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(DIR) Post #ADd5rIv8Q1TXWJfrQu by AnungIkwe@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T15:19:10.983391Z
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Young warrior standing up for missing and murdered Indigenous woman and girls - the actual most marginalized murder victimsHow'd the Hand Get Red?https://www.aljazeera.com/features/longform/2021/11/8/the-stench-of-death-life-along-canadas-highway-of-tears#HowdTheHandGetRed #MMIW #Durangocide #MMIWG #MMIW #indigenousfeminism #NativeLivesMatter #OccupyWoman
(DIR) Post #ADd870ElqmOg7ITKzI by AnungIkwe@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T15:31:02.803703Z
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The number of missing persons just in the States is staggering. Most are women of color. The mainstream media continues to ignore the murder epidemic of women and girls of color.
(DIR) Post #ADdEk79memWeb1AlTU by xzy45@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T16:42:07.699052Z
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@AnungIkwe is there anything showing the female/male missing numbers breakdown?
(DIR) Post #ADdEk7eymnTm9llg6C by AnungIkwe@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T16:58:35.082591Z
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@xzy45 Not on that chart, but there's one somewhere. The vast majority of missing persons are female.
(DIR) Post #ADdEw3z6HFGkESsCCO by DEERBLOOD@poa.st
2021-11-21T17:01:11.274127Z
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@AnungIkwe Then they'd have to report on the violence of men of color and that's a no-go
(DIR) Post #ADdI6rKZxl4S2Hl86K by AnungIkwe@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T17:35:56.238563Z
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Children and Blacks are the majority of missing persons https://jimmyryce.org/wsj-americas-missing-persons-age-race-gender/Most missing persons are young and female (there's a lot of young gay male runaways, but they aren't counted separately) They also don't include abductions - Girls aged 12–17 are the most common victims of abduction Many are abducted by male relatives and not counted as missing.https://www.statista.com/statistics/240387/number-of-missing-persons-files-in-the-us-by-agePage 5 and 6 breaks it down by age and sex. It's shocking how many Black girls are missing. Especially when all we heard about for 3 months was blond, blue eyed Gabby Petito, the poster girl for white purity for the alt right. The Missing White Girl Syndromehttp://themissingny.nycitynewsservice.com/part-two/race/They don't even include Native American women and girls. The "Indians" in the charge are Asian Indians. And we know the statistics are grossly under counted.
(DIR) Post #ADdJZcfjduSUvNvyng by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T17:53:08Z
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@AnungIkwe most perps are of the same race as the victhis explains everything you see here
(DIR) Post #ADdKCUowlfo5rqmMka by AnungIkwe@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T17:56:42.638317Z
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@amerika Not in the case of Indigenous women. Most perps are white.
(DIR) Post #ADdKCVLun6B7W6Ch8a by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T18:00:09Z
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@AnungIkwe how do we know this?i doubt it very, very muchthe pattern is consistent in all crimes across all groups
(DIR) Post #ADdKLpcYnovkz6R9KS by AnneBevan@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T18:00:22.264655Z
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@AnungIkwe @amerika Since the authorities rarely investigate, it is hard to prove that.
(DIR) Post #ADdKLqCMehZQm9Bk8W by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T18:01:49Z
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@AnneBevan @AnungIkwe exactlybig question is: why aren't the indians (amerinds) doing this themselves?
(DIR) Post #ADdLMnFrBYSTtDq8x6 by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-11-21T18:13:14.902079Z
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@AnungIkwe @amerika citation needed
(DIR) Post #ADdLY6VLxGNMmHTuvg by AnneBevan@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T18:10:16.832936Z
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@amerika @noagendasocial.com @AnungIkwe Do you think that indigenous people have the power to question people suspected of crimes on their land or elsewhere? Powers of arrest?
(DIR) Post #ADdM68TB9iMUiYgyTw by Fullycaffeinated@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T18:21:26.214926Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe What exactly do you want them to do? Here in Canada they went decades trying to get the authorities to give a shit. Our current government has paid lip-service to this but really haven't done a damned thing to change it. How do you think it would play out if our Indigenous people started to run their own investigations and charging white people? Where would they get the ressources from?White men have been abusing Indigenous women and girls for centuries and getting away with it.
