Post AE33LAwRpZTCWqlx7Q by dew_the_dew@poa.st
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(DIR) Post #AE2XquL7tXlZlwP2Nk by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:00:55.404673Z
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As much as I love women. Modern women are toxic as fuck and I don't want to deal with them.
(DIR) Post #AE2XuhEsXrOyIcHrlo by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:01:35.674718Z
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@Chance so true
(DIR) Post #AE2Y1iOqcyqTvVITCa by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:02:51.544676Z
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@AR-15 see. This is why men go for foreign women. They still have some sense of traditional values. White women are all sluts, whores, feminists with fee exceptions and even the exceptions are super great. I will take my mixed race shirt and fit bride now
(DIR) Post #AE2Y56bt4S3Psl0qgK by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:03:28.973444Z
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@AR-15 see. This is why men go for foreign women. They still have some sense of traditional values. White women are all sluts, whores, feminists with few exceptions and even the exceptions aren't super great. I will take my mixed race shirt and fit bride now
(DIR) Post #AE2YBL8rxDn6gpPdgG by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:04:36.913092Z
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@AR-15 I give up trying to spell today. Just correct it in your head
(DIR) Post #AE2YIY1CTkFweUGKHo by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:05:51.609532Z
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@Chance There are still some who are relatively unspoiled. Catholic Latin Mass/homeschooling families with daughters your age are your best bet. I know a few who are looking in fact if you're in the midwest.
(DIR) Post #AE2YbP2M5ymOIanFsu by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:09:17.950976Z
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@AR-15 Yeah I'm Midwest. I know my sisters know some decent girls. Which I think we have been over before and how retarded the situation is. But my other sister knows one girl I might be able to be with. However. I was told by my mom and older sister that my fear of being fucked over by the legal system in a marriage means that no good trad girl would consider me. Which I understand. But come on. Women's protections are built in. All I want is to even the field a bit.
(DIR) Post #AE2YoKh9YAM0b52eBM by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:11:27.268680Z
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@Chance Your mom and sister are a bit retarded tbh and your concerns are valid. If a girl really loves you and doesn't intend on leaving you, I don't think she'd be opposed to signing prenups and stuff like that. Go for it!
(DIR) Post #AE2YudZYHFbCsjUb7Q by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:12:40.106414Z
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@AR-15 you see. Prenups are not allowed in Catholic marriage because FUCK YOU PENIS HAVER SUCK IT UP
(DIR) Post #AE2Z3AzNv1aMq2eCKO by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:14:17.926212Z
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@AR-15 It goes both ways. "He wants a prenup he doesn't trust me" but the man sees it as "she doesn't want a prenup she must be plotting"
(DIR) Post #AE2Z4RL2cNFrpnNaue by ComfyGuy@comfyboy.club
2021-12-03T22:14:35.126795Z
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@Chance @AR-15 women generally aren't really able to see things from a man pov. if you have to tailor all of your opinions to what women consider right you have already lost the game imo.
(DIR) Post #AE2ZCXjAkMpxy0WxDk by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:14:42.329821Z
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@Chance @AR-15 Uh no my friend you absolutely have to get legally married. You only get fucked if you pick wrong.
(DIR) Post #AE2ZCYIybFTdl3HY1o by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:15:59.495421Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 I know. But women are sneaky bastards. And modernity ruined them. The best if girls could fall for Jewish lies at any time. All I said was I wanted a prenup. And I got a multi hour lecture.
(DIR) Post #AE2ZLdTkjVccPVebUO by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:17:38.989020Z
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@ComfyGuy @AR-15 Agreed. They only see it as "he must not trust me" but in reality for men it's the opposite. If she is okay with a prenup then she obviously isn't ganna leave and isn't planning anything. If she is violently against a prenup that is suspicious
(DIR) Post #AE2ZUDUshad6R4H16m by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:19:10.727699Z
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@Chance @TinyFern quick search says prenups aren't completely not allowed but they need to be carefully worded and run by your diocese's office of canon law. I get where you're coming from and you're not wrong to feel that way. Do you have a priest or deacon you can talk to?
(DIR) Post #AE2ZUuAU3IramG3pmi by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:18:33.131883Z
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@Chance @AR-15 Because that's a garbage take. If you treat your future wife like she's the average woman of course she's offended. The actual divorce rate for white, educated Christians who regularly attend church is less than 1%. You are building a marriage which is of a different kind, where you become one flesh. Divorce can't be contemplated.
(DIR) Post #AE2ZaAvDBpweBaQksa by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:20:16.319262Z
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@Chance @TinyFern Latin Mass women don't divorce anyway but I get it.
(DIR) Post #AE2ZcourSl6unzWn6O by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:20:46.131694Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 I see what your point is. But why are you against a prenup? I would use a prenup purely to counter no fault divorce. It would just remove as much no fault divorce bullshit as possible. I wouldn't use it maliciously.
(DIR) Post #AE2ZmVV6VIbvU96CtU by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:21:09.400237Z
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@AR-15 @Chance Yeah if he's so damaged by looking at modern women that he can't even imagine himself capable of trusting the person who he's planning to be with until he dies then he needs help. Dude, if you think you need a prenup then just MARRY SOMEBODY ELSE
(DIR) Post #AE2ZmW3URS7HCnBfUW by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:22:30.910209Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 Of course. The woman. The person who does not suffer from the legal bias. Hates prenups. I'm purely tryin to level the playing field like it used to be before no fault divorce. The fact you get offended by that is kind of sus
(DIR) Post #AE2Zp9ZMV5SkKqLvIe by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:23:00.211136Z
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@AR-15 @TinyFern True. Need to go to that
(DIR) Post #AE2Zsyt49t2sMaOVPs by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:23:41.588162Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 Your prenup is literally built in to the contract with no effort. So of course you don't see a problem.
(DIR) Post #AE2ZzowFXtWdXF92FE by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:24:56.466081Z
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@Chance @TinyFern You should find a priest or deacon to talk to, not randos on here except for me lol.
(DIR) Post #AE2a6IOSwfMYcsQjOi by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:23:24.337829Z
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@Chance @AR-15 Apart from anything else you clearly don't know much about prenups. Unless you've got a large family inheritance to protect they go out the window as soon as you've had kids. This woman marries you, gives up her career to have and raise your kids and create a home for your family - of course there's heaps of protection for her. If society doesn't protect women then it shouldn't bother existing.
(DIR) Post #AE2a6Itf4gJgBd1e1Q by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:26:06.191336Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 if the man doesn't hold up his end of the contract the woman benefits. If the woman doesn't hold up her end of the contract. The woman benefits. Men literally have nothing. There are no institutions or legal protections if the wife just leaves. Meanwhile women have countless entities for help and support. AND the man's assets and paycheck. How is that okay??
(DIR) Post #AE2a6M9ixPwoIJZ0yW by pomstan@xn--p1abe3d.xn--80asehdb
2021-12-03T22:26:08.125801Z
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@Chance @AR-15 They still have some sense of traditional values.golddiggerstraditional valueswhat the fuck
(DIR) Post #AE2a8MQguXCLiqSJdY by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:26:29.747734Z
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@pomstan @AR-15 gold diggers?
(DIR) Post #AE2aAPnnLI8klHF3mS by ComfyGuy@comfyboy.club
2021-12-03T22:26:52.113032Z
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@AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern talking to people irl hard, talking to autist online easy
(DIR) Post #AE2aAQjZsSMReUHCqW by pomstan@xn--p1abe3d.xn--80asehdb
2021-12-03T22:26:52.346932Z
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@Chance @AR-15 most foreign women are
(DIR) Post #AE2aDGETNY3Xwz4qnY by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:27:21.263297Z
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@ComfyGuy @Chance @TinyFern Yes, but easy answers aren't always good answers.
(DIR) Post #AE2aDmiiadGOi3TSNs by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:27:27.126044Z
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@ComfyGuy @AR-15 @TinyFern I'm autistic and probably other things so here I am
(DIR) Post #AE2aTZf0uh0Mq4Gp1s by rikkatakarada@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-03T22:30:20.091929Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern personally, I see nothing wrong with a prenup as long as it is set up by both parties and made to be beneficial to both in the end (unless, obviously infidelity, or other reasons). Not necessarily equality, but some mutually agreed upon support if she’s a housewife, etc.
(DIR) Post #AE2aTh8L83ce132qDA by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:30:20.854229Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 I do see your points. I really do. But cns you please look at this from the man's perspective? I would not be having this struggle if no fault divorce did not exist. But it does. So how do I as a man handle this new hurdle?
(DIR) Post #AE2athiDbG8zL8EFw8 by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:29:33.353111Z
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@Chance @AR-15 You're getting offended by 'women' as a group on principle and letting that poison what should be the perfect trust and intimacy of actual marriage. We've talked before about how you aren't dating anybody and it's pretty obvious that you don't have anybody specific in mind when you talk about this because by definition if that person makes you want a prenup then you shouldn't be marrying them. I am fiercely passionate about good Christian marriages and I can't imagine a worse start than letting your relationship be fundamentally damaged by distrust. The kind of woman you want to marry isn't feminist and doesn't want divorce. The kind of woman you want to marry is giving you her entire life and wants to love and obey. The kind of woman you want to marry will be deeply, foundationally hurt by the idea that you think she would spitefully screw you over if things did go wrong. This kind of woman wouldn't divorce unless you cheat or hit her so those are the scenarios she's imagining - and in that context it's justified for her to screw you financially, so your demand for a prenup comes across as preemptive manipulation and abuse.
(DIR) Post #AE2atide9k56DF67Rw by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:35:02.222475Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 I see your point. I'm coming at this from the average worldly marriage perspective. And not the trad cath marriage perspective. And also my I hereby issue with trust at all. I don't even trust God fully. Idk how TF to trust. And Its not like I have trauma or anything. If anything I should be very trusting considering how I was raised. But here I am. Maybe my perspective would change if I actually knew decent girls. But every girl I grew up with is a fucking slut so
(DIR) Post #AE2b0BNCEaBp4LU8yu by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:36:11.996172Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 I see your point. I'm coming at this from the average worldly marriage perspective. And not the trad cath marriage perspective. And also my Inherent issue with trust at all. I don't even trust God fully. Idk how TF to trust. And Its not like I have trauma or anything. If anything I should be very trusting considering how I was raised. But here I am. Maybe my perspective would change if I actually knew decent girls. But every girl I grew up with is a fucking slut so
(DIR) Post #AE2b43uTvLQ154u7BQ by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:36:54.188216Z
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@Chance @TinyFern You just need to meet and fall in love with the right woman I think. That will change your mind.
(DIR) Post #AE2bH095EPdJAbu6Hw by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:39:15.483639Z
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@rikkatakarada @AR-15 @TinyFern No I see their point and it makes sense I'm just too caught up in average women statistics. I would like a contract that says: "whoever decides to leave gets 1000 dollars and nothing else good luck"
(DIR) Post #AE2bfRr5rI1W3p98im by rikkatakarada@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-03T22:43:41.116582Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern I think the prenup also basically stipulates y’all keep what you brought in.
(DIR) Post #AE2btU2AYTp0s71Gls by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:43:55.108959Z
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@Chance @rikkatakarada @AR-15 I feel like you haven't thought this through. Reasons to leave: AbuseCheating Why would I sign a prenup that means if you hit me I lose everything and have to be a single mother with no goog job history? Why would I sign a prenup that means if you cheat on me I'm in the same situation? Further, women can make your life miserable until you desperately want to leave and then it's your fault. You're better off just saying that the person who cheats or commits physical abuse loses everything and that a split for no fault is 50/50 but that's basically a standard settlement anyway
(DIR) Post #AE2c5epWF3JJpVuKNE by Pagliano@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-03T22:48:05.913052Z
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@Chance @rikkatakarada @AR-15 @TinyFern you should hear what richard “lowtax” kyanka did to try to facilitate an easy divorce, and how it went for him (he was a retard about it and killed himself when his scheme failed)
(DIR) Post #AE2cIFOw636SjETcrw by Crankenstein@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-03T22:50:41.866722Z
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@Pagliano @Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada baste
(DIR) Post #AE2cUbyXzWjUDV1siu by MisterLister@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:52:55.216026Z
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@Chance @TinyFern @AR-15 No you being so adamant on a prenup is fucking copeA "trad wife" turning into a bitch and fucking you over would only happen if YOU stop pulling your weight in the relationship
(DIR) Post #AE2cngIGA4pB6vLJYG by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:52:47.979822Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @rikkatakarada Let's run the hypothetical. You meet a lovely girl, get married. No birth control so she's knocked up pretty quickly. Divorce during pregnancy: you're now trying to provide for a woman who's about to be a single mother, who can't get a job because she's pregnant, who is about to be medically incapable of working and who will need either enough income to pay for childcare or enough income to stay home with the baby. Do you want your child raised by minimum wage childcare employees, on formula and living in whatever housing she can afford as a single mother on a low wage? No, so you get gouged or voluntarily gouge yourself for the sake of your child. Let's say we're now 5 years in and you're still not divorced. Multiple kids, none of them school age. Childcare at this point costs the same as the average full time wage. If you divorce now, you're both screwed financially because now you're paying twice the rent and for childcare as well. Fast forward 10 years. They're school aged now, assuming you're not having 5+ kids, but your wife hasn't worked in a decade. What kind of job can she get? What kind of housing could she afford with that wage which can house your kids in the standard you think they should live? Maybe she needs job training too, that's even longer without income. So you get gouged financially in the divorce. The problem just gets worse from here unless she reenters the workforce while you're still marriages. men get screwed in divorces because they don't see these costs, they don't realise how much money their wife saved them by staying at home and how much it costs to run two different households. Just accept it as a fact of the world and move on.
(DIR) Post #AE2cngnoGm3sgm6VjE by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:56:21.491918Z
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@TinyFern @Chance @rikkatakarada This is retarded and unnecessary to consider because if she leaves for any reason other than abuse then that's her problem, not his, and she deserves to be destitute.
(DIR) Post #AE2dP72veseunV1LOK by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:59:17.495446Z
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@AR-15 @Chance @rikkatakarada Yeah obviously the divorce shouldn't happen at all but even if he leaves because she's a bitch this is the financial scenario.
(DIR) Post #AE2dP7eVPAiUg2bLxg by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-03T23:01:35.555210Z
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@AR-15 @Chance @rikkatakarada You don't punish your kids just because you made a bad decision when picking their mum. They don't deserve to live in squalor. Also have a look through r/breakingmom for an idea of why some women leave without physical abuse. I don't agree with it but I understand it.
(DIR) Post #AE2dQIGFRngjrwoVmq by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-03T23:03:20.893965Z
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@Chance @TinyFern @AR-15 No offence but this sounds a lot like when people try and find the most ethical way to do non monogamy because they don't think they can make monogamy workI understand your fears. I really doThe only consolation that I can offer is that divorce statistics look at all marriages, including 5th and 6th marriages, so they don't reflect the outcomes you should expect. The numbers I saw pointed to Christian marriages, where they were on their first marriage, white, supported by a community, virgins, and a couple of other factors, the rate of divorce drops from 1 in 2 to 1 in 300. My stance on the matter is this: marriage is not about fairness. As an institution created by God it has always been biased in the children's favour and by proxy the woman's. Attempts to mitigate marriage, the commitment that it entails, or create an exit hatch are in opposition to the very concept of marriage. When you marry someone you should do so with the understanding they might become a paraplegic and you'll be left caring for them forever, or that they'll divorce rape you and you'll get nothing. You shouldn't plan to fail, perish the thought, live according to the covenant: till death do you part
(DIR) Post #AE2dXH97zUH2RFoRIu by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-03T23:04:36.523568Z
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@TinyFern @Chance @rikkatakarada Oh I understand now. You're saying having a prenup in the first place hangs makes her feel untrusted and also threatened with financial ruin rather than provided for and protected. I take back calling your reply retarded. Chance, this is something you should consider. Please narrow your dating pool and only talk to the trad women I suggested.
