Post AE2vSYc7Px2mLAGxZQ by ThatWouldBeTelling@poa.st
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(DIR) Post #AE2CqMowQ6comFFWpk by grey@poa.st
2021-12-03T18:05:31.370604Z
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@smugumin >"""rare"""
(DIR) Post #AE2DJDo50pvdDdbbMm by eee@poa.st
2021-12-03T18:10:44.571046Z
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@grey @smugumin >mistakes
(DIR) Post #AE2DXlfPuwx4HyUQ5o by WashedOutGundamPilot@poa.st
2021-12-03T18:06:40.573176Z
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@smugumin Wow, so those schizo posters in september of 2020 were right after all. Hmmm....I'm sure this will be the last time.
(DIR) Post #AE2FbbWxkJgBuzUaJs by limpandazure@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T18:21:32.152302Z
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@smugumin Hey look! I know what that is! Fortunately, mine hasn't expressed itself in blood clots. My immune system is killing off my platelets though.
(DIR) Post #AE2GKBboy7t0YT1UdE by ryuuji@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T18:41:06.898097Z
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@smugumin do not atacc the platelets
(DIR) Post #AE2HZJCf7F8sPE1vKC by limpandazure@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T18:49:59.751580Z
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I've posted about it before. the moderna jab gave me autoimmune thrombocytopenia.
(DIR) Post #AE2Hhsl4o5BIzjDPBg by Suzu@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T19:00:01.142415Z
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@limpandazure @smugumin and is there any possibility to sue the fuck out of everything and everyone?
(DIR) Post #AE2HrDIjnXXpJVPRtw by Shouchou@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T18:53:17.551502Z
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@limpandazure @smugumin I got that same jab like 2 days ago
(DIR) Post #AE2HzrwIaffhfQ2byq by limpandazure@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T19:02:04.131770Z
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for me, definitely no.I got the jab I'm April, before there were mandates. I'm the USA, to receive the jab, you also have to sign away any liability. now I'm the states there is a vaccine injury fund to pay out settlements, but I think that's only for formally FDA approved ones.fortunately, I don't have many active symptoms other than easy bruising and petechiae.
(DIR) Post #AE2ILiH1Cyli3m9HG4 by Kyonko802@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T19:07:12.697312Z
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@Shouchou @limpandazure @smugumin Everyone in my family got moderna and they havent had any issues from it, but make sure to keep a close eye on your health.One of them also still got the virus :kekw:
(DIR) Post #AE2INwh0ZLYTMLMyvY by DrRyanSkelton@poa.st
2021-12-03T19:07:37.270886Z
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@limpandazure @Suzu F
(DIR) Post #AE2ITq7XusewiLapSy by Suzu@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T19:08:41.214831Z
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@smugumin
(DIR) Post #AE2IVWbbRcUslgSIkq by DrRyanSkelton@poa.st
2021-12-03T19:08:59.391413Z
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@smugumin @Suzu @limpandazure they will simply lie about the cause anyway. Do not take the vaxx with a liability clause and expect to score jewmonies
(DIR) Post #AE2Ifw6lTtfgl6znNI by limpandazure@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T19:10:21.236853Z
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I think it's about aspiration. The mRNA vac technology is super neat and has some great applications, but I think most of the side effects and problems were seeing are from failure to aspirate, to make sure it is not being injected into the blood stream.They are having pharmacists, CNAs, virtually any ding dong is able to give these shots, and I don't think many are paying mind to inject properly.that said, the vaccines are still pretty damn pointless and probably encouraging variant development.
(DIR) Post #AE2IqjwJ43PMChFu5o by Shouchou@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T19:10:54.859823Z
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@Immahnoob Yeah... :withered_wojack:
(DIR) Post #AE2IqkR9DO4tkLgXAG by Kyonko802@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T19:12:47.615335Z
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@Shouchou @Immahnoob I wouldnt overworry about the virus itself either, at worst it usually just knocks you on your ass for a few days. Notice how they havent been showing off the pneumonia patients in the news reports like they did at the start? It's not happening as often
(DIR) Post #AE2IyWbQXAhF9oCY6a by limpandazure@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T19:13:40.093373Z
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I know. I'm the crazy conspiracy uncle now. :uni_scare:
(DIR) Post #AE2K9k4QtvtQ4BgIzI by SADIDAS@shitposter.club
2021-12-03T19:27:28.067474Z
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@smugumin Oh, so the Daily Mail have switched sides again?