(DIR) Post #ADdMNzautNJMP7pHjU by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T18:24:32Z
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@Fullycaffeinated @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe They take in local taxes, right? Assign those to the task.As you'd do... anywhere else.It's not Whitey's job to subsidize the Amerinds.
(DIR) Post #ADdMP4pmtc16weIbiK by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T18:24:51Z
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@AnneBevan @AnungIkwe Yes, if they run their own reservations like they do here in Murka.
(DIR) Post #ADdMPMCOKpCOng0Oo4 by AnungIkwe@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T17:54:01.337537Z
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@xzy45 The FBI stats make it look like number of males and females are equal, but they don't included every category of "missing" such as kidnapped or abducted girls. Way more girls are abducted for sex trafficking than boys in the US. Someone needs to do the work on that.
(DIR) Post #ADdMTAfHA0WyBbKnaq by D00B@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-11-21T18:25:36.458271Z
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@AnneBevan @amerika @AnungIkwe all niggers and browns need to be exterminated.
(DIR) Post #ADdMXxS5iDSMeiRxmC by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-11-21T18:26:26.859228Z
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@Fullycaffeinated @amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe okay squaw
(DIR) Post #ADdMhdF3hxXcs2y1lQ by Fullycaffeinated@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T18:28:11.903884Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe Bud, some of them don't even have clean running water. Do you really think they can out-investigate the RCMP, let alone local PDs? Our successive governments have kept them in poverty. Much easier to control that way.
(DIR) Post #ADdMjxZb5VX4VRgSlk by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T18:28:36Z
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@Fullycaffeinated @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe How have these governments kept them in poverty?
(DIR) Post #ADdMk8Qmic1GBIe53o by Fullycaffeinated@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T18:28:39.804723Z
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@dew_the_dew @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @amerika Go fuck yourself.
(DIR) Post #ADdMqkBNGxJ70EaYxk by Fullycaffeinated@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T18:29:50.859711Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe By moving them off their land and not providing the basic infrastructure that they happily built for settlers.
(DIR) Post #ADdMubV9US8ZEmgETI by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T18:30:32Z
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@Fullycaffeinated @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe That was 200 years ago, am I right?
(DIR) Post #ADdMx71RGf3tZnyhoe by Fullycaffeinated@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T18:31:00.419563Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe It is still going on today.
(DIR) Post #ADdN0VINTdODj9WCNE by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T18:31:36Z
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@Fullycaffeinated @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe Who gets the local taxes?Is there support paid by the central government?Sounds more like money mismanagement, like Flint Michigan's water supply, instead of some program to deprive them.
(DIR) Post #ADdN1OVOCxTgxR1rn6 by D00B@posting.lolicon.rocks
2021-11-21T18:31:47.497508Z
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@Fullycaffeinated @amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe Cry about it. Don't be a savage and you can have running water.
(DIR) Post #ADdN4j0iQUwBQFGnDc by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-11-21T18:32:23.573562Z
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@Fullycaffeinated @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @amerika I just learned it was an insult like 6 months ago because of some squaw crying in some magazine article about being called a squaw and now I think it's really funny.
(DIR) Post #ADdNFQJ4J8Yqb9xJNA by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T18:33:51Z
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@dew_the_dew @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Fullycaffeinated On the internet, being deliberately offensive is a way of filtering out snowflakes.It's kind of essential, or you end up with... ugh... REDDIT.
(DIR) Post #ADdPu7rVzKJRAvbVCq by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T19:00:20.172164Z
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@Fullycaffeinated @amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe Perps can't be extradited to Tribal land. They literally have no right to arrest and prosecute non-Indians who commit crimes on Indian land It's a huge mess. The laws need to change.
(DIR) Post #ADdQMh4Wfk18U8JOrY by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T19:06:01.440532Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe They literally have no right to arrest and prosecute non-Indians who commit crimes on Indian land It's a huge mess. The laws need to change. They have no sovereignty on their own land. It's ridiculous how lopsided the laws are. That's why oil companies can just build pipelines and pollute their land wherever and whenever they feel like it with no consequences. It's entirely on purpose.
(DIR) Post #ADdRMB6nbwrLJ4h2e0 by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T18:49:27.909099Z
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@AnungIkwe They're enslaved by pimps.