(DIR) Post #AE2dhMgkEvWoWVLbyS by philmchawk@poa.st
2021-12-03T23:03:48.864595Z
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@TinyFern @Chance @AR-15 Nope nope nope, womans protect is a luxury it is something earned, it is not a natural right. There is a reason the vast majority of species don't have male/female dimorphic differences like humans, human woman are PRIVILEGED and they have earned it by raising our kids, cleaning up our areas, and being a companion. It is not actually natural and normal for me to want to die for you, it is something woman EARN. Society and you being able to have a job that you can do (because without inventions there wouldn't be much) is also a luxury. Woman's entire current conditions are luxuries that are going to quickly go away because they think they are rights. If you want to know what it looks like when these luxuries go away look at Africa, watch the nigger men sit around and do nothing while nigger woman do everything.
(DIR) Post #AE2dhN3QsZfzerxjKy by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-03T23:06:25.885900Z
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@philmchawk @TinyFern @AR-15 @Chance You're conflating natural law and religious law. Marriage as we know it is a western Christian concept, it was never in alignment with our bestial desires so we can't use what comes natural as a yardstick for how we should behave.
(DIR) Post #AE2eFujIBMIxwh0tKS by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:32:18.629899Z
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@Chance @AR-15 You as a man reject the poisons of the worldly society around you and stick to a Christian definition of marriage. You're not marrying 'women' on average, you're marrying one specific woman who you should want to trust, love and protect with your last breath. I just asked my husband what his opinion on prenups is, for what it's worth, and he said they're dumb and that you don't understand what marriage is.
(DIR) Post #AE2eRGVpXBqCgo855M by Svantovit@poa.st
2021-12-03T23:14:42.787603Z
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@TinyFern @Chance @AR-15 come the fuck on. most women think a "career" is being a CNA for 15 years, then getting their LVN at 42.
(DIR) Post #AE2gSpItrkD0n6xBGC by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T23:37:24.998206Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @rikkatakarada You see. You admitted to my own point. Why would you sign a prenup that means x for you if the man does something. Okay. Why would I sign marriage docs that means x for me if the woman up and walks. See it goes both ways. The same reason you don't want a prenup is the same reason I do want a prenup.
(DIR) Post #AE2gaYmDCJGjqjLqwy by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-03T23:38:48.566156Z
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@Chance @TinyFern @rikkatakarada Yeah you need to meet the right woman to convince you you don't need a prenup. This woman isn't that woman. This woman is dumb as expected.
(DIR) Post #AE2geP5b9mBwxmFhD6 by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T23:39:30.574133Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @rikkatakarada You went on and on and then ended up exactly in my position. Which takes me back to my original point. Your prenup is the default agreement. Men have to fight for it. So if course you think it's stupid because you have it built in while men don't. It's the same exact thing but you hate prenups because you don't have a need for them. It's literally the same fucking thing
(DIR) Post #AE2gkWNQySebIqVn84 by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-03T23:40:35.891886Z
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@Chance @TinyFern @rikkatakarada So true king. I thought she had a point there for a minute but she's really just being retarded and hysterical.
(DIR) Post #AE2gpZBtwIPLTiWV6m by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T23:41:31.284787Z
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@AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada they aren't dumb. Just typical woman. Women see it as an attack on them and that you don't trust them. But men see it completely differently. This is all a consequence of no fault divorce.
(DIR) Post #AE2gwQRWrWR6NG6TyK by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T23:42:46.039504Z
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@AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada if we remove no fault divorce I will drop this entire thing. But that isn't happening. So I will continue to sit on this fence until I need diapers
(DIR) Post #AE2h6G6i94EdDL3TDE by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-03T23:44:32.655601Z
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@AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada no fault divorce created the need for extra papers because it removed all legal protections for men. Women don't see this consequence. Only men do. So it is not ak that they wouldn't understand it.
(DIR) Post #AE2k6bHTioREkHwhSC by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:14:00.261347Z
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@AR-15 @Chance @rikkatakarada Well that's tremendously kind of you. I was adding some context to explain that women are making an enormous financial & career sacrifice by bearing your children and that the divorce protections reflect that sacrifice. Women who give up work to have your kids get the benefit of not working but they trade it for constant, unrelenting childcare, complete financial dependency on their husbands and often the loss of the hobbies and friendships which defined their identity pre-marriage. It's a position of complete dependence and vulnerability and you're dismissing it entirely. I also want no fault divorce abolished. It's awful and degenerate and it devalued marriage.
(DIR) Post #AE2k6bqZcKVkV8Mj9k by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:18:13.273006Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @rikkatakarada yeah. And men aren't sacrificing? You have proven yourself a hypocrite. You hate no fault divorce but also don't want a man to have papers to try and dismiss it. And also everything else I said in the 2 above posts.
(DIR) Post #AE2kCTKwAfUHqQMbNg by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:15:40.504920Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @rikkatakarada "When the world stops being shit, I too will stop being shit." Good luck with that.
(DIR) Post #AE2kCTgYsGmivUTs5Q by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:19:16.728763Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @rikkatakarada Im not being shit. If I am shit then you are shit by your own admission. Did you ignore my 2 posts where I proved that you and me hate and love prenups for the same exact reason? Or does that disagree with your sensibilities?
(DIR) Post #AE2kOWF5C5euKaMySu by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:21:27.392454Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @rikkatakarada here's a refresher
(DIR) Post #AE2kXV0p8WDF7eyx4S by Crankenstein@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-04T00:23:05.653670Z
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@Chance @rikkatakarada @AR-15 @TinyFern Anyone who is against a prenup, regardless of gender, is a jew and will screw you.
(DIR) Post #AE2kfZS4Vx6FCxZlxY by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:24:32.669114Z
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@Crankenstein @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada I partially agree partially disagree. I do see the woman's perspective. But I think they only hold that perspective because they don't actually know how bad it is. A girl that is just ignorant to the whole thing no matter intention would find it insulting. However. Then you have women who know exactly what they are doing and hate prenups because it doesn't allow them to screw over the husband and take his shit.
(DIR) Post #AE2kwGvycF02hQWllY by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:24:40.529453Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @rikkatakarada My prior points - prenups won't hold up after kids anyway so they're functionally useless - if you're doing it right you won't get divorced - divorce means financial ruin regardless because now kids are split between two households worth of expenses and the woman can't realistically earn enough to pull her weight - prenups are insulting to ask for (unless there's a large family inheritance involved or its just about cheating/abuse) Not a hypocrite.
(DIR) Post #AE2kwHSaez5UKZmobI by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:27:31.164900Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @rikkatakarada no. You are a hypocrite. You won't sign a prenup for the same exact reason I want a prenup. So should you asking for no prenup be an insult to me? If we do it right and don't get divorced the prenup shouldn't matter since you won't need it. You are caught up in feelings of "insult" when a prenup literally means nothing if you do the marriage correctly anyway. So you should be perfectly fine. Also why do you hate no fault divorce but also hate prenups? Prenups are the closest thing to fixing no fault divorce.
(DIR) Post #AE2kyZCBguLBupCikS by Crankenstein@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-04T00:27:59.159470Z
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@Chance @rikkatakarada @AR-15 @TinyFern Why would you marry someone who is too naïve to understand what a prenup is?
(DIR) Post #AE2l3kK5kMObsIN48O by philmchawk@poa.st
2021-12-03T23:10:49.921740Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern Wrong considering East Asians and Pagans practiced it as well, try again.
(DIR) Post #AE2l3ksTgVtxawSWjQ by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:28:54.021783Z
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@philmchawk @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern oh, I didn't realise you had a 5 day marriage, 4 wives, and your ideal divorce was repeating a phrase 3 times; you fucking hack. Try again, and maybe address my point
(DIR) Post #AE2l6UUF59Whd0QZYe by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:29:23.172608Z
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@Crankenstein @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada Because women are generally not very smart. Modern women mostly just know how to phone. Not much else. They are essentially ignorant children until someone impregnated them.
(DIR) Post #AE2l8ICjic4W796Aoy by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:29:42.771417Z
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@Chance @TinyFern @rikkatakarada Yes. Women argue about feelings, not fact. They are incapable of thinking rationally about anything they feel strongly about.
(DIR) Post #AE2l92QTrqOlT5sndA by Crankenstein@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-04T00:29:52.704776Z
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@Chance @rikkatakarada @AR-15 @TinyFern I do not agree with that assessment.
(DIR) Post #AE2lGMDOgtgwrzFlGi by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:31:10.043891Z
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@Crankenstein @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada Think about it. They can be socially programmed by ads easier than men. They are just more susceptible to this stuff. So of course they wouldn't truly understand prenups and such.
(DIR) Post #AE2lLz13rCC4enAKzg by Crankenstein@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-04T00:32:13.065691Z
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@Chance @rikkatakarada @AR-15 @TinyFern It's a very simple concept. I do agree they are easier to manipulate in most cases.
(DIR) Post #AE2lPIfDGR7QSgWnXU by philmchawk@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:32:06.573766Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern You should look up divorce rates of christianity vs east Asians you fucktard. Your point is gay and retarded your church is no longer the sovereign.
(DIR) Post #AE2lUAW6ytHWduanHU by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:33:40.034260Z
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@Crankenstein @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada Yes but as you can see even the less programmed ones hate prenups for literally the same reason men like them but then claim its insulting to ask for one. Women just are not good at logic. At all.
(DIR) Post #AE2lYRISXIorqJF8IC by Crankenstein@kiwifarms.cc
2021-12-04T00:34:28.157702Z
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@Chance @rikkatakarada @AR-15 @TinyFern Again, I say any woman against it isn't worth marrying.
(DIR) Post #AE2lhJ0OjTAkjZ1TV2 by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:36:03.372877Z
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@Chance @TinyFern @AR-15 @rikkatakarada > Prenups are the closest thing to fixing no fault divorce.Come on dude, you're better than thisSaving your assets after divorce isn't even remotely the same as making an unbreakable covenant. Marriage with no fault divorce with a prenup isn't marriage, it's a girlfriend with a ring. The prenup doesn't fix the problems with no fault, it just abolishes marriage in everything but nameHow does the prenup make the marriage or the commitment more meaningful and sacred? It doesn't, it just making the marriage even more mercenaryHow does the prenup provide greater protection to the children? It doesn't, if there is a divorce it makes resource allocation even more strained
(DIR) Post #AE2lyQGN0BNOALeiCP by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:39:08.507138Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada You don't trust women, no fault divorce makes it easier for them to be lying skanks, so you don't want to get married.A prenup doesn't make the women more trust worthy, it just makes a failed marriage less costly, so you might consider marriageYou haven't fixed anything. You don't trust your wife more. You don't want to be married more. You just fear divorce less
(DIR) Post #AE2m1so7KbWfYz5gVk by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:39:45.791852Z
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@philmchawk @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern Cant help but notice you didn't address my point. Try again
(DIR) Post #AE2m7UV0cb15uUpL2e by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:33:17.336419Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @rikkatakarada Oh cool so ignore all of my points.I went into marriage with a car, a job and large cash savings while my husband had nothing and had barely finished his degree. A prenup would have only protected me. I think they're dumb because they're a worldly attempt to control the relationship. It goes entirely against the spirit of complete submission and love on which the marriage should be based (woman submits to man, both submit to God), and it amounts to a man trying to dodge his responsibility as head of the household once he's found somebody younger and prettier and decides to leave. It should tell you something that you don't want a prenup that punishes the person who commits adultery or abuse, you want to punish the person who leaves. You want all the control and none of the responsibility, so you can treat your wife however she likes and she can't leave unless she wants to suddenly be thrust into being a poor single mother. It's pathetic.
(DIR) Post #AE2mF2zgljdQvAmRpw by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:42:09.068707Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @rikkatakarada I never said I didn't want a prenup like that. Retard. I meant it as the person who leaves is the person who did the wrong things and it was oversimplified. Chill out. Nothing but feelings here. No facts. Yeah. Complete submission. So why does the woman get literally all the benefits on the legal side while men just get fucked in every aspect? Not having a prenup is the same for women as it is to a man if they have a prenup. You just hate it because it isn't in your favor. Even though it's the exact same fucking thing. Currently without a prenup the woman can just leave and take all his shit plus 18 years of his paycheck. So she isn't submitting shit. She can take his entire lifes work and throw it away without a prenup. Meanwhile the man can't do shit. This is purely you bring emotional and intentionally ignoring it because if whatever reason. The only reason you find it insulting is because your end of the deal is pre baked in and you don't have to ask for it. Imagine how insulted a man would be if a woman and to him and said 'in case of divorce I get all your shit bitch boy lol and the kids'?? That's literally the default. A prenup is just trying to get back to as close to pre no fault divorce as possible. The person who did the bad thing should be punished. And again. You won't sign a prenup for the same reason I will sign one. So we have the same issue and want the same thing but somehow what you want is okay and what I want is insulting despite being THE SAME THING
(DIR) Post #AE2mMpwXAx6MlG1FTc by ehhh@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:43:33.849118Z
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@AR-15 Telling my asian females frens on fedi to quit study and become housewives.Ur welcome.
(DIR) Post #AE2mdKJE2kVVZaUnjc by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:46:32.504499Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada How is it not marriage? Women literally have a prenup alternative built into the base deal that essentially says "FUCK YOU" to the man. So how does legal marriage make a marriage more sacred? It doesn't. Is just let's women fuck over men. The system is entirely rigged. And uptite niggers who can't think just say "it's insulting" like faggot yes. And you know what else is? Asking me to just fuck myself if the bitch decides to leave.
(DIR) Post #AE2mhY3Kt1TNMB4oLI by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:47:18.795568Z
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@AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @rikkatakarada It's really quite simple. Get rid of all divorce except in cases of abandonment and adultery. Make both a crime again. Make the punishment: shaved head, public flogging, and cease 70% of assets at time of crime or punishment (whichever is greater), and forfeiture of parental rightsPeople will think twice about getting married, it won't be a trivial thing, and even when people have kids (which currently destroys prenups) it will still have sting
(DIR) Post #AE2mlupCAABX8nXqQS by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:48:05.523898Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada actually. If I bring a prenup. And she doesn't have a problem. That tells me immediately that this is probably going to work since she for sure has no alternative motives. Meanwhile a woman who hates prenups is kind of a red flag.
