groceries from a shop 10km away every week, I don't think that's an option
       
 (DIR) Post #AEKD66ApHexICsrpfE by clacke@libranet.de
       2021-12-12T10:32:02Z
       
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       @wolf480pl @xjix Correct. So that's something that needs to be taken into consideration when making the lifestyle choice of living in the countryside. Perhaps it's the only serious choice available for whatever reason.But we need to be honest: All else being equal it is a choice that has negative repercussions on the environment.
       
 (DIR) Post #AEKPkRobRIH2MOTkYq by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2021-12-12T12:54:55.414183Z
       
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       @xjixWith a car, you can go anywhere…