(DIR) Post #ADdRSWuhSDHyfe3wUC by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T19:18:19.026169Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe Hahahaha!!! Dude, you're fucking delusional. https://youtu.be/PBuz8RYfdWM
(DIR) Post #ADdZ8IKSlhUxHNyWLw by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T20:47:27Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Fullycaffeinated Those are the same laws any jurisdiction abides by.In the meantime, it seems they're not keeping statistics.
(DIR) Post #ADdZJSM9pM1nZ25e4G by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T20:49:29Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe https://www.bia.gov/frequently-asked-questionsHere's the law.Indian reservations are closer to states than to localities.They have their own police and their own laws.If those laws are failing them, time to stop scapegoating Whitey and do something about it.
(DIR) Post #ADdZRU6RDZMBIUZ7ho by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T20:50:56Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe > They have no sovereignty on their own land.The link I just posted shows how this is not true, and how they could easily fix the situation.
(DIR) Post #ADdfdqLyup9vVT71Mm by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T21:52:15.353832Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe What are you talking about? States are not considered "domestic dependent nations" by the federal government. That's an entirely separate legal designation.
(DIR) Post #ADdfdqtIuvoXAohdJ2 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T22:00:23Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe "Entirely separate" does not mean "without power."In fact, the reservations have a great deal of power... and seemingly an inability to do anything with it.
(DIR) Post #ADdgLcLSMNLmnljvLU by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T22:05:23.815330Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe How? When they have no resources or criminal database to find a non-Indian perpetrator outside of their land. The enforcement of their extradition requests depends on how the Attorney General feels. The Attorney General can refuse to enforce federal laws whenever they want.
(DIR) Post #ADdgLctqIWr8WPpNwW by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T22:08:20Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe Yes, but remember:We're working within reality hereStatistically, most likely, the perps are from the reservation and are committing multiple crimes.Have they been refused access to CODIS and other nationwide criminal databases?
(DIR) Post #ADdgd4NJOljweqvgSO by dew_the_dew@poa.st
2021-11-21T22:11:29.712098Z
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@amerika @kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe Whitey being spotted in the area around the time a kid disappears would draw a lot more attn
(DIR) Post #ADdglslzu3uTHWg6jo by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T22:10:45.680520Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe Good luck doing anything when the Federal Government decides to not Federally Recognize your fucking Tribe. Their status of legally existing is entirely dependent on the Federal Government.
(DIR) Post #ADdgltKNqDPp0AlZKq by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T22:13:04Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe The federal government respects their autonomy; that's based on the treaty.You've shown nowhere that law enforcement is not collaborating with them, nor demonstrated any reason to think that there's a huge flood of outside perpetrators doing this crime.In fact, the consistent pattern in all crime suggests the opposite: they have an internal problem and are not dealing with it. Why?
(DIR) Post #ADdiq9X5jWWIKLs09o by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T22:29:02.137445Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe Wrong. Dude where are your sources? The Census Bureau reports that non-Indians now comprise 76% of the population on tribal lands and 68% of the population in Alaska Native villages. They're not outsiders. They simply skip town [tribe] when they break the law.
(DIR) Post #ADdiqA3LnaK9wOxlRI by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T22:36:15Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe And what evidence do we have that they are doing that?None of the links you posted suggested that regular law enforcement reject requests from Indian authorities.The link I posted takes a bit more effort to parse than the Guardian, but shows you how the legal relationship works out.
(DIR) Post #ADdjYX37ezjo0L0vWC by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T22:23:38.820492Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe They need to be federally recognized, be part of the Tribal Access Program, and be "selected" to participate by the Department of Justice. And this has only been allowed since 2015.https://www.justice.gov/tribal/tribal-access-program-tap
(DIR) Post #ADdjYXWtsHYbUgwhvs by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T22:44:15Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe This is true of all law enforcement agencies, however, since they have to demonstrate reliability and have contact people to participate in just about any federal program.
(DIR) Post #ADdjeOUeNsRhCpgXK4 by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T22:38:08.459371Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe Who is "not dealing with it?" Between 2005 and 2009, U.S. attorneys declined to prosecute 67% of the Indian country matters referred to them involving sexual abuse and related matters. That's ridiculous. They're doing what they can. They're being denied by federal courts. Because those federal courts have the ultimate power. Like I said.https://indianlaw.org/issue/ending-violence-against-native-women
(DIR) Post #ADdjeOxidnhKezHkdE by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T22:45:18Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe We have no idea what these cases were and how well they were formed.We can't assume that they were all good and properly documented. A he-said-she-said case is getting nowhere.