(DIR) Post #AE2mt7dcvBWyuMZPxA by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:49:23.818558Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada YES! HOLY FUCK YOU CAN THINK! TOO BAD WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE GETTING MARRIED AS A MAN IS THE SINGLE MOST DANGEROUS THING HE CAN DO BECAUSE OF NO FAULT DIVORCE AND HATE OF PRENUPS
(DIR) Post #AE2mx9vgLQWFAkwMnw by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:50:07.454409Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada it's almost like I addressed this already. Without no fault divorce I would not even consider a prenup. But because of no fault divorce I have to adapt
(DIR) Post #AE2nAfcVpX6tDyPtGi by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:49:44.690686Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @rikkatakarada I made a distinction between 'the one who leaves' and 'the one who cheats/abuses' earlier and you kept using the former phrasing, so it was a reasonable assumption that you meant the thing you literally said. Are you going to call your wife ugly names when she disagrees with you? You keep retreating to generalisations about how all women are awful and all women do these things. It's terrible that you've been hurt so badly like that but honestly it's an indicator that you're much too damaged to engage in a fruitful marriage. Marriage isn't something to be done tentatively and contractually, it's an all-or-nothing gamble with your mind, body and soul where you swear to God that you will serve and love that person until you die. If you're not man enough for the commitment, just say so and stay single.
(DIR) Post #AE2nAg700BUqkWgEmu by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:52:34.231082Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @rikkatakarada Yeah but lucky for you none of the legal or financial matters because when you cheat and leave the man loses everything he worked for. Because you won't sign a piece of paper that says "no divorce or cheating nigga" or something. You get to rest easy knowing the entire societal and legal system is on your side. Men don't. Men have to live knowing that they are eternally fucked by every known system to man kind if you decide "fuck this"
(DIR) Post #AE2nNY3NH4krWN7bvc by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:54:54.178628Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada I'll say it again, no fault divorce fucked marriage. I'm not going to tell you that you should even enter a modern marriage with the bog standard modern woman. Divorce was never fair, nor was it ever meant to be, even if the current system is fucked. It's not marriage because it's reduced to a public declaration. You can leave at any time, it's simple a man made cohabitation arrangement. Its got the same terms as a phone plan, not an unbreakable bond. There's nothing eternal, transcendent or anything else about it. Shit, even business partnerships are built on more trust. It's cummies for rentBeing legal doesn't make marriage valid. But in a society were we outsource violence, we use laws to enact the standards we desire. Marriage should be a no-take-backs proposition, not a gym membership with an exit fee.
(DIR) Post #AE2nWC8Y83NO9dfJPU by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:56:27.729047Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada And like I said, a prenup doesn't improve things. You're not getting closer to a "real" marriage with a prenup, you're just getting a safer pussy subscription service
(DIR) Post #AE2nWTrqCuhr91zDrk by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:56:30.769574Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @rikkatakarada I also noticed you ignored the part where I removed no fault divorce and made it out where women would have to ask for what is currently considered the default. Asking for no prenup is the same as a man asking for prenup that says "if we get divorced for any reason I get everything and the kids and most of your paycheck until the youngest is 18 and you can go be miserable or something" You just don't acknowledge that part because it's true and you know it.
(DIR) Post #AE2nftqcywjqKNuV3Q by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:58:12.541466Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada yeah. And um. Why do women get all of that but men are told to suck a dick in every divorce? Why am I not allowed to level the field?
(DIR) Post #AE2nkeU9Wj2o86fDTk by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:59:04.080209Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada So if a 2oman gets no prenup (a prenup for women is no prenup) that's wholesome and great but if a man gets a prenup (equal rights) it's just a pussy subscription? Can you even think?
(DIR) Post #AE2nrcJ61Yt3OuoUDo by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T00:56:42.229678Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @rikkatakarada You clearly don't know anything about marriage because being set back five years financially is nothing to the emotional damage done by cheating or divorce. You're looking at this coldly and contractually, which is why none of this thought process will do anything but hurt you and your relationship if you let this MGTOW larp impact your real life.
(DIR) Post #AE2nrcnEDWzQuMuYBk by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:00:15.841684Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @rikkatakarada You can't acknowledge the fact that women do that just as often as men. Under your proposal the man gets both the emotional and financial meanwhile the woman will only ever have to deal with emotional. Hypocrite. You literally can not see anything outside of your shoes.
(DIR) Post #AE2nxYydJmluoJ4r3Y by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:01:23.770457Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada You can do whatever the fuck you want bro, you can add a pussy stipend to your prenup if you want. You can a steak and blow job birthday clause. You can all the stupid shit that people put in their prenups already. You're not getting closer to a real marriage or dealing with the real issues.First mistake: trying to make marriage fair
(DIR) Post #AE2o1ed8F2UlVAyGo4 by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:02:08.821597Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @rikkatakarada And you still will not even acknowledge this point. ITS THE SAME THING. We are fighting because we both want the same thing and somehow it's worse when I do it.
(DIR) Post #AE2o9S7IeMcJ0bngO0 by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:02:16.087059Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @rikkatakarada > I noticed you ignored the part where we ignored reality Yeah I did. No point in talking about hypotheticals. The cat's out of the bag and it's not going back in. Do me a favour and go to your states child support calculator and tell me how much of your income actually gets taken if you have one kid on your current income. Is it 90%?
(DIR) Post #AE2o9SiARI6iqx37qq by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:03:33.286251Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @rikkatakarada Ignored reality???? NIGGER THAT IS REALITY! that is how it is right now. You just don't have to ask for it like a man does
(DIR) Post #AE2oBbAlx1Q9ftRplQ by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:03:56.453839Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada THINK MARK THINK - You keep thinking I want marriage to stay the way it is, even though you responded to a post where I said the opposite!
(DIR) Post #AE2oEOJyBoZUgW57cO by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:04:26.343895Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada So essentially "fuck you suck it up lol"
(DIR) Post #AE2oJ77hYfqynJaxfs by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:05:17.750178Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada Missed the point. Marriage is fucked. And somehow if a man tries to unfuck it he ruins it.
(DIR) Post #AE2oN05vdGdK9bcRs0 by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:06:00.402306Z
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@Chance @TinyFern @rikkatakarada Yeah she can only look at this emotionally. Women can cheat AND take most of what you are expected to build for yourself for as long as you are young and healthy. And this is fair and epic because she feels like it would be mean to ask her to say she won't do this.At the same time this doesn't matter at all if you meet a woman who won't play these games by these rules, who sees marriage as an unbreakable bond and who wants to be with you forever, who would rather die than cheat or divorce, who will sacrifice everything into marriage and only ask that you do the same for her. She's out there and just waiting for God to introduce her to you. I'll keep praying for you.
(DIR) Post #AE2oYlH8YVl3fTTC3E by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:08:07.977489Z
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@AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada And guess what? A prenup would not impact a marriage in any way if it it was built like you said. So it's literally not a problem. I fucking hate women sometimes. They literally just can't think about anything but feelings.
(DIR) Post #AE2oglqkIuxLlXwdPs by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:07:35.277389Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @rikkatakarada Walk me through your hypothetical divorce here. You marry a woman on the same income as you, or even just 50% of your income. She stays home and has two kids. You get divorced when they're 1 & 3 years old, so she's still breastfeeding the younger kid. What kind of settlement do you actually think is fair and how far is the current arrangement from that? I've said like four times that I hate no fault divorce. I don't know what you want me to say. Nobody should have a prenup, even a state enforced one, but doing something voluntarily is worse. You're very clearly too upset to understand my points here. It's an emotional issue where you feel like you could never ever trust a woman. I'm sad for you and I will pray for you. It's burdensome to be so full of hate and fear. That doesn't give you leave to be rude and disrespectful when we disagree in what has been a genuine discussion.
(DIR) Post #AE2ogmPqCR1rWOMf7Q by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:09:34.882240Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @rikkatakarada why did they get divorced? Was she having Tyrone over while dad worked? Or was dad out late seeing Sarah from the other side of town?
(DIR) Post #AE2ohhqOgN8jdGEAvQ by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:09:45.122864Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada No, essentially a prenup doesn't fix it or bring you closer to a functional marriage. I couldn't be clearer.Better plan: find a girl who was raised in a household with married parents who taught her that divorce isn't an option. Find a nice white, Christian, church attending, virgin, with no previous marriages who has a healthy relationship with her father. It won't matter what the law says, she'll do what she thinks she is right and how she was raised
(DIR) Post #AE2ow7ZznNDfVHQhTk by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:12:20.632324Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada the prenup isn't supposed to make a marriage better. That comes separately. The prenup is purely to say that on a legal level (x) and (y) are not a not going to happen. It's taking the idea of Christian marriage and making it so that it applies on the legal level as well as spiritual. So that only the person in the wrong gets punished.
(DIR) Post #AE2p6AOsABUv9C178S by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:11:42.410150Z
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@AR-15 @Chance @rikkatakarada Yes, me saying a dozen times that I want to get rid of no fault divorce is me saying that the current arrangement is fair and epic. Thanks, I feel seen. To the second kind of woman, you assuming that she's a worldly gold-digging whore is an incredible insult. It would make me reassess the relationship because I would wonder about how paranoid and resentful my partner really is.
(DIR) Post #AE2p6AvqBbrwnRRRWS by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:14:09.889094Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @rikkatakarada guess what. Getting rid of no fault divorce would remove all your legal protections you have now. The same intention as the fucking prenup I have been talking about.
(DIR) Post #AE2pJcgQJp5Kd8duHQ by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:16:36.157878Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada Nothing about the Christian concept of marriage was about making it too costly to get divorced. It was never conceived of in a manner of incentives and hurdles. All you are doing is telling the woman the price tag for quitting. You are accepting their priors
(DIR) Post #AE2pKz6CSlcCRPLg7U by philmchawk@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:12:08.410511Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern christian law doesn't matter, you aren't even the sovereign of your own religion.
(DIR) Post #AE2pKzkc2VwQSkFx6u by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:16:50.693338Z
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@philmchawk @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern Evade, dodge, cope
(DIR) Post #AE2pP6kPy2InJz7ti4 by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:14:13.855688Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @rikkatakarada Sure, she cheated on you on a friend's hens night. Single event and she's incredibly sorry. Both kids are yours though. What is fair? Do you really want to shove your kids into poverty or take them away from their mother just because you want to spite her? It's a horrendous thing she did but they're your children. How's that child support calculator going? Is she taking 80% of your income? Did you not bother to check or have you found out how little she would actually get?
(DIR) Post #AE2pP7D8FHGql2YpSy by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:17:35.384167Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @rikkatakarada Might just bury her in the backyard honestly. But either way she is getting kicked out. I don't need that kind of influence around my children. I'll keep em. She can die in a whole. I'll find a new mom that won't do that. Go full Eminem on her cheating ass.
(DIR) Post #AE2pTkg7RpzKK3KWzg by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:18:25.920782Z
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@Chance @TinyFern @rikkatakarada >I hate thing it's bad>no waaaah you can't just make me sign a paper that says I won't try to benefit from thing, that's insulting and I'm mad now (thing is not actually bad teehee and you're bad for cutting off access to it)>you guys don't understand though!! I said I HATE thing okay???Woman moment. I am done here.
(DIR) Post #AE2pXaWR9Netywd9we by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:19:07.481617Z
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@AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada my phone's about to die. Guess I'm buying more cars I stead of a wife
(DIR) Post #AE2pfCMUrUA5Mnbsyu by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:20:29.412361Z
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@Chance @TinyFern @rikkatakarada King, you deserve a Queen to charge your phone for you (21st century household chore)
(DIR) Post #AE2phOOJ6mQ1FnVFgW by Crux_Invictus@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:20:53.962009Z
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@TinyFern @Chance @AR-15 @rikkatakarada Prenups, divorce all of this worldliness is wrong and should not be considered part of the institution of Marriage as intended by the Lord. Two are made one flesh never to be separated (Mark 10:9).We as men must understand what is expected of us in a marriage. We are to love our wives as Christ loves the Church, this includes sacrificing everything even our lives (Ephesians 5:25). The wife also has a duty and indeed this duty includes something which only she can do. She is also called to submit to and honor her husband. If we understand this in a similar way to the Fourth Commandment this also means that the husband must be honorable.We must not cling so tightly to worldly possessions that we shy away from marriage. We must trust in the Lord and pray that He blesses us with good and loving wives. Then pray for His help in doing our duty as husbands. This is our duty regardless of the damage this world has done to us all which makes us wary and defensive. I am also frustrated with what the world has done to women and men. I have sinned greatly because of my lustful flesh and for that the Lord is disciplining me, perhaps it is His will I follow in the example of St Paul. I still desire a wife and a family and I pray often to be so blessed but I will trust in the Lord.
(DIR) Post #AE2pqQ5YAO9n7n2BCC by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:22:31.865163Z
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@Crux_Invictus @TinyFern @AR-15 @rikkatakarada so why is religious and state marriage connected? Why can't we avoid all of this and separate the 2? Make it so you can be married religiously without married by the state. Literally fixed everything.
(DIR) Post #AE2prarvZTdSqgDpb6 by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:22:44.246259Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @Chance @TinyFern @rikkatakarada He has trust issues and he needs to be told to go talk to his priest and talk to some Godly women. That will set his heart at ease. This thread is only hardening his heart. Thank you and bless you for trying but I do not think you are getting through to him. Please join me in praying for him.
(DIR) Post #AE2pzaG9ii8VHAMfaK by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:24:11.198433Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada Any attempt at making a "good" no fault divorce is an affront to god and accepting their idea of what marriage is. Or in other words> Hahahahaha How the fuck is a divorce even real Hahahahaha nigger just walk toward christ Like nigga god knit you together
(DIR) Post #AE2q3VEoKgRkrMbWj2 by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:19:37.386833Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @Chance @AR-15 @rikkatakarada This guy is trying to make divorce fair. Marriage isn't fair, why would divorce be?If you're trying to make your marriage fair then you've already lost it.
(DIR) Post #AE2q3Vbqx0sW0pNvdo by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:24:53.153878Z
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@TinyFern @Christ_is_Lord @Chance @rikkatakarada Fern, bless you for trying to get through to him. I don't think you're dumb, you're just trying to use spiritual arguments to counter his rational ones and I get that that's frustrating. I'm sorry for the mean things I said to you. Please pray for him and for me.
(DIR) Post #AE2qEbRLc5GxHTlFmi by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:26:53.331331Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada So you just accept the even more broken version and somehow that's more pleasing to God than an attempt to fix it? Well if I just keep watching porn that's better than trying to stop because if I try to stop that's just accepting their (whatever). Fighting back is worse than compliance. Got it. Faggot
(DIR) Post #AE2qFv1eHRRGJWMt72 by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:27:08.376417Z
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@AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @rikkatakarada Yeah, you're probably right.
(DIR) Post #AE2qJMjzgyTJ8jkoIy by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:26:32.684613Z
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@Chance @Crux_Invictus @AR-15 @rikkatakarada I suggest you look up de facto marriage. You'll end up married whether you want to or not. The question is whether you do it willingly and in submission to God's will or timidly and fearful of worldly attitudes. You need to detox from worldly perspectives on marriage, my friend. Get some wholesome Christian married friends into your life or read some Christian chick lit.
(DIR) Post #AE2qJNFXnfi0iaW0Tw by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:27:45.363229Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @Crux_Invictus @rikkatakarada Notice how you didn't answer my question.
(DIR) Post #AE2qRyeobTcf3JRDN2 by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:29:19.237057Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @Crux_Invictus @rikkatakarada I would love some nice friends. Too bad they are all world's pieces of shit even the ones that go to church. Fucking single mother looking ass over there with her autism child at fucking 20. Fuck this shit.
(DIR) Post #AE2qdxfC7mP5ReKVcG by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:31:28.974119Z
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@Chance @TinyFern @Crux_Invictus @rikkatakarada Come to Latin mass with me sometime, I'll introduce you to some friends.
