Post ADvjITkqPXGFc9GAFc by clacke@libranet.de
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(DIR) Post #ADu9MypXWfhvcNjOVM by FediFollows@mastodon.online
2021-11-29T16:10:39Z
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ForgeFriends (aka FedeProxy) is a federated free open git for software development, using the Fediverse's ActivityPub protocol. You can follow the project at:➡️ @forgefriends The project website is at https://forgefriends.org and there's more details about how it works at https://forgefriends.org/blog/2021/11/22/what-is-forgefriends#ForgeFriends #FedeProxy #Dev #Devs #Development #Software #SoftwareDevelopment #FOSS #FLOSS #Libre #FreeSoftware #OpenSource #Git #Gits #Forge #Forges #GitHub #Alternatives #Fediverse #ActivityPub
(DIR) Post #ADvDExyeu7Zveo0Dj6 by clacke@libranet.de
2021-11-30T06:19:20Z
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https://forgefriends.org/blog/2021/11/22/what-is-forgefriends/The software projects hosted on one forge are synchronized in real time with their counterparts on other forges, via the W3C ActivityPub protocol.It is not mentioned explicitly, but the vocabulary it uses to transfer project activities over ActivityPub is in fact ForgeFed.
(DIR) Post #ADvjILj8G18ciWOgTI by FediFollows@mastodon.online
2021-11-29T21:45:56Z
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@joeyh @forgefriends Github didn't invent and doesn't own the word Git?
(DIR) Post #ADvjIMIE9XD8TMoiAq by deejoe@mastodon.technology
2021-11-29T22:02:41Z
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@FediFollowsI'm sure @joeyh knows they didn't and don't given his time writing software to work with git.Consider, then, that he didn't say what you thought he said? @forgefriends
(DIR) Post #ADvjINBArFABDmWaoq by FediFollows@mastodon.online
2021-11-30T01:10:24Z
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@deejoe @joeyh @forgefriends I am genuinely not sure what they said, that's why I am asking questions.Always happy to get feedback if there's something wrong.
(DIR) Post #ADvjINjYnOfWwQc3Ps by deejoe@mastodon.technology
2021-11-30T01:55:35Z
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@FediFollowsyou called it a git. What did you mean? Maybe there was a typo in so doing?@joeyh @forgefriends
(DIR) Post #ADvjIPhrSgUx3jpj2u by FediFollows@mastodon.online
2021-11-30T02:41:52Z
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@deejoe @joeyh @forgefriends As I understood it from the forge friends article, this is like a free open federated alternative to github?The most common term I've seen for instances of FOSS alternatives like Gitea etc is git?I am not a developer though, so perhaps there is a problem with this?What would be a better term?
(DIR) Post #ADvjIQOOuWWfBfjhLs by njoseph_1@toot.thoughtworks.com
2021-11-30T11:19:06Z
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@FediFollows @deejoe @joeyh @forgefriends The generic term you're looking for is "git forge".Git is a version control system and Microsoft GitHub is a git forge. As far as I know, the ForgeFed project is trying to create a common federation protocol between git forges (at least the FOSS ones). They aren't trying to add federation to git itself.
(DIR) Post #ADvjIRORBs9KI4lF32 by deejoe@mastodon.technology
2021-11-30T12:38:29Z
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@njoseph_1 @FediFollows @joeyh @forgefriends ah, right. I think I see the difficulty here and agree "git forge" would be better.
(DIR) Post #ADvjIS3uhfKIMiAMhE by FediFollows@mastodon.online
2021-11-30T13:10:39Z
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@deejoe @njoseph_1 @joeyh @forgefriends Yup, it was a generic term I was trying to go for, and as a layperson "git" seemed to be the most common.I will say "git forge" in future then 👍
(DIR) Post #ADvjISaWkPPjzrQPWy by deejoe@mastodon.technology
2021-11-30T13:16:54Z
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@FediFollows @njoseph_1 @joeyh @forgefriends just to provide some context in case it helps in the future, "forge" likely comes from "sourceforge" a code hosting site that predates the creation of git, that supported other version control systems like Subversion (svn).(for what it's worth, I'm not a developer either. I think of this in terms roughly equivalent to the difference between how well one knows how to read & write versus being a "writer" or "author": Widely applicable skills vs profession.)
(DIR) Post #ADvjIT4IxhEXUDMBwe by FediFollows@mastodon.online
2021-11-30T13:19:02Z
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@deejoe @njoseph_1 @joeyh @forgefriends I am still not clear why "git" is unacceptable.Wikipedia has this definition:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GitIt even says "not to be confused with github"?
(DIR) Post #ADvjITkqPXGFc9GAFc by clacke@libranet.de
2021-11-30T13:41:50Z
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Exactly. Don't confuse them.git is a version control tool.github is a project collaboration platform that supports and builds upon git. As the name accurately suggests, it's a hub, not a git.
(DIR) Post #ADvjIUKIHjcLO5qTVQ by FediFollows@mastodon.online
2021-11-30T13:43:30Z
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@clacke @joeyh @njoseph_1 @deejoe @forgefriends ...so, where/when was I confusing them?(genuine question, not being snarky)
(DIR) Post #ADvjIUqYLnQD08wEmu by clacke@libranet.de
2021-11-30T13:44:27Z
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is a federated free open git
(DIR) Post #ADvjIVW1rabB4mLMR6 by FediFollows@mastodon.online
2021-11-30T13:45:43Z
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@clacke @joeyh @njoseph_1 @deejoe @forgefriends ...but what does that have to do with Github? I didn't even mention it?
(DIR) Post #ADvjIW1vwy7SfjGqAK by clacke@libranet.de
2021-11-30T14:07:00Z
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github calling themselves github is perfectly fair and descriptive.That is however not all they are doing. They are actively working for people to confuse github with git, to believe github made git, to believe that you need github to use git.At that point, to call a code forge a git is to contribute to the confusion. Calling it a git forge is fair, if that's its specific focus.Apart from all that, ForgeFriends isn't a forge (which is why it isn't FriendsForge), it's a connector between forges. But that's a fair mistake, the website isn't super clear.