(DIR) Post #AE2KwPy4Qm2vuPuq4e by rlier23@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T19:36:15.585360Z
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@smugumin so we were not wrong then
(DIR) Post #AE2L30cF5UbfJ9qgKm by rlier23@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T19:37:27.273002Z
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@Shouchou @limpandazure @smugumin dabbing on you niggas and your health issues :catgirl_dance:
(DIR) Post #AE2Ljd2qbDiaekcEbY by limpandazure@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T19:41:32.729064Z
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I caved to family pressure when I was disinvited to a wedding unless I got "at least one" jab. I was always skeptical, but I love my family despite the groom being a complete fuckass.
(DIR) Post #AE2LjebGoiqbTnjEtk by rlier23@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T19:45:08.837177Z
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@limpandazure man everywhere i go niggas pressure me and i still havent caven in, people who don't respect your choices abd start putting conditions like that are not good in my book
(DIR) Post #AE2MEnoUc1n51zlZ68 by namedoesntfi@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T19:50:08.587521Z
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@rlier23 @Shouchou @limpandazure @smugumin Unfortunately for me, I've always had a weak respiratory system since I was a kid. The lockdowns and stressful work helped me to gain weight (getting better now though :flan_yea: ), so I was somewhat concerned what could happen in my case. Took the J&J jab and regret it. Not because of any side effects as so far I think I have none, but because of how stupid all this has become. I guess I'll have to take the mantle of conspiracy uncle now when I visit my family. I've been seeing friends excited for the booster shot too. :hinata_acid:
(DIR) Post #AE2MSwUd8e060MDaOe by namedoesntfi@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T19:35:18.763400Z
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@smugumin @SADIDAS Even if they must contradict themselves, because at the end of the day they don't give a shit.
(DIR) Post #AE2MSwsNiL01C1KYPw by SADIDAS@shitposter.club
2021-12-03T19:53:20.570646Z
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@namedoesntfi @smugumin I don't see it as them contradicting themselves, they're just playing both sides for financial gain.
(DIR) Post #AE2MZCakCHQxfg3wnI by rlier23@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T19:54:28.740451Z
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@namedoesntfi @Shouchou @limpandazure @smugumin tbh all i do in this regard is poke everyone a little, pointing out any discrepancies.I think that by poking their curiosity i might get them to start researching things on their own, plus im no ones granny to be spoonfeeding them the answers :kekw:
(DIR) Post #AE2MwFYhKdsrX95zV2 by ThatWouldBeTelling@poa.st
2021-12-03T19:58:38.613431Z
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@Kyonko802 “I think it’s about aspiration.”While we should be careful about getting our science news from the MSM (but strangely enough The Daily Mail is pretty good about hard facts, certainly a lot better than almost all US media) the vaccines not including aspiration in their administration protocol has been suspected as a cause for the heart and heart lining inflammation problem, and here the article all but comes right out and says it (but maybe not, don’t forget capillaries, and you’d want to find out exactly what it reproduced while this class of vaccines can’t make viruses capable of infection).I think you’re wrong to blame the administrators because they’ve not been told to aspirate (that is, stick the needle in, then pull on the plunger a bit to make sure you don’t get blood). Sure, it takes a bit more time, I’m sure a bit more skill to do it without hurting the patient a bit more, but you can’t blame people for following what appear to be sensible instructions, and ones tested with large Phase III trials. 1 in 100,000 adverse effects won’t be found in US FDA strength 30,000 or more subject trials, although they U.K. demands about half that.And now we see why you should be suspicious of “new things,” but not take it to the point of insanity. Especially when, you know, the alternatives includes permanent injury and death. Adenovirus vector vaccines had only been tested previously by J&J’s Janssen unit for the first dose of their Ebola vaccine in a European Phase III trial, and both they and the Sputnik V crew use human ones.Oxford’s clown show uses one gleaned from chimpanzee feces (there’s a reason to try that), and never got beyond Phase I trials with no more than 45 people at a time. As I recall Janssen’s clotting problem is somewhat different and significantly more rare, but I don’t pay much attention to these because their complexity always made them theoretically more dangerous than the simple mMRA vaccines, why administer a whole DNA virus to get it to make some mRNA to make some target virus proteins when you can cut out the middle mane. Simplicity also makes a big difference in manufacturing, but mRNA vaccines aren’t so good for transportation and storage.@limpandazure Are you a young whippersnapper to not worry at all about morbidity let along mortality? And you’re not considering that variant development will happen no matter what we do. First of all Alpha and Delta happened without vaccines, and Omicron has too many mutations to be anything but the product of having passed through animals for a while or coming from someone who didn’t throw it off quickly, as we guess was the source of Alpha and Delta.And you fail like so many others to consider the alternative: let the virus rip through populations, maiming and killing many many more people, and then guess what? Variants that get around natural immunity as Alpha and Delta will to an extent still arise, as, you know, they in fact did.@smugumin
(DIR) Post #AE2NQJM3mZKZzjWDaa by Kyonko802@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T20:04:02.989935Z
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@ThatWouldBeTelling @limpandazure @smugumin >not take it to the point of insanityFunny you say that because I'm pretty sure the Karens who screech at me in the grocery are pretty insane, as are the police in australia beating the shit out of people for not playing along with this farcical game of lockdown musical chairs.