(DIR) Post #AE2rFeIeZ9yeOUl0RE by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:38:17.682736Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada Nah nigga. Read Jeremiah 29. The solution is to live in Babylon as closely to God as you can. You don't fix this problem with ethnical sin (i.e. "ethical porn", prenup on divorce) you try to sin no more. Do everything in your power to construct a marriage where neither party needs a fine to stay together. Quit porn. Read the gospel. The fucking Jews rejected Christ because they didn't want to trust in God. They wanted to do battle, make new laws, and overthrow Caesar. Jesus literally rebukes the Pharisees for trying to construct a system of ethical divorce, rather than focusing on not having divorce at all. Go to priest. Do not pass go
(DIR) Post #AE2rrxQvsOmcjvteZk by 109Reasons@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:43:01.761771Z
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@TinyFern @Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @Chance @rikkatakarada > If you're trying to make your marriage fair then you've already lost it.This. Angling to come out ahead in intimate relationships is for Jews and insecure girls. A guy who's obsessed with this calculus isn't ready for a relationship.
(DIR) Post #AE2u4Y0rtr49ZZpvF2 by philmchawk@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:49:33.144067Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern Na you're the one coping trying to distinguish between christian marriage and marriage like your religion has any sovereignty (or like you don't have high ass divorce rates).
(DIR) Post #AE2u4YZFq0ZVIDvNq4 by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:09:53.168295Z
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@philmchawk @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern Let's try again from the top, you're spent more time changing the topic than reading my first post> You're conflating natural law and religious law. Marriage isn't a natural phenomenon. It's a cultural and religious one."""womans protect is a luxury it is something earned, it is not a natural right. There is a reason the vast majority of species"""When you are talking about what appears in nature you are confusing religion/culture and naturalism> Marriage as we know it is a western Christian conceptNot modern defacto relationship. Not Islamic marriage. Not chink marriage. Not African marriage. The thing that we all mean when we say marriage (not you, cause you're a retard). Western, white, Christian, till death do you part, monogamous marriage> it was never in alignment with our bestial desires so we can't use what comes natural as a yardstick for how we should behave.As established, Christian marriage is not natural. We can not use natural law to determine how marriage should work. We need religious law, and divine revelation."""It is not actually natural and normal for me to want to die for you, it is something woman EARN"""This and everything else that follows is irrelevant. What's natural and normal isn't marriage. Marriage is above and beyond what, as you mentioned, can be expected from Africans, nature, or the uncivilized (tautology).You don't earn anything in marriage. Like grace, it is freely given. You pledge yourself to your wife for the rest of your life before you live it. You don't promise to treat each other equally or fairly, you promise to love and care for each other. If they're sick, it isn't about equal, or what a monkey would do in this situation, it's about the Covenant you made. Left to their own devices people and animals aren't in long term monogamous relationships. Marriage is unnatural. Civilization is unnatural. Holiness is in contradiction with our unredeemed instincts. You can not use what is natural to determine how marriage should look. Unless of course you want a modern "trust the science" marriage where adultery and divorce, are standard
(DIR) Post #AE2uLxfFmXUe3I1uUa by Federale@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:13:02.162049Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada "God" not god.
(DIR) Post #AE2ubv3vDxs8cCB4ka by hourmutt@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:15:55.853015Z
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@Chance @AR-15 Yes, a good woman would not consider marrying a man who has that little trust in her. That is perfectly reasonable. You are obviously young and do not have much experience with the world. Trust me -- if you overcome your media-induced paranoia about females you will know a good woman when you meet her, and have no problem trusting her.
(DIR) Post #AE2ueKi8plZqk58ncu by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:16:20.084293Z
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@Federale @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @rikkatakarada Apologies
(DIR) Post #AE2vIJOh8a04Fe6lzE by SuT5CH3gFe26TCFR@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:55:13.790014Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @rikkatakarada To play the Devil's advocate here (I Hate that saying),We must recognize the current world's standing as Fallen and Depraved. God sets the Law forth towards what I like to term "feral man" (I.e. old testament Jews, those who dont accept christ/god as the almighty). The new testament is the fulfillment of the law with moral, good (only god is good but still), and righteous people. bible quote to help my proof-Mathew 19:8 NIV"Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”Emphasis on Hard Hearts, that's what we have nowadays. If I had to estimate, upwards of 80% of humans are not true followers of Christ in traditional western Christian countries. We must realize Christians are stuck in enemy territory and besieged on all sides. They might follow Christian teachings but the majority don't. They need a "law" to keep them inline from truly degenerating over a timespan. This gives them an incomplete moral code, but still a moral code to live by. They dont know the whole truth but only some with a law set forth. This gives them time to repent and not totally downward spiral into oblivion. Divorce is usually for immoral reasons. Society is also mostly immoral reason. The man's job is to care for the woman. When Divorce is activated nowadays, the state (welfare) and child support takes care of the woman. There have been news stories of beautiful women immediately marrying and divorcing men just to get their money. I believe we all know the stories of the child support cases, so I don't have to expand on this. (it is a terrible thing to take children from a father. ( this is my personal biggest fear)) If we eliminate this, then women wont have the "pull" to go down a degenerate pathway. (Like it or not, the demon god Mammon has serious pull on this plane) A stopgap measure for a non-christian world. I would even go as far to say a daemon world.Its just my quick thoughts on this. I could be totally wrong and I would accept that. God Bless You.
(DIR) Post #AE2vIJqhSSOxeVD8dc by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:23:35.534638Z
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@SuT5CH3gFe26TCFR @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @rikkatakarada Idk if we really disagree at all. It's really a question of what the faithful remnant should do. We are called to be salt and light to inspire others to follow God's law by living admirable lives.I think the way we do that is by not having divorce, through repairing our communities and parenting, not by having the fairest divorce.
(DIR) Post #AE2vqXLXmUKpMMxDgO by philmchawk@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:18:15.510006Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern >Marriage isn't a natural phenomenon. It's a cultural and religious one.Wrong all K strategist species have some variant of it. >When you are talking about what appears in nature you are confusing religion/culture and naturalismThose are downstream of genetics, but if you want to prove your point go to Africa and get their divorce rates to be the same as East Asians EMJ. >Not modern defacto relationship. Not Islamic marriage. Not chink marriage. Not African marriage. The thing that we all mean when we say marriage (not you, cause you're a retard). Western, white, Christian, till death do you part, monogamous marriageIs/ought>As established, Christian marriage is not natural. We can not use natural law to determine how marriage should work. We need religious law, and divine revelation.Except other species do the "death do we part" better than christians. >Left to their own devices people and animals aren't in long term monogamous relationships.R/K strategy. >Civilization is unnatural.Collectivism isn't natural? Oh man I need to talk to bees/ants. >You can not use what is natural to determine how marriage should look. Unless of course you want a modern "trust the science" marriage where adultery and divorce, are standardThis is the part where you will pretend like christainity had nothing to do with modernity and will refuse to apply any critique of modernity to christainity so ill go back to just calling you wrong. christianity failed and isn't the sovereign of even it's own religion, it doesn't have any moral confidence or divine certainty anymore, it turned it's back on it's own tenants, it is dead and i'm not willing to pretend like it matters in this discussion, that is why I didn't acknowledge your counterexample that is just an is/ought. Until sword jesus comes back you can sit down and stfu because your shit lost to jews and is owned by jews, time to try something else.
(DIR) Post #AE2vqXvLdMyV9PhoUS by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:29:45.938046Z
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@philmchawk @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern > Wrong all K strategist species have some variant of it. Holy shit, there are elephant priests and koala bishops! That's crazy. I really sure am glad you read the whole response first and didn't start responding immediately like a complete fucking retard who can't read. That would be really really dumb. Like @TinyFern said, this conversation is happening in a context which you are completely ignoring. I really am happy to hear about turtles praising God and exchanging rings though, that makes me happy
(DIR) Post #AE2wPJu9kV4xo3jIxc by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:21:23.734124Z
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@philmchawk @Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @Chance > Thinks civilisation is the same as collectivism > Thinks humans falling into atheism and degeneracy is evidence that Christianity is wrong about humanity Bruh.You can just say you think Christianity is incorrect and therefore the Christian model of marriage is wrong. Christians should try to follow a Christian model of marriage though and Chance is a Christian so shouldn't we give him advice that accords with his beliefs?
(DIR) Post #AE2wPKTFe19TYu9KfA by philmchawk@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:24:52.420145Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @Chance @Christ_is_Lord The christian model of marriage has nothing to do with christianity and is just R/K explained. But yes you should strive for that type of model, and what better way to do so than to remove financial incentives to woman to divorce? If you truly believe in death do you part why would you mind removing safety nets?
(DIR) Post #AE2wPLxQ7KsWAlGwKG by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:31:10.339743Z
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@philmchawk @AR-15 @Chance @Christ_is_Lord Monogamous marriage until death is only one aspect of Christian marriage. The other stuff is the bit you're dismissing - the covenant service, love, responsibility and submission. Your secular view of marriage doesn't include those bits so they don't make sense to you.
(DIR) Post #AE2wPMOMVAQfWJsSJs by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:36:03.789024Z
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@TinyFern @philmchawk @AR-15 @Chance This guy might be beyond reaching. He won't even read a post in full before starting his angry response. He's unable or unwilling to understand anyone else perspective, not even enough to comprehend the conversation. SAD! Many such cases
(DIR) Post #AE2xNxqyLket519r16 by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:47:01.548158Z
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@AR-15 i might take you up on this at some point. modern Catholicism is stagnating my will to live. id actually have to buy clothes for it tho and i hate doing that. i havent worn nice clothes in years. just metal shirts and jeans
(DIR) Post #AE2xg0slpJzFgdbafw by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:50:16.845879Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada yeah one issue. the fine exists prenup or not. its like you cant understand that. im trying to move that fine from 100% the man to 100% whoever does the bad thing. the only fine in marriage is on men. and i want it to be on whoever is the piece of shit that breaks the union. constantly indulging in and entertaining a bad system is never going to fix it. you need to do everything you can to remove it
(DIR) Post #AE2xrVvwifBBAxZh7A by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:52:22.224127Z
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@hourmutt @AR-15 its not even media induced. its just real life induced. none of these bitches are worth a shit. somehow people can find ones that are but i aint found one. except my sister and im not marrying her. this isnt alabama
(DIR) Post #AE2y1uGR78DtX079Si by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:54:15.065123Z
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@hourmutt @AR-15 and it isnt even about trust entirely. its just making things more the way they should be and not this demented jewish psyop we have now. is wanting legal protection somehow bad?
(DIR) Post #AE2yCq6Gw4wrnoZbkW by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:56:13.050368Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada I am aware that you want divorce to be more equitable and you want to use a prenup to achieve that. You believe that through a prenup you can implement some of the carrots and sticks that don't exist for men but already exist to womenIt's not that I don't understand. I disagree
(DIR) Post #AE2yVYVYZEQQk9KBCy by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:59:35.771663Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada no. im not looking to utilize divorce for anything. i never plan on getting divorced. however. im also not trying to intentionally putting myself in a position to be used. i love how you all assume the worst from me.
(DIR) Post #AE2zELLIMZGIwUshG4 by philmchawk@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:57:39.442019Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern Accuse your enemy of what you yourself are guilty of.
(DIR) Post #AE2zELlWn2FIFr9e9A by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:07:41.752565Z
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@philmchawk @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern I read your post. The only thing remotely related to responding to my point was "Is/Ought". However, if you understood (or had asked for clarification) you would realise that you missed the point once again.We are having a discussion of ought based on a religious ideal. Your attempt at describing other cultures, other animals, the biological underpinning of what you think informs marriage (even though, as has been repeated mentioned, Christian marriage includes unnatural elements) are completely missing the point.
(DIR) Post #AE305Fyj2LilecYV60 by philmchawk@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:59:56.333305Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @Chance @Christ_is_Lord What does any of that have to do with christianity? Do East Asian or do they not also practice that (and in the case of Bushido to the Nth degree, literally their lives on the line unlike christianity)? Your christian view refuses to attribute anything good to anything other than christainity.
(DIR) Post #AE305GVh3m5nIrypU0 by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:17:15.193593Z
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@philmchawk @TinyFern @AR-15 @Chance You're the one who keeps assuming that we are making exclusive claims. We are just taking about a specific thing
(DIR) Post #AE30G2xRmtCsSO6QU4 by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:19:12.723991Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada I'm not assuming that you want to get divorced. I know you don't want to get used. You want the same protections that apply to women to apply to men. You think the current system punishes men, and you want a prenup that will assure that the party at fault for divorce is punished instead
(DIR) Post #AE30Jvb75vXWmuVUdE by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:19:52.968631Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada yes. how in any way is that wrong?
(DIR) Post #AE30XxuLInrO0UC8OG by philmchawk@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:12:11.895455Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern >We are having a discussion of ought based on a religious ideal. I don't need an ought based on religious ideal because I have an is in the form of Bushido. >Your attempt at describing other cultures, other animals, the biological underpinning of what you think informs marriage (even though, as has been repeated mentioned, Christian marriage includes unnatural elements) are completely missing the point.You are just being a leftists by making sure your talking point is nebulous so I can't btfo it with examples. It feels the same as when leftists talk about racism.
(DIR) Post #AE30XybEjKAg9WGOFU by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:22:26.715711Z
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@philmchawk @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern > I don't need an ought based on religious ideal because I have an is in the form of Bushido. It's not about you. It's about a Christian wanting a Christian marriage in a legal system that's opposed to the Christian idea of marriage. Pull your head out of your ass.> You are just being a leftists by making sure your talking point is nebulousnow you're just being silly. I've clearly laid out what my alternative would be (to using a prenup) and I've said what my idea legal structure would be. I've been extremely clear, you're just having a completely different discussion to everyone else
(DIR) Post #AE30hqc7HAVyHTNjaS by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:24:14.295001Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada Since the beginning I have said that I understand what you are doing and why you want to do it. I don't think you are a bad person. But I don't think that is the way to go about achieving the desired outcome (a life long happy monogamy Christian marriage). You're not evil, your approach is sub optimal
(DIR) Post #AE30nHDHo5tOE3MAAi by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:25:12.600456Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada im just trying to find the best way to navigate this shit world.
(DIR) Post #AE30quCLJppS0He5RI by The_man_plan@shitposter.club
2021-12-04T03:25:53.015640Z
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@Christ_is_LordCock@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada
(DIR) Post #AE30wvkcSTsQYbYE9Q by philmchawk@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:19:04.126171Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern A specific thing you cannot define beyond "love, submissiveness, and devotion" as though Samurai and Bushido didn't do all those things a hundred times better than christianity. Your women and men have absolutely no skin in the game while they literally do.
(DIR) Post #AE30wwHEVDxsBkoGzA by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:26:57.570159Z
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@philmchawk @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern You have not asked me to define a Christian marriage. You just keep sperging out and changing the topic. It might be interesting to discuss what drives culture to have certain marriage custom. It might be interesting to discuss what is unique about Christian marriage compared to other cultures. But that's not what we are talking about. And once more rather than addressing my point you just insult
(DIR) Post #AE3115Fh4iRFBP4Alc by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:27:42.668786Z
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@Chance @TinyFern @AR-15 Consider instead why you think you need a prenup, do you expect to be divorced? do you expect to marry someone you don't trust at all? do you expect your marriage to fall apart?Sure you're trying to hedge your bets in case the worst happens, but in doing so you're telling your would be wife that you don't have any confidence in her at all and expect the marriage to fail before it's begun.