(DIR) Post #ADdjkmeFURQ5rHDnGK by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T22:39:59.266804Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe I JUST answered this, dude and you're still not giving me sources. "Between 2005 and 2009, U.S. attorneys declined to prosecute 67% of the Indian country matters referred to them involving sexual abuse and related matters." That's ridiculous. They're doing what they can. They're being denied by federal courts. Because those federal courts have the ultimate power. Like I said.https://indianlaw.org/issue/ending-violence-against-native-women
(DIR) Post #ADdjknF7HMuVhcTEjA by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T22:46:27Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe You keep repeating the same stuff, ignoring the fact that the Indian courts are not doing their job.If they issue a warrant, it's going to be enforced. Even more, they have their own law enforcement.https://www.bia.gov/regional-offices/southern-plains/court-indian-offenses
(DIR) Post #ADdjovRiin6SIqKuum by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T22:34:01.356289Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe And I just proved you wrong. There are only 108 Tribes participating in TAP. And it's not only Indian women being attacked either: https://www.vice.com/en/article/3dx3aj/when-a-woman-is-raped-in-rural-alaska-does-anyone-care
(DIR) Post #ADdjovzOha2dzI5oPI by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T22:47:14Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe How many tribes are there total?How many are too small to have law enforcement which can participate?How much are they taking responsibility for their own law enforcement?
(DIR) Post #ADdkCM5dpHmzb8BIjA by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T22:47:52.355629Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe That's not their decision to make. The court that needs to be making that determination is ON TRIBAL LAND. They're. Requesting. Extradition.
(DIR) Post #ADdkCMdfml0lIg6Tlw by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T22:51:28Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe Watch this source contradict itself:"As a result, until recent changes in the law, Indian nations were unable to prosecute non-Indians, who reportedly commit the vast majority (96%) of sexual violence against Native women. The Census Bureau reports that non-Indians now comprise 76% of the population on tribal lands and 68% of the population in Alaska Native villages. Many Native women have married non-Indians."...until recently...
(DIR) Post #ADdkFc8Scs4MEN3PAO by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T22:52:03Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe This is also complete nonsense understanding of the law. They can prosecute non-Indians who are on the reservation; if they have actionable information, they can pass this on to the jurisdiction in which the person resides.
(DIR) Post #ADdkSnjwn8VBzDsNWa by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T22:54:23Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe The State -- not feds -- has jurisdiction over most crimes, since almost all crimes are prosecuted under state statutes.However, they require local law authorities to submit the information in an actionable form:https://caselaw.findlaw.com/wa-supreme-court/1640404.html
(DIR) Post #ADdkXNwW8HIxQRwQXw by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T22:53:48.182523Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe I'm repeating the same stuff because you clearly don't understand what I'm saying. >If they issue a warrant, it's going to be enforced. AAAAAGGGHHHH BY WHOOOOOOOO? They can't just fucking follow him off tribal land. Do you fucking know what eXtrAdiTiOn MEANS?
(DIR) Post #ADdkXORMHbyUy6N3cO by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T22:55:16Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe See the Supreme Court link. It will clear it up for you, and you will realize that you got scammed by bad statistics and bad understanding of law in a weepy luvvy article.
(DIR) Post #ADdkcNunfA7ymtWQuO by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T22:55:12.457886Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe Yeah, 2015. I just fucking said it. TWENTY FUCKING FIFTEEN.
(DIR) Post #ADdkcORPhuDQQ2mTk8 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T22:56:08Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe Keep in mind that this was by request of Indian authorities in most cases, who have enforced their treaties mostly as a means to keep state and federal law out.So now we're to blame for this?
(DIR) Post #ADdkoz7Z9rObeeV9jk by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T22:57:22.832319Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe Yeah "wHo aRe On tHe reSeRvAtiOn." What happens when they LEAVE the reservation?