(DIR) Post #AE2NsgkKPIuUeNOw7s by ThatWouldBeTelling@poa.st
2021-12-03T20:09:12.428799Z
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@limpandazure @Suzu In “the states there is a vaccine injury fund to pay out settlements, but I think that’s only for formally FDA approved ones.”There’s a “countermeasures” “vaccine court” modeled on the one created in the 1980s for childhood vaccines when we were down to one company still willing to make whole cell pertussis (whooping cough) vaccine. It very specifically covers anything that gets an Emergency Use Authorization for an emergency like this pandemic. You should file a claim with it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_Systems_Bureau#Countermeasures_Injury_Compensation_Program
(DIR) Post #AE2NzdSV1pk2TtNHfs by namedoesntfi@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T20:08:44.961021Z
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@rlier23 @Shouchou @limpandazure @smugumin Of course, everyone should be responsible for themselves in that regard. Read stuff and come up to your own conclusions. My issue with how everything turned out is that people want the jab out of conformity not health. Sure, I regret it but I took as genuine concern for myself given my medical history. I may be an idiot to some/many, but I own up to it. One of the companies I worked when vaccines were just starting to be available had the CEO talking employee to employee to get the jab. I quit that place not only because of that shit but also since it had a shitty management (that CEO being the main reason). No one but you should decide what to do in terms of your health or life decisions really.
(DIR) Post #AE2OBwE156WA9vSzWy by ThatWouldBeTelling@poa.st
2021-12-03T20:12:40.937652Z
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@Kyonko802 @limpandazure @smugumin And this has exactly what to do with your personal decision to get COVID vaccinated or not??I’ve got another essay on this I’m going to try to get to today, but if you spend any attention on the insane and/or your enemies for these sorts of decisions (vs. fighting them if you choose or must) you are proving yourself to be very stupid indeed.
(DIR) Post #AE2OV89YxO24eiXEno by Kyonko802@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T20:16:08.302091Z
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@ThatWouldBeTelling @limpandazure @smugumin >And this has exactly what to do with your personal decision to get COVID vaccinated or not??Are you retarded? No vaccine has EVER been enforced with violence and mandates like this before. I don't give a shit about your essays. And I DID get it, but you can bet your ass I'm not going in for a booster.I hope you enjoy doing it for free, faggot.
(DIR) Post #AE2OVId00nWL8uNt4a by limpandazure@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T20:06:04.107393Z
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first, mucho textosecond, not blaming people giving shots for what is poor training or instruction. I was saying the gate with which government and corporate bodies went through to give gazillions of doses asap likely led to poor application, increasing rates of adverse reactions.third, I think it's clear that at the very least we were not given what we were promised. I certainly wasn't.
(DIR) Post #AE2OVK2YlFYpWTLoYK by ThatWouldBeTelling@poa.st
2021-12-03T20:16:10.636004Z
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@limpandazure “first, mucho texto”NO EXCUSE for anyone smart and educated enough to immediately recognize this is probably an aspiration problem. I mean, how many people even know about injection protocols??(My mother was an RN, and boy did I get a lot of allergy desensitization shots through sometime in my teens. Plus I find this sort of thing interesting.)