(DIR) Post #AE31Jh9usRVHxfEqye by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:31:04.699971Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada It's awful, it's shit, there is lots that is wrong and irredeemable. Where you an I disagree, I think, is that you view it as bad all over. I don't, I think there are pockets of good and resistance. I can't remember if it was you or the other guy who I was talking to recently, but they, and maybe you view women (in general, if not entirely) are degenerate thots, and that finding a virgin Christian woman over 20 is impossible. I disagreeI believe that it is possible for a good Christian man to find a good Christian woman and get married and not get divorced. That doesn't do much good to the average Joe, but it's the first step and you aren't called to be the average NPC
(DIR) Post #AE31LF0gVNA1Epepuq by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:31:20.949713Z
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@Chance @Christ_is_Lord @TinyFern @rikkatakarada I get it but the answer is to make a marriage that is a rock of sanity in a sea of shit. Two wrongs don't make a right, they keep your life from getting wrecked but you want to steer clear of shallow water in the first place. The best answer isn't a legal solution--it's a person. She's out there and her heart weeps for what other women have done to you, because she deserves your love and your trust and she will earn it.
(DIR) Post #AE31LKzqFQ3FnxJFR2 by JSDorn@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:31:22.386530Z
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@cirnog @Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern absolutely.
(DIR) Post #AE31MM1Rv1lrHBXvBg by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:31:33.456135Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern why do women not want a prenup? is she just trying to use me and dip? does she want to make sure that if i fail she can take all my stuff and leave? due to this system. no prenup = prenup for women. the only and i mean ONLY difference is that women dont have to ask for it. and even with a prenup men are still disadvantaged. i do see your point. but still. someone who is violently anti-prenup is a red flag. if she is okay with a basic prenup that tells me i dont even need it.
(DIR) Post #AE31v1gtVEoyM2Srdw by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:36:24.593987Z
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@cirnog @Chance @AR-15 Nah he's using his own life to make a retarded political point out of resentment. This is like the articles suggesting that white people need to stop reading to their kids to stop them from having an advantage at school because muh racism.
(DIR) Post #AE31v2503c6TYnk7DU by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:37:49.151010Z
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@TinyFern hey
(DIR) Post #AE320SPrZARAgo5WNs by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:38:47.845085Z
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@cirnog @Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern Nah. You should absolutely have a prenup. Do not give the woman power over you by having the ability to steal your money. Fully trusting your wife like that, for life, is retarded.That said, prenups should not be necessary, not because you should somehow absolutely have faith in her, but because women shouldn't have the ability to make the choice to divorce men to begin with.The system of marriage we have is gay and unnatural, and as such you have to make sure it works to your advantage.
(DIR) Post #AE320mQbA8uQksaOJ6 by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:38:51.832311Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern Because it's insulting to be told "I don't trust you enough to not divorce me". Think of it like this, imagine you had a daughter and you told her that you had a detailed plan to torture to death any man that rapes her, do you think that would make her feel comfortable? No she'd wonder why you're even preparing for such an awful thing to happen instead of doing everything in your power to keep her safe.>but the divorce courts are biased against menAbsolutely true which is why you want to do everything you can to stay away from them, dedicate your life to this because you need to keep your family together.
(DIR) Post #AE323mBSWjJirmvvX6 by philmchawk@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:38:38.403657Z
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@Christ_is_Lord @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern The conservation was about prenups and you said you don't need them because christianity magically fixes the need. You then go on to say marriage is only a christian thing. I disproved both those point and now you are accusing me of "changing the topic" because you lost. I have not insulted you once, never called you a nigger adopter, christcuck, nigger feetwasher, none of it because I have nothing against christainity beyond christians lying and taking all White accomplishment for themselves. Woman have failed their station in the west so they get the prenup so they have skin in the game. Their skin the game is still way below any other culture so they should stfu about it (or be submissive about it to make it nice and christian).
(DIR) Post #AE32AvVeFjgnogmo0O by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:40:41.675973Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern And all women are fundamentally the same. Their nature doesn't change. What changes is what conditions they are in, which you cannot completely control and condition or predict.The idea of "well she's the one so she's never gonna divorce you" is retarded, as is blaming men for divorce. Divorce by a woman is always illegitimate.
(DIR) Post #AE32E88TlUOlqSTc1I by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:41:16.454515Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @Chance chance is young and understandably sees how everything in society is designed to fuck him over, the problem is he's taking his distrust and putting onto every women he could possibly meet, which makes marriage difficult since it needs trust above all else.
(DIR) Post #AE32FRsLrGDlMBYtGa by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:41:30.727630Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern and its NOT insulting to men to tell them "nah if i decide to leave your ass for tyrone i want all your shit to come with me"? turn it around. damn this girl doesnt trust me enough to marry me with a prenup because she thinks i use it to leave her. its the same fucking coin
(DIR) Post #AE32Pc2Ovkavln6oOe by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:43:20.973494Z
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@rein @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern I fully agree that this is an awful situation and divorce shouldn't be allowed at all. The problem is you're taking your distrust of the legal system and shoving it in your fiancées face and giving her a permanent reminder that you don't trust her.
(DIR) Post #AE32ZS016l8fX2gWMy by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:44:53.317682Z
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@dew_the_dew Hi
(DIR) Post #AE32ZSaAwK3vLBbOjI by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:45:07.684653Z
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@TinyFern check ur fuckin chat yo
(DIR) Post #AE32hx6zJgqiLH01tw by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:46:40.008821Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern That is perfectly acceptable, and it is how it should be. If she doesn't accept that she shouldn't have any power over you, then don't marry her. She must accept that I set the terms of our marriage, and if she doesn't, it's not gonna work. Period.Marriage as it is in the law is gay already, as it is emasculating to the man, to accept that she can divorce and take your money is in itself a reason why a woman should divorce you. You are taking, willingly, the role of a slave to her whims.
(DIR) Post #AE32k5vvUO1kHTqZcm by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:47:03.265657Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern >and its NOT insulting to men to tell them "nah if i decide to leave your ass for tyrone i want all your shit to come with me"?You're assuming your relationship with her is so poor that she would consider thinking that in the first place.Is the current situation shit? yes. Will creating a self-fulfilling prophecy of divorce keep you from getting divorced? probably not.
(DIR) Post #AE32xAyo2PDFhGQpCy by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:49:25.033327Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern >You're assuming your relationship with her is so poor that she would consider thinking that in the first place.now say that again but the other way and you solved your prenup problem. everything here literally goes both ways. the prenup is just the mans version of what women have by default. except not as good. do you see whats happening here?
(DIR) Post #AE32yH9oYUQH966Zo8 by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:47:24.338945Z
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@rein @cirnog @AR-15 @Chance Imagine taking advice from a guy who says that it's stupid to trust your wife. Literally why get married if that's your attitude
(DIR) Post #AE32yHns9YSv9KqZFI by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:49:36.660782Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @Chance @cirnog In order to make children, have a family, and fulfil your duty as a man.Yes, you should absolutely not trust your wife with a power a woman isn't meant to have and cannot handle. It is unnatural, and against the Will of God.
(DIR) Post #AE330MFGbqQxVMeFiS by Christ_is_Lord@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:49:59.747168Z
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@philmchawk @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern I don't think we are going to find common ground. I didn't say Christianity magically fixes the problem. Nothing of the sort. I don't think I can tell you any more clearly that, yes I am aware of other cultures and animals have marriage, but we are talking about Christian marriage so bringing up Bushido and whether or not they have a conception of devotion is irrelevant.Unless you respond to my central point, that naturalistic answers aren't appropriate for guiding spiritual decisions, I am no longer going to respond to you. I'll pray for you
(DIR) Post #AE334cOcVEmOkp3Rwm by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:50:45.807721Z
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@rein @TinyFern @AR-15 @cirnog men are supposed to be in control. marriage by default gives everything to women. its an insult. a prenup is a poor attempt to reverse that. which of course women dont like because 99% of them are control freaks. as seen in every marriage ever except maybe one.
(DIR) Post #AE338WHZAwvgx1cEYC by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:51:28.194486Z
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@rein @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern Look if you say to someone "sign this agreement that will get you dragged in court when you inevitably betray me" you're both not going to ever really trust eachother.
(DIR) Post #AE339Bb9Z1xV5e5xGy by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:51:35.411307Z
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@cirnog @TinyFern @Chance So true! I've been there before and would still be though if I hadn't met my girlfriend so there still is hope for him.
(DIR) Post #AE33AqsPZrxrOzxgyO by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:51:08.028214Z
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@rein @AR-15 @Chance @cirnog All men are the same so all men will eventually cheat on their wives.Women should get to buy a big knife to store in the front room labelled "to cut his dick off if he cheats" next to a signed contract where the husband agrees to get his dick cut off if he cheats. All men beat their wives too. Better add a clause where he gets an arm cut off if he hits her. This is basically feminist talking points. Neither your views nor feminist ones actually value men or women, you're designing your whole life defensively in fear of the worst excesses of the other. We're saying you shouldn't start a marriage in fear and mistrust.
(DIR) Post #AE33LAJo9EYsb0h5tI by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:51:28.693561Z
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@dew_the_dew I have a chat?
(DIR) Post #AE33LAwRpZTCWqlx7Q by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:53:45.185403Z
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@TinyFern
(DIR) Post #AE33OebfzfCLOyiPjM by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:54:23.105816Z
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@cirnog @rein @AR-15 @TinyFern thats literally the default marriage contract my guy
(DIR) Post #AE33UUwmovB7BHNNtQ by wizard_problems@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:54:55.638901Z
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@dew_the_dew @TinyFern
(DIR) Post #AE33d7h0eJRhfH6q4u by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:56:58.965912Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @Chance @cirnog No, it's not feminist talking points, you're the only one taking feminist talking points, and you're trying to argue that an opposite point is the same. That's some horseshoe nonsense. Besides I didn't say all woman will betray you, I said all women have the same nature as women, which they do. I treat women as women, and men as men.There is no woman that I would trust with a power women are not meant to have, which it is immoral for them to have. If your relationship starts that way, it is already a wrong relationship, and not as it should be between a man and a woman. You are completely delusional, keep repeating nonsense about "trust" and arguing further with someone who lives in an alternate reality is pointless.
(DIR) Post #AE33rg2TkOZWF45ils by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:59:37.829981Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern She is to accept the terms I set.That is how the marriage should be, and if she has a problem with it, then the relationship is already not as it should be. The woman must obey the man and father of the house.If she objects to these terms then the marriage should not happen to begin with.
(DIR) Post #AE33xh20yCpZ3dk7Ki by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:00:42.437340Z
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@rein @cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern my proposed solution is that religious marriage should be completely separated from legal marriage. solves everything. marriage should not be a state issue
(DIR) Post #AE33zUvUwoAO5rYUj2 by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:01:02.388634Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein I also thought of making a joke about that :cirno_laughing: But just step back for a second and try to see things from her point of view, this man she's considering spending her life with is saying he doesn't trust her and thinks she's the kind of gold digging whore who will ruin her kids lives for fun. Is she more inclined to stay with that man?>but my concerns override hers and I don't have any legal protectionThats understandable but it does nothing to help with her concerns, and it's her concerns that will make her leave you.
(DIR) Post #AE340T3jNKP2alrut6 by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:01:13.194838Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog My solution is that marriage is restored to how it was, instead of the gay marriage of today where men and women are equal.
(DIR) Post #AE348hsk9GF0sferCq by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:02:42.544937Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein >lay tf down and take it in the ass bitch boyhonest translation
(DIR) Post #AE34BTDv6XmmHrsgSG by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:03:12.439933Z
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@cirnog @Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern If she decides to leave you after that, you did well to sign the prenup. If she actually behaved as a good Christian wife, she would not leave her husband for any reason, as she would see that it is wrong and against the will of God.Your own argument is self-defeating.
(DIR) Post #AE34ID5XUdRyGvAtQO by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:04:25.588899Z
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@rein @cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern its almost like... she should TRUST you like that other lady was saying. this entire this boiled down to >men need to trust women... OMG DONT TURN IT AROUND AND DEMAND WOMEN TRUST MEN
(DIR) Post #AE34JDOpozixWigB6m by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:04:36.397819Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern In any case, once I marry there will be no argument for the prenup, as I am wealthy, and a prenup is guaranteed for such a marriage in any case. It's a problem that this isn't the default
(DIR) Post #AE34MlrU9HMVHHmAJE by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:05:14.701466Z
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@rein @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog must be nice. i am not rich. im just smart with money so i have some stuff. but still pretty low down the pole
(DIR) Post #AE34NMK6aLe6MTRWuu by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:05:21.361027Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog Yes, his argument rests on a pozzed view of marriage where men and women should be equal, which is wrong.The entire reasoning is wrong on those grounds also.
(DIR) Post #AE34VbF8zsIwx43Hd2 by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:06:50.732765Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog It is good to make do with what you have, but make sure it isn't taken from you, the little you do have.
(DIR) Post #AE34g2U4ZTgMKj0qDw by philmchawk@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:25:32.694064Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @Chance @Christ_is_Lord Also our timelines are different, this didn't start in the 50's it start in the 1600's when people were so christian they killed 40% of Whites.
(DIR) Post #AE359Pf1TpRoc18nbs by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:14:02.480045Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein if you insult people and say you don't trust them they will respond badly even if they're women. I don't make the rules.
(DIR) Post #AE35HP2XfhNh0Ix4Ua by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:15:29.076641Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein why dont women trust men enough to get married with a prenup? its almost like neither party really wants to trust each other or fully commit. women love it how it is because it gives them endless leverage. of course they would get mad about a prenup because it removes their leverage and power over the marriage.
(DIR) Post #AE35HrmEpOZS88Xxbc by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:15:34.199129Z
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@cirnog @Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern If she doesn't accept your authority then she is not your wife.
(DIR) Post #AE35NgOI4gumYP7Qtk by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:16:37.224438Z
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@rein @Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern >you shouldn't marry a woman you don't trust>telling a woman you will never trust her will make her distrust you backThat's my argument. No equality involved.
(DIR) Post #AE35SOMcWf525maDpo by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:17:28.187638Z
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@cirnog @rein @AR-15 @TinyFern so you admit the entire idea of marriage now relies on men bending over?
(DIR) Post #AE35bwwDLjJ9vbn0VM by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:19:11.445907Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern Yes, that's exactly your argument. You are arguing that the relationship between a husband and wife is that of equals and this entire trust nonsense literally boils down to that. Re-read the words you just wrote. She must accept these unequal terms, or she isn't your wife.And it is good that she knows you are not a fool and will not let yourself be screwed by her.
(DIR) Post #AE35cgWbrG9vJWACyu by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:19:19.748434Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein because you are outright saying you don't trust her. This isn't complicated.
(DIR) Post #AE35sC2kxHsnPVax0a by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:22:07.837782Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein i admit it's a shit show that isn't inproved by saying "I will never trust you"
(DIR) Post #AE35wi37tqY9pjvCSW by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:22:56.815529Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein now hold up. the current system puts it all on men. women dont have to worry about anything because they can just leave at any time and take everything with them. how is it showing distrust by saying "fuck you" to the system and disabling that imbalance of power? like i said. >take it in the ass bitch boyessentially the only way a marriage can work now is if men bend over and eat shit because women are so fragile they think its a trust issue when you tell the system to fuck off. so ill again turn it around. if she doesnt like prenups thats because she doesnt trust the man to not divorce her. this is a power issue. if she truly trusted the man she would be fine with a prenup. DO YA SEE WHAT IM GETTING AT?
