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(DIR) Post #AE1wfI24HfJzTU5MWG by freemo@qoto.org
2021-12-03T15:03:57Z
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I will never not share this classic set of facts.#racism #equality
(DIR) Post #AE1zzCYkdona9fYipM by cnx@nixnet.social
2021-12-03T15:40:13.447272Z
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lol @freemo reminds me of this skit
(DIR) Post #AE204fGjKOoMdwjcIq by freemo@qoto.org
2021-12-03T15:41:39Z
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@cnx lolol perfect
(DIR) Post #AE21yRBuxHgN9YdsZc by xarvos@nixnet.social
2021-12-03T16:03:43.633281Z
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@freemo irrelevant but I wonder why all these left-wing people wear glasses and the others (along with Mudasir and the employees) don't
(DIR) Post #AE223aVRkXqdUVETnk by freemo@qoto.org
2021-12-03T16:04:35Z
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@xarvos cause they're woke
(DIR) Post #AE27M6kb6WHCTiyBCi by kazcynski_stan@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-03T17:04:02.466391Z
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@freemo right wing racism column but unironically, except for the anti-Muslim panel.
(DIR) Post #AE2ELu68qT32usteFM by b6hydra@qoto.org
2021-12-03T18:22:20Z
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@freemo At least you know where the white supremacists stand, even if they're irreconcilably stupid. I've always been a little baffled by the American left's brand of tolerance. Criticism of religious beliefs, for example, is impossible under the guise of tolerance, regardless of how intolerant or harmful the belief itself is. Sorry but a shitty idea is still shitty regardless of it's packaging.
(DIR) Post #AE2ErtWyUPmAQLhZse by freemo@qoto.org
2021-12-03T18:28:04Z
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@b6hydra I generally have no problem with someone criticising a religious idea. The issue is when you assume all members of a religion have the same interpritation as you. There is a huge gap between the words you might be able to quote out of a religious book and the views of a follower of a religion.
(DIR) Post #AE2HLKmqQnvdGNI4qu by b6hydra@qoto.org
2021-12-03T18:55:34Z
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@freemo Sure, I agree with that. I'm referring to the more general notion that religion is above repudiation in the name of tolerance. I'll give a more concrete example. I am against both male and female circumcision. To me, they're both genital mutilation (although one is obviously worse than the other). Yet, there are religions that promote both these acts. It's not a topic that comes up often of course but I've had people ask, what about Judaism or Islam? Isn't male circumcision part of their religion? The implication being that the practice is beyond reproach because it is religious in nature. It's those kinds of mental gymnastics that don't compute for me, whereby 'the left' approves of actions they would otherwise find objectionable, just because it's part of someone's religious beliefs.
(DIR) Post #AE2IXBgoBGrUTegPfU by schratze@todon.nl
2021-12-03T19:08:59Z
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@freemo @lethe what the fuck is this garbage
(DIR) Post #AE2IzMgss7xWhn9dpY by freemo@qoto.org
2021-12-03T19:14:11Z
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@schratze Facts mostly :) The only people I've seen complain about this meme in the past are the people it represents perfectly :)@lethe
(DIR) Post #AE2Jk4W2GQ29wmLrzE by timorl@qoto.org
2021-12-03T19:22:47Z
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@schratze @freemo Lack of understanding of the SJW position, as far as I can tell.
(DIR) Post #AE2JpDrKx5cKNDlsye by freemo@qoto.org
2021-12-03T19:23:40Z
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@timorl The right wingers would say the same just that it misrepresents them... funny that :)@schratze
(DIR) Post #AE2KCJUUBGCwV25rAe by ACMqpJGUPbUOBNBlVA.vance@feed.vance.land
2021-12-03T19:27:55Z
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@freemowhere the leftist islamophobe representation 😡? i feel oppressed.
(DIR) Post #AE2KGkjuoOwyAWQYts by schratze@todon.nl
2021-12-03T19:28:39Z
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@freemo @vance why are you boosting this nonsense
(DIR) Post #AE2KNZwHMnBAhMSuOm by ACMqpJGUPbUOBNBlVA.vance@feed.vance.land
2021-12-03T19:29:57Z
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@schratze in the future reality and satire will be indistinguishable. i swear it was ironically.