(DIR) Post #ADdkozhN0k2HRhFkXo by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T22:58:25Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe Check this out:"As U.S. citizens, American Indians and Alaska Natives are generally subject to federal, state, and local laws. On federal Indian reservations, however, only federal and tribal laws apply to members of the tribe, unless Congress provides otherwise. In federal law, the Assimilative Crimes Act makes any violation of state criminal law a federal offense on reservations."
(DIR) Post #ADdkrqw239vz8QTSTI by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T22:58:56Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe cont'd"Most tribes now maintain tribal court systems and facilities to detain tribal members convicted of certain offenses within the boundaries of the reservation."https://www.bia.gov/frequently-asked-questionsstate laws apply to both members
(DIR) Post #ADdkvYIHIcnSTjdxRI by Eah@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T22:56:22.051734Z
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@amerika @kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe From your link > Generally, tribal courts have civil jurisdiction over Indians and non-Indians who either reside or do business on federal Indian reservations. They also have criminal jurisdiction over violations of tribal laws committed by tribal members residing or doing business on the reservation.If a non tribal member commits a crime on tribal land, the tribe does NOT HAVE any authority to prosecute them. They have to refer all such crimes to the feds.
(DIR) Post #ADdkvYsR8BiiHsYpnc by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T22:59:36Z
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@Eah @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @kunt_vonnegut No, they refer them to the states.The federal law is just to make it a felony.
(DIR) Post #ADdl0S1o1SFgUgH5yC by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T22:58:51.138170Z
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@Eah @amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe I honestly think this person is some flavor of low functioning autist...
(DIR) Post #ADdl0SatuyKCFWh7fk by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T23:00:30Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Eah I accept your concession.You came in here with dubious statistics based on questionable data, and expect us to blindly accept it.The fact, the Indian courts have the ability to interact with the state legal system, and for some reason it isn't working so well.Normally this is when the local police force isn't doing its work.
(DIR) Post #ADdl72VLJiIzMRERea by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T22:59:56.333451Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe within the boundaries of the reservation.within the boundaries of the reservation.within the boundaries of the reservation.within the boundaries of the reservation.within the boundaries of the reservation.within the boundaries of the reservation.within the boundaries of the reservation.within the boundaries of the reservation.within the boundaries of the reservation.within the boundaries of the reservation.
(DIR) Post #ADdl730tQPXgwHzdpY by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T23:01:42Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe And when in normal law, someone breaks a law and a warrant is issued, do other legal services pick them up?Yes.These are functional courts. They have demanded special privileges for Indians, so are given exclusive jurisdiction there.STATE LAW STILL APPLIESbutthe local Indian cops have to do the work to make a plausible bust
(DIR) Post #ADdlDymvX5rxrUlYlE by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T23:02:33.938196Z
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@amerika @Eah @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe I'm going to fucking lose it. Prosecution of crimes by Native Americans on these lands falls into the jurisdiction of the tribal courts and federal judiciary under the Major Crimes Act, NOT STATE courts. There's TONS of legal precedent for this i.e, McGirt v. Oklahoma.
(DIR) Post #ADdlPX908cxfbIbIZc by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T23:04:58Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Eah https://tulsaworld.com/news/state-and-regional/crime-and-courts/man-at-center-of-mcgirt-landmark-legal-case-sentenced-to-3-life-sentences/article_f8109f96-0514-11ec-ada6-7b510f48e987.htmlThis is a 2020 case!
(DIR) Post #ADdlSBeCWFMdnYSWyO by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T23:05:32Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Eah The Supreme Court reversed prior law in that case.Are you blaming decades of stuff before 2020 on a 2020 case?
(DIR) Post #ADdlVQu6FiVpz4RZA0 by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T23:05:43.515810Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Eah I'm going to try to be as nice as possible here: you're not intellectually suited for this conversation.
(DIR) Post #ADdlfk0w3WfA9JYY1w by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T23:07:56Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Eah Try this again:Indians get special privilegesState law still appliesProsecutions happen all the timeMcGirt made an appeal to the Supreme Court in 2020 and was only in the news BECAUSE HE'S INDIAN:"The ruling meant McGirt and other American Indians involved as either the defendant or victim in crimes within the Muscogee Nation’s historical 11-county reservation must be tried by either the federal or tribal government instead of by the state."