(DIR) Post #AE2OY1TyDPiOpqSYxk by rlier23@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T20:16:39.263385Z
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@ThatWouldBeTelling @Kyonko802 @limpandazure @smugumin >Killing many peopleInst the fatality rate like less than 10%
(DIR) Post #AE2OcW3iTTUWpDK2HA by Kyonko802@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T20:17:29.121761Z
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@rlier23 @ThatWouldBeTelling @limpandazure @smugumin Way less than that now, 10% would actually be pretty bad.
(DIR) Post #AE2OtlmhGDeWWHaYIi by limpandazure@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T20:17:54.145876Z
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I appreciate your passion. I was just shocked at the length. I'll peel over it better when I'm in a position to have more time.
(DIR) Post #AE2OtmJfHe1YAX0sgi by Kyonko802@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T20:20:34.869015Z
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@limpandazure @ThatWouldBeTelling Don't bother, he disregards it being forced on people completely. He's just here to push it on you.
(DIR) Post #AE2OuGc8dWcu8Vt3eC by ThatWouldBeTelling@poa.st
2021-12-03T20:20:41.705763Z
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@Kyonko802 @limpandazure @smugumin “No vaccine has EVER been enforced with violence and mandates like this before.”It’s you who’s ignorant on the subject when you apply prior mandatory vaccination regimes with the context of a pandemic. Plus, you know, for the violence Australia isn’t the rest of the world, it was really badly run long before COVID. Anywhere else doing that sort of thing (responses to protests are in a different category).Plus why are you trying to pick a fight with someone who only supports mandatory vaccinations for healthcare workers (a standard thing prior to COVID)?
(DIR) Post #AE2P5fklVgc9I0MQka by Kyonko802@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T20:22:44.644206Z
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@ThatWouldBeTelling @limpandazure @smugumin No, no other vaccine has been enforced like THIS. And I know about the smallpox mandate, so don't try to play coy with me.And you know damn well Australia is the canary in the coal mine. Canada is already talking about implementing the same programs. And you're a fool if you think the UK isn't gonna follow suit.
(DIR) Post #AE2PNDdcmRNBIvO5fk by Kyonko802@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T20:25:54.950004Z
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@ThatWouldBeTelling @limpandazure @smugumin Context of the pandemic, go fuck yourself, honestly. Do you really think people are just gonna strap in and say "make me all better daddy" just because something is NEW and BETTER. Who is it new and better for? Not Lazm, not my uncle, not the people who still get COVID even with the jab.
(DIR) Post #AE2PSAougVoi0q1wOG by namedoesntfi@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T20:24:42.115933Z
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@rlier23 @ThatWouldBeTelling @Kyonko802 @limpandazure @smugumin It's like 3% of the world population got it and within that 1~2% of dying from it. Now of course since there has been reports of it being mislabeled, it varies but I don't think beyond 1 percentage point.
(DIR) Post #AE2PxSQtFfJZc7i9Hk by namedoesntfi@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T20:31:23.358414Z
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@Kyonko802 @ThatWouldBeTelling @limpandazure @smugumin The guy is comparing having to pay a fine (from the smallpox era) to losing your job and/or being locked away. :hinata_acid:
(DIR) Post #AE2PxT0h6XxFPASk5o by Kyonko802@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T20:32:24.672337Z
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@namedoesntfi @ThatWouldBeTelling @limpandazure @smugumin he's not comparing, I am. He's saying I'm being ignorant for comparing, which is some nasty wordplay to try and make it look like I'm crazy.
(DIR) Post #AE2Q1akaGjB8ZKtUWW by ThatWouldBeTelling@poa.st
2021-12-03T20:33:13.510198Z
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@Kyonko802 @rlier23 @limpandazure @smugumin 10% would be catastrophic, possibly technological civilization ending for countries like the US where we’re already in a civil war where the side that’s losing now is the one that keeps the lights on.Unlike the Spanish Flu, and I’m sure the plague, COVID has an age stratification in morbidity and mortality that starts to make it a big deal for people in their 30s. Lots of countries, well, I gather most people don’t live a whole lot longer so it’s not in a position to kill lots in them. Others have lots lots of young compared to old. So you really have to look at it by age and available healthcare, can you supply the minimum of high flow oxygen and a steroid for the more serious cases?If so, you’re not going to lose so many people, but per the study on US Veterans Administration unvaccinated (2020) patients who were necessarily hospitalized they will overall be four times worse off than those hospitalized for the seasonal flu. The other interesting factoid level top line result was for those not hospitalized, of the 30 days survivors 8% more of them died in the next six months than the control group: https://www.unz.com/isteve/when-will-biden-finally-shut-down-flights-from-india/#comment-4613645
(DIR) Post #AE2QOIlfIGeVSQEEgi by namedoesntfi@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T20:36:15.412260Z
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@Kyonko802 @ThatWouldBeTelling @limpandazure @smugumin I wonder how many normies really know how things are over in Australia right now.