(DIR) Post #AE364gVDXEXvLurbpQ by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:24:23.139154Z
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@cirnog @Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern And? Yes, you should not trust her unconditionally. Making her know that you will not let yourself be screwed financially by her, and that she must trust you and not the other way around is conducive to a good, correct relationship in marriage.She must know her place.Again, the man and the woman are not equal. Your argument rests on the idea that they are, and that the relationship is symmetric. It's not.
(DIR) Post #AE365NhmuN9RLM4ktM by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:24:30.365390Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein why is it so hard for you to comprehend the other side? if men dont get married without a prenup its a "trust issue" but if women dont get married with a prenup its not a trust issue? women will only trust men in marriage if he gives her all the power and leverage. basically. she has to be in complete control of his entire life otherwise "he isnt trusting her" >bend over bitch boy its time for your pegging session
(DIR) Post #AE366lPKGlU1906E3U by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:24:45.746965Z
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@rein @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern Married couples should trust eachother, when you tell someone you don't trust them they react badly. That's the argument im not repeating it any more.
(DIR) Post #AE369t0CUMelZFptpI by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:25:19.765105Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern And the argument is complete nonsense, and I've already explained why. Yes, please do not repeat it for the nth time like a broken record
(DIR) Post #AE36C1Qg80GiHbEuQK by mystik@shitposter.club
2021-12-04T04:25:43.481482Z
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@Chance @Crux_Invictus @AR-15 @TinyFern @rikkatakarada Inviting the State into your private life is always a terrible idea.
(DIR) Post #AE36DFlYJI7j2LaeVk by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:25:56.308643Z
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@rein @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern all you've done is ignore what I've said.
(DIR) Post #AE36FvRmJOwMt5cCjg by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:26:25.175052Z
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@cirnog @rein @AR-15 @TinyFern so why cant women trust a man in marriage with a paper that says "i wont take your shit and run"? why is this entire burden placed solely on men? do you not see this issue????
(DIR) Post #AE36QDTy6zmTidXxj6 by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:28:16.755279Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern Not at all. I directly respond to it, and you keep repeating it. And you're wrong every time, fundamentally.No, she must trust you and obey you. No, you should not trust her unconditionally. Conditionally, yes.But she is a woman and must be treated as a woman, and it wrong for a woman to have the ability to divorce you to begin with, even worse to have an incentive.Telling her to sign a prenup is a perfectly acceptable treatment, and if she deems it unacceptable then she isn't acting like your wife should.Men and women are not equal, and the relationship is not symmetric. You would not trust a child with a gun, you should not trust a woman with your money, period.
(DIR) Post #AE36XRvQoNwUXXqDjM by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:25:57.795720Z
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@dew_the_dew my husband set me up on the husky app which doesn't have access to chats He's sent me instructions on going to the browser instead 😅
(DIR) Post #AE36XSQGxic25CGqno by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:29:35.284040Z
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@TinyFern i don't know if i'm more suprised that you're a gril or that your husband allowed you to be on poast
(DIR) Post #AE36vZlvI1EXpGtkbg by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:33:56.983122Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein a marriage is not a declaration to divorce, a prenup is an expectation of divorce.you two are both creating a self fulfilling prophecy where your distrust justifies her distrust
(DIR) Post #AE371le43f76O6Atfc by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:35:04.094376Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein so we created a system where men get fucked. women like it and get offended when you try to fix it. so the answer is to just keep getting fucked?
(DIR) Post #AE378DbP1keopg0Q3U by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:36:13.939914Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein Listen if you're unable to look at this from another person's perspective then you should get a prenup because you will get divorced and you will never understand why it happened.
(DIR) Post #AE37EobCO4VzJU3X1M by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:37:20.885316Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein no. you are the one who cannot see any other perspective. you sit here and retell the womans perspective while telling men to eat dick.
(DIR) Post #AE37JOnPkX2AjbxIUS by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:38:15.390039Z
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@cirnog @Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern Her decision to divorce you is not justified in any such situation. If she is the good Christian woman you are arguing she would be, who does as God intends her to, then she does not divorce you, period. If you admit that she would divorce you following a prenup, then that means she is not the virtuous God fearing woman you think she is, which invalidates the entire argument of trusting her.There is no argument to be made that divorce is somehow justified because she doesn't think you "trust" her. I must've missed this chapter in the Bible.
(DIR) Post #AE37NcZeSthWcnX0Pg by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:39:00.935617Z
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@Chance @cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern Yes, he has a very cucked and feminist view of marriage, and a bluepilled view of women unfortunately.
(DIR) Post #AE37SJ5EMHH3ciXJtg by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:39:51.837533Z
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@rein @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern Rein, I distrust you, I suspect you're a gold digging whore, please sign an agreement saying you acknowledge how much I distrust you. Now please spend your life with me and trust me completely. Sincerely Cirnog.Do you trust me rein?
(DIR) Post #AE37WKHDrZomU13ueu by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:40:35.272264Z
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@cirnog @rein @AR-15 @TinyFern the default marriage contract once again
(DIR) Post #AE37WVrQnIJkPV5U7k by mystik@shitposter.club
2021-12-04T04:40:37.900019Z
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@Chance @cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein >"so we created a system where men get fucked"I didn't know you were a chosen one. Sabath Shalom, my brother.
(DIR) Post #AE37XB9FHxveScjn5E by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:40:44.549049Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern If she is a woman, she must accept these terms, yes. I am not a woman, I am a man.
(DIR) Post #AE37d3uJ7hr9jzYVyS by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:41:48.464217Z
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@mystik @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein that not what i meant. im not jewish
(DIR) Post #AE37fPWxhNvtNrkvr6 by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:42:12.715506Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein I'm very familiar with your perspective, sometimes I think of taking out my grievances with the government on people I personally know, then I remember that doesn't make my grievances go away and just makes the people I care about think I'm a dick.
(DIR) Post #AE37lyG1UxDQpBxeSW by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:43:25.143741Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein once again. >bend over bitch boyany other solution is mean to womens feelings
(DIR) Post #AE37ryAYjrsgHyGXaa by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:44:30.125323Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein Do you understand that marriage is only a bad thing if you get divorced and you are predicating all your opinions on the expectation that you will get divorced? do you understand how counter productive this is?
(DIR) Post #AE381praTWLRQM61z6 by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:46:17.207155Z
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@cirnog @Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern It is not just a matter of getting divorced or not getting divorced. It's a matter of not letting a women have that power over you. Only if she doesn't have the ability to screw you over, and she accepts that she is your wife and must obey you, is the relationship like that between husband and wife. It is actually better if you have a prenup, regardless of the divorce aspect.
(DIR) Post #AE382oWmvSx7ZVpmXA by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:46:27.784030Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein theres an inherent power shift to women in this modern marriage contract that is insulting to my existence.
(DIR) Post #AE3848kREWauZaqqC8 by DrRyanSkelton@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:46:42.176799Z
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@rein @cirnog @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern Oh the one side, men DO have to risk it all in war and/or in love. It is our lot in life and if you want to achieve greatness at SOME point you have to put it all on the table where you could lose it all. ESPECIALLY in romance. You cannot reduce romance to a system you can game and hedge for or else you won't achieve it.That said, a prenup attempts to change the incentives of a broken system to avoid allowing someone to be tempted with cash prizes for choosing sinful behavior where all the other disincentives of familial and social shame have fallen away. To NOT get a prenup is akin to expecting her to be fine with all your porn books lying around. (Having books of porn in this day and age looool.)I don't know what the correct answer is because both arguments are really strong.
(DIR) Post #AE38A8Td9cBZTBqfdw by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:47:46.964635Z
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@DrRyanSkelton @rein @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog i dont understand the porn book part. but okay
(DIR) Post #AE38HIjFR6UlICZPd2 by DrRyanSkelton@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:49:04.811780Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein Temptation to sin with no consequence and high chance of reward. It's not the most apt metaphor but at this time of night it's the best you are getting out of me.
(DIR) Post #AE38IKc1v0kVQLgYGO by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:49:16.073578Z
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@DrRyanSkelton @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @cirnog Men already risk a lot in marriage while gaining pretty much nothing in the current system, even with a prenup. More important than protecting your physical property, marriage should protect your right to your wife, and for her children to be yours and not another man's, but that isn't the case in this day and age.
(DIR) Post #AE38Rg57Sx38cEkSUS by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:50:57.028253Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein Having a "good" divorce doesn't get rid of that power shift and building a relationship on distrust wont solve it either.
(DIR) Post #AE38chTWcnOm7iQ5r6 by mystik@shitposter.club
2021-12-04T04:52:57.311333Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein oh, but you said "we created"... Anyway, this whole topic... problem is feminism. The State doesn't care if you allow them or not into your life, they will mess with you anyway, under the pretense of protecting oppressed defenseless women that deserve reparations for millennia of being beaten up by male oppressors.Only way to defeat the System is creating an environment where the System itself is regarded as uncool, and a conservative life is regarded as cool. That's the only thing women care about ― face, peer pressure.
(DIR) Post #AE38fB9fFP12kiJPHM by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:53:23.699295Z
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@rein @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern Why would she obey you if you don't trust her? you've told her outright you expect her to divorce you so why would she doubt your infinite wisdom? You're making contradictory demands.
(DIR) Post #AE38fKOssBXPQWVBke by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:53:25.324064Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein im not planning for divorce. your soy is showing. take away trust. im still not wanting to power shift.
(DIR) Post #AE38o3j8EYBeJz8UvA by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:55:00.210439Z
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@mystik @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein yeah too bad we dont live in that world. we live in today. where divorce is a prize for women
(DIR) Post #AE38o8w4rqVsTaEPIG by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:55:01.104246Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein bruh a prenup is literally a divorce plan
(DIR) Post #AE38qmdIFIvwAohime by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:55:29.715283Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein and a standard marriage contract is a plan for divorce for women. it literally incentivizes it
(DIR) Post #AE38sTGDF5rOfdiGsy by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:55:47.948714Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern She should obey me because she is my wife, and that is what a wife should do.Whether I trust her or not, has nothing to do with it, nor does it justify divorce.Once again, you keep arguing from the frame that husband and wife should be equal. They are not.If she decides she is justified in divorcing because of this, then that is a good reason to either not marry her, or at least put this in place.But it is inherently a more just arrangement to have a prenup. If she cannot accept it, then she cannot accept her position as a woman. The marriage is not a marriage, it's gay marriage.
(DIR) Post #AE38uaFiDYIWw1UDnE by DrRyanSkelton@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:56:10.899100Z
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@rein @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @cirnog For manhood the game is no limit, no matter what game you're playing. The taxman, the industry, the markets, war, love, there is no limit on what you'll have to end up risking... well, except out of war the lowest place you can go is back on your parent's couch and trying to finesse money from the govt. Or maybe you're stuck in an IRL game of Minecraft at the end of it and you know exactly who put you there. If you can accept ending up any of those places, what do you have to fear? Until we control society, there is no fairness you may appeal to.
(DIR) Post #AE391tF017tNqzdY4e by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:57:30.144041Z
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@rein @cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern i like this. it makes a lot more sense than >TRUST WOMEN REEE
(DIR) Post #AE39BYafeM8uhfNoW0 by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T04:59:15.063281Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog His argument is "Believe Women" lmao
(DIR) Post #AE39FpRcvdMo8MBpi4 by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:00:00.634549Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein Okay you expect to be divorced and think trust is impossible, you will go out of your way to fulfil your prophecy. Enjoy the divorce.
(DIR) Post #AE39KqKH4xHCJc8qvY by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:00:55.273941Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein bro. how are you not seeing what im saying (lol)? i dont expect to be divorced. i just think marriage as it stands is fucking retarded
(DIR) Post #AE39RNRMsCauktZjiC by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:02:06.413007Z
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@rein @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog that has never worked ever
(DIR) Post #AE39Zt8UuhEDNGo7bU by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:03:38.678174Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein >marriage is a divorce contract>I want a prenup for when i get divorced>no women can ever be trusted not even my wifeself fulfilling prophecy.
(DIR) Post #AE39gWn8O8wW6JysVM by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:04:50.752429Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein marriage incentivizes divorce. a prenup removes that incentive. but somehow prenup bad?
(DIR) Post #AE39hUGxEuqwZtO1g0 by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:05:01.008950Z
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@cirnog @Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern I'll put more trust in a woman that is not being paid to betray me, thank you.And again, if her being with me is contingent on her whims as you keep implying, then I absolutely should not trust her.
(DIR) Post #AE39tbw2ZkwtonNwTw by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:07:12.742811Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein Distrust incentivizes divorce but you have no problem making your distrust legally binding.
(DIR) Post #AE39zSQ0s41C2aBzSS by TornadoOfTerror@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:07:12.196325Z
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@rein @cirnog @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern proud of my mikotoavibros
(DIR) Post #AE3AC0zMAMZ0jUiCYq by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:08:19.601833Z
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@cirnog @Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein PSA: In most jurisdictions these days, prenups don't mean shit - they either have so many outs that they can be voided a hundred different ways, or there are other mechanisms to bypass it anyway
(DIR) Post #AE3AC1UuH3niJLTOjo by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:10:32.184378Z
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@NiggerExpress @cirnog @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern I am aware of the issues, and you should absolutely research this for your jurisdiction, but you are too dismissive of them.They *do* work for rich people who know how to use them, you can observe this (Trump also divorced multiple women).One big caveat for poor people: the judge may decide you owe her enough money for her to at least supper herself regardless of prenup. This is less of a problem the richer you are.But look at rich men without prenup and you'll see some paying 100 million a year in alimony, or losing 44 billion dollars of their money.
(DIR) Post #AE3AH420HTezcLMEds by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:11:27.019563Z
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@NiggerExpress @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @rein That's the nuclear argument, that a woman in the current system can easily find advocacy groups that will help her convince the judge to throw your prenup in the trash unless you've got millions to burn on lawyers and even then it's not a given.The solution is to marry a woman you can trust to not divorce you, but these two think trust is impossible so...
(DIR) Post #AE3AUjrM4l0d6sthmC by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:13:55.144049Z
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@cirnog @NiggerExpress @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern You do not *trust* a woman with things she isn't meant to handle, or capable of handling, like your money, if you are a good husband, in the same way that no matter how much you love your child you will not trust him with a loaded gun if you are a good father.Finding a "woman you can trust" is not a solution - and you are simply delusional on women.And as I said, prenups do work, and they are often used for the purpose. They work better if you are rich, as they did for many rich men.
(DIR) Post #AE3Afqwq3rmsHPlJTs by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:15:37.066082Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @rein I told my wife (before we got married) that if she ever uses the government as a weapon against me, I will sell everything I can, burn everything I can't, leave the country and disappear forever. She knows I would, too.It's all about incentives, fellas. Instead of cash and prizes, she'd get NOTHING. Simple as.Don't even play the game if the rules only exist to fuck you over - get creative and make your own rules.
(DIR) Post #AE3B1YA8aObIO9KQRU by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:19:49.626434Z
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@NiggerExpress @cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein ill get married without a prenup. but if divorce comes up. someone is going missing. and its not me.