(DIR) Post #AE2KPnpegPsUMmQZEW by freemo@qoto.org
2021-12-03T19:30:17Z
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@schratze Because its correct (albeit somewhat exaggerated to make a point.. The hope would be the people who exist on either of the right or left spectrum might learn something and modify their behavior (though I dont have high hopes for that)@vance
(DIR) Post #AE2KU2fTSx0JXMgeNU by schratze@todon.nl
2021-12-03T19:31:04Z
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@vance I hope
(DIR) Post #AE2Knj2MAAD6Rcm9QG by timorl@qoto.org
2021-12-03T19:34:38Z
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@freemo I don't think the actually racist ones would, e.g. the first panel is literally the policy they favour. The third is literally the image they want to build of muslims (and that's true even for the not farthest right ones, see e.g. the official polish government's press conference that contained literal bestiality). Not sure about second and fourth. @schratze
(DIR) Post #AE2L0Dl7lTuxCbfpey by freemo@qoto.org
2021-12-03T19:36:35Z
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@timorl I've also seen the most extreme literal racists on the left say things that are pretty much identical to the left-wing side too.. I've litrally heard people on the left who were white say they would only date minorities, for example.@schratze
(DIR) Post #AE2Lwp8ow8XNw9hYTw by timorl@qoto.org
2021-12-03T19:47:27Z
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@freemo They definitely don't want to make this a national policy, so the comic is presenting a moderate version of a far-right position, and equating it to a extreme version of a left position. And I'm pretty sure that's the closest of the panels to the truth, the others also seem to do at least that (downplaying the right position while making an exaggerated caricature of the left).@schratze
(DIR) Post #AE2M2rfMSin7VNnp7w by freemo@qoto.org
2021-12-03T19:48:29Z
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@timorl There doesnt appear to be anything moderate about the right position to me.. both sides seem pretty extreme in this comic@schratze
(DIR) Post #AE2PhewYy8LpmYzbay by timorl@qoto.org
2021-12-03T20:29:32Z
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@freemo Moderate compared to actual positions, not absolutely. By panels:1. Actual far-right position: People of other races should not be in my country at all, but if they have to they definitely shouldn't date whites.Presented position: Personal choice to only date whites.Actual far-left position: ??? Anybody can date whomever they want? Is this even a position at this point? I guess in countries without legal gay marriage it is, but not really related to race.Presented position: Personal choice to only date non-whites.2. Actual far-right position: People of other races should not be in my country at all, but if they have to I definitely wouldn't hire them because they are too stupid. (Latter might not apply to all races depending on the specific type of far-right you stumble upon.)Presented position: Not employing non-whites. Reasoning missing.Actual far-left (or rather far-progressive, but I assume we are treating these as synonymous in this case) position: In an environment of systemic racism and sexism people of color and women have lower chances of getting employed and this is a self-reinforcing problem, using quotas might help solve it.Presented position: Some quip about colourful candy I assume. It sorta satirizes an argument I have actually seen, about diversity of perspectives bringing strength to companies (which as far as I can tell is a good argument, I have examples, but if you satirize it like that it only looks silly). Note that this panel has an unflattering satire of a (not the main) reasoning, while the other omitts any reasoning.3. Actual far-right position: Yeah, this one is pretty accurate.Actual far-left position: Islam is not inherently more violent than any other religion.Presented position: Disregard any violence of muslims, also be condescending to them and assume they will commit violence because they are muslims.4. Actual far-right position: People of other races should not be in my country at all. (I havent seen contemporary racists advocate for separate facilities for different races, but it might just be blissful ignorance. <_<)Presented position: Separate facilities for whites and non-whites.Actual far-left position: ??? No idea what could be related to the picture. The closest I can think of is unisex bathrooms, but that is the exact opposite of the picture.Presented position: Separate facilities for whites and non-whites.5. Actual far-right position: black people are inferior to whites, at the very least mentally.Presented position: Extreme dislike for black people because of their skin colour.Actual far-left position: White people should be aware of the systemic privilege they have over other people.Presented position: Extreme dislike for white people because of their skin colour.I don't fully agree with the far-left positions presented above, but they are clearly not equivalent to the far-right ones, unless you simplify them beyond recognition and soften the far-right ones.Bleh, now I clearly spent too much time analyzing a shitty comic. ~.~@schratze