(DIR) Post #AE2QOJIdJh1X6feZ4i by Kyonko802@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T20:37:17.581605Z
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@namedoesntfi @ThatWouldBeTelling @limpandazure @smugumin this guy does, he just doesn't give a shit and tries to divorce it from the lockdown narrative.
(DIR) Post #AE2QxJIfJ4QRFAMEOe by ThatWouldBeTelling@poa.st
2021-12-03T20:43:39.227478Z
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@namedoesntfi @rlier23 @Kyonko802 @limpandazure @smugumin Citation on only 3% of the world population getting COVID?I don’t think you can get that unless you ignore all the countries where there isn’t much if anything in the way of public health surveillance. For example South Africa is a happening place for COVID and variants, do you think the story is any different to the north except that the (black) people there are not looking? Nor particularly have to given how young their populations are (suck to be an old politician, though).#2 population India actively suppressed statistics when Delta finally started a serious pandemic and basically let it rip through the population (anti-vaxxers will be happy the nation just didn’t give a damn about vaccinating the population until it was too late). #1 PRC who knows, are they telling the truth (not a chance), or enough of it? And is Delta’s increased transmissibility causing their non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs like “social distancing”) to fail??
(DIR) Post #AE2RtV5dd7ocba0m0W by ThatWouldBeTelling@poa.st
2021-12-03T20:54:10.274413Z
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@rlier23 @Kyonko802 @limpandazure @smugumin >Killing many peopleInst the fatality rate like less than 10%Let’s suppose it was 1% to make the math easy (as previous discussed it’s so age stratified that doesn’t work). Wouldn’t you consider the premature death of 80 million people to be significant, maybe world historical? If it was that high we’re talking in the range of the Spanish Flu in absolute numbers, somewhat less as a fraction for the whole world. But I’m guessing the US is going to get about there in due course, equivalent fraction of population being killed by each.Now consider that morbidity, including delayed mortality is a major issue, death is not the only metric.
(DIR) Post #AE2S07m0idKAJizOyW by rlier23@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T20:55:21.607985Z
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@ThatWouldBeTelling @Kyonko802 @limpandazure @namedoesntfi @smugumin oh yeah for sure the numbers are all over the place :kekw:
(DIR) Post #AE2SXpfCYbidzpsTWi by Kyonko802@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T21:01:23.980873Z
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@smugumin @ThatWouldBeTelling @limpandazure they'll never understand its not about the numbers for us. That's why he's still throwing out studies and articles. I was on board with the morality of it all when I didn't want my grandma to get pneumonia, but now that everyone is acting so insane I'm falling on the opposite side and they can get fucked. I'd rather not get my knees blown out by a night stick because I forgot to take my 10 dotted Vax card to the grocery.
(DIR) Post #AE2UfNkARjqNd4vbbU by namedoesntfi@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T20:58:12.306531Z
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@ThatWouldBeTelling @Kyonko802 @limpandazure @rlier23 @smugumin A rough approximation (even using ceiling operation for worst number) of the # of reported cases and the estimated world population. If you don't trust me, you can either do it yourself or find news talking about it. The number will still be about that much.I don't trust China either. Statistically speaking, it's very unlikely they only had the reported number of cases and deaths. However, even taking that into consideration there is no logic to assume that the virus disproportionately affect Chinese people and, therefore, though the percentage will change it will not be by a high margin.If those estimates are to be ignored and we still are to "trust the numbers given to us" there is still no reason for the over reaction in terms of maintaining lockdowns, putting people in "quarantines camps", mandating people to "comply or else".