(DIR) Post #ADdlhCcdB4IBAHsvHU by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T23:08:15Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Eah The state still prosecutes other crimesBut if the Indian authorities do not hand over enough information, it's not going to happen
(DIR) Post #ADdlkXfzM4yRKe31km by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T23:08:13.368971Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Eah HE. WAS. SENTENCED. IN. FEDERAL. COURT. F-E-D-E-R-A-L ≠ S-T-A-T-E.
(DIR) Post #ADdlkYA7Y34oq695ii by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T23:08:51Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Eah "After his state conviction was overturned, a federal grand jury indicted McGirt on Aug. 17, 2020"
(DIR) Post #ADdlmbdFcOq6BDkeG1 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T23:09:12Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Eah Why was his conviction overturned?He is Indian.You've misread the case entirely.
(DIR) Post #ADdltssPtxwlgrJd0i by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T23:10:31Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Eah So you can see here that your argument is nonsense all the way through.Non-Indians committing crimes on Indian reservations can and are regularly brought before State courts.However, local Indian authorities have to do the groundwork and hand over an actionable case.
(DIR) Post #ADdlvaTbHh4zCaWJ2u by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T23:10:50Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Eah In my experience, most of the cases that get ignored are he-said-she-said.Why?There's no evidence either way.
(DIR) Post #ADdlzgNLIGzoejXtYW by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T23:10:14.098045Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Eah Yeah, because if there's a rape kit, they can just use ancient magic to collect his DNA 5,000 miles away. What the fuck are you on?
(DIR) Post #ADdlzgtxL15GHsnwOG by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T23:11:33Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Eah If he's 5,000 miles away, they submit the information to the state or make their own arrest warrant, at which point he gets picked up in the remote jurisdiction.
(DIR) Post #ADdm3A1VWJsDTYzVVg by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T23:11:11.677103Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Eah His case in OK STATE COURT was overturned.
(DIR) Post #ADdm3AXlaNg55c5GnA by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T23:12:12Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Eah ...because he was Indian.Therefore, the tribe has absolute jurisdiction (in which the feds share).You just argued against yourself
(DIR) Post #ADdmDVRuiKrop5H9A8 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T23:14:04Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Eah Here's the full article unless I didn't link it:https://tulsaworld.com/news/state-and-regional/crime-and-courts/man-at-center-of-mcgirt-landmark-legal-case-sentenced-to-3-life-sentences/article_f8109f96-0514-11ec-ada6-7b510f48e987.html
(DIR) Post #ADdmpXYrJHVMNSezMO by kunt_vonnegut@spinster.xyz
2021-11-21T23:16:26.158068Z
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@amerika @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Eah Which is why he was SENTENCED in FEDERAL court. When the case was in state court it was overturned. Like. I. Said. Notice how Oklahoma is a state?
(DIR) Post #ADdmpY2zVFbjsul3KK by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-21T23:20:57Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @AnneBevan @AnungIkwe @Eah This has no bearing on your contention that state courts are letting off millions of non-Indian sexual abusers.This case was brought in state court and there he was sentenced, until he appealed on jurisdictional grounds based on him being Indian (not non-Indian).
(DIR) Post #ADdrMQpJllMIrbIXK4 by AnungIkwe@spinster.xyz
2021-11-22T00:09:14.181313Z
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@kunt_vonnegut @amerika @AnneBevan It's way more complicated than just jurisdiction. RACIAL DISCRIMINATION AND DENIAL OF EQUALITY UNDER THE LAWhttps://indianlaw.org/issue/ending-violence-against-native-women
(DIR) Post #ADdrMRQBYgqihwXymu by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-22T00:11:42Z
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@AnungIkwe @AnneBevan @kunt_vonnegut "However, it is unacceptable that a non-Indian who chooses to marry a Native woman, live on her reservation, and commit acts of domestic violence against her, cannot be criminally prosecuted by an Indian nation and more often than not will never be prosecuted by any government."They are capable of being prosecuted, at least by the state at the behest of Indian authorities.Collaboration occurs all the time. This article is just wrong.
(DIR) Post #ADdrPnpCieS53lqtf6 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2021-11-22T00:12:20Z
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@AnungIkwe @AnneBevan @kunt_vonnegut Notice even they admit it:"Even grimmer, due to the lack of law enforcement, many of these crimes in Native communities are not even investigated."Tribal sovereignty means that tribal police must investigate.Why are they not doing so?