(DIR) Post #AE3BG7N8TSXpdxM3ZQ by quackerson@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:21:33.954788Z
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@NiggerExpress @cirnog @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @rein I will never understand this mentality. The most valuable resource is time. Nobody is getting those years back no matter what you burn. If you don't trust that person, you are wasting those years.
(DIR) Post #AE3BG7y0GO2FUIbV2G by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:22:27.788432Z
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@quackerson @NiggerExpress @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein hes removing the fucked up marriage systems incentives for women to divorce. makes a lot of sense
(DIR) Post #AE3BL04r1WxUT08Eds by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:22:25.348514Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein life insurance + back country kayaking + chance... now you get the cash and prizes...but then who will breastfeed
(DIR) Post #AE3BL0YHG8UhwFtjVI by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:23:21.121092Z
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@NiggerExpress @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein ill find a new one. or hire someone to do it. im not getting a divorce. and since i cant have legal protection. ill have illegal protection
(DIR) Post #AE3BON2G7e4CXTWc76 by MechaSilvio@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:23:56.359352Z
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@rein @NiggerExpress @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @cirnog do it just to have another tool in the toolbox
(DIR) Post #AE3BW64d4NZmFXJloG by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:25:03.312277Z
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@quackerson @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @cirnog @rein I trust, but I removed the incentives the government will dangle in front of her face for the rest of her lifeWhat about the time spent not making babies? You don't get that back either. I can always marry with a wider age gap, sure. It's not quite as urgent for men as it is for women, but we ain't getting any younger either fella
(DIR) Post #AE3CAHK0fWzIiafj7Y by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:30:49.145212Z
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@rein @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @cirnog Also depends on how you structure things. Some super-rich people don't technically own much at all except liabilities. They control vast wealth, just not in their name personally.I took legal advice on this in my jurisdiction, and it was basically pointless. Regardless, I won't see a day in court even in the worst case scenario. So I've solved the problem without the legal fees and BS. We either resolve things as a family, within the family, or we don't have a family and any assets accrued etc disappear like they never existed (except the debts, they'd remain but I'd be gone - in fact there'd be a whole lot of new debt to help me set up my new life)
(DIR) Post #AE3CAHkF5zyI1wwg0e by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:32:25.223010Z
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@rein @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @cirnog fuck I'm a mad dog... so over the top. Clown world did this to me
(DIR) Post #AE3CAuynDpmdiN3LbU by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:32:45.036242Z
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@NiggerExpress @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein no you good
(DIR) Post #AE3CK4eubVNOLC7UTQ by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:34:04.999605Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein 😂
(DIR) Post #AE3CK58Kq6uboRszKq by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:34:24.141824Z
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@NiggerExpress @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein yessir. i said it and i meant it.
(DIR) Post #AE3CSg2lUa9ibWNZ9U by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:35:42.300048Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein I'd rape any man that tried to sleep with my wife. Faggot had it coming.
(DIR) Post #AE3CWvmwtYMuav0f9U by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:36:43.667997Z
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@NiggerExpress @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein if your wife consents to sex with someone else she isnt worth keeping. he might not even know she is married. she might have lied her way into his bed. kill her first. ask him questions later.
(DIR) Post #AE3CeiGj2qaCyqeFU0 by intrax@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:38:07.940920Z
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@NiggerExpress @cirnog @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @rein true solution right here. Get creative to ensure divorce is not an option.I have no idea if prenups cover this, but I'm gonna have a document that says any and all divorce papers must be signed underwater in a shark infested pool.
(DIR) Post #AE3ChKwUEEFHVHQt4C by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:38:36.115603Z
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@intrax @NiggerExpress @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein based. i support this
(DIR) Post #AE3D8fdHPX1NUYTyxE by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:43:01.746191Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein obviously she'd die, thought that goes without saying
(DIR) Post #AE3DAhNLtv9DTe02ca by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:43:54.741590Z
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@NiggerExpress @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein based. okay. i dont need a prenup anymore. ill just do it the old fashioned way.
(DIR) Post #AE3DOirBBuLq7nddGC by wizard_problems@poa.st
2021-12-04T01:22:48.115334Z
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@Crux_Invictus really refreshing to see more trad takes that are honest and i guess, worldlyso many trad niggas LARP just for an excuse to be pious
(DIR) Post #AE3DYRbmAvK1We4LT6 by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:47:42.093694Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein Certified Master of Persuasionchoo choo nigger
(DIR) Post #AE3DZL2y3WkjSuDKzI by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:48:22.102465Z
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@NiggerExpress @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein FUCK I CANT DO THIS FUCKING MODERNITY SHIT ANYMORE
(DIR) Post #AE3DbsHFTeSl6f6SXo by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:48:49.312857Z
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@NiggerExpress @Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog Those were good times. Nowadays he just persuades himself into taking more booster shots up his ass
(DIR) Post #AE3DdRfNO2Ol9a8b7Q by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:48:59.765319Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein My work here is done.Remember, kids: all blacks are gay and all gays are black.Merry Christmas
(DIR) Post #AE3DgRZSCMB9j4nUi8 by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:49:38.943524Z
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@NiggerExpress @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein thanks master. you solved my problems. now she can trust me and i can trust her and if she breaks my heart i know what to do
(DIR) Post #AE3DqGJusmbjjFDBXk by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:45:57.662094Z
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@intrax @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @cirnog @rein seems desperate. She won't want to leave if you're worth staying with. You just need to fix the side of the equation where she might be fooled into thinking she'd be better off with cash and prizes (many experience regret decades later - but can't fix what they did to themselves and their family)
(DIR) Post #AE3DqGjRLt1Z0P9ZKK by quackerson@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:50:48.797109Z
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@NiggerExpress @intrax @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @cirnog @rein NGL I don't think I'd want to marry a woman who behaves in the way you claim you are acting. It's creepy and kind of controlling. If it works for you, great I don't think that's a good approach for most people though.
(DIR) Post #AE3DqHEzSaGGaFulVI by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:51:24.215112Z
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@quackerson @NiggerExpress @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @intrax @rein well hes married so hes betyter than me
(DIR) Post #AE3EIhFGMzQfLLarYW by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:52:32.413624Z
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@rein @cirnog @AR-15 @Chance I know you're just gonna dunk on this because wahmen but I'm going to say it anyway. Men and women are equally people deserving of trust, respect and love. Men and women have different roles within marriage which have different authority and responsibility. Men have the authority and responsibility of the whole household. Women love and obey their husbands because they trust and respect them. Husbands love and serve their wives because they trust and love them. I am aware the current system is biased against men. I am also aware that prenups do nearly nothing to counteract that system so they're basically a symbolic protest against gold diggers. Bugging your fiance's phone or doing paternity tests on every kid is a rational way of addressing statistical risk. However, YOU ARE NOT A STATISTIC. You're a real person and she will be too. When you treat a future wife as though she has the same risk as some random bitch in the phone book, she's going to be offended. She will doubt that you really know or understand her. She will doubt whether you are emotionally healthy enough to engage in a relationship. Every marriage has risks. You don't know what life circumstances, such as mental illness, disability, tragedy, etc will arise in your life. When you marry somebody you're essentially saying that through good times and bad, thick and thin, through sleep deprivation and poverty and injustice and hurt, you will be with them. A prenup says that you don't trust her or that a symbolic gesture is more important than her. It tells her that she should worry about getting ugly or sick or old because your love is so incredibly conditional that you need separate, additional contracts to make you feel secure. If you look at the stats, marriages fall apart asymmetrically in the face of serious illness. Men get cancer and their wives help them through it. Women get cancer and their husbands leave them, particularly if it's breast cancer and they need a mastectomy. Are you going to leave your wife if she isn't young and pretty? If she needs a mastectomy and doesn't have enough tissue for a reconstruction? If she has complications during childbirth and sex is painful for her? If she is depressed and doesn't clean or cook like you want? Women aren't robots, they need to be cherished and protected. Yes, yes, men need to be supported as well - but the point of marriage is to be in a lifelong, selfless commitment. It doesn't sound like you want a wife to cherish and protect, it sounds like you want a servant (this is directed at the second guy, not you Chance). Nobody in this discussion is rich so why are you talking about rich people in marriages? How many middle class marriages end with the ex wife getting 90% of his paycheck? Or even 70%? You're talking about getting screwed by women and what a great deal they get but you've got no numbers to support it, just a burning resentment against rich trophy wives robbing their husbands with armies of lawyers. Don't let the Jewish idea of marriage live rent free in your head.
(DIR) Post #AE3ELfUBMqh0ktzNM8 by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:55:24.691997Z
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@Chance @quackerson @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @intrax @rein I'm probably older, you'll get there too inshallah
(DIR) Post #AE3EMbbzFzOl1u5QZc by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:51:47.630304Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein das rite
(DIR) Post #AE3EQjHcfzDfysWmNE by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:54:59.763444Z
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@quackerson @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @cirnog @intrax @rein finding it hard to follow what you've written thereThis is a conversation that only needs to be had once or maybe twice to set ground rules - with the option for her to walk right then if she doesn't accept those terms - not like I'm in her face every day threatening her. And not like an ultimato either, just that I have these values, this is where I draw the line of what I consider acceptable behaviour, if you agree we can continue, if you don't then don't let's waste each other's time
(DIR) Post #AE3EQjoEijJ7c1mpCy by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:57:49.675834Z
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@quackerson @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @cirnog @intrax @rein or are you one of those cucks that's like "you can't like OWN a person man, she can do what she wants. Her boyfriend and I get along well" or something like this?
(DIR) Post #AE3Epl6d2Kb2sDJui0 by quackerson@poa.st
2021-12-04T05:58:20.606896Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @NiggerExpress @TinyFern @cirnog @intrax @rein There are tons of lesser men who are married. People who you don't idolize and probably shouldn't strive to be. A woman doesn't define your worth nor your strength of character.
(DIR) Post #AE3EplYdMCzwH4QHMO by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T06:00:40.783701Z
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@quackerson @Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @intrax @rein look. basically I'm a stud. I'm a chad. I have a beautiful baby. My baby has great optics and basically you're a duck. Okay? Sorry, but I said it. Someone had to. You're a duck and I'm a train. Trains run over ducks every day of the week and twice on Sunday (as G*d) intended. Chappy Channuchah my fellow duck, I mean train.
(DIR) Post #AE3F2uVzMi8nosSAt6 by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T06:04:54.785733Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @Chance @cirnog >Jewish idea of marriageYou have exactly the disturbing, bluepilled view of women that jews want you to have. Don't come at me with "jewish view of marriage" and then advocate men and women to be equal. They are not.Prenups do work, if you know how to use them. If she cannot accept a prenup, then she has already failed as a wife. The relationship between a man and woman is not symmetric.>A prenup says that you don't trust her or that a symbolic gesture is more important than her.If she thinks that the prenup means I am ready to get rid of her if she doesn't behave as a wife should, that is a very good thing.St. Basil the great correctly defined what does and doesn't justify divorce.If a woman cheats on a man, divorce is justified. The opposite is not true, she must accept her husband even if he sleeps with other women, though that is immoral. It is not acceptable to divorce her because she is old or infertile.>It doesn't sound like you want a wife to cherish and protect, it sounds like you want a servantI will cherish and protect her, and she will obey me. That is marriage.It is not an equal relationship. That's a modernist idea. She is mine.If you think otherwise, you are a feminist.Women are women, and should be treated as such. To treat them the same as men is foolish and immoral.“Custom, however, will not have it thus, but in regard to women it insists upon exactitude and stringency, seeing that the Apostle says that he who cleaves to a harlot is one body with her, and that Jeremiah says that if a woman goes with another man, she shall not return to her husband, but shall surely be defiled, and again: whoever keeps an adulteress is foolish and impious. Custom, on the other hand, commands that men who are guilty of adultery or of acts of fornication must be kept by their wives; so that as regards a woman who is cohabiting with a man who has been left can be accounted an adulteress. For the fault here lies in the woman who divorced her husband, according to whatever reason she had for undoing the marriage. For whether it be that when beaten she could not bear the blows, but ought rather to have exercised patience, or to obtain a divorce from the man with whom she at the time was cohabiting, or whether it be that she could not afford to lose the money, neither is this any excuse worthy considering. But if it were on account of his living in a state of fornication, we have no such observance in ecclesiastical usage, but neither is the wife of a faithless husband commanded to separate from him, but, on the contrary, she has to stay with him owing to the fact that the issue of the matter is unknown.”For what do you know, O wife, whether you shall save your husband?”. So that a woman who deserts her husband becomes an adulteress in case she comes to another man. The man, on the other hand, whom she has left, is pardonable, and a woman who cohabits with him is not to be condemned.”From St. Basil The Great
(DIR) Post #AE3G6DxHdwoqw3Me4e by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T06:16:08.319920Z
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@quackerson @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @cirnog @intrax @rein IRL I am a friend of ducks, this couple used to visit me at my house every day until they had chicks
(DIR) Post #AE3GOgifRASzMIKdl2 by sysrq@poa.st
2021-12-04T06:20:03.533116Z
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@Chance Guess anime isn't so bad :^)
(DIR) Post #AE3GTbYy2IvuoX8hU0 by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T06:20:55.702316Z
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@NiggerExpress @quackerson @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @intrax @rein so cute
(DIR) Post #AE3GUa6MxFIoZVEDsO by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T06:21:07.402156Z
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@sysrq i guess not. but im still upset
(DIR) Post #AE3GYbpgSeV969LQZs by quackerson@poa.st
2021-12-04T06:21:34.969100Z
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@NiggerExpress @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @cirnog @intrax @rein Based and 🦆 pilled.
(DIR) Post #AE3GYdSMQL288ORpVA by sysrq@poa.st
2021-12-04T06:21:51.298314Z
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@Chance mad cuz sad
(DIR) Post #AE3GZChpMpCZSUxAy8 by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T06:21:57.471060Z
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@sysrq yes
(DIR) Post #AE3NwslrpqxKGF54qG by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T07:44:40.410829Z
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@rein @TinyFern @AR-15 @Chance If you're upset about the effects of feminism on marriage then don't become the very caricature of male chauvinism that motivated feminists in the first place. You're not some Adonis who can treat his wife like garbage and ignore all her concerns and have it work out in the end.>hey babe i know you're upset that i think you're a gold digging whore, but have you heard about st basil the great?You are autistic.
(DIR) Post #AE3QpqRIPFY8renKHw by SuT5CH3gFe26TCFR@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:32:25.446467Z
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@philmchawk @TinyFern @AR-15 @Chance @Christ_is_Lord To use a metaphor,A doctor named God is in a M*A*S*H camp (Mobile Army Surgical Hospital). Off the Vietnam helicopter from the front he receives, a patient with a blown off arm, two blown off legs, and all of his perforated guts hanging out. God uses an instrument called "Law" to seal up the excess bleeding veins and arteries. God gives a temporary IV (intravenous blood) called "basic morality" to the patient to keep them alive. We would not call this a good work. It's baseline of any doctor. It's to just keep the patient alive for the next surgery. When God sews/sows back together the legs and arms. When god stuffs his guts back in. We call this a GOOD surgical job. This is Christianity. We might be scarred to hell and back, but were functioning.
(DIR) Post #AE3Qpr3E8DtIlIXcPY by philmchawk@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:41:51.697131Z
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@SuT5CH3gFe26TCFR @AR-15 @Chance @Christ_is_Lord @TinyFern Complete unfalsifiable non-sense. Not only does it fail because White people get christainity to do what you say while niggers who need it the most didn't but it just attributes everything good to God and everything bad elsewhere which makes the problem of evil come around without freewill being the cope.