(DIR) Post #AE2bMmUOuxP0YOdBDc by ThatWouldBeTelling@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:40:18.346761Z
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@limpandazure Believes “the moderna jab gave me autoimmune thrombocytopenia.”@Suzu replies “and is there any possibility to sue the fuck out of everything and everyone?”There’s a problem with this attitude, you’ll end up with no more new drugs getting developed and marketed and a lot will be taken off the market. And a lot of people you know will die unnecessary squalid premature deaths.Because the ugly fact is that when you give any drug or biologic to millions of people, here hundreds of millions, some will be maimed or killed. That’s just how it works because of the extreme variability of the human race.Don’t know how it’s done down there, but in Phase IV “post marketing” drugs are frequently given “black box” warnings in the prescribing info when enough people get them that the more rare side effects can rise out of statistical noise. I once took such a drug, later it was discovered it killed some people’s livers which kills them absent a transplant.So, yeah, it’s ugly to get autoimmune thrombocytopenia or blood clots, but it’s also ugly to die of a bacterial infection as the son of our President Coolidge did after playing some tennis without socks. Overall modern medicine from antibiotics to vaccines has been very good for us; I wouldn’t be here, I suspect a lot of others reading this also wouldn’t without it.
(DIR) Post #AE2bxL6LhyAuKHoTy4 by DrRyanSkelton@poa.st
2021-12-03T22:46:55.064003Z
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@Kyonko802 @smugumin @ThatWouldBeTelling @limpandazure mandatory vaccinations are only justifiable because vaccine is supposed to render you mostly immune to the disease. The chink plague vaxx does not yet the elites are stealing the gravitas of the word vaccine to ship what is at best snake oil and form an ersatz religion around it to pretend everyone arguing over bullshit rounding error tier effectiveness numbers is just what has always happened with vaccines and EVERYONE pretends to have known that all along for faggot online cred
(DIR) Post #AE2cJ2bNAbANJzfkYa by Kyonko802@varishangout.net
2021-12-03T22:50:49.317588Z
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@ThatWouldBeTelling @Suzu @limpandazure "Shut up and deal with it" is not any way to get people on your side, hall monitor.
(DIR) Post #AE2tRXy68G7I8lwZDk by Suzu@varishangout.net
2021-12-04T02:02:51.657362Z
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@ThatWouldBeTelling @limpandazure OK, I can see your point, but I still don't agree that there shouldn't be no consequences whatsoever for life altering or dangerous side effects of medication, specially of a medication that is being metaphorically shoved down everyone's throats. You can't just, like in your example, put out on the market a drug (that will rake in billions of dollars for your company, BTW) that will kill people's livers and then just go "tee hee, I did an oopsie" and leave it like that.
(DIR) Post #AE2vSYc7Px2mLAGxZQ by ThatWouldBeTelling@poa.st
2021-12-04T02:25:26.995887Z
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@Suzu @limpandazure “You can’t just, like in your example, put out on the market a drug (that will rake in billions of dollars for your company, BTW) that will kill people’s livers and then just go “tee hee, I did an oopsie” and leave it like that.”What’s your limiting principle? How much is “enough” compensation? How much is enough punitive damages? Where the fuck did you come up with “will kill people’s livers,” you’re imputing foreknowledge that can’t be had with the current state of the art. And how much is enough for practically every other country but the US where drug companies are forced to sell at near cost or they or countries like India will ignore the patents and just make them for themselves?The punitive damages is where things can get really bad, because people like you are demanding more out of science, biomedicine than the science can deliver. You really, truly, do not find out say 1 in 100,000 adverse effects when you give a drug or biologic to a maximum of 25,000 people in a Phase III trial; surely you can do that math??You’re also confounding responsibilities, if a government “metaphorically shoves it down people’s throats” it’s not the fault of the drug companies, but the government. Or circle back to my original point: if drug companies are going to be held accountable for what governments do with their drugs, they’ll stop developing, marketing, or making such drugs. And companies like AZ will tell governments to fuck off when they demand they make someone else’s witches brew at cost. A double fuck off when idiots like the EU demand it be made in their countries and for even less money.TL;DR: We’re getting a window into why Brazil is so poor, and why so many in the US are trying to get us to follow it. Envy is a cardinal sin, and the worse of them, gaining nothing for the sinner.
(DIR) Post #AE3tOwMl9xug69CDOC by StarioHD@varishangout.net
2021-12-04T13:33:29.579901Z
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@ryuuji @smugumin because big cute. Must lewd
(DIR) Post #AE4PT9go7NuokqPzii by Suzu@varishangout.net
2021-12-04T19:36:21.335383Z
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@ThatWouldBeTelling @limpandazure how do you manage to breathe at the same time you're deepthroating big farma boot so hard? That's some serious skill.