(DIR) Post #AE2Q5qdd8kTr0DffKy by freemo@qoto.org
2021-12-03T20:33:49Z
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@timorl I mean there are more extreme versions of the left too. I still maintain you are just viewing it that way because your on the left and are apologetic for the left more than the right... That said I'm not going to invest the time you did on every point, sorry, I dont have the energy for that. But I did read your comment fully.@schratze
(DIR) Post #AE2QY5DyVDN8Li8Owq by timorl@qoto.org
2021-12-03T20:39:02Z
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@freemo I understand that you might not want to spend too much time on this, but a single example of an actual far-left position that is similarly softened in the comic as the far-right ones would be very appreciated – I really am unaware of them (or impressivley effectively lying to myself?).No too much pressure if you really don't want to though, I know you should probably concentrate on resting and growing your bones back together. ;) @schratze
(DIR) Post #AE2RO8UBcalbWTXPjk by freemo@qoto.org
2021-12-03T20:48:21Z
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@timorl Sure.. In the first panel it is softened compared to the people I might. They didnt simply date blacks because it made them progressive but because they actually felt whites were disgusting, racist people with no sex appeal (the equivelant of the right thinking blacks and minorities are ugly and violent and whatever else)In the second panel there are countless examples of where liberals will go so far to compensate that blacks and minorities arent just in exactly equal perportions but in fact over represented to the extreme (for example companies that hire only women which I've seen on a few occasions).@schratze
(DIR) Post #AE2ygFUlb2jixh3PWa by Pat@qoto.org
2021-12-04T03:01:28Z
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@freemo I've found that racism on the left is also biased against people of color, but they just aren't as open about it, even to themselves.For example, all those Hollywood liberals (progressives) who chastise racism but then turn around and produce horribly racist films -- 8 of 10 films coming out of Hollywood are racially biased. And most of them feature those same "progressive" actors, directors and producers.@timorl @schratze @vance
(DIR) Post #AE36DiIqD7O9XhNdHk by freemo@qoto.org
2021-12-04T04:25:56Z
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@PatYea the left convinces themselves thry are doing it out of love and kindness sonehow. Thr right generally sees it more as tough love despite it being pure hate.@timorl @schratze @vance
(DIR) Post #AE3NbOFC8fMzVBYAzI by Pat@qoto.org
2021-12-04T07:40:44Z
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@freemo @timorl @schratze @vance > "Yea the left convinces themselves thry are doing it out of love and kindness sonehow...."That's known as the "white savior". (Panel L3 in the graphic) The implication is that the relationship is asymmetrical. A textbook example from Hollywood is The Blind Side with Quinton Aaron and Sandra Bullock. (A film with a lot of other racial issues besides the overall white savior bias.)
(DIR) Post #AE3OJjXKKqHWHUAyPI by freemo@qoto.org
2021-12-04T07:48:40Z
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@PatMost of it is ego and just a desire to attack people (usually other whites) without guilt i find. If that werent thr case they would have more respectable interactions with whites who may be making mistakes but are engaging in good faith, which they rarely do@timorl @schratze @vance
(DIR) Post #AE3PJ6HcNVa2Ud5egi by Pat@qoto.org
2021-12-04T07:59:51Z
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@freemo @timorl @schratze @vance That's one of reasons why the word "woke" is used, to reflect the fact that many times people are not being biased out malice, but out of ignorance or insensitivity. It's ironic that many of those who claim to be woke will jump on any misstep and go straight to "cancel" without even considering that the offender may be unaware of their faux pas.
(DIR) Post #AE3S7HQtOkZlSbU2vA by freemo@qoto.org
2021-12-04T08:31:14Z
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@Pat I dont really think either side thinks they are doing it out of malice, but they are.@timorl @schratze @vance
(DIR) Post #AFlss0a1gal1WnswKW by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T16:50:32.981565Z
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@cnx @freemo you're fucking a white male guy on this cartoon lol
(DIR) Post #AFlsy8ma6OachmgKem by freemo@qoto.org
2022-01-24T16:51:32Z
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@1iceloops123 @cnx Which white male in this cartoon am I fucking exactly?
(DIR) Post #AFltDD5KO8YGOOdUY4 by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2022-01-24T16:54:22.964540Z
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@freemo @cnx nah the blue guy on the bottom was a huge meme and I think I always misheard him say you're fucking a white male. While others saying it's you're a fucking white male.