(DIR) Post #AE3QprVaQmZmBFoGcC by SuT5CH3gFe26TCFR@poa.st
2021-12-04T03:53:57.730406Z
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@philmchawk @AR-15 @Chance @Christ_is_Lord @TinyFern There is a reason I speak in parables.1 Corinthians 2:14"The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ."I will leave you a quote. James 1:17"Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change."1 John 4:8"Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love."Evil has lead the world astray from the lord's Holy Light. He gave a choice to follow which master. I only follow him not because I am a flesh puppet but by my Love for my Father.
(DIR) Post #AE4BFSafeJ1Jxk7iFc by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T16:57:04.560740Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern >then don't become the very caricature of male chauvinismChauvinism is correct. You're just confirming once again that you are a leftist and a feminist>that motivated feminists in the first placeFeminism exists because men became weak and unwilling to put women in their place. You are arguing that it exists because it is completely justified.There is nothing more to say. You're probably jewish as well. Fuck off and stop putting poison in young men's minds
(DIR) Post #AE4BUTj1iDt7pGC21w by travis@pleroma.xmanifesto.club
2021-12-04T16:59:47.432823Z
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@rein @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @cirnog everybody is a secret feminist jew
(DIR) Post #AE4BcXickSeoWnqlou by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T17:01:14.855601Z
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@travis @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @cirnog He's not a secret feminist. He's been arguing feminism, female equality, and gay marriage for the past 24 hours
(DIR) Post #AE4Bp6RtRr8tiV0uOW by travis@pleroma.xmanifesto.club
2021-12-04T17:03:30.681055Z
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@rein @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @cirnog i thought he was just arguing that most of you are the dregs of society and the idea of you having a leadership role within a family, or society as a man especially with how you act is laughable.
(DIR) Post #AE4CCaMEPlk98ZYwiG by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T17:07:45.797507Z
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@travis @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @cirnog Why are you coming here to complain about toxic masculinity? Your wife's boyfriend is not home today?
(DIR) Post #AE4CHmpnSAifHVs6V6 by travis@pleroma.xmanifesto.club
2021-12-04T17:08:41.888078Z
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@rein @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @cirnog i wouldn't call it toxic masculinity, i would more think of it as babbling wiggers.
(DIR) Post #AE4CMcKzuKL0Arlk92 by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T17:09:34.532716Z
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@travis @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern @cirnog Sounds like you have a problem with men. I'm sorry you didn't have a good father figure growing up I guess.
(DIR) Post #AE4USDaIeOR2JekMvg by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T20:32:16.698401Z
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@rein @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern >Chauvinism is correct. The caricature is not. Sexism is good, inequality and the man being in charge is good, treating your wife like a gold digging whore and dismissing all her concerns out of hand is bad and will get you divorced.>Feminism exists because men became weak and unwilling to put women in their placeIt exists because jews looked at fracture points in our society and exploited them, you're creating the very conditions that makes a woman think "i hate being a slave to men", once again you've made a self fulfilling prophecy>You are arguing that it exists because it is completely justified.I'm arguing that every woman in your wife's life will tell her that she's made a terrible mistake and actively sabotage your marriage, because you are identical to feminist caricatures.The most telling sign of autism is the inability to understand other people's points of view, you're not some god amongst men you're just autistic.
(DIR) Post #AE4VL4M2fWqRcJEVNo by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T20:42:11.472138Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern Absolutely nothing wrong with signing a prenup, and if she thinks that is mistreating her, she is arrogant and does not know her place as a wife. Simple as. Anything else is just advocating for emasculation, feminism and cuckoldry, which you have done nothing but.>It exists because jews looked at fracture points in our society and exploited them, you're creating the very conditions that makes a woman think "i hate being a slave to men", once again you've made a self fulfilling prophecyNo, it exists exactly because of men like you. You are the fracture point.Women in a healthy society do not get to make these decisions. They are not capable of making them nor should their judgement in the matter be trusted.It doesn't matter what they think, and it never mattered so long as society worked as it should.Women do not complain about being "slaves to men". Ownership of women by men is "marriage".>I'm arguing that every woman in your wife's life will tell her that she's made a terrible mistake and actively sabotage your marriageThe fact of the matter is, society will try to sabotage a good marriage because marriage is illegal. Only gay marriage is legal, even if it's between a man and a woman.Meanwhile, you are justifying the unjustifiable, and advocating for feminism and equality, all while shaming men.>because you are identical to feminist caricatures.All feminist caricatures are their sexual fantasies. It incredibly obvious if you just go to spinster and read what they post. All of it is naked fantasizing.>you're not some god amongst menNever claimed to be. I am just a man, and I act as men should. You act like a female.I'm done with you. You've made your point, you support feminism and you are against marriage and in favour of cuckoldry.There is nothing more to be said.
(DIR) Post #AE4Va5wl20OitmZTMm by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T20:44:54.298678Z
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@rein @cirnog @AR-15 @TinyFern Literally every argument against a prenup had been >BUT MUH FEELINGS And nothing else. Almost like women need to stop functioning purely on feelings for once
(DIR) Post #AE4VdjSQaUQEJA7RT6 by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T20:45:33.751275Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog A good reason to have a prenup.But I think it's more important she knows you will kill her and the other man if she betrays you. That's more important than any prenup.
(DIR) Post #AE4VkAja5QDoduDH6G by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T20:46:43.671502Z
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@rein @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog if she cheats she gets beat :shrug_yui: and then locked in the basement for a few days before getting dumped in the river
(DIR) Post #AE4VtpWrmUxzlvs4wa by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T20:48:28.404142Z
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@Chance @rein @AR-15 @TinyFern If you're going to spend your life with a woman you do have to take her into consideration.>But I shouldn't have to care about how my wife feelsYou do and no amount of quoting saints or appealing to masculine ideals will change this.Remember you're not marrying a statistical average that has a probability of divorce, you're marrying one specific woman and your marriage depends entirely on how you and her get along.
(DIR) Post #AE4W67pfYWm40uWr2m by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T20:50:41.675257Z
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@rein @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern Bruh all you've said is that you refuse to consider other people's perspectives but demand that they cater to you.>Of course not i believe in inequalityThis isn't inequality it's autism or sociopathy. If you treat people like shit and dismiss them out of hand then they will reciprocate.
(DIR) Post #AE4W9kEDG1VHxtjcOm by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T20:51:20.879139Z
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@cirnog @rein @AR-15 @TinyFern not signing a prenup is dismissing the man out of hand.
(DIR) Post #AE4WF52zHSCNyw1pM8 by DerSauerkraut@poa.st
2021-12-04T20:52:18.769975Z
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@Chance @rein @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog Not gonna catch up in this hell thread but the problem is those facilitaing women. Deal the the family courts that grant all the marraige destroying bullshit. With that easy out gone relationships will be taken more seriously.
(DIR) Post #AE4WMEGRPVBQawjKKW by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T20:53:36.332340Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein We've gone over this several times, saying "I want to marry you" is not at all the same as saying "I suspect you will divorce me". You're not going to convince me they're the same and you'll certainly never convince a woman they're the same, so no it is not dismissing a man out of hand.
(DIR) Post #AE4WNwjVYtPwnn92Lw by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T20:53:55.001945Z
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@cirnog @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern The purpose of psychiatry defining things like "sociopathy" is to pathologize male behaviour and associate it and confound it with antisocial behaviour.You are once again using enemy language and advocating enemy arguments, as well as repeating the same shit like a broken record.You are muted.
(DIR) Post #AE4WVzFe5B1kvg0jaK by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T20:55:22.096148Z
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@DerSauerkraut @Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @rein Ideally divorce would be off the table and so that nobody would have to deal with this kind of situation. But the point I've been making the entire thread is that marriage is built on trust, and chance and rein both want to start their marriage with a declaration of how little they trust their wives, followed by endless excuses for why they should never even consider their wife's opinion on anything.
(DIR) Post #AE4WbmiRbONJmxFIoa by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T20:56:24.974833Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog So long as she thinks she and her lover will be killed if she ever cheats, she won't even think of cheating on you.
(DIR) Post #AE4WbwTvIEhY4oWqZM by cirnog@poa.st
2021-12-04T20:56:26.683189Z
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@rein @AR-15 @Chance @TinyFern Nigger you're a caricature and incompetent at arguing.
(DIR) Post #AE4WcdQtbMpVHsRXJw by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T20:55:49.189306Z
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@DerSauerkraut @Chance @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein this matter was settled yesterday, I solved the thread. Will you thank me for my service?
(DIR) Post #AE4WcdwngkLmspN13A by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T20:56:33.726396Z
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@NiggerExpress @DerSauerkraut @AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein Yeah. No prenup. Just get married. And if she does a classic woman move you just kill em both.
(DIR) Post #AE4WtPiDrqdhemY3iS by NiggerExpress@poa.st
2021-12-04T20:59:14.553121Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @DerSauerkraut @TinyFern @cirnog @rein I don't wanna be a dick about it, but it'd mean a lot if you would thank me for my service. It costs you nothing to pay homage to the gamers that sacrificed so much so that you could murder a cheating cunt and feel good about it
(DIR) Post #AE4WtQKVZVGRZWSdOK by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T20:59:36.031399Z
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@NiggerExpress @AR-15 @DerSauerkraut @TinyFern @cirnog @rein I did thank you yesterday
(DIR) Post #AE4bAiHiT691zveeau by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T21:46:44.086817Z
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@Chance @rein @AR-15 @cirnog Pro-prenup Arguments: > I am resentful about divorce law (both)> I distrust and despise all the women I know (chance)> I shouldn't trust my wife because wahmen are stupid and my bangmaid should be obedient (Rein)Anti-prenup arguments> Prenups get dismissed legally and don't hold up after a kid or a couple years> White churchgoing demographics have very low rates of divorce anyway > it will offend your wife and a good marriage involves making your wife not feel distrusted > signing a prenup doesn't save you that much money because actual child support doesn't cost that much, it's just expensive to run two households. Divorce is expensive however you do it> If you just avoid getting married legally, the state will consider you de facto married after a certain time regardlessWhen I look at these arguments, I can tell you which ones are more emotional. As cirnog keeps pointing out, your inability to understand the other point of view does not bode well for a future marriage.
(DIR) Post #AE4brJyEkAOR2arP28 by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T21:55:14.906167Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @cirnog @rein I will not ask for a prenup. I have my answer for divorce from another user now. Yeah prenups don't appear to do much. So instead. In case if cheating or other such things I will use my illegal protections to make the problem disappear.
(DIR) Post #AE4bu0dR5ZyzwRPeIS by AR-15@poa.st
2021-12-04T21:55:44.163614Z
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@Chance @TinyFern @cirnog @rein Based.
(DIR) Post #AE4bwG7MUnVoXVU0jw by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T21:56:08.579109Z
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@AR-15 @TinyFern @cirnog @rein I'm ganna be blasting Bonnie and Clyde by Eminem while I do it
(DIR) Post #AE4cGUcaHValJTjeVM by rein@poa.st
2021-12-04T21:59:47.929258Z
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@TinyFern @Chance @AR-15 @cirnog The fact that prenups get legally dismissed is not at all an argument against them. 4 out of 5 of your arguments are just repeating the same idea that prenups don't work. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. You even sneak in nonsense about common law marriage as if that's somehow an argument that has anything to do with the prenup.The *only* argument you have is the wife will be offended. And again no, she should not be, and if she is, she is not a good wife. That is entirely an emotional argument, and it stems from a completely distorted and gay view of marriage.Marriage is not based on unconditionally "trusting your wife".That is feminist nonsense.And yes, women are much like children. They are not to be treated like men.For the same reason, one should not be resentful towards them.The fact that you try to characterize my more than justified demand for the wife's obedience shows that you fundamentally come from an evil place, and you believe in female equality.There is nothing more I have to say to you given you are clearly against straight marriage at a fundamental level, and you are hateful towards men and their property.
(DIR) Post #AE4cjyfHevuutD3cVE by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T22:03:57.038395Z
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@rein @AR-15 @Chance @cirnog > The fact that this doesn't work doesn't mean that you shouldn't do it Do you even read what you write > The fact that you characterise my argument Yes, I characterised it accurately. You went on to justify every element of my summary. Do you actually disagree with anything that I said you believe? You're upset because I phrased it disparagingly and you want me to say it nicely.
(DIR) Post #AE4cjz7HyoJoI49z9c by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T22:05:07.539764Z
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@TinyFern @rein @AR-15 @cirnog Since prenups are evil can I just murder her if she cheats or leaves (assuming I didn't do anything)
(DIR) Post #AE4d0iyfEoBH9u6koy by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T22:08:01.889361Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @cirnog @rein If you're coming at this from a rationalist, defensive position then the Christian answer will never appeal to you.The correct Christian answer to unjust persecution by evil authorities is to get publicly murdered without putting up a fight. The correct Christian answer is frustrating and counterintuitive. You can and will do whatever you want, but don't pretend you're trying to be faithful to God while you do it.
(DIR) Post #AE4dEzE9cNpRbw9bhA by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T22:10:43.798206Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @cirnog @rein So once again. The woman. It's saying that women can do anything and have all the power with no consequences. and if the man wants to change that he is evil.
(DIR) Post #AE4eADdghwPeoZO652 by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-04T22:18:39.338754Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @cirnog @rein Are you aware that your brother in arms is quoting saints and saying that men can cheat and it's not grounds for divorce at all,, that women shouldn't be able to divorce or manage money or even be trusted by their husbands? I'm not saying that there are no consequences or that women get all the power, I'm saying that you fundamentally misunderstand marriage. If you make yourself vulnerable to somebody by marrying them, they have the power to completely destroy you emotionally, psychologically, financially - regardless of gender. Marriage is complete vulnerability when it's done properly, you become one person. There's different roles and authority within that, but the stereotypes of a man with a bad wife who's become a shell of his former self are just as common as divorce stereotypes. You're focusing on divorce but a bad wife can destroy your life by all manner of means other than divorce, and the same for a bad husband. If you go in defensively trying to limit your risk for that one thing it bodes ill for the rest of your marriage.
(DIR) Post #AE4eAEECWBcUdoTFzc by Chance@poa.st
2021-12-04T22:21:04.352257Z
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@TinyFern @AR-15 @cirnog @rein Wrong. Only the man can be destroyed financially. At least get it right.
(DIR) Post #AE4tDFYBYaHSvJiWoq by TinyFern@poa.st
2021-12-05T00:11:20.508395Z
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@Chance @AR-15 @cirnog @rein Within the context of marriage, either partner can be financially abused. I'm not talking about divorce, I'm talking about inside a marriage where a partner may be told not to earn outside money and be denied access to the funds to do literally anything. It's a control mechanism used by abusers to isolate people, by refusing their partner access to transport they can't connect with friends or family, without money they are totally reliant on asking for permission to do something as basic as replace damaged clothing or buy personal hygiene products - I'm talking about a system of control where you don't get to spend $5 without justifying it and you get screamed at and told that you don't deserve to eat for a day if the other person decides that you didn't need it. You're going to tell me that this doesn't happen but it does. I don't think you understand how bad things can actually get inside a marriage. There's a whole world of ways that you can abuse or be abused when you're emotionally and financially entangled with somebody else, and when you want to protect your kids from that person. If you think the worst thing that can happen is your partner leaving you, you're naive.